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Wasn't really sure where to put this, since there isn't a forum for this device but thought people here might be interested?
First impressions are incredibly favourable.
It feels absolutely incredible in the hand with how slim it is, and the build materials are stellar - a refreshing change from Samsung's usual gear (every now and again they show that they really can make extremely classy looking and feeling devices, only wish they did that more often!). The screen is amazing, but I only realised how good it is when I had it next to my Transformer Prime - I thought the Prime's screen was stellar (best on a tablet yet I thought) but the 7.7 makes it look thoroughly average.
It's HC 3.2 with TW, and runs pretty well with just the occasional tiny micro-hitch here and there (the Prime's Tegra 3 is the only device I've had so far that could drive HC well enough to call 'buttery'). I noted with interest that there is no lag typing in the browser with a software keyboard, must be something Samsung have done to it because even the Prime had attrocious lag in HC in browser typing...
Need to get some stupid proprietary connectors tomorrow and can then do usual connectivity test and video...
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where'd you get it? is it GSM? does it have voice calling feature enabled? is the SAMOLED+ as good as its hyped up to be. How much did it cost?
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where'd you get it? is it GSM? does it have voice calling feature enabled? is the SAMOLED+ as good as its hyped up to be. How much did it cost?
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Got it from Mobicity, mine isn't the 3G one, but it is available (and by the looks of it calling should be possible for those inclined!).
The SAMOLED+ is pretty stunning. Only a couple of days ago I was saying how the Transformer Prime has the best screen on a tablet but side-by-side the 7.7 blows it away (I think in Super-IPS mode the Prime will have a significant advantage for outdoors usability though).
Price was in the order of $750NZD from memory, as always with a device at release there is a premium to be paid.
very nice. yeah here's the link for 3g version described aas full voice calling ability..
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-16gb-3g.html
I think Im all set with my 7.0+ until a nice quad core 7" with voice comes along with some beefed up specs.
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very nice. yeah here's the link for 3g version described aas full voice calling ability..
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-16gb-3g.html
I think Im all set with my 7.0+ until a nice quad core 7" with voice comes along with some beefed up specs.
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Yep, if you're happy with that screen size I see no reason not to wait and pick up the ASUS one, amazing price point on that!
Yep.. the only thing they didn't do well is... price Almost twice as much as for the 7+ ?!? For a bumped screen and CPU clock? Come on Samsung, you can do better!
For that price I would expect it to be twice as fast and have at least HDMI out built it...
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Yep.. the only thing they didn't do well is... price Almost twice as much as for the 7+ ?!? For a bumped screen and CPU clock? Come on Samsung, you can do better!
For that price I would expect it to be twice as fast and have at least HDMI out built it...
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Have we gotten a confirmation for pricing in the US yet? Pricing this above $479 is a mistake.
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Kiwi's lose out on price; in Australia you can pick the wifi version up for about $550. I reckon I've seen it on the grey market for about $500.
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NZtechfreak said:
Wasn't really sure where to put this, since there isn't a forum for this device but thought people here might be interested?
First impressions are incredibly favourable.
It feels absolutely incredible in the hand with how slim it is, and the build materials are stellar - a refreshing change from Samsung's usual gear (every now and again they show that they really can make extremely classy looking and feeling devices, only wish they did that more often!). The screen is amazing, but I only realised how good it is when I had it next to my Transformer Prime - I thought the Prime's screen was stellar (best on a tablet yet I thought) but the 7.7 makes it look thoroughly average.
It's HC 3.2 with TW, and runs pretty well with just the occasional tiny micro-hitch here and there (the Prime's Tegra 3 is the only device I've had so far that could drive HC well enough to call 'buttery'). I noted with interest that there is no lag typing in the browser with a software keyboard, must be something Samsung have done to it because even the Prime had attrocious lag in HC in browser typing...
Need to get some stupid proprietary connectors tomorrow and can then do usual connectivity test and video...
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I also have the wifi version and its really amazing...screen is just wow..
Does your touchwiz version allows editing mini apps tray ..somehow some people with 3g version seems to have it but mine does not
Do you have the original tab plus? Could you do a size and weight comparison? I want to see how much thinner and lighter it is compare to the tab+
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Do you have the original tab plus? Could you do a size and weight comparison? I want to see how much thinner and lighter it is compare to the tab+
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Weight :Tab+ is 345 gm , 7.7 is 340 gm.
Thickness : Tab+ 9.9 mm , 7.7 is 7.9 mm
Hi, I have the gsm 3g version, it does indeed have voice calls its kind of like a big phone really, I got mine from panamoz.com ordered on monday night and recieved at 1pm on the friday.
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I got the 3G 7.7 a couple of days ago. I'm in the US and ordered it from negrielectronics.com for about US$650 plus shipping. They shipped it on Tuesday and I got it on Thursday - how convenient that we had a winter storm in Chicago and we got sent home from work, so I could be home to receive it :-D The model I have is the silver-backed one, and looks like it came from Hong Kong.
I took it to an AT&T store today to activate it on a month-to-month data plan. The staff were drooling over it! FYI for anyone else doing the same thing, they had to fake the IMEI in their system to get it to come up with the correct data plan, as their system did not recognise my Tab's IMEI, with it not being an AT&T device. They ended up using the IMEI of one of the HSDPA (*not* LTE) tablets they had in the store. Also, after it was all activated, I had to go into the APN settings and add a new APN titled "broadband" (no username/password) for data to actually work.
I love this Tab - the hardware is spectacular, and the screen is out of this world! My only dilemma is what to do about my Tab 7plus, which I've had for about a month. I'm still within return period for that, but there's something about the 7plus where, for all the tech whizzbangery of the 7.7, the 7plus just feels that little bit more personal.... It might just be that because the 7plus has the rougher back, it's a bit easier to hold one-handed. The 7.7 is a bit slippy.
About ready to order a 7.7 myself from negri...but wifi only. Just worried about U.S. Developed roms being compatible down the road when the US version launches. Does your IR blaster work?
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Hello guys.
I also got a 7.7 3g a couple days ago and registered here to share some impressions and questions. Coming from a galaxy s plus and iPad, this is my first experience with honeycomb.
The hardware is great, as has been said many times. The tablet is gorgeous, a little heavier than it's svelte looks may suggest and feels solid, gets barely warm, a pleasure to hold.
The size is ideal for web browsing on the move, pages in landscape are generally easy to read without need of zooming and panning around. I also find amoled screens to strain eyes a little less than lcd thanks to the potentially darker colors.
Battery life is ok, not incredible. I got over 8 hours of random use with wifi and auto screen luminosity.
The software is a different story.
The preloaded Swype keyboard is bugged. On large documents, double tapping a word to select it causes the editor to scroll to the top and select a random block from the first lines. The frequency of this happening seems correlated with the dimension of the document - almost always on the 100Kb file I'm working with now, but you don't need to get nearly as large.
I verified the bug with three different editors, jota, 920, and the built in note app. It's less apparent on the latter as it only handles short notes, but still happens constantly on specific words.
It's especially annoying because the keyboard is otherwise excellent, imo more responsive to fast swipes and accurate in text prediction than the commercial SlideIT alternative, it even has cursor and edit keys accessible with a couple taps.
Other issues I imagine belong to honeycomb and well known here, but were a surprise to me, used to a fine gingerbread experience.
The interface suffers from significant hiccups. Apps can't write on the micro SD, thought as consolation Samsung's preloaded file manager allows to copy data to it.
Multitasking is unreliable for serious work as background apps get randomly closed and lose data. Registering to this forum I left Dolphin browser to open the verification email, went back to find all tabs gone. The same browser on a phone with half the ram rarely if ever had the issue.
App crashes have also been much more common, included one with the pre installed pen memo app, few with the settings manager, more with Dolphin.
I'll cut it before this becomes a rant on the OS. I'm interested in knowing if others can reproduce the keyboard problem, to make sure it's not my device to be defective.
Bottom line, ICS can't come soon enough and hopefully will address issues. This tablet needs and deserves better than the stuff it's running now.
Btw, I got it from Negri too, excellent service. There is no IR gun, it may be specific to other models or just have been removed from the final specs.
thank u for that in depth review!
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fabiovolta said:
Hello guys.
The software is a different story.
The preloaded Swype keyboard is bugged. On large documents, double tapping a word to select it causes the editor to scroll to the top and select a random block from the first lines. The frequency of this happening seems correlated with the dimension of the document - almost always on the 100Kb file I'm working with now, but you don't need to get nearly as large.
I verified the bug with three different editors, jota, 920, and the built in note app. It's less apparent on the latter as it only handles short notes, but still happens constantly on specific words.
It's especially annoying because the keyboard is otherwise excellent, imo more responsive to fast swipes and accurate in text prediction than the commercial SlideIT alternative, it even has cursor and edit keys accessible with a couple taps.
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I find swipe-type keyboards rather useless on tablets because of the size of the device, and even though this one is smaller I still never want to use them here either.
Try Swiftkey Tablet X or Thumb Keyboard, much better for me (I would think the majority of Android tablet owners are using one of these two keyboards).
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App crashes have also been much more common, included one with the pre installed pen memo app, few with the settings manager, more with Dolphin.
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Dolphin seems to have issues at the moment, I'm seeing reports like that across multiple device forums, try Opera Mobile instead?
I've not had any problems with app crashes myself.
Anyone tried playing YouTube videos in a browser in Galaxy Tab 7.7? I've tried stock browser and Dolphin Browser, but neither seems to be able to play YouTube videos. (I was able to do so when I was using Galaxy S II without the YouTube app.) The latest version of Adobe Flash Player is installed. Any ideas?
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I got the 3G 7.7 a couple of days ago. I'm in the US and ordered it from negrielectronics.com for about US$650 plus shipping. They shipped it on Tuesday and I got it on Thursday - how convenient that we had a winter storm in Chicago and we got sent home from work, so I could be home to receive it :-D The model I have is the silver-backed one, and looks like it came from Hong Kong.
I took it to an AT&T store today to activate it on a month-to-month data plan. The staff were drooling over it! FYI for anyone else doing the same thing, they had to fake the IMEI in their system to get it to come up with the correct data plan, as their system did not recognise my Tab's IMEI, with it not being an AT&T device. They ended up using the IMEI of one of the HSDPA (*not* LTE) tablets they had in the store. Also, after it was all activated, I had to go into the APN settings and add a new APN titled "broadband" (no username/password) for data to actually work.
I love this Tab - the hardware is spectacular, and the screen is out of this world! My only dilemma is what to do about my Tab 7plus, which I've had for about a month. I'm still within return period for that, but there's something about the 7plus where, for all the tech whizzbangery of the 7.7, the 7plus just feels that little bit more personal.... It might just be that because the 7plus has the rougher back, it's a bit easier to hold one-handed. The 7.7 is a bit slippy.
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congrats. I would have never brought this into my local AT&T store, they would have tried to make sure it never gets used on their network, and would have threatened me to cancel my unlimited data plan (grandfathered). you're a brave man. they were very nice to help you.
I might actually want the 7.7, if it had a thin/slim bezel.
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Anyone tried playing YouTube videos in a browser in Galaxy Tab 7.7? I've tried stock browser and Dolphin Browser, but neither seems to be able to play YouTube videos. (I was able to do so when I was using Galaxy S II without the YouTube app.) The latest version of Adobe Flash Player is installed. Any ideas?
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I have the hongkong 6800 version and it plays hd youtube videos fine...
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Mostly all I see here are complaints about this and that. Does anyone have anything good to say about the Infinity?
It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
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It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
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For you, yeah, but my pad's coming in a lot of days.
Mine will be arriving on Wednesday, I hope I can add a few positive things.
My keyboard dock arrived on Friday, and while its just a prime dock (since it seems there's no difference between the two I saw no reason to wait for an infinity dock) I cant get over how thin it is. Considering it has a battery in it, I was expecting it to be at least twice as thick. This beast of a tablet is going to look amazing docked.
Awesome screen! But you knew that already...
Battery life is impressive.
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It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
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The same here, can't wait to get this guy today! It actually left Oakland VERY early Saturday morning on the 130 mile trip north to Ukiah (the UPS "Hub" for Mendocino and Lake Counties), so it's been sitting there all weekend, now for a 9 mile trip north today on a pretty, brown van to my doorstep in Redwood Valley
Lots of good things to say, but I'm too busy enjoying the tablet for that. I need the vent the frustration arising from the issues, however.
To give it a shot: everything except I/O? Just kidding, as far as phrasing goes. The two most impressive points: the screen is great (brightness is very high, definition is great), and the keyboard is pretty good for a mobile keyboard (even gets you a set of shortcut keys; it took Logitech years to think of that) and provides significant extra run time.
OK, now I'm off to the beach. :laugh:
MartyHulskemper said:
Lots of good things to say, but I'm too busy enjoying the tablet for that. I need the vent the frustration arising from the issues, however.
To give it a shot: everything except I/O? Just kidding, as far as phrasing goes. The two most impressive points: the screen is great (brightness is very high, definition is great), and the keyboard is pretty good for a mobile keyboard (even gets you a set of shortcut keys; it took Logitech years to think of that) and provides significant extra run time.
OK, now I'm off to the beach. :laugh:
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Where ya at? It's pitch black over on our Mendocino Coast http://www.visitmendocino.com
Theshawty said:
Mostly all I see here are complaints about this and that. Does anyone have anything good to say about the Infinity?
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Nope.
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Nope.
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wow...
Jotokun said:
Mine will be arriving on Wednesday, I hope I can add a few positive things.
My keyboard dock arrived on Friday, and while its just a prime dock (since it seems there's no difference between the two I saw no reason to wait for an infinity dock) I cant get over how thin it is. Considering it has a battery in it, I was expecting it to be at least twice as thick. This beast of a tablet is going to look amazing docked.
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Are you saying that you're gonna use the dock from a Prime with your Infinity Tab ?
I didn't think that was possible.
http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-infinity/specification/
Just below the picture of the keyboard dock...
"(The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)"
I'm posting this with my Infinity, which I've had for 4 solid days now. There are a couple niggling things, one being the speaker placement, the other being the occasional IO hiccup. Other than that, it works very well. I'm quite happy with it thus far. I have it tethered via my phone here on my desk at work for personal stuff that is blocked by work, and it does everything I need it to. The screen is great, sharp, good colors, the included Asus widgets and Asus settings are very handy.
Like was mentioned, the keyboard has it's own shortcuts and settings keys, all of which make it perfect for what I use it for.
I use it for skyping with my wife (assigned overseas), netflix while cooking (where the speaker placement is an issue for low volume shows on netflix) exercising, etc, keeping up with forums, groupme, twitter, facebook, quick internet access while gaming...
It does all of this well. This was an upgrade to my Kindle Fire while I'll hardly use from now on, and hand it down to one of the kids.
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Are you saying that you're gonna use the dock from a Prime with your Infinity Tab ?
I didn't think that was possible.
http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-infinity/specification/
Just below the picture of the keyboard dock...
"(The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)"
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That may be the official web site, but that's just plain not correct. Take a look in the main thread, there's currently a big discussion over how the only difference between the two is the box.
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Agree with above, only trouble is I/o and single weak speaker. Otherwise this tab is quality build, sexyscreen, and snappy as hell. I recommend it. I'm not sure where the idea that all reviews are bad come from. Once we get unlocked boot loader I can only see things improving.
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Yeah.. I love this Tablet. I love everything about it.. except I wish there was more stock keyboard choices! lol
I think most happy users are happily using it. Those that are unhappy talk about it a lot, and likely in multiple places. So the appearance is a ton of complaints. It's a common thing with internet forums. Most of the installed base are silent, while the majority of those speaking out are the unhappy ones.
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I have had my Infinity since Friday. I bought the Prime when it first came out and returned it 28 days later due to multiple issues that are still not fixed today.
The Infinity seems to be a first class device.
Positives.
Runs Android not IOS.
Screen is superb. Very bright and very clear. It is wonderful having HD display.
WiFi is excellent. have used it in multiple networks and have not had any issues.
GPS works flawlessly.
My Prime keyboard DOC that I could not return works with the Infinity.
Free 8GB cloud storage included with the Infinity through Asus Web Storage.
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I can not stream Netflix when using a bluetooth headset. I get constant buffering. Using a wired headset though works flawlessly.
During initial setup when I was installing all my apps from the play store. Shortcuts were automatically being put on my home screen. If I happened to be deleting a shortcut at the same time as one was being set to my home screen the launcher would quit and restart. This may be due to the IO issue discussed in depth.
I am very happy with the infinity.
Had to lead an outdoor event yesterday and ran it off my Infinity. the Super IPS+ lived up to its rep. I was in direct sunlight and had no trouble reading what I had there.
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During initial setup when I was installing all my apps from the play store. Shortcuts were automatically being put on my home screen. If I happened to be deleting a shortcut at the same time as one was being set to my home screen the launcher would quit and restart. This may be due to the IO issue discussed in depth.
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you have to turn this off in the Play store. in settings, uncheck "Auto add Widgets"
The screen is excellent
The additional storage options with dock are great (I have 96gb total in my machine now)
The dock works great and makes typing much better
The wifi is working great
Smooth UI
Just returned the Surface.
Lag opening apps. This is from a complete new Surface that has been restored and no apps launched yet.
Slow network. Way way slow. This is on a very good connection at home. Other mobile devices have no where the amount of lag. This is using IE in RT. I suspect this is IE rendering issues
Very sluggish performance overall. This is with the latest first party apps updated. Wether takes around 30 seconds to load. Mail takes about 30-60 seconds to load with one account, gmail.
While I think MS might have something here. I suspect or hope there running a newer build then what was released As this should have not been let out. It's just not fast enough to just pickup and start using since I am used to better performance, from Android, Apple.
Software can be fixed. Hardware is the real story. The hardware on the surface is really good. I think these little things can be fixed...
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Just returned the Surface.
Lag opening apps. This is from a complete new Surface that has been restored and no apps launched yet.
Slow network. Way way slow. This is on a very good connection at home. Other mobile devices have no where the amount of lag. This is using IE in RT. I suspect this is IE rendering issues
Very sluggish performance overall. This is with the latest first party apps updated. Wether takes around 30 seconds to load. Mail takes about 30-60 seconds to load with one account, gmail.
While I think MS might have something here. I suspect or hope there running a newer build then what was released As this should have not been let out. It's just not fast enough to just pickup and start using since I am used to better performance, from Android, Apple.
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How new is it - there have been a number of updates already. Make sure you have them. Some will not update unless you are on AC power to avoid battery being depleted during update (Like the full Office update). There is also a Refresh PC option under PC options somewhere. You could also do a restart/reboot. There are some quirks which we are all working thorugh but.
There does seem to be an issue with lag when having multiple apps going but from what I read MS will be releasing a fix for that
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Software can be fixed. Hardware is the real story. The hardware on the surface is really good. I think these little things can be fixed...
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At least, they can't fix the lack of NFC, GPS and 3G/4G...
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ie sucks donkey ****, no contest.
other than that, very minimal lag. sometimes the news app stops loading but that's about it. mail loads in 2-3 seconds
I dunno man... I am absolutely loving mine. Super fast speeds while browsing the net in IE. Mail and other apps load in a two seconds or so.
Maybe you should have tried to exchange for another unit. It is fairly expensive...but I think its a completely new way to use a computer.
While there aren't tons of official apps yet , there are some pretty fantastic apps out there that meet pretty much all of my needs.
I do think the traditional desktop should be gone completely though ...its all but useless on the surface.
could also be faulty unit.. apps generally takes longer to load at first but gets faster soon afterwards.
I haven't seen any lag whatsoever on my unit. Maybe your router is incompatible with modern standards? Or your unit was defective?
My Surface RT is definitely one of the fastest tablets I have ever used. Although, I will add that its speed is in multitasking, not in launching apps.
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Just returned the Surface.
Lag opening apps. This is from a complete new Surface that has been restored and no apps launched yet.
Slow network. Way way slow. This is on a very good connection at home. Other mobile devices have no where the amount of lag. This is using IE in RT. I suspect this is IE rendering issues
Very sluggish performance overall. This is with the latest first party apps updated. Wether takes around 30 seconds to load. Mail takes about 30-60 seconds to load with one account, gmail.
While I think MS might have something here. I suspect or hope there running a newer build then what was released As this should have not been let out. It's just not fast enough to just pickup and start using since I am used to better performance, from Android, Apple.
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weird. no sluggish performance for me...... no idea why yours is taking that long to load apps.... and zero problems with wifi.
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weird. no sluggish performance for me...... no idea why yours is taking that long to load apps.... and zero problems with wifi.
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I do not have any performances issues either. I own an iPad 2 and I like better the multitask implementation in WinRT than in iOS.
Anyone's soft touch keyboard extremely positional? It seems like I have to wiggle the connection to get the damn thing to work.
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I do not have any performances issues either. I own an iPad 2 and I like better the multitask implementation in WinRT than in iOS.
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You guys really aren't having any performance issues with IE? That makes me wonder if maybe mine is defective in some way. Often when I load a webpage it will load part way and then just kind of hang for 30 seconds or so. Its really frustrating. I'm really loving other than that.
No performance issues experienced whatsoever. Love the build quality and speed of WiFi is very good. Found my HP Office Jet Pro printer instantly and I am printing too it now.
I'll definitely be looking at the pro for comparison sake as I already have an ultrabook and don't need 2.
The RT serves my needs as a "tweener" device.
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This post adds no value to this forum. Did you try measuring your internet speed, cpu, and memory usage with task manager? How slow is it compared to what?
IE10 is one of the fastest browsers there and it is really hard to believe all of what you said is true.
As I said, IE sucks. I wish we had chrome for this bad boy. I do notice a slow down in typed characters appearing on the screen if I have a lot of apps open. Try to close them when youre done and that seems to help.
Anyone figure a way to close all open apps at once?
PS. One thing I had no clue about until today, the Microsoft logo on the front is actually a button!!
I returned mine after a day also. I think it has amazing potential, I just couldn't deal with the lag and resolution. I really do hope it makes it though.
I have noticed lag with the Modern UI version of IE but not the desktop version. I've been surprisingly happy with the desktop IE. I actually cancelled my RT order a week and a day before it was released and chatted with MS every day to make sure it was cancelled. It shipped anyway and I was SURE I was going to return it right up until the point that I opened the box. As soon as that happened I knew it wasn't going anywhere without me....lol. I love this thing. I may still upgrade to the Pro when it releases but I am kind of doubting that even, now. I can't wait to see the app development for this thing in the near future. I also love that all of the desktop stuff is still there like Computer Management, Control Panel and whatnot. I do wish I could join it to a domain and use POP email with the mail client but third party apps will fix some of that.
I'm surprised to see the resolution was a problem for you falconeight. I have been pretty impressed with the screen even compared to my wife's iPad 3. Oh and just to add to the fanboyisms I have really been surprised at how usable the touch cover has been as well. Maybe I am easily impressed, I don't know.
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I have noticed lag with the Modern UI version of IE but not the desktop version. I've been surprisingly happy with the desktop IE. I actually cancelled my RT order a week and a day before it was released and chatted with MS every day to make sure it was cancelled. It shipped anyway and I was SURE I was going to return it right up until the point that I opened the box. As soon as that happened I knew it wasn't going anywhere without me....lol. I love this thing. I may still upgrade to the Pro when it releases but I am kind of doubting that even, now. I can't wait to see the app development for this thing in the near future. I also love that all of the desktop stuff is still there like Computer Management, Control Panel and whatnot. I do wish I could join it to a domain and use POP email with the mail client but third party apps will fix some of that.
I'm surprised to see the resolution was a problem for you falconeight. I have been pretty impressed with the screen even compared to my wife's iPad 3. Oh and just to add to the fanboyisms I have really been surprised at how usable the touch cover has been as well. Maybe I am easily impressed, I don't know.
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I agree with everything you said. I don think though that a lot of text is slight pixeled but not enough to complain or throw a fit. I guess im just not an early adopter. Why do you think the pro would be better? I kind of like the idea of a stripped down version of the OS. It makes it thinner lighter and easier. Oh and the touch cover is damn amazing I would be willing to say that it is the best piece of tech released in the last 2 years.
I was also surprised to see the OP - if the complaint was apps, I can see that, but I have also had no lag whatsoever - opening apps or otherwise.
My Surface did have 4 or 5 updates that were just installed on Saturday evening. Perhaps that would have fixed the issue?
As for the comments regarding GPS and CPD radios - the Galaxy Nexus Tabs don't have CPD options either. Maps works very well - it found my location perfectly even without GPS.
I'm starting to get the trend of putting more tech in the phone (NFC, GPS, CPD) and less tech in the tablets. Many of these wireless technologies are more well suited to pocket friendly devices. You wouldn't want to use Google Wallet or ISIS with a tablet (imagine how silly you'd look).
The Surface is not perfect, but for someone that needs a tablet as more of a productivity tool and less of a gaming platform and toy, I find it to be the best tablet offering currently available.
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I have noticed lag with the Modern UI version of IE but not the desktop version. I've been surprisingly happy with the desktop IE. I actually cancelled my RT order a week and a day before it was released and chatted with MS every day to make sure it was cancelled. It shipped anyway and I was SURE I was going to return it right up until the point that I opened the box. As soon as that happened I knew it wasn't going anywhere without me....lol. I love this thing. I may still upgrade to the Pro when it releases but I am kind of doubting that even, now. I can't wait to see the app development for this thing in the near future. I also love that all of the desktop stuff is still there like Computer Management, Control Panel and whatnot. I do wish I could join it to a domain and use POP email with the mail client but third party apps will fix some of that.
I'm surprised to see the resolution was a problem for you falconeight. I have been pretty impressed with the screen even compared to my wife's iPad 3. Oh and just to add to the fanboyisms I have really been surprised at how usable the touch cover has been as well. Maybe I am easily impressed, I don't know.
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If you planned to return it why did you open the box?
Like the title says.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ggee.vividruntime.gg_1638
Anyways, I'll be downloading this asap and I'll let everyone know if Xperia Play support is still available in this release and how well it works.
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Like the title says.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ggee.vividruntime.gg_1638
Anyways, I'll be downloading this asap and I'll let everyone know if Xperia Play support is still available in this release and how well it works.
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No, it's not been improved any, from what it was.
Well, I hadn't played the JP version but I can say the Play controls work well enough but the lag is **** awful. Messing with settings right now but even no sound and low resolution don't seem to do the trick.
Would certainly not recommend this at $9.00. If you have an overclocked device give it a go but I can't find a way to make it run like anything but ass on stock.
Holy ****! Wish there was a demo to try.
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Would certainly not recommend this at $9.00. If you have an overclocked device give it a go but I can't find a way to make it run like anything but ass on stock.
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Game runs fine here on stock GB, sim free, rooted uk R800i, no lag, no sound issues, looks, plays and sounds as good as the DC original.
Slide the pnone open and you can use the D-Pad, and screen buttons or mix it up and use touch for move, and physical buttons.
Dunno what your issues are, but it's fine here.
Maybe reboot your device, or clear some crap from your phone/check whats running when the game is played..
And run G-Gee offline, that's more bother than it's worth.
I bought the Japanese version, which sits at game version 1.0.0, same as the Western version, it's just the G-Gee programme that was updated, not the game with the recent update a couple of days ago/Western Release.
Not ideal but playable on my xplay, levels work great, but some slowdown during the first two bosses.
Perspective is very disorienting
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Game runs fine here on stock GB, sim free, rooted uk R800i, no lag, no sound issues, looks, plays and sounds as good as the DC original.
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Also running fine on stock for me.
No tweaks, no nothin'... just a root+debloat.
Heres a little video I made about Ikaruga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924RTWq0abs
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Heres a little video I made about Ikaruga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924RTWq0abs
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Cook, but a couple of inconsistencies with your review(on your site).
The ships are white and black, not red and blue, same with bullets(although the black bullets do have a red.hue to them).
And please don't mention the Gamecube version, it was an abomination, IMO.
It may be a shooter, in the sense you shoot things, but it's more of a bullet ballet, and memory game, as knowing where and when to chain, is vital, for a decent score/decent game, with attack patterns and boss patterns having to be foremost to enjoy the game.
Also, as you know, the game is available around the world, so you don't need market enabler any more to buy it.
And if you play with the network disabled/internet off, G-Gee doesn't hinder gameplay, and you get a screen that you just press the "Play" button to get to the game.
EspGaluda II and DoDonPachi Resurrection are another two titles worthy of your money, to add to your shooter collection, BTW.
Cool, thanks for the feedback. I made the video review a while ago for another site but it was never used. I decided to branch out on my own and I needed a starter article while I work on other aspects of the site so I threw that up real quick. Of course that very day the Global version comes out, I figured it would be best to leave the references in there seeing as how it was the japanese version I originally reviewed. I probably should update it though.
Well hopefully someone gets a video of it running on the Play because even after a clean reboot it runs terrible on my device. How do you run G-Gee offline btw?
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Well hopefully someone gets a video of it running on the Play because even after a clean reboot it runs terrible on my device. How do you run G-Gee offline btw?
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Brian, click on Legion's link to his site..he has it running on Android in the video in his review, it's not a Play it's on, but that's how mine runs, smooth, no lag, and plays just fine with the D-Pad slid out, and using the onscreen buttons for fire/change, and laser.
As to G-Gee, Just disable your wifi or your data connection.
Start Ikaruga, the G-Gee screen appears, and it should then go to a blank screen, with something like "Network Error", or "No Network", in the middle, with a logo top left, and as *mine is the Japanese version*, on the top right, I assume it says "Play Game",
Hit that, game starts, and to end it, long press on the back button and select Exit.
This, and DoDonPachi Resurrection, and EspGaluda II all run fine offline with wifi/network disabled.
In the video it runs quite a bit better than it does on my device but there is still a lot of choppiness. I'd love to see that same phone playing level 5 since each level (due to the increasing amount of enemies) runs slower and slower for me. Either way, if mine ran as well as the device in the video I'd probably be a lot less angry but I still wouldn't call it a great or even good port.
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but I still wouldn't call it a great or even good port.
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I't's the same as the original version, so I wonder how could it be any more towards "good"?
Ok sure. That is a Galaxy S3 right? It does not perform to my liking on an incredibly high end phone even though the hardware is more than capable had more work been put in to the port. JSR, Expendables, Crazy Taxi on the i-products have all translated well to newer devices (not using the Play as a benchmark here, keep in mind). It is a $9.00 application that is attached to a social networking program, something which I find very irritating. There are no game-play limitations like you would have in Ikaruga for the DC or GC since the game defaults to free-play with a level selector. Changing resolution settings and turning sound off does very little to help with performance which screams of bad port. When playing at the lowest settings the frame-rate becomes incredibly jerky since the game does not have a very good frame limiter. DDP and Espgaluda 2 both worked great on my device but this port clearly has not received as much love.
Works relatively well in my one x, it jinks a bit here and there, but it's mostly very playable.
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Ok sure. That is a Galaxy S3 right? It does not perform to my liking on an incredibly high end phone even though the hardware is more than capable had more work been put in to the port. JSR, Expendables, Crazy Taxi on the i-products have all translated well to newer devices (not using the Play as a benchmark here, keep in mind). It is a $9.00 application that is attached to a social networking program, something which I find very irritating. There are no game-play limitations like you would have in Ikaruga for the DC or GC since the game defaults to free-play with a level selector. Changing resolution settings and turning sound off does very little to help with performance which screams of bad port. When playing at the lowest settings the frame-rate becomes incredibly jerky since the game does not have a very good frame limiter. DDP and Espgaluda 2 both worked great on my device but this port clearly has not received as much love.
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It performs just fine on Xperia Play, so something must be wrong at your end, either bloatware on your phone, or your operator rom/custom rom is rubbish, something interfering with it like apps/software running, or your memory card is either fragmented, or just plain slow.
I use a 32gb class 10 card, stock uk r800i sim free, no bloatware, rooted, a couple of sound mods edited build.prop, and nothing else.
Once you get past the "social networking" programme, the game itself runs directly from the SD card, hence the 170+meg download, it doesn't run from the phone, the .apk that is a couple of megabytes is G-Gee's app, with a link to the game.
The ports fine, it's designed for touch phones/tablets, what more do you expect?
The chaining/gameplay is something that was intended to use buttons and a stick, not swipe controls and 3 areas of touch for fire/lock on/change, but with the phone open the D-pad works well, and the on screen buttons work fine for their purpose.
As to free play, how many people do you imagine want to sit for 10+ hours or whatever it was to unlock things, and up their credits, like the original.?
You don't have to continue, you don't have to pick other levels other than the first, but for those who do, who maybe never unlocked everything, or can't/don't play for hours, it's perfect.
As to your earlier slowdown point, you are aware the original version had deliberate slowdown, and this is present in this version also, which leads me to think this is closer to the original version more so than the 360 ports new coding.
The only thing this version is missing is Shinra walking towards Ikaruga, on the startup screen.
And as to DoDonPachi, and EspGaluda, they're not on par with what ikaruga is, as it's full 3d rendering, etc is hardly a patch on 2d spritesm even though there is a ****load going on..heck some emulated old titles fling around similar amounts of bullets, and sprites.
save backup
can anyone provide a titanium backup for ikaruga 13.01.01 i was playing this game yesterday but after opening the game again game screen just went black i dunno what happened . .tried reinstalling but still the same. thought maybe because my phone is rooted or something. i will try your titanium backup file and see if this solves my problem :/
Just to confirm: is the game Xperia Play optimized? Or do you have to use gamekeyboard?
Hi! I'm looking into buying the Shield Tablet or the Nexus 9. Right now, I'm leaning more towards the Shield Tablet.
Here's a quick versus of the two for me:
Shield Tablet
- $100 cheaper
- Expandable storage
- Lower res meaning probably better in gameplay
- Stylus
- Shield Hub/ Supported Games (I'm not sure about this if there will be games available on the Shield that won't be on the Nexus 9 via the hub)
Nexus 9
- Pure Google device (Came from a Nexus 5 and 7 2013 and yeah love stock)
- Larger screen
- Better Battery; larger and has turbo charge
- 64 bit
So anyway, I've been reading around and a lot of people have been having issues and problems with their Shield Tablet (Wifi and cracks) but I checked the Nvidia forums and apparently that should only be for the first batch of units and they're replacing everyone who has issues. They said they were able to isolate the problem in production and the new batches should be fine. My question is, are people still experiencing issues with the new batches? Is it safe to get one now? Or should I just save up the extra $100 and go for the Nexus 9?
Btw I'm just a student so the extra $100 is a big deal for me just so you guys understand the situation. Also, I'm from the Philippines so when I get it shipped from my relatives in the states, I'm hoping I wouldn't have to send it back because of issues and stuff.
Thanks!
Even if you do, the RMA process means they ship one out to you first before you send your defective unit back. And they include courier labels so no cost to you.
Speaking from experience here. ?
You should be fine in regards to games on Play store; They should be Tegra K1 optimized, so I don't think Nvidia is locking them as 'Shield Tablet optimized'- most of those titles function on the Shield Portable too. Gamestream should also be accessible to you via limelight.
While Nvidia claims that hardware issues were isolated to the first batch, there have been reports and users claiming that it happens on later batches and the LTE model. If RMA is something you're comfortable with doing (sending it to your relatives to RMA), then best luck with the Shield. However, if you want to absolutely avoid having to RMA due to cracking or other issues, try the Nexus 9. One caveat though; The Nexus 9 has thermal throttling, from what I've read.
Not too sure about that Nexus 9 comment. There's definitely a build quality issue with these early batches.
See my post here for my experience. -- There's plenty more of it.
The reason I'm here is because I was considering a shield tablet, after RMAing my Nexus 9. Now it seems both devices have ridiculous build quality issues.
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Not too sure about that Nexus 9 comment. There's definitely a build quality issue with these early batches.
See my post here for my experience. -- There's plenty more of it.
The reason I'm here is because I was considering a shield tablet, after RMAing my Nexus 9. Now it seems both devices have ridiculous build quality issues.
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I have not had any build quality issues with my v shield. Wi-Fi is still a pain in the ass sometimes but that will be fixed with updates.
Otherwise I'm completely satisfied with my tablet. It's powerful runs fast. Kills it on game stream. It's great.
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I have not had any build quality issues with my v shield. Wi-Fi is still a pain in the ass sometimes but that will be fixed with updates.
Otherwise I'm completely satisfied with my tablet. It's powerful runs fast. Kills it on game stream. It's great.
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From what I've read, WiFi performance can be severely impacted based on how one holds the device. If that's true ( and from reading a bit here and on the NV official forums, there is no reason to believe it is 100% false) I would call that a build quality/manufacturing issue. Is that what you are referring to as a "pain in the ass" ?
For me the two biggest concerns are screen cracking (confirmed by NV here) and WiFi signal. The screen cracking issue, while promised to be fixed in a manufacturing refresh still has users with the same issue.
The rest of the tablet specs/reviews I'm pretty happy with, but those two issues are significant enough to stop my purchase.
To clarify, I don't think anyone's screen has cracked. Its corners of the plastic casing. By my estimation the cracking issue is being resolved quietly behind the scenes with silence about it in public.
I have a little trouble with my Shield with wifi dropping but no weak wifi. I do have to restart every day or so which I don't mind. Mine will drop out then if I restart it it works perfect for the rest of the day.
kylethelife said:
Hi! I'm looking into buying the Shield Tablet or the Nexus 9. Right now, I'm leaning more towards the Shield Tablet.
Here's a quick versus of the two for me:
Shield Tablet
- $100 cheaper
- Expandable storage
- Lower res meaning probably better in gameplay (lower res isn't visible!!)
- Stylus
- Shield Hub/ Supported Games (I'm not sure about this if there will be games available on the Shield that won't be on the Nexus 9 via the hub)
Nexus 9
- Pure Google device (Came from a Nexus 5 and 7 2013 and yeah love stock) (Shield is very close to stock and will come very soon with Android L)
- Larger screen (with movies 16:9 playing only little size difference)
- Better Battery; larger and has turbo charge (charges very slow, read postings of users)
- 64 bit (doesn't mean faster!! Read more about it on the web! Antutu scores are about the same!)
So anyway, I've been reading around and a lot of people have been having issues and problems with their Shield Tablet (Wifi and cracks) but I checked the Nvidia forums and apparently that should only be for the first batch of units and they're replacing everyone who has issues. They said they were able to isolate the problem in production and the new batches should be fine. My question is, are people still experiencing issues with the new batches? Is it safe to get one now? Or should I just save up the extra $100 and go for the Nexus 9?
Btw I'm just a student so the extra $100 is a big deal for me just so you guys understand the situation. Also, I'm from the Philippines so when I get it shipped from my relatives in the states, I'm hoping I wouldn't have to send it back because of issues and stuff.
Thanks!
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Iron force problem
The only game I play is Iron Force, and when running, the majority of the screen is white with only a few objects that show up. This needs to be addressed and fixed.
Michigan Jason said:
The only game I play is Iron Force, and when running, the majority of the screen is white with only a few objects that show up. This needs to be addressed and fixed.
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Well considering that you had to sideload that game because it is incompatible in the app store I would say that it is the game not the tablet, you need to talk to Chillingo about that. On that note it is incompatible with a few of my various devices which is not a good sign for the game in general.
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Well considering that you had to sideload that game because it is incompatible in the app store I would say that it is the game not the tablet, you need to talk to Chillingo about that. On that note it is incompatible with a few of my various devices which is not a good sign for the game in general.
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Actually you are wrong. I downloaded it directly from the play store.
Ohh here is proof from NVidia also.
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-game-list/
Notice it is a compatible game.
Nvidia customer support had the white screen on one tablet, then tried it on another and it worked.
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Actually you are wrong. I downloaded it directly from the play store.
Ohh here is proof from NVidia also.
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-game-list/
Notice it is a compatible game.
Nvidia customer support had the white screen on one tablet, then tried it on another and it worked.
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That is weird, what link did you get the game from? When I googled it the play store said it was incompatible with all of my devices.. I currently have a G2, S5, Shield Tab, and N7 (2013) on my account.