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Hey guys, I'm new here and I had a couple of questions before I bought a used Fuze. Right now I have verizon and I am switching over to att because my contract is over.
1. I am scared to buy a used fuze because if I buy a used one from someone and it is stolen can it still be activated?
I know that if I buy a verizon phone that is stolen then it can't be activated.
not sure how you handle it in usa but in europe I never had to activate any phone
just pop in the sim and type in the sim code
heard about the aktivating in usa in relation to iphones
The thing is that I'm gonna sign a 2 year contract with att, I just wanted to know if I buy a used phone and it is stolen will I still be able to use it.
I am not going to take a chance on buying a stolen phone if I can't use it.
Get a phone you know for sure isn't stolen, make sure it comes with all the accessories and box and then you can feel safe.
Do not buy a phone if you know it is stolen, that is both illegal and wrong.
if you buy a stolen phone which have been reported stolen the police give
the IMEI number hardcoded in the phone to the operators to be added to their
block of service list in the country
and other countries the operators have a working relationship with
Ya ok, then the best thing to do is buy a new phone.
I was saying that if I buy a used phone and it is stolen then I wouldn't be able to activate it.
I didn't mean to say I WAS gonna buy a stolen phone, no no.
Thanks guys. Goin to get it in an hour!
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
atlaswing said:
if you're signing a 2 yr contract anyways, why not get a subsidized phone straight from ATT. up until a few days ago, wireless att com website had the refurbished Fuze for FREE w/ 2yr contract. just checked website now and it is out of stock. they go in-out of stock so call in and ask.
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Thats a deal, I'll call them and ask about it. Thanks
Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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Here in the USA we don't have the IMEI blocking service, even if the phone was stolen you can still use it. When my Blackberry was stolen I called AT&T to report it and all they could do was block my PIN from the device and not the device itself. It's not like Verizon or in any other country.
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verizon uses CDMA... if (for whatever reason) you need to change phones, you have to go through Verizon to activate the ESN(cdma version of IMEI) on the phone to tie to your Verizon account
for GSM, as long as the phone is unlocked, just slip the SIM card into in and the phone should work
one reason why i like GSM better: you don't have to do much to get a replacement phone
Since this phone doesn't use a sim card or anything, is there anything I need to do before selling it on craigslist? I don't want to deal with any problems once the transaction is complete.
My sprint contract is over, and I'm switching carriers, so I'd like to sell this phone. However, after a factory reset (locking the bootloader, flashing stock rom, etc) my old sprint phone number still shows up under the phone info.
Will this be a problem for whoever I sell it to? What do they need to do to activate it on their own plan?
Thanks in advance!
michael.ahdett said:
Since this phone doesn't use a sim card or anything, is there anything I need to do before selling it on craigslist? I don't want to deal with any problems once the transaction is complete.
My sprint contract is over, and I'm switching carriers, so I'd like to sell this phone. However, after a factory reset (locking the bootloader, flashing stock rom, etc) my old sprint phone number still shows up under the phone info.
Will this be a problem for whoever I sell it to? What do they need to do to activate it on their own plan?
Thanks in advance!
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Pay the bill to make sure the ESN is clean.
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Whenever I sold one of my Sprint phones on Craigslist, I would have the buyer meet me at a Sprint store to make the exchange and have the phone activated under his number.
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Whenever I sold one of my Sprint phones on Craigslist, I would have the buyer meet me at a Sprint store to make the exchange and have the phone activated under his number.
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Safe practice. :thumbup:
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Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right?
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And yet, you still want to be with Sprint. I'm so lost.
From what I've heard, you can't bring your own phone to sprint's month to month service. You can if you sign a contract though, but you knew that already.
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Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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This is your chance to run far away. There are tons of other services that provide better pricing and service than Sprint, unless you're in that 5% of the country that Sprint would get better service, somehow.
It's all because of my job. I work in a large concrete building where there is ZERO AT&T service.
Verizon and Boost Mobile work well, so since Boost uses Sprint towers I was looking to join them.
Can you activate this phone on Boost Mobile? I need another suggestion along those lines.
Hand76 said:
It's all because of my job. I work in a large concrete building where there is ZERO AT&T service.
Verizon and Boost Mobile work well, so since Boost uses Sprint towers I was looking to join them.
Can you activate this phone on Boost Mobile? I need another suggestion along those lines.
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Nope. Boost requires you to buy a phone from them. Why not just use Ting?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/328466-nexus-5-boostmobile.html
aooga said:
Nope. Boost requires you to buy a phone from them. Why not just use Ting?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/328466-nexus-5-boostmobile.html
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Never even heard of it lol. Going to look into it now.
Try ting
Hand76 said:
Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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If you want to use the Sprint network with your Nexus 5, try signing up with Ting.com (a Sprint MVNO). They're very responsive to users and prices are much better than Sprint's. You'll need to order a Sprint SIM from them for $10 unless you can pick one up elsewhere.
It will work on sprint. You have to get a LTE sim card from them. Do not let them tell you otherwise. That's all you need. Pop it in and reboot. I'd call sprint and ask them to send you one.
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Would they have to add the MEID for 1x/EVDO or all Nexus 5s in their database already? A prepaid option like Ting may be a good way to go but if you could figure it out how to flash to Page Plus that would be cool too.
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Are you a masochist? If I were you I would run as far away as possible from Sprint. You said you don't get AT&T coverage at work. What about T-Mobile?
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Would they have to add the MEID for 1x/EVDO or all Nexus 5s in their database already? A prepaid option like Ting may be a good way to go but if you could figure it out how to flash to Page Plus that would be cool too.
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I was wondering that myself. If T-Mobile has good 3/4g in your area it will be a great experience on this phone.
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Hand76 said:
Call Sprint store. Tell me they can't activate a new phone I have to purchase from them. Tell them the phone is unlocked and works on Sprint they said they don't know how to do it.
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
Call Corporate office tell me yes I can activate it but this phone does not qualify for a month to month service and even though it's unlocked I will be locked into a 2 year contract as a new customer.
Does that sound right? I only have 14 days to decide if I want to stick with the service? How could I be hit with a penalty for leaving if they have given me nothing up front?
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none of that is correct. i assume you have a 32gig model. you must remove the last number from the imei and the system will recognize it. you can go on the new month to month framily plan since you are bringing your own device. bringing your own device is the same as purchasing one through the new easy pay program (where you have no contract, just obligated to pay phone off).
Hey and you can join my framily while your at it. Your bill would be $40 a or lower at the base. PM me for details. ?
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Hand76 said:
Call second Sprint store ask for the IMEI number and tell me they can't find a record for it, cant activate it, they are busy sorry goodbye.
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You didn't buy your N5 from T-mo by any chance, did you? There have been issues with activating N5 purchased from T-mo, onto Sprint because Sprint didn't have those IMEIs loaded into their system (phones purchased from google had that issue for the first few days after launch, but it was quickly addressed. But phones purchased from T-mo reportedly still have the issue)
I have 5 months left on my Verizon contract and i am trying to find a way to not pay my $170 etf fee. If I change my phone line to a tablet, then I would only need to pay a monthly fee of $10 and have it mooch of my wife's data for the 5 months. Way cheaper... The only thing is I do not have nor do I want to buy a tablet with Verizon connectivity. So..... What if buy a tablet, activate it to my account then return it . or even better yet... Would you think it would work?
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moates4 said:
I have 5 months left on my Verizon contract and i am trying to find a way to not pay my $170 etf fee. If I change my phone line to a tablet, then I would only need to pay a monthly fee of $10 and have it mooch of my wife's data for the 5 months. Way cheaper... The only thing is I do not have nor do I want to buy a tablet with Verizon connectivity. So..... What if buy a tablet, activate it to my account then return it . or even better yet... Get a imei from a demo at the Verizon store and activate that to my account for the next 5 months. Anyone heard of doing something like this? Would you think it would work?
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you could probably just get your new provider to pay it
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GetRipped said:
you could probably just get your new provider to pay it
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Not in my case. It's not that huge of a deal. Just wanted to see if anything like this has been done.
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A bit of cleanup, FYI we do not allow discussion of IMEI changing etc because it is illegal. Let's stick to legal means of ETF avoidance if we can,
Thanks.
Just activate a dumb phone on the line...it's what I did for mine. Borrowed them from people's junk drawers...lol
I can confirm dumb phone lines work fine...
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Let your new service provider pay your ETF.
x_V.I.P.3.l2_x said:
Let your new service provider pay your ETF.
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This. T-Mobile pays your ETF when you switch to their service.
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If it's an unlimited data plan. Sell it.
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orangekid said:
A bit of cleanup, FYI we do not allow discussion of IMEI changing etc because it is illegal. Let's stick to legal means of ETF avoidance if we can,
Thanks.
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Technically imei repair is legal because your repairing it to bring it back to its original carrier. This is legal also because their is no cloning that can be done like with esn's because with imei's its gsm and gsm activates your sim card and not the phone so their is no way to clone anyway as its not like esn's where the esn was linked to the exact phone make and model. Gsm imei numbers are not registered to any particular phone so they can actually be legally changed.
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If you have bad service at your residence many times you can get them to let you out of your contract without an etf. You have to document the problem and report it and verizon will give you a ticket number and will say to give them a week or so to check it out. Then after they confirm it you have to discuss it with them. They will try to offer you a network extender maybe even for free. Your only way out of that is either say you have no home internet to power it or you were going to get rid of it due to finances. As they cannot make you provide broadband internet for their network extender. Then you have to tell them you dont want to pay for a service you cant use you may have to ask for a supervisor. It can be done you just have to not take no for answer, and dont be afraid to say you will talk to the better business bureau as this type of stuff does hurt their reputation. Also you can mention getting all your friends and relatives to switch to at&t or tmobile. Verizon has been starting to feel the pressure from the competition mostly tmobile with price cuts and no contracts, and at&t has been cutting prices also and with their final buy out of alltel and cricket they are gaining ground on verizon so verizon is feeling it in their sales so they probably would give in and let you out. But you have to have bad service at home for this to work. If you already have a network extender for verizon turn it off when you call if they ask it took a dump and you threw it out, and dont accept another one from them say you got rid of your home broadband internet that you cant afford it.
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Technically imei repair is legal because your repairing it to bring it back to its original carrier. This is legal also because their is no cloning that can be done like with esn's because with imei's its gsm and gsm activates your sim card and not the phone so their is no way to clone anyway as its not like esn's where the esn was linked to the exact phone make and model. Gsm imei numbers are not registered to any particular phone so they can actually be legally changed.
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That is not correct.
an IMEI is tied to the phone just like an ESN does. If I change the SIM card in my tmobile phone, my phone still retain the same IMEI as before.
This was not talking about "repairing" anything, but cloning the IMEI or ESN of another phone/tablet, which is illegal.
Regardless of any of that, discussion of IMEI or ESN changing on this forum is not allowed, period. If you have any more question or concern on that point please PM me, I won't bite (probably).
As to the no service aspect of the ETF avoidance, if you really are getting bad service then you have a legitimate claim, it's up to them to see what they'll do about it.
Doing something illegal to avoid an etf is just stupid. Plus it shouldn't be talked about here.
If your service is truly unusable where you live, the carrier will take care of the etf.
Otherwise, you got the phone at a discount. Pay what you owe instead of trying to weasel your way out by being dishonest.
As for the $10 switch, that works fine. I've done it many times.
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That is not correct.
an IMEI is tied to the phone just like an ESN does. If I change the SIM card in my tmobile phone, my phone still retain the same IMEI as before.
This was not talking about "repairing" anything, but cloning the IMEI or ESN of another phone/tablet, which is illegal.
Regardless of any of that, discussion of IMEI or ESN changing on this forum is not allowed, period. If you have any more question or concern on that point please PM me, I won't bite (probably).
As to the no service aspect of the ETF avoidance, if you really are getting bad service then you have a legitimate claim, it's up to them to see what they'll do about it.
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No it is not the gsm imei numbers do not. If a gsm imei number is repaired to return to its original carrier the gsm carrier does not know what model of phone it is by the imei number. Such as gsm carriers like at&t & tmobile will activate a sprint imei number on their network because they do not even acknowledge it as being a sprint imei, all they do is make sure the imei number is not blacklisted. If the imei is not blacklisted then they do not care, as they activate your sim card and not your imei number of your phone.
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schwartz.matthew.e said:
Doing something illegal to avoid an etf is just stupid. Plus it shouldn't be talked about here.
If your service is truly unusable where you live, the carrier will take care of the etf.
Otherwise, you got the phone at a discount. Pay what you owe instead of trying to weasel your way out by being dishonest.
As for the $10 switch, that works fine. I've done it many times.
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I only pointed out that bad service is a reason to end a contract, but as I listed bad service is required for that to apply. Many people just accept having bad service thinking they have no options when they actually do because bad service is a legitimate excuse to be let out of a contract without an etf. These cell carriers brag about how they cover 97% of americans when we all know that is a total lie maybe one day someone will sue them and make them stop advertising such lies.
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No it is not the gsm imei numbers do not. If a gsm imei number is repaired to return to its original carrier the gsm carrier does not know what model of phone it is by the imei number. Such as gsm carriers like at&t & tmobile will activate a sprint imei number on their network because they do not even acknowledge it as being a sprint imei, all they do is make sure the imei number is not blacklisted. If the imei is not blacklisted then they do not care, as they activate your sim card and not your imei number of your phone.
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I only pointed out that bad service is a reason to end a contract, but as I listed bad service is required for that to apply. Many people just accept having bad service thinking they have no options when they actually do because bad service is a legitimate excuse to be let out of a contract without an etf. These cell carriers brag about how they cover 97% of americans when we all know that is a total lie maybe one day someone will sue them and make them stop advertising such lies.
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Indeed. But, they don't say what coverage those people have. They get their statistics more or less very accurately. It just wouldn't be what anyone calls good service. Lol!
ETF
Verizon corporate store managers (the good managers) can suggest scenarios to avoid ETFs. Discuss in-person in the store.
schwartz.matthew.e said:
Indeed. But, they don't say what coverage those people have. They get their statistics more or less very accurately. It just wouldn't be what anyone calls good service. Lol!
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There is no way they actually cover 97% of americans I will tell you why. I live on an Ohio state route highway and I get 1 or 2 max out of 6 bars of signal usually only one and 1x yes 1g data that is total crap. They care more about this xlte crap than even making regular lte everywhere, heck we dont even have 3g data here and you verizon are going to brag about adding xlte coverage. I think verizon needs to rehire the guy that goes around calling saying can you hear me know, because clearly they fired him long ago and no longer care about actually covering populated areas. They should have that guy also say do we have lte now ? Or actually he should say do we have 3g now because I"am only only seeing 1x on my phone, arent we supposed to have finished the lte roll out ? Oh apparently not because if there is only 1x that sure aint lte now is it ?
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There is no way they actually cover 97% of americans I will tell you why. I live on an Ohio state route highway and I get 1 or 2 max out of 6 bars of signal usually only one and 1x yes 1g data that is total crap. They care more about this xlte crap than even making regular lte everywhere, heck we dont even have 3g data here and you verizon are going to brag about adding xlte coverage. I think verizon needs to rehire the guy that goes around calling saying can you hear me know, because clearly they fired him long ago and no longer care about actually covering populated areas. They should have that guy also say do we have lte now ? Or actually he should say do we have 3g now because I"am only only seeing 1x on my phone, arent we supposed to have finished the lte roll out ? Oh apparently not because if there is only 1x that sure aint lte now is it ?
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Thus what I said about they don't specify what coverage everyone gets lol. I live in Ohio too actually. Overall, Verizon is the best though. I've worked with network engineers that do work for multiple carriers and they'll confirm vz is the best. Overall the best. Emphasis on overall. Lol.
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Thus what I said about they don't specify what coverage everyone gets lol. I live in Ohio too actually. Overall, Verizon is the best though. I've worked with network engineers that do work for multiple carriers and they'll confirm vz is the best. Overall the best. Emphasis on overall. Lol.
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I was only getting 1x data I had them investigate had been 2 weeks they said no plans to fix coverage and they admitted they have limited coverage for me here. They are letting me out of my contract with no etf otherwise I would have had to pay the $350 as I have only had the service a bit over a month, and I dont have to return my m8 either. But they did sell me service for my address which they clearly could not provide, and the crazy thing is I"am a regular length drive way away from an Ohio state route highway, right on the highway, as our address is the highway itself. That is pretty sad no coverage a driveway away from an Ohio state route.
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I have 5 months left on my Verizon contract and i am trying to find a way to not pay my $170 etf fee. If I change my phone line to a tablet, then I would only need to pay a monthly fee of $10 and have it mooch of my wife's data for the 5 months. Way cheaper... The only thing is I do not have nor do I want to buy a tablet with Verizon connectivity. So..... What if buy a tablet, activate it to my account then return it . or even better yet... Would you think it would work?
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Just have them activate a tablet on it...you don't need a tablet just the tablet Sim...or as others said get a dumb phone and swap it on there.
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Roefastford said:
I only pointed out that bad service is a reason to end a contract, but as I listed bad service is required for that to apply. Many people just accept having bad service thinking they have no options when they actually do because bad service is a legitimate excuse to be let out of a contract without an etf. These cell carriers brag about how they cover 97% of americans when we all know that is a total lie maybe one day someone will sue them and make them stop advertising such lies.
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Why is is such a lie? Have you looked at the population distribution in the US? Did you know that you can cover 39% of the population by just installing cell towers in the counties that border the ocean? And that area is only 10% of the land area of the US.
I just used my upgrade to get a vzw m8 with the intention of selling it, then bolting to tmobile. I plan to be on the hook for my etf for 350, which I expect tmobile to eventually pay in 8 to 12 weeks.... Will my m8 get BLACKLISTED if I try this? I would assume not. My thinking is that's what the ETF is covering... Am I correct? I don't wanna sell a phone that has been blacklisted. Thanks
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I just used my upgrade to get a vzw m8 with the intention of selling it, then bolting to tmobile. I plan to be on the hook for my etf for 350, which I expect tmobile to eventually pay in 8 to 12 weeks.... Will my m8 get BLACKLISTED if I try this? I would assume not. My thinking is that's what the ETF is covering... Am I correct? I don't wanna sell a phone that has been blacklisted. Thanks
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You should be good. I have sold phones purchased at on contract prices prior to my contract being up and had no issues.
I have 2 lines of service that I'm terminating and was gonna pay $100 a month until etf is paid by tmobile... Hopefully that will keep my phone's from being blacklisted!!
I thought when tmobile or even sprint now for that matter, dont they make you turn in your phone from your old carrier ? I assumed that was the case, so they can sell off your old phone to pay towards your old carriers etf they are paying off ? Am I wrong here because it makes sense that you would have to turn your phone in to them in the deal ?
The ESN will only be blacklisted if it is reported to be stolen or lost.
Some companies will not accept other companies' ESN (like Sprint and Verizon,) but with advance of LTE sim cards, this might be a moot point.
In any case, there's no reason why someone else cannot use your phone, unless you report it lost/stolen.
You have to trade in the m8 to T-Mobile in order for them to pay the etf. Since its brand new, I'd just return it to Verizon and cancel your contract outright. It will save you time and money in the long run.
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justin94 said:
You have to trade in the m8 to T-Mobile in order for them to pay the etf. Since its brand new, I'd just return it to Verizon and cancel your contract outright. It will save you time and money in the long run.
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What he said. You can't sell the phone because T-Mobile gets the phone, and you also have to buy one of theirs. Better idea - just stick with Verizon. Everyone's prices are going down these days, Verizon should be next. But even if you just stopped paying Verizon (without covering the ETF), then yes, your phone would get blacklisted. It is not just lost or stolen phones, it's unpaid bills that get your blacklisted too. Source: I deal with this stuff every day.
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What he said. You can't sell the phone because T-Mobile gets the phone, and you also have to buy one of theirs. Better idea - just stick with Verizon. Everyone's prices are going down these days, Verizon should be next. But even if you just stopped paying Verizon (without covering the ETF), then yes, your phone would get blacklisted. It is not just lost or stolen phones, it's unpaid bills that get your blacklisted too. Source: I deal with this stuff every day.
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Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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nabbed said:
Are you saying that Verizon will "blacklist" a Verizon ESN phone for not paying Verizon bills?
This is ridiculous.
How do they "blacklist" your sim slot?
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Are you serious? I don't even know what you're trying to ask about "blacklisting a SIM slot", they blacklist the IMEI of the phone (it doesn't matter if you use your Verizon HTC One M8 on AT&T or T-Mobile - regardless of what SIM is in your SIM slot, your IMEI is the same), which typically all of the major carriers share now. You go to make a call and it says "this phone has been blocked from network usage."
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Are you serious? I don't even know what you're trying to ask about "blacklisting a SIM slot", they blacklist the IMEI of the phone (it doesn't matter if you use your Verizon HTC One M8 on AT&T or T-Mobile - regardless of what SIM is in your SIM slot, your IMEI is the same), which typically all of the major carriers share now. You go to make a call and it says "this phone has been blocked from network usage."
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Are you saying that there's a global database of "blacklisted" phones? Which every carrier now uses? Even gsm carriers, which don't even use ESN?
nabbed said:
Are you saying that there's a global database of "blacklisted" phones? Which every carrier now uses? Even gsm carriers, which don't even use ESN?
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LTE is an evolution of GSM (more or less). LTE phones have an IMEI. Take out your M8 and go to Settings > About > Phone Identity and look at the third line, which is your IMEI (not your ESN), or look at the box and notice that you don't see an ESN (o an MEID), but you do see an IMEI. Then look at the 6th line, which is your ICC ID, AKA your SIM card number. The IMEI does not change (without flashing), no matter which SIM card you put in the phone, and it it what is used to identify your phone.
And yes, there is a global IMEI blacklist, it's even mentioned on the GSMA's website (and Verizon Wireless is a member of GSMA).
http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database
brandogg said:
LTE is an evolution of GSM (more or less). LTE phones have an IMEI. Take out your M8 and go to Settings > About > Phone Identity and look at the third line, which is your IMEI (not your ESN), or look at the box and notice that you don't see an ESN (o an MEID), but you do see an IMEI. Then look at the 6th line, which is your ICC ID, AKA your SIM card number. The IMEI does not change (without flashing), no matter which SIM card you put in the phone, and it it what is used to identify your phone.
And yes, there is a global IMEI blacklist, it's even mentioned on the GSMA's website (and Verizon Wireless is a member of GSMA).
http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database
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Take an lte sim and pop it into a phone that supports it.
Are you saying that sometimes it won't work because a carrier has blacklisted your phone?
I'm saying that in order for T-Mobile to pay your Verizon etf, you need to turn in the eligible device (m8). Without it, they will jot pay the etf. Verizon will also block the phone from being used on any major carrier.
Don't try to cheat this system. It will come back on you.
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If verizon blacklists your imei number it wont work for basically any carrier in the USA unless the imei is repaired, but the phone blacklisted in the USA can still be used in other countries as no other countries care about an imei that is blacklisted in the USA.