In what cases do i lose ota featured?? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does unlock bootloder or root or installing custom recovery make me lose cm ota updates???
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No they don't. Cm can reinstall its recovery and you'll just lose root when you OTA.

if you can i want to root my opo without unlocking bootloadre and i'm on 30o update and nothing seem to work , can you tell me what to do?

m.omdaa said:
if you can i want to root my opo without unlocking bootloadre and i'm on 30o update and nothing seem to work , can you tell me what to do?
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
But on XNPH30O it is not achievable (unless something else was changed). I recommend just unlocking your bootloader, it does no harm unlocking it and having your bootloader unlocked. I've used this analogy in other threads and I'll say it again,
On a OPO (or Nexus Device or HTC), we have a way of unlocking our bootloaders without the need of a exploit to gain root access (e.g. Samsung, LG, etc). Think of it this way, since we have a OPO... you're pretty much given a key (fastboot oem unlock) to unlock the doors to your house. Don't make it difficult on yourself and break into your house through your windows when you can just unlock the door with the key you have.
Just unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash SuperSU.
You can flash OTA updates through a custom recovery of your choice.

Thanks I just rooted my opo ....thanks again
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I heard somewhere that if you run ART runtime, you won't get the OTA's. Any truth to this?

Dan37tz said:
I heard somewhere that if you run ART runtime, you won't get the OTA's. Any truth to this?
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Not to my knowledge. And even if it is, you can just switch it back to dalvik. Only takes 1 minute to switch between run times.

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[Q] If I Root Only? Do I lose warranty?

Hello, I have a Moto G for like the past 4 months and wanted to ask
If I ROOT Only would I lose my warranty?
Could I go back? or anything like before?
I simply want to ROOT it but do NOT want to add Roms or custom things.
Thank You
You need to unlock your phone's bootloader before rooting, so you will lose your warranty.
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rudi_j7 said:
You need to unlock your phone's bootloader before rooting, so you will lose your warranty.
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Can't the stock firmware image be modified to include the 'su' binary and the SuperSU app, and then be flashed through fastboot? (Or whatever the "normal" way is)
I don't really know if its possible, but seems logical
@op no way to retain warranty after unlocking BL atm.
KDB223 said:
Can't the stock firmware image be modified to include the 'su' binary and the SuperSU app, and then be flashed through fastboot? (Or whatever the "normal" way is)
I don't really know if its possible, but seems logical
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For any sort of modification to work, bl needs to unlocked afaik. So not possible :b
adizz4 said:
@op no way to retain warranty after unlocking BL atm.
For any sort of modification to work, bl needs to unlocked afaik. So not possible :b
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I think you didn't get my point.
I meant "modifying" the stock firmware image which is available here on XDA somewhere (I think) to include the "su" binary and SuperSU app, and then flashing that through fastboot (or whatever method).
Flashing the stock firmware doesn't need unlocked BL, AFAIK.
Oops! Looks like it does
Guess I'll have to unlock the BL ultimately :/
KDB223 said:
Can't the stock firmware image be modified to include the 'su' binary and the SuperSU app, and then be flashed through fastboot? (Or whatever the "normal" way is)
I don't really know if its possible, but seems logical
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Firmware images are signed, and if you modify them, they'd need to be resigned. Motorola's signature isn't able to be duplicated yet.
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Anyway, just requesting the key from Motorola, voids the warranty.
If you are in the eu you should still have a warranty no matter what moto say but I don't know if anyone had tested it.

[Q] Should I root and/or lock my bootloader

I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
juniper1982 said:
I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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jd1639 said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
juniper1982 said:
I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
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The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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jd1639 said:
The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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ah right. I was thinking that if someone physically got their hands on my they could just unlock and have access to it. but of course unlock wipes it!
Ok. thanks. I get it now.

Can I root the Moto G3 with an app like KingRoot?

Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Could you read my post first?
squid2 said:
Your bootloader must be unlocked to use this recovery.
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unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
shawly said:
Could you read my post first?
unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
I used to root in one click in just one method on my previous phone xperia sp but i dont know this phone have any toll which will work or not?
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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zephiK said:
Just unlock the bootloader and root. You're making it too difficult for yourself, the whole point of the bootloader being locked is to prevent changes being made to the system.
Its like saying, you're going to break your windows to get into your house when you can just unlock the door.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash supersu for root.
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Also this.
Ragarianok said:
Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, I also don't plan on using custom roms, I just want the root features so I can undervolt like I said and IF I could root it permanently without unlocking the bootloader, why not?
I'm not worried, it would just be convenient to have root without losing the warranty, that's it.
As far as I know you may be able to do it search kingroot in Google then download the apk and install it then open in and follow the instructions
shawly said:
Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, ...
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Then leave the device stock ...
If you want the best of both worlds (root & warranty), then go buy a Nexus. Motorola drew a line in the sand as to what they will support, while still empowering owners with the option to unlock the bootloader.
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Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Not really. While I've unlocked my previous phones, my new g3 I'm leaving locked for the first year, while the warranty lasts. But this site still has a few helpful stuff.
Ragarianok said:
...You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever...if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device...
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He just wants the warranty, but he doesn't care about rooting it because there's not really anything wrong with rooting if you know what you're doing and how to fix it.
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And to answer the question; you need to unlock the bootloader to root
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Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
Jdwright0819 said:
Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
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Towelroot is exploiting a bug in the Linux Kernel in order to root a device. This bug was already fixed in June 2014.
On all Kernels with a later build date Towelroot will most likely not work.
For sure it will not work on the Moto G3 with a kernel build date more than one year after this bug was fixed.
Thanks!
shawly said:
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
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It's probably been answered already but those exploits are security flaws with the SE Linux system and so with each release of android these have been patched, by 5.1 these security holes have been fixed and now by locking the bootloader
It's like just locking down and modifications to the system partition so unfortunately you can't root without unlocking, unless you have android versions lower down
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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I have unlocked bootloader and i m on stock recovery amd on stock rom without rooted. Can i install twrp without pc
Are you root yet
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
Ankur1 said:
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
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What version of TWRP did you use coz I know there were some bugs on the moto range with TWRP 2.X.
I would completely wipe device using stock recovery, including dalvic/cache/data everything just to be on the safe side, then download the TWRP zip to your computer and flash it on using ADB.
Boot up normally and move the superSU zip from the link to your phones internal storage. Then reboot to TWRP, select install and pick the zip file.
superSU.zip:
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/6/5/5/4/0/1/BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651.zip?key=u0OeGV4-4s02KJXqrXJ-gg&ts=1466705675
If you get stuck this might help:
https://motog3.com/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-root-moto-g3/
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Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Perhaps you can offer wisdom on this? I rooted my Moto G 3rd Gen once, wrecked something and had to go back to factory, then try to reroot again. Problem. No matter what I do in setting the device back to factory, the bootloader stays unlocked and reads the system software as "modified" which then seems to bork installing SuperSU. I install SuperSU via twrp and it goes fine, no errors, but when I reboot the system is lost in a loop of the "bootloader unlocked" screen.
So I cannot RE-lock the bootloader (ala setting the phone back to true factory) and after I flash SuperSU the phone refuses to successfully bootup.
Any aid? Ideas?
I had failed to backup my phone the first time with twrp and so to set to factory I downloaded the stock retail xml.zip for my phone and reflashed the entire thing via fastboot. Reinstall twrp, and try to root and the endless boot loop begins.
So I came to this thread to look into the possibility rooting my phone via another means that MIGHT work.

Possible to relock bootloader after root?

Hi guys,
It might sound dumb but I was wondering if it was possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root.
In fact, I did not want to modify my Honor 8 that much too soon but I enjoy playing some games on my phone using a pad, I did not want to spend alot so I just went with a pad I already have, the DualShock 4. It works well except the button mapping in native Android games, that's why I have to root to use Sixaxis app to solve the issue.
So I may have to root my device soon but I don't plan any other modification to the system atm and I particularly hate the warning message when you boot (gosh, I hated it on my Moto G but it was easy to replace).
That leads me to the thread title: Is it possible to root and then get rid of the unlocking message (relock the bootloader or anything else would be okayish)?
I just want to get root access on the phone for my gamepad issue and eventually setup some typical things such as a real adblocking solution (DNS66 is not bad but hosts file is still the way to go imo) and maybe Xposed.
Is there a way to reduce the modification on the phone? (Thus the idea of relocking it, I was thinking that maybe, once relocked it won't show the message. But maybe relocking just wipe the phone again? (as unlocking it does))
Thank you guys
thats possible to relock bootloader .but if u used flash custom recovery and SuperSu.zip to root your phone , after rooted device , please reflash stock recovery vi fastboot and relock your bootloader
I don't think it's possible to relock the bootloader and keep your device rooted.
DarkGuyver said:
I don't think it's possible to relock the bootloader and keep your device rooted.
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It was possible with the Nexus 5 and a few other phones to root it and then relock it. Obviously the only way to know if that's the case on this phone is to try it. But you just have to make sure that the stock recovery is there instead of twrp before relocking.
One brave soul needs to try it though. [emoji4]
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Well, I'll wait until someone who has a rooted device give it a try.
That screen would really annoy me... I always thought it was dumb to put that kind of screen... Damn, no need to remind us that it is unlocked if WE DID IT OURSELVES.

Question Re-lock bootloader after root?

Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
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Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Connorsdad said:
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
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Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device.
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Huh, learn something new every day I guess...
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
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Awesome, thanks a lot for your reply, much appreciated.
never ever* lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
* exception
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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And you can't flash a factory image to fix a phone on your own when it's soft bricked. It might have to go to a shop for repairs.
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
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AFAIK, relocking the bootloader requires wiping the device -- much like unlocking does -- and if you're unwilling to set everything (including anything on your /sdcard internal storage, not to mention all apps and their settings & system settings) back up from scratch (as any good complete backups require root access), this might not be what you wish to do.
And, if you had managed to successfully relock the bootloader, you could simply run the in-system update (OTA) that would update without wiping -- or even manually applying OTA from the recovery.
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it) -- even if one was to a paranoid degree of security; which is the only major reason to (I can point you to the discussions that had taken place on it here, if you wish). If you don't want to run into any issues, you could simply run the stock ROM without root and be hardly impacted by it; with the added benefit of having the option to advanced recovery options and/or rooting options open to you in the future if need be...
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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*it just occurs to me you meant to never lock bootloader because it limits options; not the risk of hard-bricking the device -- in which I wrote the following with that assumption. I'll leave the following comment as it is still sound advice, but I apologize in advanced that it doesn't quite relate to what you meant...
I mean, I feel doing Google's official Android Flash Tool is a safe enough method; it wouldn't do well if Google's own tool bricked their devices using their tool...at the very least the tool ensures that the stock factory firmware flashed matches the bootloader version and automates the fastboot commands so when re-locking the bootloader, it has the least potential to brick the device...
Exactly. there is no official flash tool from google, that's why I personally won't recommend to keep bootloader locked. If it's bricked with no working recovery mode, not even repair shop can fix it. all you can do is RMA to google get new device. no edl mode or anything else will help, fastboot is the official flashing method.
If you're referring to the "Android Flash Tool" that's no flash tool at all. I haven't tested it, but to me it looks like a WebUSB browser plugin. Reading the requirements it works with adb commands, usb-debugging and fully booted android is required. Therefore cannot unbrick devices.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
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Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
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I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
Trippyy Doee said:
I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
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Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
iRhyiku said:
Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
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That's of course another aspect. Good point. If you rely on SafetyNet or it's successor Play integrity, do not unlock bootloader. AFAIR the latter one can't be cheated.
simplepinoi177 said:
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it)
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There are some benefits like some banking apps, streaming apps and games beginning to work. So it really depends on what is important for the user. I don't like flashing random mods to make apps work on rooted/ bootloader unlocked devices, primarily banking apps.

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