Stock JB (debloated/disabled) vs CM? - Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G

Hi everyone, just got this phone and I'm playing with it before transitioning it as my day to day device. Thanks for the wealth of info here. I odin'ed the stock JB image. I have two questions please:
1-i disabled most of the bloatware (as in the list published here) Theough JB app settings menu. Besides the memory gained, is there any advantage in rooting and removing the apps, or just loading the nice debloated rom that circulates here?
2-my first option would be vanilla JB, i hate touchwiz. CM looks very nice, but is there a real advantage over debloated stock? In performance, battery, etc.? Is 4.3 much better than 4.1?
Thanks!

Guiyoforward said:
Hi everyone, just got this phone and I'm playing with it before transitioning it as my day to day device. Thanks for the wealth of info here. I odin'ed the stock JB image. I have two questions please:
1-i disabled most of the bloatware (as in the list published here) Theough JB app settings menu. Besides the memory gained, is there any advantage in rooting and removing the apps, or just loading the nice debloated rom that circulates here?
2-my first option would be vanilla JB, i hate touchwiz. CM looks very nice, but is there a real advantage over debloated stock? In performance, battery, etc.? Is 4.3 much better than 4.1?
Thanks!
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cm10.2 is sitll in nightly stage - may be buggy and may be unstable (but may also work well without issues)
debloated stock is rather stable - in my experience at least
i have rooted and debloated (manually with titanium backup) stock jb, i will wait for stable cm

The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/

Magamo said:
The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/
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Thanks, will definetely give this a try over the weekend. Any specific date to download or just the latest?
The only thing I'm worried about is upgrdes: if I install my programs, preferences, settings, are they overwritten when you install a new CM distro?

Generally you can flash cm over cm with no effects on your installed programs.
Going from stock to cm is a different matter though

Magamo said:
The CM nightlies are good, The TeamApexQ builds* are better. Very stable, very good on battery, thanks to in-kernel mpdecision and power collapse. I recently went back to stock for about an hour last week after nearly a year on various CM nightlies, and found the stock JB TouchWiz image to be virtually unusable. To be fair, this was not the debloated one, but with the nine months of constant refinement since the JB Stock image came out, CM blazes along on this phone in my experience.
[*] TeamApexQ are the developers of CM for the ApexQ, and their staging builds contain features and refinements not available in the CM nightlies. http://ls.infernix.net/jenkins/job/apexq-staging/
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I hear you! I feel like I have a new phone. Stock seems like a 2011 phone. Excellent work, thanks - worth every step.
Just two quick questions:
1-i was rooted/i had superuser in my stock. I lost that with cm i guess. Sholud i re flash SU with cwm or is there a simple way?
2-also, i was sim unlocked. Is this still there in my phone?
Thanks again!!

Super user is included in cm see settings. If it doesn't work you can flash a su program with cwm.
Sim unlock should be permanent

croogrog said:
Generally you can flash cm over cm with no effects on your installed programs.
Going from stock to cm is a different matter though
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What about if you're flashing from a much earlier CM?
Like back when it was the 3.0 kernel in May?

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[Q] Things to do?

I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, 7.0 {P3110} Wifi
I'm pretty happy with it so far, I've installed Clockwork Recovery and CM10.
Anything you guys think I should do that I've left out? what about kernel?
Better Rom?
This is not the first time I've Rooted and Flashed a Rom, I had a little samsung phone, with CM 7, it's pretty old but it still works.
Thanks for your time XDA!
GrimTech said:
I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, 7.0 {P3110} Wifi
I'm pretty happy with it so far, I've installed Clockwork Recovery and CM10.
Anything you guys think I should do that I've left out? what about kernel?
Better Rom?
This is not the first time I've Rooted and Flashed a Rom, I had a little samsung phone, with CM 7, it's pretty old but it still works.
Thanks for your time XDA!
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I believe that you have meant CM 10.1, if not then go for the newest.
I'm running Dhollmen Kernel which I recommend. It's stable and have few nice things when it comes to OTGing.
Enable developer settings (hit build number in Device Information section few times) and set your scheduler/governor. I use SIO or ROW for scheduler and pegasusq for governor, but test and choose which one suits you best.
I would also recommend you to use different recovery. PhillZ Touch is my personal favorite.
Ivyl said:
I believe that you have meant CM 10.1, if not then go for the newest.
I'm running Dhollmen Kernel which I recommend. It's stable and have few nice things when it comes to OTGing.
Enable developer settings (hit build number in Device Information section few times) and set your scheduler/governor. I use SIO or ROW for scheduler and pegasusq for governor, but test and choose which one suits you best.
I would also recommend you to use different recovery. PhillZ Touch is my personal favorite.
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Whoops, I did mean CM 10.1, sorry,
Phillz Touch has a ubuntu feel to it, {Mainly due to the background} I may stick to CW. Not because of the way it looks, it does look pretty nice, but I've used CW for some time. I may never know. I may flash Phillz Touch one day.
I've flashed Dhollmen's Kernel.
Thanks for the tips Ivyl!
GrimTech said:
Whoops, I did mean CM 10.1, sorry,
Phillz Touch has a ubuntu feel to it, {Mainly due to the background} I may stick to CW. Not because of the way it looks, it does look pretty nice, but I've used CW for some time. I may never know. I may flash Phillz Touch one day.
I've flashed Dhollmen's Kernel.
Thanks for the tips Ivyl!
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PhillZ's recovery is modified CWM IIRC. I like it for it's touch accuracy, support for AROMA File Manager, and ADB root.
No problem, mate. Check other JB 4.2 rooms for their features. PAC seems to be popular. I prefer clean CM (it's fairly minimal, close to AOSP, I have flashable zip that removes some of the apps I don't use) with only few customizations. If it isn't the fastest solution it's at least good placebo. Official stable releases and updater are additional benefits.
Ivyl said:
PhillZ's recovery is modified CWM IIRC. I like it for it's touch accuracy, support for AROMA File Manager, and ADB root.
No problem, mate. Check other JB 4.2 rooms for their features. PAC seems to be popular. I prefer clean CM (it's fairly minimal, close to AOSP, I have flashable zip that removes some of the apps I don't use) with only few customizations. If it isn't the fastest solution it's at least good placebo. Official stable releases and updater are additional benefits.
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I tried PAC, Nice little Hybrid Rom,
I'm sadly going back to old roots, I think I've always used CM. I tried PAC and it felt strange, it's nice, don't get me wrong, but what's the Pro's and Cons over CM?
GrimTech said:
I tried PAC, Nice little Hybrid Rom,
I'm sadly going back to old roots, I think I've always used CM. I tried PAC and it felt strange, it's nice, don't get me wrong, but what's the Pro's and Cons over CM?
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I'm not sure what is "borrowed" from AOKP, but features from ParanoidAndroid are nice. It's hybrid UI with so-called Tablet Mode (like the one on stock ROM) and DPI control are mostly appealing to me. There is Pac-in-black switch too, and people seem to like inverted (or darkened) roms here.
Main con for me is too much everything. We get every feature from PA, CM and some from AOKP, which may be considered bloat (at least I do so). It hasn't got stable releases, need manual update downloads, and developer doesn't have the device.
slim bean 7 is super awesome
gizmo99301 said:
slim bean 7 is super awesome
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I agree. Very smooth.
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gizmo99301 said:
slim bean 7 is super awesome
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Any pro's and cons with Slim Bean 7?
fast, smooth, stable. ive got mine with the next kernel and have absolutely no problems with it at all. all the customization i have done all seems to work, no random reboots, no force close issues. been runnin slim bean now since official 6.
I had cm10.1 and i switched to slimbean. It seems smoother and i like it a lot. Very stable, very smooth, you should try it! You wont be disappointed!
Sent from a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away
MoKee RC3, based on CM10.1 with extra features (PIE, HALO, transparent navbar and status bar, list view animation). Rock solid as CM10.1. Not as complicated as PAC. Combined with Dhollmen Kernel, CrossBreeder script, V6 Supercharger + patched services.jar and manually Odex your framework+system apps. Scored around 7,500 in Antutu with 1.2GHz OC. I have about >150 apps installed.
Well that's what I'm using right now.
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CM10.1 with Next kernel for me, best combination ever tried!

Running stock 4.1.2.. What is most stable to flash?

Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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For TW 4.1.2 is the most current, but developers are working on 4.3. Otherwise, I would flash an AOSP ROM & I've had good luck on those too.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
HOWEVER... every custom rom has issues with a 'kill signal' with Bluetooth, so if you use BT, you need to make sure you power down the other device, before you try to turn off BT on your phone; that will send the signal to your device and unpair the two. Otherwise, your phone won't be able to reconnect to BT on that device and you'll have to reboot. It's a known bug and people are working on it.
I used Gummy all December and now I'm running SlimKat... they're stable for daily use. I'd recommend a custom kernel with Slim, though... I'm using Lean Kernel.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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Take a look at this it was just released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
beepea206 said:
Gummy and SlimKay have full GPS and Bluetooth capabilities. The unofficial CM builds are FAR more stable than the official ones, so if you must use CM, go with an unofficial like Mastamoon or KitKang.
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Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
lexluthor said:
Why would an unofficial cm be more stable? From reading the descriptions, it's just cm with a couple of visual tweaks, no?
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Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
beepea206 said:
Recent CM nightlies are highly unstable and there's often they'll put out a build with a commit they later revert. The unofficial builds vary... some don't release every night (avoiding those bad commits), others cherry-pick and are able to avoid commits they don't think are necessary (and are what often wonk up a build). Basically, they're more fine-tuned for our specific device (the CM builds are just pushed out auto-build) and tend to perform better.
If you look at the feedback in the 'official' thread, then compare that to the unofficial threads, you'll see far more issues in the official one. Could be more noobs going to CM's official builds because it's considered safer, but I've seen some veteran flashers have the same issues, so I'm inclined to believe it's due to how they push out nightlies.
... but that's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.
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That's a reasonable explanation. I'm on CM11 official nightly. I usually read the changelog before I update. I did do a full wipe before updating originally and I've been running very well. I've had 1 random boot in about a week and the camera froze the system once. I had many more random reboots on TW. It's incredibly fast and I've got no lag (that was a bad problem for me on 4.1.2).
Nice one... checking the changelog and/or Gerrit commits is a good practice, IMO. I only flash a nightlie if I find some commits I think would make the rom run better for me... most are small things like language tweaks and updates to other device repos, so flashing the newest version isn't always necessary.
Regarding the random reboots, you probably have the same modem issue I do. There was a recent update to the device RILs that completely resolved the modem 'freakout' i kept having; I believe they used the updated device files from the 4.3 stock builds pushed out, so it made the device more compatible with the 4.3 and 4.4 roms.
DatacomGuy said:
Is 4.1.2 the latest VZW published version?
I'd like to get to 4.3 or 4.4.. what is the most stable ROM that i can flash that won't cause me to lose any features like GPS or Bluetooth?
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if you like touchwiz, MOAR and Wicked Sensations roms (4.1.2) are pretty good. I'm on cm10.2 (4.3.1) with xposed framework and it's running perfectly. I'm staying away from kitkat cause of all the bluetooth issues.

[Q] New N5, switch to custom ROM rightaway or wait?

I just bought a new Nexus 5. I love all the extra features custom ROMs come with, and I bought this phone because it has the best ROMs
How good are the various custom ROMs in terms of stability and battery life at present? Should I switch to a ROM rightaway or is it better to wait for better/more stable builds (the ROMs I'm considering are still in beta)?
Imho the best rom is purity for n5, stable and rock solid. For kernels there are a lot but i personally use faux
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Hello,
Please read the stickies before creating a new topic. ROM Comparison threads are not allowed here. You can head over to the development section and try the various AWESOME roms which have been developed and settle on the one which suits you the best!
I would reccomend you to stay stock for at least a few weeks so that you feel the stock experience for a while and then jump on to a custom rom as you will now have something to compare the custom rom with and the awesome feeling when you jump from stock to custom!
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
Just a friendly reminder that this thread is about the stability about custom ROMs, not which ROM's the best/better than...
Discussions about stability are ok, but please don't slide into "best ROM" discussions, or else I have to close this thread
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
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jd1639 said:
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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The phone is already unlocked/rooted/running CWM. That's the first thing I did when I unboxed it. And I'm already looking into the xposed modules that would fit my requirements.
vin4yak said:
Hello,
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
crimsonedge03 said:
When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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Yes there are... I'm on AICP and I get SODs once every 2-3 days... Because of the various CM patches and other stuffs, it sometimes breaks Tethering (although it is fixed by the dev the very next day)... Some other patch broke the lockscreen wallpaper on other rom...
I hope you know what I'm trying to say... These are just minor issues which occur when you flash custom roms and are ironed out by the dev within days... but they seem negligible when you get the awesome experience in using a custom rom...
What seems stable to one person may not to the next. And vice versa. We all use our phones different ways for different things. The only real way to know is read through the rom threads, starting from the last page and going backwards for latest comments and/or flash them and find out for yourself.
Thanks to nandroid backups and restores....going back to our good setup is easy if you don't like something.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
I would stay stock for now and test out all of the custom kernels and see which has the greatest impact on impoving your current battery life. As said before in other threads what works for one Nexus 5 may not be the same on another one. As for the rom I prefer using stock+xposed. The modules I use are: gravitybox, xHaloFloatingWindow (with Floatifications from the play store) and greenify.
The custom dishes by our chefs are all great! Those who have to ask should stay stock for a while!
Stay stock . There has been no need for custom roms for a while. Kk is great. Kernels are another matter. I'd concentrate on finding a good kernel. All the features you want on a rom can be got with Xposed framework and modules, ie gravity box
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The N5 has been out for a while, alot of awesome dev's has made roms. At this point, a custom rom is a must for the N5!
I would recommend PA for a stock experience or PAC for a all in one rom.
Thank you for the suggestions everyone.
I've had this phone for just a couple of days, so I won't rush into a custom ROM. Gravitybox and other xposed modules have most of the features and customisations I wanted, so I'll stick to stock for a while, and explore stock KK thoroughly. I might try out a few custom kernels though.

Reinstall CM11S without GAPPS preadded?

I am looking to see if there is a build of CM11S without gapps pre added to the rom so that I can use the customizable GAPPS package to remove unwanted app packages such as TTS, talkback, quickoffice, soundsearch, play movies, play games and so on.
You could download the recovery flashable version of the CM11S build from CM directly and delete the files prior to flashing. Just be aware you won't be able to do the OTA updates moving forward as you need a full image to do so
Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
pyrocide said:
Hold up; just to make sure I understood that how you meant it.
I wont be able to do OTA updates unless i keep the entire GAPPS package installed?
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Yep, that's correct. OTA updates require a full, untouched system image otherwise the update will fail
wow might as well just go to CM11 and forget CM11S altogether in that case.
+1 to what Eddy said. Doing any modifications to /system/ will cause problems when it comes to updating to the next OTA. So your best chance would be to use CM11 or any other custom ROM with the gapps of your choice.
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
pyrocide said:
that actually makes me a tad bit disappointed now.
I was really hoping to keep CM11S for some of the interesting features it had. Oh well, CM11 it is. Just need to find the one without many issues to use until stable is released. Any suggestions?
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You can use CM11 (or any other ROM that uses a CM base) and have the CM11S features such as lock screen, camera (available as a apk standalone, doesnt matter what ROM you use), AudioFX (same.. available as a apk).
I'd probably recommend crDroid if you plan to stick to the CM base. Gets updated weekly or so and is based off CM11 without too many additions.
@bp328i did a great job at making a zip of all the CM11S apps that work with crDroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55654697&postcount=132
crDroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-crdroid-kitkat-4-4-4-t2880851
Not sure whether or not bp used the stock lock screen but attached is the gradient lock screen. Looks better than the stock lock screen (search for what it looks like).
Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
pyrocide said:
Alright, sounds good. What about people flashing custom kernels? Is this to fix issues with the phone or is it to add something?
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Both.
Additional features are made by kernel-by-basis. I can go detail-by-detail on what features but its better off not to since you'll be confused.
The biggest fix would be touchscreen as it has a new touchscreen firmware that fixes ghost swipes.
What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
pyrocide said:
What Kernel would you recommend? I was reading that some fix a battery drain issue as well?
Other than the personal GAPPS issue i have, does CM11S have any other faults currently?
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I don't use CM11S so I can't tell you for sure.
Popular kernels are ak or franco kernel. I personally use Franco Kernel.
Think Im gonna go for CM11 nightlies after looking at Madhi, crDroid and a few others. I just like CM11 for my HTC One S.
For Franco's kernel would I be using the CM11S or AOSP if flashing CM11 nightly? Since CM11s is just a custom version of CM11 i wasnt sure.
nvm found it finally from G+ thread, AOSP

Discussion - Your Favorite ROM

With MM based ROMs coming out with enough time for people to get used to them, along with LP and KK based ROMs that have been around for awhile, what are people's favorite S5 ROMs?
Which ones offered the most robust features?
The most stable with limited issues (HD calling, modem issues, wifi calling, accessing data and wifi)?
The best usability and customization?
The most attractive?
The best battery life?
For people coming from a stock android experience (Nexus, Moto, AOSP ROMs), which ROMs let you go back to that? I personally find TW to look atrocious (just a personal opinion) but there are very few TW ROMs that keep the framework intact, but that also let you have the stock experience.
i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
Lightn1ng said:
You will need a CID 15 to run this - but I've tried tons of ROMs, and I always come back to Vanir. It's fast, very stable, and looks nice (it comes with the CM engine as well).
Battery life is also excellent :good:
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I ended up going with Phoenix for my first one. Being able to use themes is helpful, because I can use a Material based one. But it's very bloated and has a few features that are pointless on the S5, and I'm spending nearly as much time debloating as I would on a Stock ROM.
Vanir does look really nice. I'm kind of worried about issues on not being on a TW ROM though. The is my first time using recoveries and Custom ROMs (Haven't bricked too bad yet), and not sure I'd be able to troubleshoot issues.
Cristeg79 said:
i personally really like FreedomROM by DROIDRAZ because it allowed you to have the stock nexus system ui
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Great ROM, I wish he would update it!
I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
Nerva said:
I'd love to hear more suggestions on this topic -- I'm running OptimalROM 13.1 and really want to upgrade, but I was waiting for Verizon's stock MM to ship and custom variants of it to appear. I haven't had time to follow all the current ROMs, their pros/cons, and the ins/outs of installing them, particularly with KNOX etc.
I have the same list of considerations as MortimerR in his original post -- I'd like something that keeps all the good features of the stock Samsung/Verizon MM, while removing all the bloat/crap, and adding some cool tweaks and advanced options.
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A lot of the VZW roms out now are being updated or have been updated to MM.
Give Phoenix a try.
I've found that coming from Moto and Nexus devices, TW is just not for me. But for people who are used to it, I think Phoenix is fully featured.
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
kurntech said:
freedom and optimal rom for LOLLIPOP
RESURRECTION REMIX FOR MARSHMELLOW
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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The RR thread looks to have a lot of stability issues
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Most CM based ROMs for this device have issues. Hell, most CM based ROMs for any device have issues. For the record, I don't agree with him either, I'm using the NO_BS 5.0 ROM and it's only slightly better than stock...
You could try cyanide for android ROM mm cm13 based ROM for kltevzw
it is an engineer build and crazy super kernel works well on it with kernel auditor mod apk to control kernel

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