Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
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Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Connorsdad said:
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
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Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device.
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Huh, learn something new every day I guess...
Lughnasadh said:
Not unless you want to brick your device. You need to be completely stock before relocking your bootloader (unless using avbroot, but you should have a deep understanding about how it works beforehand).
Pixel Flasher will work fine for updating.
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Awesome, thanks a lot for your reply, much appreciated.
never ever* lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
* exception
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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And you can't flash a factory image to fix a phone on your own when it's soft bricked. It might have to go to a shop for repairs.
Connorsdad said:
Hi folks,
I've managed to stumble my way through using pixel flasher to update my P7Pro to the latest fw with root. Only need root so I can record calls, should I lock the bootloader now I'm done?
Also how do I update in future please without having to wipe, use pixel flasher and patch as I've just done?
I like to think I'm quite tech savvy but the guides for the P7Pro have gone over my head :/
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AFAIK, relocking the bootloader requires wiping the device -- much like unlocking does -- and if you're unwilling to set everything (including anything on your /sdcard internal storage, not to mention all apps and their settings & system settings) back up from scratch (as any good complete backups require root access), this might not be what you wish to do.
And, if you had managed to successfully relock the bootloader, you could simply run the in-system update (OTA) that would update without wiping -- or even manually applying OTA from the recovery.
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it) -- even if one was to a paranoid degree of security; which is the only major reason to (I can point you to the discussions that had taken place on it here, if you wish). If you don't want to run into any issues, you could simply run the stock ROM without root and be hardly impacted by it; with the added benefit of having the option to advanced recovery options and/or rooting options open to you in the future if need be...
alecxs said:
never ever lock bootloader on google devices. fastboot only works on unlocked bootloader and there is no alternative to fastboot.
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*it just occurs to me you meant to never lock bootloader because it limits options; not the risk of hard-bricking the device -- in which I wrote the following with that assumption. I'll leave the following comment as it is still sound advice, but I apologize in advanced that it doesn't quite relate to what you meant...
I mean, I feel doing Google's official Android Flash Tool is a safe enough method; it wouldn't do well if Google's own tool bricked their devices using their tool...at the very least the tool ensures that the stock factory firmware flashed matches the bootloader version and automates the fastboot commands so when re-locking the bootloader, it has the least potential to brick the device...
Exactly. there is no official flash tool from google, that's why I personally won't recommend to keep bootloader locked. If it's bricked with no working recovery mode, not even repair shop can fix it. all you can do is RMA to google get new device. no edl mode or anything else will help, fastboot is the official flashing method.
If you're referring to the "Android Flash Tool" that's no flash tool at all. I haven't tested it, but to me it looks like a WebUSB browser plugin. Reading the requirements it works with adb commands, usb-debugging and fully booted android is required. Therefore cannot unbrick devices.
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
iRhyiku said:
Doesn't unlocking the bootloader break saftynet so then you have to root to use gpay?
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I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
Trippyy Doee said:
I'll just chime in here because I have recently unlocked my bootloader but I haven't been able to root it yet and I haven't had any issues with safety net.
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Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
iRhyiku said:
Interesting, I thought unlocking would break it. I'll have to unlock then for the extra safty!
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That's of course another aspect. Good point. If you rely on SafetyNet or it's successor Play integrity, do not unlock bootloader. AFAIR the latter one can't be cheated.
simplepinoi177 said:
But there are hardly any benefits in re-locking the bootloader (after unlocking it)
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There are some benefits like some banking apps, streaming apps and games beginning to work. So it really depends on what is important for the user. I don't like flashing random mods to make apps work on rooted/ bootloader unlocked devices, primarily banking apps.
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Hi guys i want to share with you this methode to unlock bootloader on Oreo for Nokia 3 go to this thread and requests the files from @bigrammy
This is the thread link : https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-t3708129/post76293046?nocache=1#post76293046
Don't forget to hit thank's to him and me 12 thanks is not enough ??
This methode work with So Flashtool ?
I'm going to make SPflashTool working. I have some issue
Riadh300 said:
Hi guys i want to share with you this methode to unlock bootloader on Oreo for Nokia 3 go to this thread and requests the files from @bigrammy
This is the thread link : https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-t3708129/post76293046?nocache=1#post76293046
Don't forget to hit thank's to him and me 12 thanks is not enough ?
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Thanks for your enthusiasm but my method does not Unlock the bootloader so you should change your thread title.
As I told you I will open a thread when the method is fully tested by a few advanced user's who are testing it now and you will be given full credit for all your help.
I do not want to risk anyone bricking their phones due to rushing. Many none advanced users bricked their sony c4 phones by Not following my instructions so I need this to be 100% clear and fully tested I hope you understand.
I understand you @bigrammy by flashing twrp bootloader will automatically unlocked !
Riadh300 said:
I understand you @bigrammy by flashing twrp bootloader will automatically unlocked !
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If the bootloader was unlocked fully you would be able to use fastboot to flash the device but we cannot so the bootloader is still locked to all intense purposes.
The secure boot chain does appear to be broken so we can use SPFlashTool to flash and boot our TWRP recovery but the secure boot chain may still be working if you have never unlocked the bootloader before like on Android 7.x. This means TWRP may Not boot up for everyone. Like I said it needs to be fully tested.
bigrammy said:
If the bootloader was unlocked fully you would be able to use fastboot to flash the device but we cannot so the bootloader is still locked to all intense purposes.
The secure boot chain does appear to be broken so we can use SPFlashTool to flash and boot our TWRP recovery but the secure boot chain may still be working if you have never unlocked the bootloader before like on Android 7.x. This means TWRP may Not boot up for everyone. Like I said it needs to be fully tested.
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Thanks for this informations ! ?
Riadh300 said:
I understand you @bigrammy by flashing twrp bootloader will automatically unlocked !
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Actually, spflashtool bypasses the bootloader in this instance, so the bootloader is untouched and you still flash twrp
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bigrammy said:
I do not want to risk anyone bricking their phones due to rushing. Many none advanced users bricked their sony c4 phones by Not following my instructions so I need this to be 100% clear and fully tested I hope you understand.
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Not to be pessimistic, but you do realise that even with all your precautions,people will still not read properly and will still brick their phones, no matter how many precautions you take. Even if you had an app that requires you to click one button to do everything,there are still people who will do it wrong. That said I think I know of one or 2 people in this Nokia 3 forum who were able to recover their phones using spflashtool AFTER the phone couldn't even be detected by their pc, even OST flashing was not possible .
Another thing is, all the Nokia 3 is last year's phone, I wonder how many experienced users will be buying the phone now, and experienced people are probably not the best way to get something 100% tested, because they know the right steps to take.
I think you should make your method public after you hear from SkaboXD
redweaver said:
Another thing is, all the Nokia 3 is last year's phone, I wonder how many experienced users will be buying the phone now, and experienced people are probably not the best way to get something 100% tested, because they know the right steps to take.
I think you should make your method public after you hear from SkaboXD
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Sorry I replied to your PM before seeing this.
True there is no accounting for people but I don't want to get bogged down by noob's. If you and maybe SkaboXD would like to open a thread and manage it using the method then that would be fine by me as long as credit is give to Riadh300 the original tester and who informed me SPFlashTool still worked and myself of course.
Please read my PM about the bootloader condition as I recommend only previously unlocked devices try this for now until tested by Advanced user able to recover the device should anything go wrong (EFuse Blown).
bigrammy said:
Sorry I replied to your PM before seeing this.
True there is no accounting for people but I don't want to get bogged down by noob's. If you and maybe SkaboXD would like to open a thread and manage it using the method then that would be fine by me as long as credit is give to Riadh300 the original tester and who informed me SPFlashTool still worked and myself of course.
Please read my PM about the bootloader condition as I recommend only previously unlocked devices try this for now until tested by Advanced user able to recover the device should anything go wrong (EFuse Blown).
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Alright I understand your point now. One thing I wonder though is: would someone on nougat who has never unlocked bootloader be able to flash ost?
Just checked my phone, oem unlocking was set to off so you're right, your method doesn't actually affect the bootloader.
I actually don't mind posting your method and giving you guys the credit, I just thought that you would want to be the one to do so.
Anyway I'll wait to hear @SkaboXD thoughts before I decide on whether to put up the post
redweaver said:
Alright I understand your point now. One thing I wonder though is: would someone on nougat who has never unlocked bootloader be able to flash ost?
Just checked my phone, oem unlocking was set to off so you're right, your method doesn't actually affect the bootloader.
I actually don't mind posting your method and giving you guys the credit, I just thought that you would want to be the one to do so.
Anyway I'll wait to hear @SkaboXD thoughts before I decide on whether to put up the post
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Before on 7.0 I flashed a TWRP I was working on via SPFlashTool bootloader locked and ended up in a never ending recovery bootloop which none advanced users may find difficult to get out of now this may of been because I screwed up the TWRP or more likely because the bootloader was Locked.
I did not try any other TWRP's until I was bootloader Unlocked and I have not had the recovery bootloop since.
Not sure about OST as SPFlashTool is by far the best tool for MediaTek devices and recovery of said devices remember the SoC manufacturer knows best and I only ever see problems when the OEM's try to move away from it like Sony did.
Happy for you to take the lead I am too busy in other threads to worry about it
bigrammy said:
Before on 7.0 I flashed a TWRP I was working on via SPFlashTool bootloader locked and ended up in a never ending recovery bootloop which none advanced users may find difficult to get out of now this may of been because I screwed up the TWRP or more likely because the bootloader was Locked.
I did not try any other TWRP's until I was bootloader Unlocked and I have not had the recovery bootloop since.
Not sure about OST as SPFlashTool is by far the best tool for MediaTek devices and recovery of said devices remember the SoC manufacturer knows best and I only ever see problems when the OEM's try to move away from it like Sony did.
Happy for you to take the lead I am too busy in other threads to worry about it
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So how did you get your phone back anyway?
redweaver said:
Alright I understand your point now. One thing I wonder though is: would someone on nougat who has never unlocked bootloader be able to flash ost?
Just checked my phone, oem unlocking was set to off so you're right, your method doesn't actually affect the bootloader.
I actually don't mind posting your method and giving you guys the credit, I just thought that you would want to be the one to do so.
Anyway I'll wait to hear @SkaboXD thoughts before I decide on whether to put up the post
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I will lock bootloader and try this method of rooting. I think that is this the best method because it doesn't affect bootloader so you can have OTA updates. Just what is the root manager, SuperSU or Magisk?
I think that we could make a thread when this mehod is tested on both Nougat and Oreo with locked bootloader. As far as i read, Oreo is tested so only Nougat remains to test.
redweaver said:
So how did you get your phone back anyway?
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:laugh: Sorry mate this is what I mean. I simply don't have the time to sit answering every single question as there is no short answers
I hope you understand.
SkaboXD said:
I will lock bootloader and try this method of rooting. I think that is this the best method because it doesn't affect bootloader so you can have OTA updates. Just what is the root manager, SuperSU or Magisk?
I think that we could make a thread when this mehod is tested on both Nougat and Oreo with locked bootloader. As far as i read, Oreo is tested so only Nougat remains to test.
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OK, one thing though, before flashing the recovery you might want to do a backup of the stock recovery if you don't already have one. That's what I did, so after I got root, flashed back my stock recovery. Magisk is the root manager ,
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bigrammy said:
:laugh: Sorry mate this is what I mean. I simply don't have the time to sit answering every single question as there is no short answers
I hope you understand.
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oh you mean you went through hoops to get your phone back? I thought you would say you got a stock recovery somewhere and flashed using spflashtool or used the ost method. I didn't actually expect you to outline the steps you used. BTW, first time I flashed twrp AFTER unlocking bootloader, I got stuck in a recovery bootloop too. I had to flash my phone with OST then retry the process again.
One other thing, I think OST is actually a propriety software that is supposed to work for lots of phones, at least I know that users of other non mediatek Nokia phones also use it to recover their phones (with the corresponding stock images of course)
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I will lock bootloader and try this method of rooting. I think that is this the best method because it doesn't affect bootloader so you can have OTA updates. Just what is the root manager, SuperSU or Magisk?
I think that we could make a thread when this mehod is tested on both Nougat and Oreo with locked bootloader. As far as i read, Oreo is tested so only Nougat remains to test.
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Magisk hide allows you get OTA's see the Magisk thread and yes it will work on any android version.
@redweaver
I am glad you got out of the loop but your clearly a more advanced user hence why I ask you to test. :good:
The OST is very convoluted for use on MediaTek devices and is very unnecessary it also requires unnecessary FIH software to be installed on the phone to work properly.
They likely choose this method to work across different SoC's but it's not what MediaTek use SPFlashTool is MediaTeks own software.
EDIT: Sorry lost internet for a while then.
I continue: Good news is I do not think they will be able to remove SPFlashTool use as it's binary on device which lives on a none volatile area ram chip or radio chip and is loaded at the factory so I doubt it can be updated via a OTA. :fingers-crossed:
Sony actually replaced this and this is the only device I have been unable to recover and even Sony were replacing the boards of bricked devices but if they had left the Mediatek binary in there it would not of been a issue as SPFlashTool would of been able to recover them. :good:
guys, old thread, i know, different device, i know, but ive been in the dark and this is what most resembles my issue.
any hints would be appreciated, read all 2 pages, can you believe it? im a very average xda enthusiast.
worries out of the way, my sincere thanks beforehand follow.
issue
carrier doesnt get in the way
oem doesnt get in the way
oem unlock toggle, check, adb debugging, you and i know the drill, no driver/cable issues
cannot for the life of me unlock bootloader, this one would take the newer command, however i tried them all ive come accross to no avail
output encourages me to unlock first, howwever not a clue is given as to how to accomplish it. this isnt the flash a file type of unlocking, either, at least not oem provided. going nuts.
go ahead and feel free to issue "advanced" directions (meaning, like your voicemail, instead of "for voicemail configurations press 8" and just "configurations 8"
spreatrum, not mtk
x120c
came with oreo go, treble enabled per getprop
i dont know what else, please
I have not yet unlocked my bootloader or Rooted my device. Although I plan on rooting my device. I've seen a thread about *Remember to unlock your bootloader*
Is it a good idea to do my oem unlock BEFORE updating to P?
ALSO:
if I want to try a custom 8.1 rom, can I still do this AFTER upgrading my system to 9.0?
Thanks
With unlocked bootloader you can do pretty anything. I think yes, you can downgrade, but you have to wipe as usual.
Also remember that unlocking bootloader involves total wipe.
Mal_toofy said:
I have not yet unlocked my bootloader or Rooted my device. Although I plan on rooting my device. I've seen a thread about *Remember to unlock your bootloader*
Is it a good idea to do my oem unlock BEFORE updating to P?
ALSO:
if I want to try a custom 8.1 rom, can I still do this AFTER upgrading my system to 9.0?
Thanks
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Unlock it as soon as possible, you can never know if Google decides to push a serverside patch to fix it or etc.
Thanks for that. Been a while since I played with Android
TENN3R said:
With unlocked bootloader you can do pretty anything. I think yes, you can downgrade, but you have to wipe as usual.
Also remember that unlocking bootloader involves total wipe.
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Mal_toofy said:
I have not yet unlocked my bootloader or Rooted my device. Although I plan on rooting my device. I've seen a thread about *Remember to unlock your bootloader*
Is it a good idea to do my oem unlock BEFORE updating to P?
ALSO:
if I want to try a custom 8.1 rom, can I still do this AFTER upgrading my system to 9.0?
Thanks
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You DO NOT have to do a total wipe.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-pixel-xl-android-8-1oreo-unlock-t3715279
(it's for the XL - same except for different dloads)
You have 2 slots, and you'll be flashing only one at a time, so the other one will remain the same. TWRP does ask if you want to flash boot.img to both slots when you do so you should just choose the one unless the new boot.img file is the same as the old (haven't checked into it but I wouldn't bet they're the same.) Also, the data and settings in /sdcard/android will change over time so when/if you go to the old android on the other slot, some of the settings are whacked - that's been my experience the couple of times I've done it. I don't know if 9 does anything different in /sdcard/android (probably not) but that could create some problems.
I dirty flashed 9 over 8.1 in one of my slots - I could switch to the other to see what's what? So could you and report back?
Haven't done anything yet.. been going back and forth with Assurant/ project fi for a damn replacement since I haven't been able to make calls or use my headphone jack.. and not sure if I should bother unlocking right now..
I was hoping the 9.0 update might fix my issues. But, from what I've read, it's a hardware problem..
Mal_toofy said:
Haven't done anything yet.. been going back and forth with Assurant/ project fi for a damn replacement since I haven't been able to make calls or use my headphone jack.. and not sure if I should bother unlocking right now..
I was hoping the 9.0 update might fix my issues. But, from what I've read, it's a hardware problem..
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Someone else suggested it was a permissions issue:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...ound-issue-t3664785/post77386591#post77386591
I have been root and flash kernel my pixel 3 before, but I want use google pay, so I flash factory img to my pixel 3.
But i use google pay it is still doesn't working. Is cause i root before?
Have you re-locked the bootloader? An unlocked bootloader will cause Google Pay to not work on stock firmware.
JujuYuki said:
Have you re-locked the bootloader? An unlocked bootloader will cause Google Pay to not work on stock firmware.
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Is it a good practice to relock the bootloader after root? I though it will reenable signature checks and brick the phone?
Pakabidu said:
Is it a good practice to relock the bootloader after root? I though it will reenable signature checks and brick the phone?
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If you flashed the factory image you're stock and not rooted, right? But yes you shouldn't lock the bootloader again after modifications. You can relock it after flashing factory image from google though if you fon't flash anything else and don't modify it. That's also the only way to get google pay to work without root and Magisk hide.
Also, as long as you don't untick "enable oem unlocking" in developper settings, you can still unlock if it bricks, as long as you have fastboot access. So if you happened to brick by relocking, just unlocking again (and flashing if needed) would solve it anyway.
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If you flashed the factory image you're stock and not rooted, right? But yes you shouldn't lock the bootloader again after modifications. You can relock it after flashing factory image from google though if you fon't flash anything else and don't modify it. That's also the only way to get google pay to work without root and Magisk hide.
Also, as long as you don't untick "enable oem unlocking" in developper settings, you can still unlock if it bricks, as long as you have fastboot access. So if you happened to brick by relocking, just unlocking again (and flashing if needed) would solve it anyway.
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Thanks man, I'm thinking i have to re lock my phone now, or just wait new magisk can hide google pay.
Awesome how google sells a phone that is unlockable and easily rootable, but then blocks a service to the device. Luckily, where I am google pay is not an option, but I sympathize with you all.
Edemilorhea said:
I have been root and flash kernel my pixel 3 before, but I want use google pay, so I flash factory img to my pixel 3.
But i use google pay it is still doesn't working. Is cause i root before?
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There is a ton of information on the Magisk page about running Google Pay on an unlocked/rooted device. I use it on both a Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL. Locking your bootloader is not necessary right now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950
this works.
Followed instructions and edited db and rebooted. Works great in Android 10 on Pixel 3. Thanks for this. I was wondering why wouldn't work on my new phone. So dumb to lock this down.
So you got the Edge S and want GApps? Basically you unlock your bootloader, root with Magisk, then install MagiskGApps.
DISCLAIMER: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS IN THIS GUIDE MAY RESULT IN DAMAGE/BRICKING YOUR PHONE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Unlock the bootloader: that should be doable with their global bootloader unlock website here.
2. Download Lenovo Motoroa Smart Assistant (Rescue and Smart Assistant), and follow its instructions to "rescue" your device. It will lead you to boot into bootloader mode and download the firmware. Find the firmware file via the LMSA's downloads (should have a "show folder" button). You'll need the boot.img file for Magisk.
3. Download Magisk, then follow its instructions. You'll have to copy the boot.img to your device, then use Magisk to patch the boot file, then copy the modified one to your PC.
4. You'll need fastboot. If you don't have it already, you can download the Android SDK platform tools here. Then go into the folder, Shift+Right Click the folder, then "Open Command Prompt" or "Open PowerShell," you should have something close to one of those two. Copy your Magisk modified .img file to that folder, then you'll want to input:
fastboot flash boot [modified .img file]
Once that completes, you should see in large text, "Start" on your phone next to the power button. Press the power button, and it should boot, and you should have root now.
5. Download MagiskGApps to your phone, open Magisk on your phone, click the button that looks like a puzzle piece at the bottom of the screen, "Modules." Click "Install from storage," locate the MagiskGApps file, and install it. After that it will ask you to restart your phone, do that, then you'll just have to be patient as it takes time once its restarted to load everything. You also may need to update some or all of the apps, then you should be able to use the notification to finish setting up the phone with Google Setup.
Thanks to Motorola for making it easy to unlock their bootloaders
Thanks to the whole Magisk team for making an easy, awesome root (and more!)
Thanks to Wacko1805 (and team?) for making MagiskGApps. This is really awesome.
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
kimker said:
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
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Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
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yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
kimker said:
yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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That's not good. Hopefully they can restore it back somehow. With this guide to unlock and flash gapps why would you need to flash G100 though? This seems to be itright now without one of rom developer's releases to get root & apps. For me this is all i would look for. Titanium backup on it and restore.. done until PE rom comes out.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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thank you. They did not ask for help. It seems that the lock BL is a self-verification switch, and then performs a verification system integrity.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
kischde said:
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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I had the same issue, you need to factory reset WITH your sim card in the phone, this will let you open the OEM unlock slide thing in the dev mode.
Then once its done you can fastboot and unlock the bootloader.
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
kischde said:
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
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On my OG Pixel XL, I had to wait 7 days for the slider to become normal. By the time I got around to do it on the Edge S it was about the same time.... could be related
Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Make sure your on the latest OTA, Lenovo made a mistake on previous versions with the OEM Unlocking function not being enabled. They fixed it in latest ota.
RSA tool said the file I uploaded yesterday is the latest one available (and it's exactly the same as the installed version).
The device was released just a few days ago in Europe. Perhaps they fixed the unlock switch in other regions and still need to fix it in Europe..
Will wait until weekend if they come up with a solution. If not I'm afraid I have to return the device as I need it personally AND professionally, too - I'm field agent, so.... :/
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
kimker said:
The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
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Ouch...
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
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I would assume so, but I don't really know why anyone would want to relock.
I've successfully reverted back to stock rom using the rescue software but couldn't figure out how to relock the bootloader. Could anyone post a tutorial on it?
raiprasant62 said:
I've successfully reverted back to stock rom using the rescue software but couldn't figure out how to relock the bootloader. Could anyone post a tutorial on it?
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Fastboot mode => fastboot flashing lock
Will I get widevine L1 support back if I relock bootloader? And will I be able to unlock it again?
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Will I get widevine L1 support back if I relock bootloader?
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I don't know
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And will I be able to unlock it again?
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yes
@raiprasant62 it is VERY CRITICAL that you have the correct stock ROM variant for your model installed before relocking bootloader or it'll lock and give a corrupt device warning and fail to boot!!!!
The ONLY safe way to relock bootloader is to use Motorola Rescue and Smart Assistant tool and then boot into the ROM and then attempt relocking
Has anyone successfully relocked the phone and checked Widevine L1 status after relock?
I read somewhere here that once unlocked.. this phone can never get L1 back and is stuck on L3 forever. But I can't find where. I wonder if it's speculation or has anyone actually tried it?
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Has anyone successfully relocked the phone and checked Widevine L1 status after relock?
I read somewhere here that once unlocked.. this phone can never get L1 back and is stuck on L3 forever. But I can't find where. I wonder if it's speculation or has anyone actually tried it?
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is there a fully working TWRP build available for this device which can backup /data? if yes then backup your data -> relock the bootloader -> boot into system and see what will happen.
As far as I know, there's no working TWRP currently, but I will keep looking. I haven't seen anyone talk about using it.
I did find this, from here, but I haven't found anyone talk about the pros and cons or if it worked or not. My phone hasn't been unlocked yet, because I'm unsure if I will get L1 back if I ever relock it. If I unlock it, I'll test a few of the ROMS on here out and see what happens.
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I did find this, from here, but
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that's all I could find, too. but it's unclear if it's able to decrypt & backup /data.
I assume it would be possible to bring back L1 since it depends on your verified boot state. it's like the Play Store certification I think.
@JonW434 I have heard users on Telegram saying that yes relocking bootloader that WV L1 does come back on Motorola devices
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@JonW434 I have heard users on Telegram saying that yes relocking bootloader that WV L1 does come back on Motorola devices
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Yeah it seems so.
Like you said in post #5, it seems the most important thing is to make sure to have correct version of stock rom installed for correct model. Outside of that, it just seems there aren't many people relocking in order to confirm it. But it seems like it should work like with any other phones. I've seen other Motorola users (for other models) that it relocks fine. I'm not sure where it came from that this phone can't do that, maybe it was a misunderstanding.
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I'm not sure where it came from that this phone can't do that, maybe it was a misunderstanding.
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some Moto's will never get back the state of "oem_locked" once they were unlocked. maybe that's the reason. but it doesn't effect the verfied boot state.
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some Moto's will never get back the state of "oem_locked" once they were unlocked. maybe that's the reason. but it doesn't effect the verfied boot state.
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Interesting. I've been outside the world of Android stuff for a few years and have been relearning everything, or some new things that have changed.
Is there a way to check the state of these things via an app or rooted file explorer or are this things inaccessible to us, in terms of modifying or viewing them?
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Interesting. I've been outside the world of Android stuff for a few years and have been relearning everything, or some new things that have changed.
Is there a way to check the state of these things via an app or rooted file explorer or are this things inaccessible to us, in terms of modifying or viewing them?
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on your fastboot screen bottom left: oem_locked, flashing_unlocked or flashing_locked
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Has anyone successfully relocked the phone and checked Widevine L1 status after relock?
I read somewhere here that once unlocked.. this phone can never get L1 back and is stuck on L3 forever. But I can't find where. I wonder if it's speculation or has anyone actually tried it?
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I don't know how to check that but after relock I was able to use Google wallet without any hacks. Also unlock again was not a problem. Now I am on stock 13 ROM rooted. That works good for me.