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[ROM] [4.4.4] CarbonRom [UNOFFICIAL] [7/13/14]

Fresh from the kitchen comes ....
CarbonRom
for the Samsung Relay 4G​
ROM: Download Here!
Gapps: Download Here!
Installation instructions:
Be sure before anything you are on latest firmware and modems
Be sure you are on latest TWRP Recovery
Under Wipe:
Swipe to Factory Reset
Under advanced wipe checkbox:
Dalvik Cache
System
Cache
Data
Then swipe to wipe
Flash Rom And Gapps under install then reboot to profit
Credits to:
@CarbonDev
Andros11
bigshotRob
@Bionic Beast
@dg4prez
@kejar31
@mattmanwrx
@morfic
@nocoast
@pixeldotz
@slick_rick
@winner00
Special Mentions:
@Snuzzo for his awesome kernel work, various other awesome edits to source and teaching me alot of stuff
@falle21 for Beta and bug testing for me
TeamApexQ for getting the devices development as far as it has. Great work guys!
ROM Source
Device Source
Official nightly changelog:
Link
Known Bugs:
MHL

Device-specific-to-this-rom changelog:
5/13
Updated to latest kernel 3.4.89 with gcc 4.7
many upstream fixes (see carbon changelog)
New ThemeChooser added
3/10
fixed swype on OSK
Switched to rebuilt d2lte from d2-common in source specifically rewritten for the relay
2/16
Initial build

*Reserved*

Great work! Run fast. The battery is awesome. Thanks for these!
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falle21 said:
Great work! Run fast. The battery is awesome. Thanks for these!
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Your very welcome bud

REV3NT3CH said:
Your very welcome bud
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Thanks a lot! Two questions:
1-do you expect better battery life than cm11 or hypnotoad??
2-can it be dirty flashed over cm 10.2.1?
THANKS THANKS THANKS!!

Should have great battery life...better than cyanogenmod....I only recommend dirtly flashing for future updates of this ROM only...a dirty flash will more than likely carry bugs from prior ROMs over to this.. Also the source code for device used in this rom does differ from CyanogenMod and TeamApexQ's source. While its similar there is quite a few changes me and snuzzo have made to prevent future issues as well as better the performance. i know @falle21 is getting some very good battery life on this rom even with moderate use

Today I have 4hours of screen on and 9 without charging and still have 20%, better than CM and similar Hypnotoad
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Great rom! Great work! Thank you!
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Nice
What's specifically different with this kernel and hypnotoad kernel?

dillalade said:
Nice
What's specifically different with this kernel and hypnotoad kernel?
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@Snuzzo is the man to tell you his work and whats changed. I know CPUmin mpdec boost is disabled and SIO scheduler was added

@HippoMan Thanks for your very generous donation and is highly appreciated. I'll gladly help anyone in the community anytime.

REV3NT3CH said:
@Snuzzo is the man to tell you his work and whats changed. I know CPUmin mpdec boost is disabled and SIO scheduler was added
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Very little was changed. I'm planning on keeping a weekly kernel build up with merges of cm-11. Any future ROMs these kernel packages should work OK on. This will at least bring somewhat of a good standard for roms also that are based off cm's hardware device tree.
Looking into bringing some official builds for ROMs as well. Just trying to bring up what seemed to be a dead legacy device, bringing some life to it.

Snuzzo said:
Just trying to bring up what seemed to be a dead legacy device, bringing some life to it.
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Thank you!
I like this legacy device because it has a keyboard. If someone comes out with some new hard-keyboard phones again, I might move on. But until (unless?) that happens, I'm grateful that you and others are working to keep the apexqtmo alive.
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HippoMan said:
Thank you!
I like this legacy device because it has a keyboard. If someone comes out with some new hard-keyboard phones again, I might move on. But until (unless?) that happens, I'm grateful that you and others are working to keep the apexqtmo alive.
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Very welcome. I have a few things and ideas I need to pass on to the teams I am part of and may even see the current rom I'm working on make a release here. Just be patient
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awesome! i love carbon! awesome features. can't wait for exciting updates!

Just gave this a go out of intrigue.
Knowing nothing about Carbon, other then watching a youtube clip prior to install & trying for self.
Basically a CM with further customisation from what I gather.
Although this is not to my tastes, it's a nice rom.
Well done
Good job lads :thumbup:

dillalade said:
Just gave this a go out of intrigue.
Knowing nothing about Carbon, other then watching a youtube clip prior to install & trying for self.
Basically a CM with further customisation from what I gather.
Although this is not to my tastes, it's a nice rom.
Well done
Good job lads :thumbup:
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whats your taste? i may build something along what youd like....aside from popular roms i do plan on building one of my very own eventually. Carbon is more its own thing really...whilst having a cm style and features plus a bunch more especially in interface tweaking and such it does have its differences. especially battery life and performance on this differs from straight cm due to not using a straight cm kernel

MD5
do we need to install the md5 file? if so how do we do it

jaeeee said:
do we need to install the md5 file? if so how do we do it
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MD5 file is for verification of a good rom download. If downloading on your device use this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fab.md5&hl=en
OR
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.afvx&hl=en
to verify it's content.

[ROM][OFFICIAL][NIGHTLIES]Vanir-AOSP | Optimization Level Legendary|

List all Questions and Off-Topic discussions here
Welcome to VanirAOSP. Our mission is to deliver a clean optimized version of Android to as many devices as possible. This is not a kang rom. You will find versions of the features you love that we've rewritten and improved on plus a few we wrote ourselves. we've tried to acheive a more organized and cohesive setup to improve the user experience while correcting any performance regressions and improving functionality.
If you're the kind of person that needs options to change the font and color on every letter and expect the ROM to end up looking like kid's cereal box then GTFO. You will not find customizations that are done just because someone figured out how to do them. Everything in here has a purpose and is held to a high standard of coding.
General features:
stock mode - ability revert to stock AOSP code with the exception of a few custom features we chose to keep active
enhanced performance.. longer uptime with less slowdown
custom written CRON and init.d.
minor UI and graphics improvements
custom navbar, navring, and hardware key features
active notifications (improved active display + lockscreen notifications)
usability improvements like power reboot menu and sound
animation control
Improved Vanir keyboard
CM's profiles & quicksettings
additional quicksetting tiles
immersive desktop <- fully configurable immersive mode
low profile mode
statusbar mods
clock & battery mods
lockscreen blur and other mods
soon to come -> quick cam and flash notifications
busybox, embedded root, init.d, cron etc
many improvements and new features unique to vanir
more to come when i feel like updating the op
issues:
- stop flashing the moto X binaries. they do not improve anything for you and aren't even for your device.
- open source camera and launcher3 do not have the same featuers as the google versions. use the latest
banks standard gapps if you'd like these. His gapps are super legit and always up to date.
Join our Google+ community for news/updates
Nightly downloads are available on our google+ page or directly from our server
if you're interested in becoming a maintainer.. or just need help please send an email to [email protected]
Download:
http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies
Check Vanir Updater for updates daily
Gapps: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps i recomend Banks Gapps
Experimental (These are downloads built by me that are not official and may or may not be stable but your welcomed to test them and give feedback)
http://downloads.codefi.re/ethanj99/vanir_evita
Please Consider Rating this thread 5 Star and press the like button
Credits:
Vanir
Slim ROMS
AOKP
AOSP
PAC-Man
codefireXperiment
Code Aurora Forum
DHOMD
nuclearmistake
Jason Downing
PrimeDirective
LorDClockan
tbalden
pingpong
Rc420head
Flashalot
Source:
ROM Source: https://github.com/VanirAOSP
KernelSource: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_htc_msm8960
if you want a clean aosp rom than go into development settings on this rom and enable stock mode and reboot!
List all Questions and Off-Topic discussions here

MINE!!!!!!!!!!!
MINE!!!!!!!!!11

Vanir q&a/t thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797109
Sent from my Evita

Remember all development related questions and comments and bug reporting can be here in this thread. things like questions on how something works or why something happens or descussion about the rom should go in the Q&A thread

Scozzar said:
There is no camera on the 8/15 build? What.
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I flashed the latest nightly (0819) and WiFi seems to be broken...it doesn't even turn on. Great ROM otherwise it's smooth as butter
Edit : torched 4.8 fixed WiFi for me now this ROM is perfect

nicolahaye said:
I flashed the latest nightly (0819) and WiFi seems to be broken...it doesn't even turn on. Great ROM otherwise it's smooth as butter
Edit : torched 4.8 fixed WiFi for me now this ROM is perfect
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Confirmed.
Edit: Will try torched, did you flash after flashing Vanir, or reflash?

CyanJustice said:
Confirmed.
Edit: Will try torched, did you flash after flashing Vanir, or reflash?
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I flashed ROM yesterday and WiFi was broken and today I flashed only kernel (torched 4.8) and WiFi is working

I have to say, this ROM is very impressive! Great UI tweaks, very fast, ART works very well. The only bug I've noticed is my cell signal goes out completely for a few seconds every once in a while. Otherwise, very awesome indeed!
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Is this ROM discontinued ? I haven't seen any nightly since 0819...

nicolahaye said:
Is this ROM discontinued ? I haven't seen any nightly since 0819...
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The latest nightly is pretty stable, been having no issues whatsoever, except the need to flash a new radio every few days or so, but that could just be due to my own location.
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CyanJustice said:
The latest nightly is pretty stable, been having no issues whatsoever, except the need to flash a new radio every few days or so, but that could just be due to my own location.
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And also WiFi doesn't work on stock kernel. Only working with torched 4.8. I guess it's related to the latest changes with the WiFi. When I first flashed the ROM it didn't work so I flashed torched to fix it but I've had a lot of random reboots since 3-4 days so I just got back on stock kernel only to remember WiFi is broken.
Edit : still getting random reboot also on stock kernel. I'll try and grab a last_kmsg next time it happens.

nicolahaye said:
And also WiFi doesn't work on stock kernel. Only working with torched 4.8. I guess it's related to the latest changes with the WiFi. When I first flashed the ROM it didn't work so I flashed torched to fix it but I've had a lot of random reboots since 3-4 days so I just got back on stock kernel only to remember WiFi is broken.
Edit : still getting random reboot also on stock kernel. I'll try and grab a last_kmsg next time it happens.
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Well that's odd, I don't get reboots at all. Maybe that's because of an app incorrectly allocating memory?
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CyanJustice said:
Well that's odd, I don't get reboots at all. Maybe that's because of an app incorrectly allocating memory?
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I have no idea :s I got a last_kmsg but I can't post it from this app I'll do it as soon as I'm near my computer I don't quite understand what it's saying.

nicolahaye said:
I have no idea :s I got a last_kmsg but I can't post it from this app I'll do it as soon as I'm near my computer I don't quite understand what it's saying.
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Have you updated to the newest nightly?
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CyanJustice said:
Have you updated to the newest nightly?
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I haven't but I will as soon as possible. I didn't know there was a new built. I'm actually on 0819 I'll let you know

I installed the 0902 nightly via vanir updater and WiFi now works very well I still get random reboots though, here's the last_kmsg I grabbed while on 0819 nightly, i'll try to grab another one while on the latest as well.

Newest nightly refused to boot for me.. Just endlessly sat on the Vanir splash screen.

Vanir 4.4.4 build required
Hi,
I see that the last vanir build for evita for 4.4.4 was this vanir_evita_4.4.4.112414
But the official repo for vanir only hosts 5.0 builds. If somebody has it downloaded can you please send it to me.
Any help is much appreciated.
TIA!

I love AOSP ROMs but the latest nightlies that I've installed have crashed right after the boot. Please, look into that.
Thanks.
Sent from my One X

[Q] Give a second life to my Nexus S

Hi,
I decided to post my own topic and not in the CM11 thread, because this is probably not a CM11 issue. As you know, the Nexus S has only 512MB of RAM including video. Mine has been having quite a lot of slowdowns (apps refreshes/restarts) for the past weeks. I am wondering what I could do to help it and avoid buying a new phone (no money and I still love that phone).
However now, there are few things that I can't do anymore.
- I can't listen to BeyondPod (podcasts) and receive/send SMS in Hangout. There's not enough RAM to run both apps and even when I am listening to BeyondPod, the SMS alert might not trigger when a SMS is received. This happens in few apps here and there.
- Sometimes, someone calls me and the screen stays black so I can't answer. Again, this is due to RAM usage.
- I use SwiftKey as keyboard and it can't take 30-45 seconds to load in some apps such as Chrome.
I am running CM11 Nightlies. I usually update CM11 once per 2 weeks with the lastest Nightly available. I don't wipe the entire configs, I just upgrade. It's been a while since I've wiped everything to be honest. I probably updated CM10 to CM11 without wiping the configs. This might be one thing to try but I am not sure if it would help to regain some RAM/juice. I am running the stock kernel of CM11. I know there are few kernels with a bigmem patch, but does it really work ?
As for launcher, I am running Apex Launcher as well with SwipePad. Greenify runs in the background and hibernate pretty much every apps it can. I don't have the Greenify donation package, so it won't hibernate on the system apps.
I am wondering if wiping everything and installing a stable version of CM11 (or another lighter ROM?) would help. I would use TItanium Backup to reinstall the apps and their settings. I wouldn't use TiB to push the configs of the ROM if CM11 is reinstalled. Would a kernel or ROM with bigmem patch a good idea ?
This would probably be a temporary fix, because apps and ROMs are asking for more and more CPU/RAM these days.
Thanks for any input,
Neo.

A clean flash isn't a bad idea, just backup your rom first.. Backup your apps/ data on your SD with titanium backup and then you can just restore them.. You could try my stable v1.1 script and use Guru (CM kernel with bigmem) or Devil and you will notice the improvement.. Also the CM m9 is a very nice rom.. Happy flashing..
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Setting.Out said:
A clean flash isn't a bad idea, just backup your rom first.. Backup your apps/ data on your SD with titanium backup and then you can just restore them.. You could try my stable v1.1 script and use Guru (CM kernel with bigmem) or Devil and you will notice the improvement.. Also the CM m9 is a very nice rom.. Happy flashing..
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Thanks for your answer Setting.Out.
Before I receive your answer, I did some research on my side as well. It turns out that I have downloaded your ROM (the Farewell edition) and the cn.fyodor AOSP 4.4.3 ROM. I decided to go ahead and install the AOSP ROM instead of yours. I wanted to try AOSP instead of CM, being a CM user for the past 2-3 years. While I was satisfied with the AOSP ROM for the past day or 2, I am now unsure if I will keep it. While performances are good compared to what I was used to, I have some issues. The videos in YouTube are lagging like crazy (although videos in VLC work fine) and the audio stutter sometimes. I listen to a lot of music and each few minutes, it will stutter for a split second. I never had that issue with CM11. Also, I can't find a kernel with bigmem on AOSP. There is the marmite kernel from bedalus which seemed promising, but everyone is having FC with the Google Play Store and BLN/BLD isn't working anymore on this kernel.
How does your ROM compare with CM11 ? I know yours is CM based. Is there less "bloatwares" in yours ? CM install lots of stuff (themes, bugs reporting, etc) and I don't want that. I prefer to use the Xposed Framework instead of a ROM with multiple settings that I don't use. Having a CM based ROM would be nice to be able to flash the Guru kernel.

spookyneo said:
Thanks for your answer Setting.Out.
Before I receive your answer, I did some research on my side as well. It turns out that I have downloaded your ROM (the Farewell edition) and the cn.fyodor AOSP 4.4.3 ROM. I decided to go ahead and install the AOSP ROM instead of yours. I wanted to try AOSP instead of CM, being a CM user for the past 2-3 years. While I was satisfied with the AOSP ROM for the past day or 2, I am now unsure if I will keep it. While performances are good compared to what I was used to, I have some issues. The videos in YouTube are lagging like crazy (although videos in VLC work fine) and the audio stutter sometimes. I listen to a lot of music and each few minutes, it will stutter for a split second. I never had that issue with CM11. Also, I can't find a kernel with bigmem on AOSP. There is the marmite kernel from bedalus which seemed promising, but everyone is having FC with the Google Play Store and BLN/BLD isn't working anymore on this kernel.
How does your ROM compare with CM11 ? I know yours is CM based. Is there less "bloatwares" in yours ? CM install lots of stuff (themes, bugs reporting, etc) and I don't want that. I prefer to use the Xposed Framework instead of a ROM with multiple settings that I don't use. Having a CM based ROM would be nice to be able to flash the Guru kernel.
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It basically is CM11, a little less bloated, but similar feature set.. Give it a try, you can always flash another rom if it doesn't suite you.. Slim 5.1 is another favorite of mine, if you'd like to try that one you'll need to search their thread as it wasn't a public release..
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Setting.Out said:
It basically is CM11, a little less bloated, but similar feature set.. Give it a try, you can always flash another rom if it doesn't suite you.. Slim 5.1 is another favorite of mine, if you'd like to try that one you'll need to search their thread as it wasn't a public release..
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Your "Farewell edition" is Kitkat 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 ? So that I can download the appropriate Gapps. I also understand that the Gapps you provide in your thread are a minimal package, so my Nexus S doesn't run out of space (which happened to me few months ago due to the new official Gapps package).
Thanks

spookyneo said:
Your "Farewell edition" is Kitkat 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 ? So that I can download the appropriate Gapps. I also understand that the Gapps you provide in your thread are a minimal package, so my Nexus S doesn't run out of space (which happened to me few months ago due to the new official Gapps package).
Thanks
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4.4.4 minimal/micro are better on the NS..
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[Q] CAF Patch and ART

I'm new to xda, so I couldn't ask in the dev forums... I been using Carbon rom, but they recently updated to a CM base for the rom, so w/o the CAF patch it doesn't support AOSP kernels nor ART cache. I tried their latest nightly w/ ART, it wasn't pretty; however, I did not try the caf patch, then aosp kernel, then art. In theory, should that combination get ART to work on a CM based rom? Or am I barking up the wrong tree on this one? I know it's a very specific question, but I been kinda bummed b/c I can't update the rom since I refuse to go back to dalvik, and CM don't support ART. Ever since they updated the rom (since 8/28.. they're on build 8/31 now), I been sticking with the 8/24 build! (their last AOSP based build) Any leads would be a big help. Thank you!

ART should work on a cm ROM. When they say they don't support it, they mean its a Google experimental feature so they cannot help you if you have problems with ART.
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I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?

mai8ko said:
I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?
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you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit

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you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit
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Well the CAF thread suggests this order: Clean flash of cm rom, flash the caf patch, then flash the desired aosp kernel. As far as art goes, aosp roms boot right up w/o problems in art. I don't know if that's because those roms are built on aosp from the ground up, or if it's because of the aosp kernel. I'm wondering if the cm rom that allows aosp kernels with the patch will also allow art to run smoothly. Again, I tried the new nightly (CM based) w/o the patch/ aosp kernel on art and it was buggy as all hell. Others are saying that the build is working well w/ caf patch and aosp kernel... but that still leaves the question: is that on dalvik only? If I turn on art with those three combined will art be good to go? I'm trying to see if anyone knows if it's purely a kernel thing that makes it compatible with art, before investing a ton of time with a clean flash, reinstalling all apps, and trying them one by one only to be disappointed by bugs and having to stick with the 8/24 build anyway. (that was their last aosp build for that rom)

ART works fine, either stock, aosp, or cm based. running aosp kernels on cm or cm kernels on aosp is a no no. you are asking for a long list of issues. and running the patch on an aosp kernel with cm does not guarantee that there wont be issues.

[Q] Can someone recommend a ROM please?

I have been running Paranoid Android 5.0.2 and keep having battery life issues. I have trimmed my apps down and even re-enabled the SystemUpdateService for the Google Play Framework which doesn't help. The service also keeps automatically being disabled. Another issue I have is lack of xPrivacy on this version in addition to various OS 'quirks'.
What is the recommended 5.1 ROM for this device that does work with the newer versions of xPosed/xPrivacy?

xda15u said:
I have been running Paranoid Android 5.0.2 and keep having battery life issues. I have trimmed my apps down and even re-enabled the SystemUpdateService for the Google Play Framework which doesn't help. The service also keeps automatically being disabled. Another issue I have is lack of xPrivacy on this version in addition to various OS 'quirks'.
What is the recommended 5.1 ROM for this device that does work with the newer versions of xPosed/xPrivacy?
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AFAIK all ROMs work with Xposed except TeamEOS (bootloop) and Temasek (you need a modified version of Xposed). Xprivacy works well now on 5.1.

Primokorn said:
AFAIK all ROMs work with Xposed except TeamEOS (bootloop) and Temasek (you need a modified version of Xposed). Xprivacy works well now on 5.1.
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Is there a recommended ROm that does not add much bloat to the stock OS? That is why I chose Paranoid to start with. It is not stock but yet doesn't add a bunch of unnessesary things.

xda15u said:
Is there a recommended ROm that does not add much bloat to the stock OS? That is why I chose Paranoid to start with. It is not stock but yet doesn't add a bunch of unnessesary things.
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CM, Terminus, OptiPop... but I didn't try all ROMs so you should read the OPs in Android Development and Original Android Development.

Cataclysm. Done
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Ben36 said:
Cataclysm. Done
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Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it

Primokorn said:
CM, Terminus, OptiPop... but I didn't try all ROMs so you should read the OPs in Android Development and Original Android Development.
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Not interested in Cyanogen anymore. No real reason other than they got a bit big.
Primokorn said:
Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it
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While open source is a plus and is preferred I can sacrifice if enough people recommend it.
I cannot seem to find screenshots of either OptiPop or Terminus.

xda15u said:
I cannot seem to find screenshots of either OptiPop or Terminus.
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Try by yourself. Screenshots are useless as long as you know what are the main features. You can apply layers or themes (ROM related) if you want custom UIs.

Primokorn said:
Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it
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But it does have rro support tho
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+1 for Cataclysm, nice rom based on factory image!