new user surtace rt - Microsoft Surface

hello guys.
first sorry for my bad English. I'm using a translator
I found a very advantageous offer to buy surtage2 rt 32gb
I have everything android tablet is that smartphone but it is a long time I wanted to try a Win8 tablet
1) recommended it to me again or is it old?
2) it is possible to win pro 8.1?
3) it is possible to install exe files?
4) with the Android system I find all the app to download even with the various alternative market .... with Win8 there are market "alternative"? for the paid app ???
for now, thanks to all

1) Depends *entirely* on what you're looking to use it for. They're good for stuff like Office (though you'll want the keyboard) and web browsing (full browser, including Flashplayer and dev tools!), plus most of the common tablet-y stuff (Netflix, ebooks, etc.). They are modestly hackable (you can "get root" trivially - just a UAC prompt - but you can't modify the kernel or bootloader in any meaningful way at this time). The app store is a lot smaller than for Android, so more esoteric stuff is likely to be missing.
2) No. (Really?? It's an ARM processor, not x86; this should be obvious...). Search before posting!
3) Other than Microsoft-signed ones, not until a jailbreak for RT 8.1 comes out. No idea when that will be, though it's in development. Even then, only ARM or .NET binaries will work (there's a project to support x86 ones through dynamic retranslation, but it was never completed).
4) Go away, filthy pirate; we don't like your kind here. Read the bloody forum rules before you come back, too. $DEITY, 6 years on this forum and you don't know that yet? This is a *developer* forum, a lot of us publish stuff on the store... I guess I shouldn't expect better of somebody with a less than 1 in 200 ratio of posts to thanks, though. (SIX YEARS and 600 posts and you don't know that??)

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Move to Android, specific questions please :)

Hi Guys
I'm currently a very heavy business user of my WinMob Acer M900 and whilst this phone is almost perfect, it has one issue - it runs out of RAM all the time (why Acer?! WHY!?)
Anyway, so i'm going to have to replace this phone as it costs me more of my time managing it and rebuilding it to clean it up that its probably more cost effective to spend a few hundred quid replacing it.
So, as part of this, I thought "why not Android?". A few question need to be answered before I can do this though so I thought I would come to the experts (yes, thats YOU ):
1. Does it have full sync with Outlook (to include mail, contacts, tasks and calendars)
2. Can it process (and send) ICAL?
3. Are there Word and Excel EDITORS available? (Powerpoint is optional)
4. Can 2.0 show the proper Flash stuff yet? (more explained later)
5. Does the web browsing experience honestly compete with Opera 10b on WinMob?
6. Can I Internet Share/Teather?
7. Does it suffer from memory issues like a lot of WinMob devices do?
8. Can I use the phone as a memory stick like I can with WinMob devices?
9. Is there a Live Mesh client for Android?
10. Can they be flashed with diferent ROMS like Winmob devices?
With regards to Flash (mentioned above). My Winmob device - at least if it had enough ram! - can access my mates full flash website and show it (www.thehoggz.co.uk). I have previously performed some testing on an older G1 (?) with someone to find that Winmob (with full Flash 7) was by far the best at this, with Nokia next and finaly the G1. Now I understand that Flash clients are being re-written but they are not here yet. Does anyone have any experience of Android 2.0 and Flash, has it improved?
Appreciate that this is a long list but i'm so fed up with buying devices only to be let down continualy on what they claim to be able to do and can't. Please be honest, I'm really trying to get the right solution this time
I look forward to any helpfull answers!!! THANKYOU!
(just seen Orb's link to JKONTHERUN and so I will also now start reading this)
The answers to all your questions as far as I know are "yes" with the exception of 8 and 9 because I don't know. But I think you'll be better off getting an HD2 as using Android you will be relying on 3rd party software for your work a lot.
very promising, thanks!!!
8 and 9 could be serious issues for me, will have to think. Been looking around and the new Toshiba looks good.
Can't use HD2 as I need a hardware keyboard.
edit: You said yes to all but 8 and 9, so Android devices suffer memory issues like Winmob then?
First of all DO NOT buy a Toshiba, as every one of their devices in the past suffers a number of serious bugs. Plus you don't get XDA support at all.
Android does suffer from memory issues, if you run a lot of apps. But of course you can end unused apps from running in the backgroud anyway. And if memory availability is crucial to you, find a ROM without HTC's Sense UI.
And don't forget most modern (late-2009) phones have more memory than phones of 2008.
Actually I was being stupid - the answer to 8 is YES. The memory card can be mounted as a storage device.
Actually my Tosh G900 was excellent device.
Not bothered about HTC support specificaly, I have had nothing bad serious trouble with there devices - all three i've owned.
So, I can't plug the phone in to a laptop via a PC and tell the phone to act as a memory stick?
Monty Burns said:
So, I can't plug the phone in to a laptop via a PC and tell the phone to act as a memory stick?
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Of course you can. Uses standard USB mass storage protocol. Note: I assume that you mean NVM rather than RAM when you say "memory". No device should ever use NVM as RAM.
As for this so-called memory "problem"... it is in fact, quite minor. Don't worry about what wywywywy says.
Android has a very cool feature for dealing with limited memory-- automatic kick-out of non-foreground applications.
There is NO NEED to kill programs that you aren't using.
If you need the extra memory, android will do that FOR you by killing off programs based on a set of priorities (some programs *need* to keep running, some programs are desirable to keep running, but of varying importance).
In other words, more memory is always better, but it handles it VERY smartly -- so you don't need to worry about it.
Just for reference with your M900, have you tried Daskalos' lite rom?
He's manages to squeeze 69mb out of the RAM.
Ben.
Yes mate, running the 69meg lite now but by the time you have installed spb shell (Be honest, the old today screen is sh*&) and a few other basic apps.... i'm down to 33meg free - fire up Opera and open the BBC home page and i'm out of ram.
How Acer could design such an awesome device and cripple it over such a cheap component is beyond my understanding.
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Sounds excellent. So, is 128meg plenty? Am I able to open webpages without issues (unlike WinMob, Opera 10b)? I'm sure the answer to the next question is "of course" but, is a device with 256 much more beneficial? Should I make this a priority?
Only Windows Mob devices can connect to Live Mesh as it's a Microsoft site. I'm sure there are similar "cloud" environments that Android can connect to though just can't think of any as I never found Live Mesh to be that useful.
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Hacking possibilities

So after playing with my Surface for 5 days now, it is obvious there is a lot of capability in the back end through the Desktop. II have networked printers, and drives at both home and office going, streaming content etc. It is very capable for what it is, way beyond any other Ipad and Android tablet out there. So it seems to me it is just a matter of time before some XDAer figures out a way to unleash it and possibly load other programs (non-RT) programs some way. We know the official MS word is no, but it seems to me it is a fully capable Win8 machine that just has some goierners on it and limited processing power, just waiting to be cracked.
Am I just dreaming?
I would love to see this happen. The one thing holding me back from purchasing one. I'd love a Windows 8 Pro version tablet at the Surface RT pricing but wouldn't we all...
I dont think rt can run x86 app properly. Because the cpu is not as good as x86 core. I am interested in porting rt to compatiable device such as tergra 2 and 3 pad.
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liu2002 said:
I dont think rt can run x86 app properly. Because the cpu is not as good as x86 core. I am interested in porting rt to compatiable device such as tergra 2 and 3 pad.
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I don't think it's necessarily about the Tegra being "as good" as an x86 - the issue is that you'd need an emulator, or the source for the x86 app which you'd then need to re-compile for ARM. I believe MS made a developer toolkit available that allows simpler conversion from x86 to ARM but it's still up to the app vendors to do it.
In theory, the same code could compile for both x86/64 and ARM (RT), but VS2012 will not allow you to compile an ARM desktop app. There is no legit way to write/compile a desktop app on RT. Its an arbitrary BS limitation put in place by MS. You cannot side load apps, everything must come through the MS store, RT enterprise being an exception... which doesn't help us. And the MS store will only offer Metro apps. MS office shows that's desktop apps are fully possible, albeit recoded/recompiled for ARM, but MS will not allow it. In an ideal world, RT would be a fully supported OS, and the likes of Adobe and others could release desktop apps for RT, but sadly it won't happen.
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Skitals said:
In an ideal world, RT would be a fully supported OS, and the likes of Adobe and others could release desktop apps for RT, but sadly it won't happen.
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Why do you say that?
Because its not allowed, only metro style apps published through the app store are allowed. Even if you compile compatible desktop software, the OS won't run it. Its a closed sandbox.
At best we can hope for a "homebrew" community to compile open source software, and find some hacks to get it running.
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Hello,
I’m a happy owner of the Surface RT and I just wanted to add my 2c.
I think that Metro UI is great for tablet, but lacks apps !
So I cannot understand why Microsoft didn’t include .Net on this platform ! I think the main goal and the first “Homebrew” must be recompilation of Mono for ARM. As this will allow us develop a lot of programs, quickly and using “good” tools (Visual )
I just started to study WinRT and I’m already hitting a lot of blocks (For instance, I cannot find a way to open Shared Socket ! So if any other app listen on 1900 port, I lose my SSDP discovery... )
But I think recompilation of Mono is definitely a way to go ! I think i’ll try it this week-end, if I have some time, but It’s sure I will not be able install on my surface  As for now it seems to be impossible to enter Testing Mode on it.
Jurion
jurion said:
So I cannot understand why Microsoft didn’t include .Net on this platform !
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I think people seem to be missing something here (well, not just here, on other threads/forums.blogs too). MS have essentially (it’s really quite impressive) ported over the entire Windows OS to run on ARM – and this includes all of .NET v4 with supporting libraries/DLLs.
You only have to pop to C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 on your Surface RT to see – all the same libraries for the same version of .NET a x86 desktop seem to be there - including Linq, SQL, reflection etc.
Now, this could be really great news! I’d bet that it would be entirely possible for standard .NET applications (by standard, I mean programs that only use managed code and nothing legacy) to be reasonably easily recompiled to run on ARM - ideally as easyily as changing a drop-down!
Furthermore, this is all supported in Visual Studio, it’s just locked down a bit - I’ve been able to compile, with VS2012 (and a minor tweak to remove the ARM compile block) a simple command line EXE for ARM (using .NET calls – though only in C++ which is a shame). The problem is, as soon I open it on Surface, I get an error saying the ‘digital certificate’ couldn't be validated – a common issue which has a simple fix documented online. The catch... that the instructions to remove this block don’t work with secure boot enabled, and - at present - we can’t disable this on the Surface (on normal PCs this can be turned off in the bios).
So – the key to all this, is for MS to open it up (not impossible, but who knows if or when) or for someone to get round this secure boot/certificate requirement. I’m sure there’s some smart people on here with abilities to work on, and hopefully succeed in doing this. Even if people aren't able to work a way round this block, I'm hopefully that eventually MS may release some firmware update tools that someone can hack to switch off UEFI secure boot. Or perhaps someone at MS or a partner may leak some file/app/boot that unlocks this for dev/enterprise purposes.
I look forward to it happening!
T
Skitals said:
In theory, the same code could compile for both x86/64 and ARM (RT), but VS2012 will not allow you to compile an ARM desktop app. There is no legit way to write/compile a desktop app on RT. Its an arbitrary BS limitation put in place by MS. You cannot side load apps, everything must come through the MS store, RT enterprise being an exception... which doesn't help us. And the MS store will only offer Metro apps. MS office shows that's desktop apps are fully possible, albeit recoded/recompiled for ARM, but MS will not allow it. In an ideal world, RT would be a fully supported OS, and the likes of Adobe and others could release desktop apps for RT, but sadly it won't happen.
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Everything doesn't have to come through the MS store, you can install applications that you build in Visual Studio 2012 for Windows Store, create an appx package and choose not to publish it in Windows Store. VS2012 then creates an appx package as well as a PowerShell script that you can run on Surface, accept security warning, get the developer's license on the device (it's free) and that's it!
It is fairly obvious why MS does not allow installation of "Desktop" apps on ARM tablets. Otherwise dev's would get lazy and just recompile desktop apps for ARM. The experience on a touch tablet would not be great on (unmodified) Desktop apps, hence Microsoft set this constraint on Windows RT in order to push dev's towards making a proper touch friendly app. The result is of course the lack of apps initially, but in the long run the benefits will be a greater experience as the apps would be optimized for touch.
Sure there are obvious downsides to this strategy, but the decision itself makes a lot of sense from a useability standpoint. You already read the complaints in reviews about "Office" not being Metro-style and unfriendly to touch. However this is naturally a decision due to time constraints, because MS would have also preferred to not include a desktop on RT. Office is the selling point now, to gravitate people towards RT and when there is enough demand, the touch friendly (Metro) apps will flow in eventually
Backflipping said:
I think people seem to be missing something here (well, not just here, on other threads/forums.blogs too). MS have essentially (it’s really quite impressive) ported over the entire Windows OS to run on ARM – and this includes all of .NET v4 with supporting libraries/DLLs.
You only have to pop to C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 on your Surface RT to see – all the same libraries for the same version of .NET a x86 desktop seem to be there - including Linq, SQL, reflection etc.
Now, this could be really great news! I’d bet that it would be entirely possible for standard .NET applications (by standard, I mean programs that only use managed code and nothing legacy) to be reasonably easily recompiled to run on ARM - ideally as easyily as changing a drop-down!
Furthermore, this is all supported in Visual Studio, it’s just locked down a bit - I’ve been able to compile, with VS2012 (and a minor tweak to remove the ARM compile block) a simple command line EXE for ARM (using .NET calls – though only in C++ which is a shame). The problem is, as soon I open it on Surface, I get an error saying the ‘digital certificate’ couldn't be validated – a common issue which has a simple fix documented online. The catch... that the instructions to remove this block don’t work with secure boot enabled, and - at present - we can’t disable this on the Surface (on normal PCs this can be turned off in the bios).
So – the key to all this, is for MS to open it up (not impossible, but who knows if or when) or for someone to get round this secure boot/certificate requirement. I’m sure there’s some smart people on here with abilities to work on, and hopefully succeed in doing this. Even if people aren't able to work a way round this block, I'm hopefully that eventually MS may release some firmware update tools that someone can hack to switch off UEFI secure boot. Or perhaps someone at MS or a partner may leak some file/app/boot that unlocks this for dev/enterprise purposes.
I look forward to it happening!
T
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Hmmm, sorry my bad, didn't look enougth to find .Net assemblies.
As for open it for MS, may be, maaaay be it's the same scheme which they followed with Windows Phone 7.
No native developpment for 7.0 -- 7.8
But they open it for 8.0
May be they just want to force people developp Metro app to populate the store first.
So where's the best place to get one?
I'm looking into buying one very very soon, I found some on ebay for $585 with the cover, That sounds like a win to me. I wish QVC had it, That'd be lovely.
I'm praying we get a work around for all this, But still If the device isn't made for it, I can't be mad that it doesn't do it, That's like being angry that my car doesn't fly.
But it's such a tease, it worries me that I'll have an entire desktop, Sitting, Obselete, With nothing but Office, which I wont even use.
Can't_Live_Without_My_Evo said:
I'm looking into buying one very very soon, I found some on ebay for $585 with the cover, That sounds like a win to me. I wish QVC had it, That'd be lovely.
I'm praying we get a work around for all this, But still If the device isn't made for it, I can't be mad that it doesn't do it, That's like being angry that my car doesn't fly.
But it's such a tease, it worries me that I'll have an entire desktop, Sitting, Obselete, With nothing but Office, which I wont even use.
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It is made for it. It has the full desktop, and the full desktop Office suite. Its a big tease. The whole "do more" campaign advertises you can "click in" and have full laptop productivity with touchpad and mouse/keyboard. Except the only software to take advantage of it is desktop IE and Office.
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Windows RT - re: Microsoft Leave Us Alone

First off, it is silly that I cannot post a reply straight into the thread, and have to create a new thread in an unrelated area of the forums, as I am a new user (or have less than 10 posts).
Ok, as regards the Windows RT and lock down of the Desktop Applications development, how do the internal programs get past this block? As per many other comments it would appear that Windows RT is a recompilation of Windows 8 and has many like for like .dll's, etc. If the Office 2013 suite can run under the desktop, is it because Microsoft has signed the app with a certificate that is not available to other developers? Does this mean that under the previous EU ruling they are breaching some law in that they are using resources to give themselves an advantage that other developers cannot take advantage of?
I think the only reason they have locked down Windows RT like this is so that this cheap OS does not eat into their regular Windows 8 sales. Certainly I bought a Windows RT device because it is more compatible with my work habits (due to Office 2013) than the Android and iPads I have used in the past. If I could easily use tools like PuTTY, then there would be little reason for me to use a normal laptop or other device.
I doubt Microsoft really watches these discussions in any serious way, but one of the key reasons I chose Windows RT over Android and iPad is because when I need the flexibility of many windows open at the same time and side by side I can do that, but when I want the uncluttered quick environment then New UI does that as well.
Samsung, with Android, is starting to allow a couple apps together, but try to run an Excel Spreadsheet and read your banking web site at the same time to transpose the figures into your budgeting file, and iPad/Android are tedious but Windows RT is a breeze, it is what Windows does best. Microsoft should understand that apart from everything else they do, they provide an OS and should let developers get the most out of that OS, just like Android and iPad developers can push those OS's.
oucarso econcomy
What's more awesome is that new users can't post outside links either. This might be of interest to you www[dot]makeuseof[dot]com/tag/how-to-jailbreak-your-windows-rt-device-and-run-unapproved-desktop-software/
Thanks for the link
My post came as a result of researching the Jail Break idea, I had not seen that page yet. I downloaded the patch and it worked very well. Pity it does not detail why the program goes to the internet the first time it is run, but I assume it is to get the certificate?
Seems like most posters are really happy to have PuTTY working (which is exactly what I wanted). Is it hard to create a New UI App?, maybe someone just needs to compile PuTTY as a New UI app as a terminal emulator should be pretty straight forward.
While I understand that new Intel chips are just around the corner, Surface RT is only $400.00 (64Gb, Touch keyboard) so pretty cheap, so being able to sit on the couch and browse emails, internet and also manage my Linux boxes is really good.
I can do the same thing on my Android TAB, but it is tedious changing screens all the time. New UI has the same problem, always flicking between all the programs. This is what Windows does best, so don't understand why MS would take away from that tried and true model, except they are probably trying to protect their full Windows 8 investment. Instead what they will find is the Windows RT dies a quick death and that is a wasted investment (if that happens they should have just made a New UI only version and got Office to work within that environment if Office is the main reason for the Desktop in Windows RT).

ubuntu phone - yes, no, maybe?

It is possible to get 3 different phones with ubuntu phone now, none of them too expensive.
good.
i wonder what people's experience or informed opinion is?
ubuntu is pushing "convergence", which basically means that one operating system runs on all devices, that i can use my smartphone as a computer...
how far along is it?
now there's loads of blog articles and reviews out there, but most of them focus on comparing ubuntu phone (UP from now on) to other phone OSs - with their fully grown app universe. of course UP comes up short!
but that's not what i'm interested in. OS stability, and the standard browsing, music and video, and of course phone and sms is good enough for me.
but, i want the same freedom i have with my linux desktop install: to Do Things.
(my most important project is still to get a usable connection to the data & media stored on my kitchenserver.)
the day before yesterday i had a chat with someone on #ubuntu-phone - i think it was a dev.
i asked if i can use & upgrade it like any normal ubuntu/debian-based, install apps and utilities and so on.
basically he said, gui apps are difficult because UP uses a different gui model than Xorg, but basically yes, but you loose you guarantee that OTA (over the air) updates will work. but they should, regardless.
yesterday i was browsing the ubuntu phone section on ubuntu forums; of course people only post if something doesn't work - it looks like a normal and healthy distro forum to me.
OTA updates come in almost daily, i gather. very lively development.
there was, however, a lot of familiar discussions about how to get some app or other working; familiar from my 2 android phones: convoluted and fragile solutions, like installing ubuntu desktop in a chroot.
UP even recommends adb (android debug bridge?) as the only way to access the phone from your computer. or the standard mtp connection. so it's the same **** as everywhere.
the other aspect is this:
- ok, android is big, evil google, but there's a few established solutions around to use it without an account, use f-droid instead of play store, well documented security hacks and so on.
- UP certainly isn't the white knight here, but if not google, what do they use, is it really "better" than google and can i opt out easily?
yes, i am seriously considering to buy a UP phone, as soon as i get the feeling that it is an improvement freedom and security wise.
i wonder what people's experience or informed opinion is?
bump
...just a gentle one before the weekend ends.
i'd love to get some answers...

Help installing Paint.net on my surface RT

Short version: Hi, I need help to install paint.net on my Surface RT (running Win8.1RT, no jailbreak), been reading the threads around here but having absolutely no luck and I'm lost, many threads have deleted comments and I'm not sure on the continuity or lost content, if someone could guide me I will be really thankful.
Long version:
Hi, I'm late to the Surface RT party but I've been a reader of this website for years finding solutions and guidance to solve diff device issues. Found several sources (including this forum) explaining Paint.net (and other apps) can be somehow installed and run on the Surface RT, but honestly I'm lost with the "how". I'm not lazy, I do read and do my research before asking, it's just... the threads don't seem complete.
- Several threads have broken (download) links
- Several threads have deleted comments and I'm not clear on the continuity of the conversation
- I'm really confused on the jailbreak(s) and conflicts with update packages from Microsoft (producing interferences)
- Found some zip downloads identified for RT here and on other places with no instructions except "download" but the app paint.net does not run on my Surface RT, and after trying on my Win10 machine they do run on X86 (dual code? or probably not ARM after all)
- Found videos about what to do to install and run "untrusted apps" but that didn't help, and the videos have lots of comments stating it doesn't work and how it makes no sense the "untrusted" mention regarding instructions for apps found on the Store
- Found a list of ported apps (here) but I think it's quite outdated, the packages don't work or are broken and 404 not found, etc.
- The instructions regarding an alternate Store don't sound complete to me, it didn't work (I couldn't even execute the exe on my RT) and besides I just need paint.net (and this doesn't appear on the Microsoft Store, so sideload using the tool sounds confusing to me)
I'm really lost, honestly the info seems broken, well, I understand it's been years and I'm late to the party. My main interest goes to paint.net, perhaps notepad ++ and that's it. MyTube does work on my device. Interesting because when I tried several times it didn't appear on the MS Store, but somehow one day it was there and I was able to install it, I like it and does what I need.
Why playing with a Surface RT on 2020? I like it, specially the battery life, it's a nice device and does what I need (except simple image manipulation and sure, no modern internet browsing).
On a sidenote: updating to Windows 10? (RT / ARM)??? It's been a couple of months of reading and researching and I'm not sure, I don't see lots of people genuinely happy. It is not a risk I'm comfortable taking, the instructions are long and technical (I could put effort on that) but I see too many people complaining on issues, bricked devices, some report the instructions not working and some reporting the work wasn't really worth it at the end. Besides in my case when I tried came across a message stating bitlocker being active (yet it's not applied to the disk), there was an option stating "skip this drive" but I decided to stop and didn't continue, I'm not sure what does that mean, "skip?" would I loose space on the disk?. Well I'm not making two questions on one thread, just discarding the options to have a better RT, and updating to Windows 10 still doesn't feel safe to me. If anyone could share some experiences, freedom to install some additional apps, better browsing or performance, I will be happy to read.
Thanks in advance.
I cannot provide any assistance but I want to add that I am too on the same road. I have a functional RT and wouldn't mind meeting it up but I would like to have a fighting chance. Unfortunately, like you said, the info is incomplete or outdated.
If anyone has knowledge of the complete requirements to put a Windows 10 on this, or make it otherwise more useful again, it would be highly appreciated.
Danacy said:
I cannot provide any assistance but I want to add that I am too on the same road. I have a functional RT and wouldn't mind meeting it up but I would like to have a fighting chance. Unfortunately, like you said, the info is incomplete or outdated.
If anyone has knowledge of the complete requirements to put a Windows 10 on this, or make it otherwise more useful again, it would be highly appreciated.
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Exactly. I've seen great effort from old forum members over this, but I guess many are retired and others are tired of talking about the topic, and yes, many bits of info are missing or outdated, some threads are impossible to follow, specially now after the forum upgrade (removing the dead messages).
Regarding upgrading to Windows 10, you can check here
and here:
How to install Windows 10 on the Surface RT - Alexenferman
www.alexenferman.com
Beware, it might not work and as stated by the author: you could end up with a bricked device.
There are lots stating they could do it and now have Windows 10 on their Surface RT. There is even a guy right now selling one locally already with W10 (but way too expensive). Just as this topic on installing stuff, I also found the same in regard to W10: lots of messages but little meat, and rarely a detailed or serious report on how it went, while there are also reports of bricked and failed devices.
This might be of your interest:
Being that said... I can tell you I tried, but it didn't work, my story was posted here:
Windows 10 on Surface RT working (edited thread)
Read carefully, this is about the installation of Windows 10 ARM32 on the Surface RT1. Previously tried the Elektrohax tutorial (video on youtube and also posted at Alexenferman.com) but I was unlucky on my attempts. This is the mentioned...
forum.xda-developers.com
BUT... I got lucky, my device is not bricked and I managed to install and keep the patched version of Windows 8.1 for the RT, I have that one now, applied the patches just as if I was going to install again Windows 10, but I didn't, it remains as it is in that step.
What I have now is the same device with a different W8.1 RT, more space, everything works, and I can run ported apps (I now have Paint.Net, Filezilla and others). I still don't have a better internet exprience but I like things as they are right now. The speed of W8.1 RT with the extension of new apps.
Perhaps this is helpful to you, of perhaps you get to overcome the obstacles I found and get W10 on your device, good luck, whatever happens: confirm, this is useful to new people trying.
Updated: it works, finally got W10 installed based on the video tutorial and the steps described at Alexen Ferman website. Some details here:
Windows 10 on Surface RT working (edited thread)
Read carefully, this is about the installation of Windows 10 ARM32 on the Surface RT1. Previously tried the Elektrohax tutorial (video on youtube and also posted at Alexenferman.com) but I was unlucky on my attempts. This is the mentioned...
forum.xda-developers.com
Good luck.

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