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Anyone consider this? No the transformer isn't running chrome...for those who don't know. But I have a chromebook and absolutely love it. I had to let someone borrow it for a little while and now I realize how much I miss it and how great it would be on the transformer. The native browser blows and so does every other browser. I cant use it to do real work. I could do almost everything on chrome. Any thoughts on this?
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is chrome is designed to run on arm platforms? I I thought all the Chromebooks were using x86?
Could be a limiting factor...
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is chrome is designed to run on arm platforms? I I thought all the Chromebooks were using x86?
Could be a limiting factor...
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Ehh... Try Chromium... Not sure if it'll work on the transformer, probably not... But Chrome is a light OS, should have no problems running on ARM.
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Anyone consider this? No the transformer isn't running chrome...for those who don't know. But I have a chromebook and absolutely love it. I had to let someone borrow it for a little while and now I realize how much I miss it and how great it would be on the transformer. The native browser blows and so does every other browser. I cant use it to do real work. I could do almost everything on chrome. Any thoughts on this?
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I have not used Chrome but the defaut web browser on the Transformer sucks. Opera isn't much better. Your are right, even posting on XDA I find to be a huge pain in the butt.
Install ubuntu, uninstall everything except for browser. Make it open browser on the login. TADA. I don't think I would want google to have more control over my my life.
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I have not used Chrome but the defaut web browser on the Transformer sucks. Opera isn't much better. Your are right, even posting on XDA I find to be a huge pain in the butt.
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You are *SO* mistaking Chrome and ChromeOS
Wikipedia (in italian) says that is designed to run on x86 and Arm processors
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Correct me if I'm wrong but jolicloud is so similar that may work... And I believe that runs on ARM
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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We aren't talking about the browser...
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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Your a little off subject.
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Also I'm all for seeing Chrome os on transformer. It's running on macbooks.
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I am so down for this. i got one of those Cr-48 Chromebooks. and im not gonna lie. its a sweet OS. specially for students.
If it were between ChromeOS and Ubuntu I'd rather use Ubuntu since its a full blown Linux OS compared to ChromeOS which is essentially just a web browser with web apps.
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If it were between ChromeOS and Ubuntu I'd rather use Ubuntu since its a full blown Linux OS compared to ChromeOS which is essentially just a web browser with web apps.
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Now I've never run ubuntu on my tf but I feel like Chrome OS will run better considering its really light weight
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Because Chrome is spyware infested and so is the OS.
Sorry but Google is lucky that Android has proven itself trustworthy....ChomeOS and its crappy browser has not.
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Because Chrome is spyware infested and so is the OS.
Sorry but Google is lucky that Android has proven itself trustworthy....ChomeOS and its crappy browser has not.
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On the original topic; i would *always* prefer ubuntu to chromeos i think; similar boot time and the ability to have local terminals wins.
Second; chrome is probably the best browser at the moment; firefox5 is good but not there yet.
Why would you think Android is, "Trustworthy" but not ChromeOS? I would actually trust ChromeOS more; as less hands are modifying it before it gets into consumers hands (so far), it's lightweight; there isn't any incentive for device makers to push junk/spyware onto the platform ye.t
Sure it can work. Chrome/Chromium OS is basically a dumbed down linux distro (based on Gentoo, if I'm not mistaken?) and also has support for ARM (the main thing we need). If we get a Chromium OS root filesystem, we could most likely do a bit of small changes to the existing Ubuntu ARM scripts and get Chromium OS working on TF.
Not sure if it includes touch drivers by default. Shouldn't be hard to manually get them on.
I don't know if Hexxeh has actually compiled any Chromium OS builds for ARM, but if so you could make a root fs from his. And note that we would be talking about Chromium OS not Chrome OS. Chromium OS is the free distributable version that doesn't include the proprietary elements included in Chrome OS. If you were to get Chrome OS running on your TF, pretty sure it's breaking a few licenses (and therefore illegal).
And after that's all said and done, I have absolutely no idea why any of you would want to run such a dumbed down OS and take even more functionality away from your tablet. If you really wanted this, install Ubuntu, and remove all the elements you don't want and just leave Chrome browser to load at boot. It's pretty much the same thing, but you've got a full blown OS sitting there in case you ever want to do anything else.
And to the person who just "feels" like Ubuntu would be slower because Chrome OS is lightweight... please understand that Linux is not Windows... you can make it as lightweight as you please. It's extremely modular so if the desktop is too heavy, just remove it and install a different one. See LXDE or XFCE if you want a nice lightweight Ubuntu.
Google has implied that Android is for mobile devices, and Chrome OS is for netbooks. While the TF (for example) can be functionally either, it is still a tablet at heart. And keep in mind the simple things, like the fact that Chrome OS does not need to rely on a soft keyboard, and therefore would not be the best fit on a tablet. Of course, you could make it work, but it's not specifically designed for it at this point.
One of Google's co-founders also stated that it's possible the two may merge at some point. I have a link for that, but the board won't let me post it. Check the Wikipedia article for Chrome OS and visit citation note #52.
And of course, there's always the possibility that Android will mature into something incredible, and they'll abandon Chrome OS all together.
There's a distinct hardware difference that keeps Chrome OS from being the OS of choice on these tablet devices, and it's not just because they're all ARM architecture. Even the low-level Cr-48 has twice as much RAM, a faster CPU clock, and several magnitudes faster I/O thanks to its 16GB SSD. While the Tegra certainly outpaces the Intel Atom for those applications that are optimized for it, the problem is that most of the web is not optimized for the new architecture, so web browsing in general is blazingly fast by comparison on an x86-based laptop like the Cr-48.
As set forth by Google for all Chromebook manufacturers, just the bare minimum RAM requirement for these devices is 2GB, and all existing Tegra tablets have only half of that. You could technically run Chrome OS anyway, but, like the native Ubuntu port, you'd be crawling most of the time. In Android the system already struggles sometimes when firing up the Android browser, so just imagine how bad it would be on an OS where all of the applications are launched through the browser.
Hi everyone, I've been lurking in the forum for quite a while, and now I'm finally about to purchase my own Transformer . The main reason that I'm getting a tablet is to read PDFs (technical books/text books, mostly large files), and I just want to get some suggestions and hear some of your experiences before making the final decision.
Earlier this year I bought a Galaxy Tab 7" for the purpose but found it hardly acceptable --- pages load super slow and it lags quite a bit when changing pages. The screen was bit too small for text books. I ended up selling it.
So I'm hoping that the Transformer can be an big improvement. Do you generally find that the quality of reading PDFs user experience is bad, acceptable, good, great? e.g. legible, easy to zoom in and out, landscape mode works, smooth/laggy when flipping pages, annotation capability(with Repligo or ezPDF) and etc.?
Any suggestion is welcomed. Thank you all in advance!
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Hi everyone, I've been lurking in the forum for quite a while, and now I'm finally about to purchase my own Transformer . The main reason that I'm getting a tablet is to read PDFs (technical books/text books, mostly large files), and I just want to get some suggestions and hear some of your experiences before making the final decision.
Earlier this year I bought a Galaxy Tab 7" for the purpose but found it hardly acceptable --- pages load super slow and it lags quite a bit when changing pages. The screen was bit too small for text books. I ended up selling it.
So I'm hoping that the Transformer can be an big improvement. Do you generally find that the quality of reading PDFs user experience is bad, acceptable, good, great? e.g. legible, easy to zoom in and out, landscape mode works, smooth/laggy when flipping pages, annotation capability(with Repligo or ezPDF) and etc.?
Any suggestion is welcomed. Thank you all in advance!
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It works quite well. Haven't tried either of the apps listed in the last paragraph, but asus stock reader and polaris office both do it stock. I think asus does a really good job and is quite smooth. no annotation though.
I'm an engineer who uses several manuals that are thousands of pages long. My steels manual, for example, is 2500 pages. I've no problem opening those big-ass PDF files. You came too late. ezpdf was on sale for 10 cents just a few days ago.
Repligo and ezpdf both allows you to hand write notes directly into your PDF files. Ezpdf allows bookmarks. If you want to open PDF files that are 2000+ pages with lots of pictures and contents, use repligo.
I own all PDF apps out there. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. And yes, both allows annotations. ezpdf is better at it, though. Just get both.
I had the ipad 2 before buying the eeepad.
eeepad is a little slow in changing the pages during flipping the pdf.
i run my eeepad at 1.2ghz and have tried all of the readers.
Ipad2 was 20-30% better experience in pdf viewing than the eeepad.
but i believe this is it because itunes optimize the pdf compression of the pdf files before sending it to the ipad2.
hope with ics the pdf experience will become a little better.
I find the PDF reading experience on my Transformer good, sometimes there is a little lag in changing pages.... but it is no big deal. The screen is good, I have no problem with that.
I use Aldiko for my eBook reading, as well as Adobe PDF, Polaris and the ASUS reader, though the readers goodintentions mentioned (RePligo and ezPDF) sound better suited to what you want to do... I might try them out myself.
I use mine for textbooks and programming books p) with no problems, I had significant lag one time when trying to open a photography book, but that was a massive PDF with over 600 pages of high quality photos.
tno~~
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I find the PDF reading experience on my Transformer good, sometimes there is a little lag in changing pages.... but it is no big deal. The screen is good, I have no problem with that.
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The lag you speak of are app specific and says nothing about the TF.
Remember that those apps you're using are free apps. They are not optimized.
I use mine for textbooks and programming books p) with no problems, I had significant lag one time when trying to open a photography book, but that was a massive PDF with over 600 pages of high quality photos.
tno~~
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Use repligo. I use it for 2000+ page pdf files with very high resolution photos with no problem.
The more I read these comments, the more I am convinced people should just get an ipad. None of these issues of choice would come up if they had used an iOS device.
It depends...
I read a lot of PDF files including magazines and books. If the pdf has images/graphics etc, it will lag when turning pages, kind of annoying. The most efficient reader speedwise for high graphics documents is adobe reader, but it is not great. Polaris office sometimes does a decent job.
Depending on the intensity of the file, the page may take a second or two to fully render. Zooming will even be slower.
This is my biggest gripe about this tablet, but I do not know if it would be different with other tablets as several use the same HW.
So, if you are not in a hurry, you are fine. If you are trying to find something quickly and read a lot of PDFs, check out the new prime.
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The lag you speak of are app specific and says nothing about the TF.
Remember that those apps you're using are free apps. They are not optimized.
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um I paid for Aldiko? Gonna give repligo a shot later though.
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um I paid for Aldiko? Gonna give repligo a shot later though.
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I also own aldiko. Not too savy, IMHO.
I own ezPDF and it's very good. Sometimes loading new page is slower - but thats about it. No problems and I do a lot of annotations (handwritten with stylus).
The free Adobe PDF reader is just as fast as the paid versions. In fact I'd say it's the smoothest PDF reader available.
I bought ezPDF and Repligo, but I tend to use Adobe's reader most of the time.
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The more I read these comments, the more I am convinced people should just get an ipad. None of these issues of choice would come up if they had used an iOS device.
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Yeah but then if the PDF reader sucked, there's no assurance of being able to solve it until the church pushes an update that might help.
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Thank you everyone for your kind input!
I am aware that there might be a little lag, but as long as it's not too bad I'll be fine. Didn't expect it to be silky smooth anyways
However Ipad2 does a very good job on this. I tried opening a photography magazine with lots of high-resolution pictures on my sister's ipad2, it rendered it beautifully, I could barely feel any lag when zooming or changing pages.
I'm planning to get the keyboard dock as well. I read somewhere that there's a battery drain problem with the B50/B60 batches. Can someone confirm this? Do I need to pay attention to any particular serial numbers?
Thanks!
When I read PDF documents on my Galaxy Nexus, there is no lag at all. I can just wizz through the pages. Hopefully the new Java interpreter and accelerated GUI will give the Transformer a bit of a boost in this regard too.
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When I read PDF documents on my Galaxy Nexus, there is no lag at all. I can just wizz through the pages. Hopefully the new Java interpreter and accelerated GUI will give the Transformer a bit of a boost in this regard too.
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Is there confirmation that ICS will be ported to Transformer Original?
I use ezpdf
after trying most of the ones out there, I ended up installing ezpdf on both my transformers, and my nook tablet. It is smooth for me not overclocked, the transformer for my wife is not rooted straight stock and moves well even my daughters nook color (1st gen) with cm7 works well with it. I like the page flipping and when I was taking a class it was the best option for me. I won't look back it updates all the time, they are very prompt about your responses as well.
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Is there confirmation that ICS will be ported to Transformer Original?
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There was confirmation that ICS will be ported to the original Transformer. I haven't seen any dates mentioned yet though.
Not sure if older hardware will be able to take full advantage of ICS either.
The difference in the PDF browser between the Transformer and Galaxy Nexus is quite visible though. With the Galaxy Nexus having the same resolution and (AFAIK) similar CPU power. Flick the page and it just keeps scrolling without a hickup. Until you scroll so far ahead that it needs to load the pages of course.
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There was confirmation that ICS will be ported to the original Transformer. I haven't seen any dates mentioned yet though.
Not sure if older hardware will be able to take full advantage of ICS either.
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The TF101's hardwares are anything but old. The 2nd gen xoom, for example, contain the same hardware as the TF101.
I don't understand this notion that just because something new comes out in a couple months that the current one is obsolete. My desktop is about 5 years old. I assure you, it can run everything under the sun.
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I don't understand this notion that just because something new comes out in a couple months that the current one is obsolete.
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Now now, don't get overly excited
By "old" I mean not built specifically for ICS.
My desktop is about 5 years old. I assure you, it can run everything under the sun.
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but it won't benefit from new hardware acceleration tricks since these tricks weren't built into the hardware at that time.
So my point is, the Transformer will run ICS, but will it benefit just as much from it as the Galaxy Nexus does? We'll have to wait and see.
This was one of the most interesting tests iv'e seen so far, i had no idea that the Google Chrome beta browser performed this good!
Chrome is great! I use it as my daily driver browser and its awesome. The only drawback is not being able to play flash content. However, the instances I need to view that content, I just load up one of my standby browsers. Being, Dolphin HDand Opera Mobile.
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Browser Mark looks good.
Sunspider...so and so...scored 1900 ms before on the old Atrix with 2.2 lol
Opera still better overall.
Battery was low on the ONE X which have meant it was doing the tests in power saving mode as well
Good comparision.... i will use chrome too
chrome....the most amazing browser ever...
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Chrome is great! I use it as my daily driver browser and its awesome. The only drawback is not being able to play flash content. However, the instances I need to view that content, I just load up one of my standby browsers. Being, Dolphin HDand Opera Mobile.
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You should use an app called Flashify if you don't already.
Chrome Beta is well beta, Safari on iOS is usually fairly behind on the WebKit updates.
I have a One X and used to have an iPhone , and I have to say Safari on iOS is fairly decent. Between Chrome Beta and Safari your not going to get major differences, since they use the same rendering engine under hood
Love Chrome Beta!
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Hi, I've tried several browsers, there's always stuttering and lag, same for Facebook.
My zenfone 6 [Duak core intel] was so much more smooth, like butter.
Other interfaces interestingly are absolutely find, just browsing sucks
I've tried going from smart to normal, no difference..
Pls help.
Suffer from exactly the same!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/smooth-scrolling-t3172244
Regret of buying damn phone.
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Suffer from exactly the same!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/smooth-scrolling-t3172244
Regret of buying damn phone.
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I had the same issue and followed the suggestion in your quoted thread and I've been scrolling like butter ever since. Had it on Normal for about 4 days now and there's no noticeable difference in battery consumption either
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I switched it to the normal mode but it made only a little difference, I really miss my old LG G2, was a good boy
You guys need to use better browser.
This thread was posted a whilst ago.
Enjoy
Ps - ucbrowser hd ftw!
OK guys I did the following to greatly improve chrome Browsing:
-disable Tapatalk and or TalkBack, whatever its called
- disable. Motion app, not sure what it does but yea.
- increase chrome tilesize to 512, Google for instructions.
- force gpu rendering.
It's considerably better but scrolling isn't buttery. Chrome
lags due to Google ads and JavaScript. To get buttery smooth scrolling, you have to disable JavaScript but plenty of sites are broken that way. Chrome JavaScript engine is just isn't optimised for us, while googling I saw same complaints on galaxy s6 users! So this is case of Huawei and Samsung not optimising their drivers etc. This is in no way a hardware or weaker gpu issue. This is just poor implementation of Android by Huawei.
- I stopped using chrome and am using UC browser, (not HD or any other version) its super smooth.
Fb is still meh. Hoping for inputs regarding fb.
I've MT7-TL10 I never got lags when I'm browsing
very smooth scrolling
Using Google chrome, firefox, and the default one
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Hi, I've tried several browsers, there's always stuttering and lag, same for Facebook.
My zenfone 6 [Duak core intel] was so much more smooth, like butter.
Other interfaces interestingly are absolutely find, just browsing sucks
I've tried going from smart to normal, no difference..
Pls help.
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install B120SP04 and u will be happy
Can you tell me more about it? I have tl09
Hey
I'm wondering what browsers do you use on your tablets. I'm using aosp one for most of the time but it's pretty slow nowadays and I'm looking for something new. I tried chrome/chromium based browsers and they're fast but ram usage is huge and that makes them work bad with bigger pages.
What browser gives you the best experience on your tab 2?
Sleipnir is my best browser give it a go to see by yourself
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Hey
I'm wondering what browsers do you use on your tablets. I'm using aosp one for most of the time but it's pretty slow nowadays and I'm looking for something new. I tried chrome/chromium based browsers and they're fast but ram usage is huge and that makes them work bad with bigger pages.
What browser gives you the best experience on your tab 2?
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I prefer UC browser-fast download.
It is pretty fast and it also has a good media player which supports all formats.
It additionally has a unique night mode which is pretty good.
It also gives us live scores of any sport if asked,Moreover it's only around 18mb in playstore for free.