I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
juniper1982 said:
I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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jd1639 said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
juniper1982 said:
I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
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The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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jd1639 said:
The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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ah right. I was thinking that if someone physically got their hands on my they could just unlock and have access to it. but of course unlock wipes it!
Ok. thanks. I get it now.
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I got a unlocked and rooted Nexus S. If for sercurity reasons i'll do a re-lock. Suppose i get my phone lost or stolen, the thief/person wont be able to flash any rom on that, since its locked. But if him do a re-unlock, i would get my data erased? Including my google account and security apps like Lookout, Prey, etc?
Thank you!
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I got a unlocked and rooted Nexus S. If for sercurity reasons i'll do a re-lock. Suppose i get my phone lost or stolen, the thief/person wont be able to flash any rom on that, since its locked. But if him do a re-unlock, i would get my data erased? Including my google account and security apps like Lookout, Prey, etc?
Thank you!
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Yes - unlocking again will wipe again.
krohnjw said:
Yes - unlocking again will wipe again.
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Wow... so we have no advantage on re-locking bootloader, isnt is? When it is locked, people will be able to flash over it but i think if someone have know-how to flash, probally they should know how to unlock too! And unlock seems easier than flash! Agree?
if you want to keep your data safer, re-locking bootloader will be better.
if you did not, someone can get your phone and refresh a rom, will get anything in your sd-card.
Hey all. My early upgrade is this weekend so I'm going to but a gs3 but I must be able to root and unlock boot loader.
Was looking at the unlock app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mmmeff.ez.unlock
And see that the recent reviews saying they are having issues unlocking boot loader since update from Verizon.
Is the app broken now And or did they patch the phone so u cant unlock the boot loader?
I don't amt to buy this phone then end up not being able to unlock the bootloader (I can't stand anything other than aosp)
Lmk. Also how would I go about unlocking the boot loader without using that app or is that the only way to do so?
This is posted all over this forum. However, all you need to do is search for version 1.2 and it will unlock the bootloader, after you root, of course.
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the guide posted at the top of the dev forum should be your new best friend
HHF2 said:
This is posted all over this forum. However, all you need to do is search for version 1.2 and it will unlock the bootloader, after you root, of course.
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Here is my copy http://db.tt/TtOVCI1W . Just make sure you root first .
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Valkyrie743 said:
Hey all. My early upgrade is this weekend so I'm going to but a gs3 but I must be able to root and unlock boot loader.
Was looking at the unlock app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mmmeff.ez.unlock
And see that the recent reviews saying they are having issues unlocking boot loader since update from Verizon.
Is the app broken now And or did they patch the phone so u cant unlock the boot loader?
I don't amt to buy this phone then end up not being able to unlock the bootloader (I can't stand anything other than aosp)
Lmk. Also how would I go about unlocking the boot loader without using that app or is that the only way to do so?
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The developer recommends version 1.2 and you can get that from here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
There is a way to unlock the bootloader manually, but that takes a bit more effort and some terminal coding. I would definitely recommend just downloading EZ-Unlock v1.2 and using that. It's just a push of a button! That's what I did.
At the risk of being reprimanded.....
My phone is rooted and I have unlocked the boot-loader with One click "ez bootloader unlock." I have flashed numerous ROM's and continue to flash various ROM's... After flashing each new ROM and getting through the initial setup, I download ClockWorkMod from the play store, if not already part of the ROM, and then "One click ez bootloader unlock." I then run the "One click ez bootloader unlock" and then the ClockWorkMod for my model phone. I do this each time I flash a new ROM.
My question is whether this is unnecessary or not? I see that the later versions of "One click ez bootloader unlock" have a re-lock option, but I am unclear as whether or not it is unnecessary to unlock the boot-loader each and every time a person flashes a new ROM? Or under what circumstances would a person need to unlock their boot-loader after successfully unlocking it the first time?
It seems to me that once the boot-loader is successfully unlocked that a person would not have to unlock it again unless they ODIN back to Stock OEM, but I have not been able to google or search these forums successfully to find an answer, and for that I apologize, because I'm sure it's here somewhere, and some "Senior Member" will be quick to jump at the opportunity to point that out to me.... After a healthy dose of liquid courage, I am reluctantly asking the question here.... And if someone is so kinda as to answer my question, who knows, maybe it will help some other person who has the same question, but is afraid to ask, because of the harshness and lack of patience of some "Senior Members?"
A sincere thank you in advance to anyone who might answer my question. :fingers-crossed:
The only time you need to re-unlock the bootloader is if you Odin back to stock.
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Does unlock bootloder or root or installing custom recovery make me lose cm ota updates???
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No they don't. Cm can reinstall its recovery and you'll just lose root when you OTA.
if you can i want to root my opo without unlocking bootloadre and i'm on 30o update and nothing seem to work , can you tell me what to do?
m.omdaa said:
if you can i want to root my opo without unlocking bootloadre and i'm on 30o update and nothing seem to work , can you tell me what to do?
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
But on XNPH30O it is not achievable (unless something else was changed). I recommend just unlocking your bootloader, it does no harm unlocking it and having your bootloader unlocked. I've used this analogy in other threads and I'll say it again,
On a OPO (or Nexus Device or HTC), we have a way of unlocking our bootloaders without the need of a exploit to gain root access (e.g. Samsung, LG, etc). Think of it this way, since we have a OPO... you're pretty much given a key (fastboot oem unlock) to unlock the doors to your house. Don't make it difficult on yourself and break into your house through your windows when you can just unlock the door with the key you have.
Just unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash SuperSU.
You can flash OTA updates through a custom recovery of your choice.
Thanks I just rooted my opo ....thanks again
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I heard somewhere that if you run ART runtime, you won't get the OTA's. Any truth to this?
Dan37tz said:
I heard somewhere that if you run ART runtime, you won't get the OTA's. Any truth to this?
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Not to my knowledge. And even if it is, you can just switch it back to dalvik. Only takes 1 minute to switch between run times.
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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xmguy said:
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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Sorry bro, when you wish to unlock the boot loader, you send your device id to Motorola, so even if you relock the bootloader, they'll still have it in their records....
To get permanent root, the only current method is through unlocking the bootloader to be allowed to flash root.
Cheers
I used to worry about warranty too.
Now I just don't care anymore, and I've never regretted unlocking, on some 25+ test devices now.
If the device was returned to a store, I don't think they'll check Moto's database.
If I was worried about a bootup warning, and I didn't feel there were any moral issues (device is broken already anyway), I would just brick the phone. They can recover from that at the service centre anyway.
I DID return a phone to a store once which would not boot at all. They FREAKED out because they said they needed to boot it to see a number. Maybe they were just looking for tamper evidence, I don't know.
Anyway, that's 40 minutes of my life (plus the drive) I'll never get back, because they could not follow the normal return procedures.
And in the end they had to accept the return of course. You'd think they must have had SOME returns of completely dead phones before...
Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
obsanity said:
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
obsanity said:
So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.