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I currently have a Xperia Z and I am shocked on how much it lags here and there even with a custom ROM on it, not really into the fact it's waterproof.
I just want something that is fast, decent build quality, good enough camera and has no lag when browsing and playing games like sonic dash
and not expensive
Could the Moto G be a great alternative for what I want?
Sonic dash play smoothly?
apps open fast?
Build quality?
Battery life?
technostein said:
Could the Moto G be a great alternative for what I want?
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Use search and You will get answers.
ksuuk said:
Use search and You will get answers.
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I did use search. But until there is a person that wrote about or covered EVERYTHING I wanted to know, then I will understand why you just said that (Y)
I beleive this is the only place where there is a possibility that my question would be answered.
And assuming I didn't search is pretty silly
Although if there is a paragraph or review that answers everything, do share!
Thanks!
Dude, there is:
# What about Battery Life Topic
# And what about Moto G Review Central
# Uhm somehow found more Moto G Gaming Topic
# I got even more muahahaha Moto G Benchmarks
You searched? Common dude, you lie as much as evil would!
Edit: I'm such a nice guy, I don't just troll I even give you the links so you find these well hidden topic
PS; took me 2 minutes. You're just lazy
PS2; And NO, we will not summarize these topics for you!
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I did use search.
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Well, about Your questions, there is no simple answer, as it's a matter of Your needs. Alternative - who knows? Camera - I don't take pictures, so Ok for me. Sonic - don't know hat it is. Apps speed & build quality & battery life - its a matter of experience with other phones, OK for me.
So Moto G is so far the best phone for me. I also own Xperia Z1, which I have used couple times only as I prefer Moto G. And as Moto G doesn't cost much, You can buy it just for test & fun. You won't regret. Trust me.
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Well, about Your questions, there is no simple answer, as it's a matter of Your needs. Alternative - who knows? Camera - I don't take pictures, so Ok for me. Sonic - don't know hat it is. Apps speed & build quality & battery life - its a matter of experience with other phones, OK for me.
So Moto G is so far the best phone for me. I also own Xperia Z1, which I have used couple times only as I prefer Moto G. And as Moto G doesn't cost much, You can buy it just for test & fun. You won't regret. Trust me.
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I made the jump earlier today and I have gotta agree with you. this phone is awesome. Just no KitKat update for me on unlocked UK, heard some complaints with flashing the US version.
The one phablet that can go toe to toe with the Note 3, high end specs, great camera, great building quality and there is one ROM for it and as yet not an easy root method. Bugger all threads.
Why is no one loving this phone?
Rooting can be done via towelroot. No custom recoveries or roms though..
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Agreed, i owned a Note 3, sold it for this and have not looked back. I like it more rooted to, xposed and text droider dpi are great root apps for this phone
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Rooting can be done via towelroot. No custom recoveries or roms though..
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And that's the killer
And also raises the question, why the bloody hell not.
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And that's the killer
And also raises the question, why the bloody hell not.
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I'm wondering the same. My phone will be delivered shortly. But it seems that this will be my first Android phone without CyanogenMod. I can't believe this.I have already asked Ricardo with a pm but no reaction yet. May be somebody knows him better and could ask him to make a recovery and start a CM project for our sweet device? The hardware does not much differ from the G2 isn't it?
The problem is that LG decided to implement a stupidly secure boot loader, without an unlockable boot loader, not much development can happen. Being the flashing addict I am, I'm gonna sell mine and but an Xperia Z Ultra
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The problem is that LG decided to implement a stupidly secure boot loader, without an unlockable boot loader, not much development can happen. Being the flashing addict I am, I'm gonna sell mine and but an Xperia Z Ultra
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I guess the G3 has the same issue? So someone will find a solution soon I hope. Please @shellnut2
Becuase it isn't sold in the US which is where a lot of people in this site are from. I really wanted this device but got the g3 instead.
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Becuase it isn't sold in the US which is where a lot of people in this site are from. I really wanted this device but got the g3 instead.
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I don't understand that business decision. Why would you not sell in one of the biggest cell phone markets?
Not releasing it in America is mostly the problem, without American developers getting their hands on it, no development can really happen. Not a smart move by LG is my opinion.
I have got my hands on one now.. and hopefully not very soon , but soon will be releasing something...
I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
OK Here we go
check out the Android dev section I am uploading a first custom ROM for our D838 Model
enjoyy
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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Welcome back!!! :good: I love this smartphone but the only thing I regret there are updates. LG has forgotten this phone, is stopped alla 10f for several months without correcting the bug. I hope LG has not forgotten this beautiful smartphone..the best!
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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That is so true. I couldn't resist to try the G3 too. But I really regret this choice. the D838 is so smooth and fast in everything. Even the camera is very fast and makes really nice pictures. The camera of the G3 is for my idea not any better and the phone itself is lagging everywhere. I have the 32GB version and the extra RAM doesn't make a difference. Like you said the CPU or the GPU isn't enough to make this device to what it had should been. I'm now on vacation but when I'm back home I will immediately sell the G3 and keep my Pro 2.
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That is so true. I couldn't resist to try the G3 too. But I really regret this choice. the D838 is so smooth and fast in everything. Even the camera is very fast and makes really nice pictures. The camera of the G3 is for my idea not any better and the phone itself is lagging everywhere. I have the 32GB version and the extra RAM doesn't make a difference. Like you said the CPU or the GPU isn't enough to make this device to what it had should been. I'm now on vacation but when I'm back home I will immediately sell the G3 and keep my Pro 2.
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I found it really hard to admit it to myself after the investment. I so wanted to love the device The G3 forum is full of people in denial.
I really can't see why people don't like this phone...it's amazing...
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I sold my 16gb D838 a month ago as I just couldn't resist the temptation of the G3. Yesterday, I put my G3 on ebay and have ordered a 32gb D838 :laugh: For anybody lusting after the G3, don't do it. The screen is beautiful (if you can find 4k content ) but, other than that, the G Pro 2 is a far better device IMO. The G3 is a lagfest with frequent launcher redraws due to bad ram management, (at least it was on my 2g ram version) it appears to have been rushed out with no software optimisation. The 801 chip cannot handle the resolution.
Anyway, can't wait for my new baby to arrive, I consider it to be the best device I have ever had and that is many.
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I've had my LG G Pro 2 32GB for a couple of months now, it's the best phone I've had since my Sony Xperia Z Ultra 16GB. But now it's time to move on to another device so put it up for sale on Ebay at a bargain price. It's a shame LG messed up the D83810F update, looking forward to G Pro 3 if LG bother with it. I will say that I won't be rushing out to by the G3.
I hope a custom recovery will release for this phone soon, after that many Rom will appear!
cannot agree more , I am on the same camp got G3 , sold and took the G pro 2 hahha
Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
This phone is really good, as you said some users has random issues, but if you didn't get those this is the best phone.
But if you already have moto 2014, why you want to change?
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Is it worth it?
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Yes, simple and big yes. It is very worth buying!
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This phone is really good, as you said some users has random issues, but if you didn't get those this is the best phone.
But if you already have moto 2014, why you want to change?
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I have the 1st gen moto X, not 2nd gen. and i have to switch from verizon to tmobile
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I have the 1st gen moto X, not 2nd gen. and i have to switch from verizon to tmobile
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Got it. Yes this is the best phone with CM11 waiting for CM12
I would not consider buying a OPO when i can get a LG G3 for just 50 euros more here in Italy, but that's my 0.02€
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I would not consider buying a OPO when i can get a LG G3 for just 50 euros more here in Italy, but that's my 0.02€
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LG G3 has nothing on this phone in my opinion.
To OP. Get it, you won't regret it.
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Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
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You won't regret it. Best phone I've ever owned. :good:
The only problem I have with it is the looks.. It's a bit ugly, especially against the 2nd gen moto x
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I do not think you would be making a mistake buying the OPO. The possibly only issues you might have are regarding service and a yellow stripe near the bottom but I have read that there are easy work-abouts for that. The features, feel, OS, build quality, performance are all superb.I have had a Samsung S2, S4 and Moto G (2013) and I am thrilled to have this. Also the battery life is superb - now down to 10% with over 46 hours since last charge and screen time of 5h 15m, 45 minutes voice calls and nearly 19 hrs Wifi on.
You should get the OPO, hands down. Most of the issues people have had with the device aren't even relevent anymore, as they have been fixed in software updates months ago. And I'm pretty sure that stuff like the yellow line doesn't even appear in the hardware anymore, and was only apparent in the first couple months. So you can safely ignore those complaints.
If you're comparing the Moto X and the OPO, be aware that the OPO actually has slightly superior specs. But, you know, that's not the best thing about this phone.
The OPO's XDA development scene is, in my opinion, the best thing about this device. Soooo many important developers have adopted the OPO as their next device, like FranciscoFranco and AK. You will see a lot of pleasantly suprised people in the forums, saying things like, "I remember you from the Nexus 4!" and, ”Yay, xxxx is here!”. No other recent device has the same support. Hell, the Moto X forums are a barren wasteland.
If you get an OPO, be prepared to have a lot of fun on the XDA forums. I know I am.
It is worth it. I would buy again.
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Is it worth it? I currently have a Moto X... but i hear there are a lot of problems with these phones. is it true?
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I have Moto X 2014 and I just purchased the Oneplus for one simple reason... Moto X camera is total garbage. I mean it's bad. So I am returning my Moto and I'll try this.
Just announced at CES 2015 that the G Flex 2 is confirmed to be getting Android 6.0 AKA Marshmallow! Here is a link:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-marshmallow-update-coming-to-lg-g4-g3-not-g2-27399720/
So the phone is definitely not dead, surprised that the G3 might not get the update, for those who was debating between these two phones.
Well, low popularity doesn't mean dead. It's barely half a year old anyway. Great news indeed though.
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Well these are great news !
I just got the H959 TWN version. I think I love it more than my G4 H815 except the Camera.
Flex 2 is so much more snappier than G4 and surprising not as hot the G4. The Curve and the RED back cover is nice. I don't really miss the leather back. Now I have 2 devices to play with. Best of the Best LG .......Life's Good!
Ya, I made a post a few days ago about it getting gooey goodness. This phone is a beast. I love it.
Of course this phone is going to get it. It's still new and just came out this year if there was folks thinking the opposite then idk what to say. Now the big question is when do you think this device is planning on getting 6.0? That's the big question, so far I've been running Android M on my nexus 6 for some time and it is great very nice update and I'm guessing it will roll out and be official around October or somewhere around there so I'm curious to know how long from there will it take the flex 2bto get it.
Good news will be when I find this fcking phone on ebay <270$ :'(
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Indeed good news! Some of us that called the phone "dead " we meant the lack of custom roms and in general the lg,s decision of not unlocking bootloader.
Even with m it will be also dead from developers perspective.
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Good news will be when I dind this fcking phone on ebay <270$ :'(
Anyway its good, but lock bootloader deprives custom ROMs.
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+1 for this hah. I'm also trying to get red one but literally no chance to find it anywhere.
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Not feeling too comfortable and confident with the list. G flex? That never got Lollipop. And how easily it was forgotten, I wouldn't be surprised if G Flex 2 is also forgotten.
Kind if crazy how the list is so short. LG needs to unlock their bootloaders really. I don't see how it G4 flagship can keep the publics interest at all. Eeesh.
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Not feeling too comfortable and confident with the list. G flex? That never got Lollipop. And how easily it was forgotten, I wouldn't be surprised if G Flex 2 is also forgotten.
Kind if crazy how the list is so short. LG needs to unlock their bootloaders really. I don't see how it G4 flagship can keep the publics interest at all. Eeesh.
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As I know on LG G4 international you can unlock bootloader, but not for the other versions.
So now I'm with G2 and it doesn't get android 6. I hope I will find G Flex 2 for the good price.
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I just got the H959 TWN version. I think I love it more than my G4 H815 except the Camera.
Flex 2 is so much more snappier than G4 and surprising not as hot the G4. The Curve and the RED back cover is nice. I don't really miss the leather back. Now I have 2 devices to play with. Best of the Best LG .......Life's Good!
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Doesn't G4 have a much better display too?
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Doesn't G4 have a much better display too?
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Yes....QHD 1440p but its drain battery faster. Guess what my 10 year old daughter is using G4 to watch hulu plus LOL
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Sergykm said:
Good news will be when I find this fcking phone on ebay <270$ :'(
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249$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171838677560
I can not get 6.0 if they will unlock bootloader in 5.1.1. There is lot of bad things on stock rom. Small difference between max and min display light, alarm volume and lot of more mistakes!
Hope this is true. Maybe by then we will have an unlocked bootloader figured out
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I can not get 6.0 if they will unlock bootloader in 5.1.1. There is lot of bad things on stock rom. Small difference between max and min display light, alarm volume and lot of more mistakes!
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The high minimum brightness is there for reason. Lower brightness = more grainy display.
I doubt LG will fix that in some update. You can use app called Darker - works great but picture gets more grainy..
Grainy display and no manual camera are my main issues with this phone.
Hope our flex2 will get the updata~
http://en.yibada.com/articles/59349...lex-2-lg-g-flex-lg-g4-lg-g3-lg-g-pad-10-1.htm
some website said we will, but no official information about the update
Doubt it
Lg is unpredictable..... Lol
All i want is my unlocked blootloader, 6.0 will be cool, but all i can pray for is that Lg blesses us with a unlocked bootloader.
It's their fastest phone, but the chance of M is probably 20/80. Chance of an unlocked bootloader, 5/95. I'm curious about a stagefright 2.0 patch.
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The article mentioned that the LG Flex may not get Marshmallow, the LG G Flex2 will get Marshmallow, no doubt about that.
And yes they hopefully fix the Stagefright 2.0 bugs too.
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....the LG G Flex2 will get Marshmallow, no doubt about that.
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Do you have an LG source for your certainty that the Flex 2 will get M? LG has a pretty poor track record -- the first gen Flex never got Lollipop.
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It's their fastest phone, but the chance of M is probably 20/80. Chance of an unlocked bootloader, 5/95. I'm curious about a stagefright 2.0 patch.
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I hope you're wrong about 20/80 for Marshmallow. The phone is only ~6 months old and abandonment by LG would be a pretty miserable business decision. As far as unlocking bootloader, we'll more likely get that unofficially as a result of developer effort (highly unlikely without some LG tech leak) but overall the odds are probably even worse than 5%, especially for those of us with AT&T model.
If there will not be a 6.0 update for this device, i'm gonna buy a freaking iphone and never look back on android ... srsly, i'd be done with it and its fragmentation bs forever. Vendorlock me to apple crap.
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I hope you're wrong about 20/80 for Marshmallow. The phone is only ~6 months old and abandonment by LG would be a pretty miserable business decision.
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Intuitively, logically, and reasonably we should expect Marshmallow and the rumors floating around on the android sites are a good sign, but personally I won't bank on it until LG puts out something official. The original Flex was release only 9 weeks earlier than the Flex 2 the prior year (Oct 27 2013 versus Jan 5 2015) and the first Flex never saw Lollipop.
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Intuitively, logically, and reasonably we should expect Marshmallow and the rumors floating around on the android sites are a good sign, but personally I won't bank on it until LG puts out something official. The original Flex was release only 9 weeks earlier than the Flex 2 the prior year (Oct 27 2013 versus Jan 5 2015) and the first Flex never saw Lollipop.
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The Flex and G2 had the same SoC, yet LG abandons it with no apology to users. I can't even find a reason for why they'd abandon a phone with those specs while it still had KitKat. Heck. I don't even understand why KitKat never came to the ATT LG Optimus G despite having the S4 Pro.
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I hope you're wrong about 20/80 for Marshmallow. The phone is only ~6 months old and abandonment by LG would be a pretty miserable business decision. As far as unlocking bootloader, we'll more likely get that unofficially as a result of developer effort (highly unlikely without some LG tech leak) but overall the odds are probably even worse than 5%, especially for those of us with AT&T model.
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The above post is exactly why I'm skeptical towards an official announcement. If you see news from LG please do share because their lips have been sealed on such details.
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take it with a grain of salt, but this list seem logical to me..
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The Flex and G2 had the same SoC, yet LG abandons it with no apology to users. I can't even find a reason for why they'd abandon a phone with those specs while it still had KitKat. Heck. I don't even understand why KitKat never came to the ATT LG Optimus G despite having the S4 Pro.
The above post is exactly why I'm skeptical towards an official announcement. If you see news from LG please do share because their lips have been sealed on such details.
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I see where you are coming from here, but I think that the flex 2 is much better and more popular than the original flex. I don't fully understand why the deep price cut, but it will dramatically increase sales no doubt.
Sidebar: Thanks again to help me confirm I had bad sensors. I sent the phone to LG for repair under warranty and they replaced the entire screen. When I got the phone back it was updated to 5.1.1, so now I don't have to worry about trying to coerce an OTA (sweet!). Battery life is stellar so far and no heat issues. Marshmallow would be a real treat (pun intended) on this phone, so I will stay hopeful that we'll get it (eventually)
Anyway if LG doesn't keep his word, I won't buy his device anymore
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LG Flex 2 IS getting Marshmallow, U can bet your S'mores on it.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-marshmallow-update-coming-to-lg-g4-g3-not-g2-27399720/
Guys. And gals? I am needing to snag an upgrade. I have note 4 ...The real reason is to get my bill down with the new pricing on easy pay. But on 16th they will go up 10 bucks. So ive been searching hard. 810 rumors are rampid. Id rather ask you users. Has the throttling stopped since the updates? Was this really the korean model? Or? How does the screen look compared to note 4? I ask because i love amoled. I also like the fact the flex is not seen much in the hand around my parts,of town. Lol. I see development is lacking. Guess no loki? Wonder why sprint would sell the flex 2 with locked bootloader? Oh well. 5.1.1 and up should fix all the lag. Please if you feel you might have some front facts on all this i hope u would give me all your opinions based on ownership. Thanks.
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ive owned alot of phones in the last few years includes iphone 6+,iphone 6, oneplus one, lg g3,note 3,lg g2 and down the line. And im guessing it was korean bloat along with 2gb ram...? cause i have the att gflex 2 with h950pr rom installed and this phone flies and i have not seen any problems with performance. this is my favorite phone so far, just really like the design and speed. :good:
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All i want is my unlocked blootloader, 6.0 will be cool, but all i can pray for is that Lg blesses us with a unlocked bootloader.
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+1 :good:
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ive owned alot of phones in the last few years includes iphone 6+,iphone 6, oneplus one, lg g3,note 3,lg g2 and down the line. And im guessing it was korean bloat along with 2gb ram...? cause i have the att gflex 2 with h950pr rom installed and this phone flies and i have not seen any problems with performance. this is my favorite phone so far, just really like the design and speed. :good:
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Sweet. So like myself youve had plenty of latest flagships. How crisp is the screen? Any pentile effect? Or is it as sharp as say note 3 or 4?
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First thing I noticed was how much better the screen looked imo then the note 3 not as good as g3 sharpness but close and colors are better since its amoled.