Anyone consider this? No the transformer isn't running chrome...for those who don't know. But I have a chromebook and absolutely love it. I had to let someone borrow it for a little while and now I realize how much I miss it and how great it would be on the transformer. The native browser blows and so does every other browser. I cant use it to do real work. I could do almost everything on chrome. Any thoughts on this?
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is chrome is designed to run on arm platforms? I I thought all the Chromebooks were using x86?
Could be a limiting factor...
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is chrome is designed to run on arm platforms? I I thought all the Chromebooks were using x86?
Could be a limiting factor...
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Ehh... Try Chromium... Not sure if it'll work on the transformer, probably not... But Chrome is a light OS, should have no problems running on ARM.
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Anyone consider this? No the transformer isn't running chrome...for those who don't know. But I have a chromebook and absolutely love it. I had to let someone borrow it for a little while and now I realize how much I miss it and how great it would be on the transformer. The native browser blows and so does every other browser. I cant use it to do real work. I could do almost everything on chrome. Any thoughts on this?
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I have not used Chrome but the defaut web browser on the Transformer sucks. Opera isn't much better. Your are right, even posting on XDA I find to be a huge pain in the butt.
Install ubuntu, uninstall everything except for browser. Make it open browser on the login. TADA. I don't think I would want google to have more control over my my life.
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I have not used Chrome but the defaut web browser on the Transformer sucks. Opera isn't much better. Your are right, even posting on XDA I find to be a huge pain in the butt.
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You are *SO* mistaking Chrome and ChromeOS
Wikipedia (in italian) says that is designed to run on x86 and Arm processors
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Correct me if I'm wrong but jolicloud is so similar that may work... And I believe that runs on ARM
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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We aren't talking about the browser...
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Why does everyone whine and ***** about the browsers on the transformer? Dolphin HD doesn't suck. Get off your high horse, its not a god damned PC.
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Your a little off subject.
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Also I'm all for seeing Chrome os on transformer. It's running on macbooks.
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I am so down for this. i got one of those Cr-48 Chromebooks. and im not gonna lie. its a sweet OS. specially for students.
If it were between ChromeOS and Ubuntu I'd rather use Ubuntu since its a full blown Linux OS compared to ChromeOS which is essentially just a web browser with web apps.
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If it were between ChromeOS and Ubuntu I'd rather use Ubuntu since its a full blown Linux OS compared to ChromeOS which is essentially just a web browser with web apps.
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Now I've never run ubuntu on my tf but I feel like Chrome OS will run better considering its really light weight
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Because Chrome is spyware infested and so is the OS.
Sorry but Google is lucky that Android has proven itself trustworthy....ChomeOS and its crappy browser has not.
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Because Chrome is spyware infested and so is the OS.
Sorry but Google is lucky that Android has proven itself trustworthy....ChomeOS and its crappy browser has not.
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On the original topic; i would *always* prefer ubuntu to chromeos i think; similar boot time and the ability to have local terminals wins.
Second; chrome is probably the best browser at the moment; firefox5 is good but not there yet.
Why would you think Android is, "Trustworthy" but not ChromeOS? I would actually trust ChromeOS more; as less hands are modifying it before it gets into consumers hands (so far), it's lightweight; there isn't any incentive for device makers to push junk/spyware onto the platform ye.t
Sure it can work. Chrome/Chromium OS is basically a dumbed down linux distro (based on Gentoo, if I'm not mistaken?) and also has support for ARM (the main thing we need). If we get a Chromium OS root filesystem, we could most likely do a bit of small changes to the existing Ubuntu ARM scripts and get Chromium OS working on TF.
Not sure if it includes touch drivers by default. Shouldn't be hard to manually get them on.
I don't know if Hexxeh has actually compiled any Chromium OS builds for ARM, but if so you could make a root fs from his. And note that we would be talking about Chromium OS not Chrome OS. Chromium OS is the free distributable version that doesn't include the proprietary elements included in Chrome OS. If you were to get Chrome OS running on your TF, pretty sure it's breaking a few licenses (and therefore illegal).
And after that's all said and done, I have absolutely no idea why any of you would want to run such a dumbed down OS and take even more functionality away from your tablet. If you really wanted this, install Ubuntu, and remove all the elements you don't want and just leave Chrome browser to load at boot. It's pretty much the same thing, but you've got a full blown OS sitting there in case you ever want to do anything else.
And to the person who just "feels" like Ubuntu would be slower because Chrome OS is lightweight... please understand that Linux is not Windows... you can make it as lightweight as you please. It's extremely modular so if the desktop is too heavy, just remove it and install a different one. See LXDE or XFCE if you want a nice lightweight Ubuntu.
Google has implied that Android is for mobile devices, and Chrome OS is for netbooks. While the TF (for example) can be functionally either, it is still a tablet at heart. And keep in mind the simple things, like the fact that Chrome OS does not need to rely on a soft keyboard, and therefore would not be the best fit on a tablet. Of course, you could make it work, but it's not specifically designed for it at this point.
One of Google's co-founders also stated that it's possible the two may merge at some point. I have a link for that, but the board won't let me post it. Check the Wikipedia article for Chrome OS and visit citation note #52.
And of course, there's always the possibility that Android will mature into something incredible, and they'll abandon Chrome OS all together.
There's a distinct hardware difference that keeps Chrome OS from being the OS of choice on these tablet devices, and it's not just because they're all ARM architecture. Even the low-level Cr-48 has twice as much RAM, a faster CPU clock, and several magnitudes faster I/O thanks to its 16GB SSD. While the Tegra certainly outpaces the Intel Atom for those applications that are optimized for it, the problem is that most of the web is not optimized for the new architecture, so web browsing in general is blazingly fast by comparison on an x86-based laptop like the Cr-48.
As set forth by Google for all Chromebook manufacturers, just the bare minimum RAM requirement for these devices is 2GB, and all existing Tegra tablets have only half of that. You could technically run Chrome OS anyway, but, like the native Ubuntu port, you'd be crawling most of the time. In Android the system already struggles sometimes when firing up the Android browser, so just imagine how bad it would be on an OS where all of the applications are launched through the browser.
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Well i just had this question because i was planning on installing ubuntu 10.10 on my android phone which is OCed to 1.2 ghz stable so i was thinking if i could play games on Ubuntu through wine but the problem is that my phone has touch screen and not a physical keyboard so how can i control the games? is there an onscreen transparent keyboard in ubuntu or something?
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I am not to sure if wine works with the linux builds that runs on the arm cpu, But if it does I am sure it would run at really slow speeds if anything... If it was possible you would of heard about pc gaming on droid because that's a huge feat... but again you never know...
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droid is a slow phone lol...but ive seen ppl running wine on ubuntu 10.10 which is normal version..the only thing i wanna know that how do u actually operate linux on touchh...
It is possible to install Ubuntu, but it is a pain in the butt to control.
I can't see any reason to install it, but for the lulz.
The only chance I see on PC gaming on Android, is the Onlive app, which is already on the iPad. HTC just gave (donated, bought, I dunno) Onlive ALOT of money, so they MIGHT make it for Android.
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droid is a slow phone lol...but ive seen ppl running wine on ubuntu 10.10 which is normal version..the only thing i wanna know that how do u actually operate linux on touchh...
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with your finger of course. It will be a mouse of sorts. It sounds like you're realizing one of the greater limitations: control.
Ubuntu is not designed for mobile phones and as such doesn't have handy onscreen keyboards like you expect from a mobile phone OS. You'll probably be needing a bluetooth keyboard (if it can still pair while running linux)
You're going to be sorely disappointed with gaming in Ubuntu on your phone. In fact you'll most likely be disappointed with Ubuntu in general on your phone. I would skip the whole mess.
hmm alright thanks !
lol as was said before doing that on a mobile phone isn't smart because of the lack of control
Many would prefer a real Linux running on their phones or tablets, and that might not be too far away: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/11/01/ubuntu-versus-android-for-phones-and-tablets/
Now how about a Gnome or KDE desktop environment to go with it?
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Plasma is already being developed for mobile devices. Looks very promising.
Shoot me if I'm wrong, but MeeGo looks great as well.
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I support all open-source variants whether it is android, ubuntu, webos or meego
by the way, someone has tried to port ubuntu 11.04 to touchpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304475
Why limit it to just one distro? What I'd like to have is the ability to run any chosen distro. This would require a bootloader that can load an arbitrary kernel, and all hardware drivers in a form that allows them to be compiled for any arbitrary kernel. This means keeping up with new releases of the kernel and new X versions. Like Nvidia does it for their Geforce graphic cards. Even better would be open-source drivers, but if the vendor keeps up, I don't mind a closed driver for a few hardware pieces.
But that's utopian thinking. And that's why (plus a few other reasons) I'll always prefer a netbook over a tablet. As for phones, with Nokia dropping Meego, I don't see any "true" Linux taking off.
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I'm juggling with this idea for a little down the road but when I sit back and think about it, I have a hard time thinking of the benefits other than just for fun. What would be beneficial to you if you're considering dual boot for the tf700. This question is directed at android/ubuntu or android/win8 (if possible) users.
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The main benefit I see is the ability to run Linux applications that are designed for laptops/desktops. Things like full office suites, more robust browsers, photo editors etc. Would add a lot more functionality to the tablet, and also get you all the advantages that a windowed environment would provide for multitasking. You can do all that without dual boot through a chroot, but since you're sharing ram and cpu time with Android its a bit slow and tight.
Would also give you the option to try Win8 if we ever get a port, if it actually delivers on its promises (I highly doubt it) it could save some money initially over buying a tablet actually designed for the OS.
I actually don't see a point in dual booting. There are not much other applications you would be able to run on Linux or win 8 other than stock apps. This is an ARM device which is not compatible with x86/x64 apps.
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I actually don't see a point in dual booting. There are not much other applications you would be able to run on Linux or win 8 other than stock apps. This is an ARM device which is not compatible with x86/x64 apps.
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That really only applies to Win8. Since Linux and most of its software is open source, applications can generally be compiled to run on (or existing packages found for) any CPU type so long as its physically fast enough to handle it. The only catagroy I can see lacking on the Linux side would be heavily optimimized or 3D accelerated games, which there arent very many of in the first place.
Is it theoretically possible for me to install gentoo on my tablet?
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That really only applies to Win8. Since Linux and most of its software is open source, applications can generally be compiled to run on (or existing packages found for) any CPU type so long as its physically fast enough to handle it. The only catagroy I can see lacking on the Linux side would be heavily optimimized or 3D accelerated games, which there arent very many of in the first place.
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I thought some Windows 8 devices were to work on Tegra 3 devices? That could mean that over time, Windows 8 could get ported, right?
Not that I care, I -myself- prefer a touch-based OS for a touch-based device.
However, I still believe the are huge possibilities to improve browsing performances on Android.
Actually, being able to dual boot is very nice if you're into flashing different roms (flashaholic). It lets you have a stable go to rom. Then you can have that experimental rom to try out that may not all things thing functional or so forth.
I use Boot Manager on my HTC Evo 4G, which lets you have multiple roms on your phone; it runs them off your SDHC card. I have a stable Sense rom on the phone. Then I have, usually two, other roms on the SDHC card, such as CM7 and CM9.
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Is it theoretically possible for me to install gentoo on my tablet?
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Theoretically, it would be possible. They got Ubuntu on the Prime, so I dont see why other variants of Linux couldn't be made to work.
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I thought some Windows 8 devices were to work on Tegra 3 devices? That could mean that over time, Windows 8 could get ported, right?
Not that I care, I -myself- prefer a touch-based OS for a touch-based device.
However, I still believe the are huge possibilities to improve browsing performances on Android.
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Not quite... Win8 is only for x86 CPUs. WinRT will be made to run on Tegra 3 and has a chance of getting ported, but it wont run any Win8 desktop software, and is completely locked down iOS style so if you wanted to add any additional software without going through an app store (or period for the Desktop) you'll have to root/jailbreak.
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Actually, being able to dual boot is very nice if you're into flashing different roms (flashaholic). It lets you have a stable go to rom. Then you can have that experimental rom to try out that may not all things thing functional or so forth.
I use Boot Manager on my HTC Evo 4G, which lets you have multiple roms on your phone; it runs them off your SDHC card. I have a stable Sense rom on the phone. Then I have, usually two, other roms on the SDHC card, such as CM7 and CM9.
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This right here is the only reason I would ever dual boot. I love having a unstable cool new JB ROM but hate losing my daily driver ROM.
I'd love to dual boot (or emulate). Using Ubuntu/Win8 would massively enhance my productivity.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?
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http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?
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the new ubuntu OS looks sexy !!
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To clarify, those are two separate things. One is an entirely new mobile phone OS, the other is a docked desktop OS that runs alongside Android, sharing the kernel and other resources. The Engadget article for the Ubuntu for Android is here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/24/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on/. I'm very excited about the possibility of Ubuntu for Android, but it looks like only OEMs can talk to them about it.
I like the way the OS looks, but I rather have buttons than have swipe gestures. Gestures are what my playbook and RIM excel at.
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they should make an Ubuntu development subforum once this bad boy gets ported
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This is simply marvelous:good:, I love it!
I'd pay to have a working port of that!
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I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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Reading further you yes they intend to have it completely open source and they also plan to make it easily portable to devices that run android
I'm definitely going to want to see it
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Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.
Just finished watching the youtube intro for this. So excited. This is what I've been waiting for, for a very long time.
I installed Ubuntu natively on my Xoom a while back, it ran a bit slow but was useable. The main problem was the touchscreen driver. The HOXL is quite a bit faster than the Xoom, so it should work nicely. I'd like to get my hands on that smartphone version of Ubuntu.
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Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.
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I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.
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I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.
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yeah, I'm optimistic. It won't be a highly spec'd desktop by any means, but I'm not really a gamer (the only games I'd play on it would be chess and freeciv. You are correct - 1 GB of RAM is not a lot, and it'd struggle with any heavyweight desktop app, but I've got the Tesltra HTC one XL (which is 32 GB not 16 like the AT&T version), so it should be slightly more usable (at least while I'm waiting for manufacturers to start releasing linux phones).
For storage I'd mostly be using my home NAS, and the cloud options available.
I get that it will be quite limited, but I'd still like to see what it can do
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There are already two x86 emulators (Bochs and DosBox) for Windows RT. Bochs is slow to the point of being unusable, and DosBox is slow to the point of lagging while playing games from 1992.
x86 will likely never run (games) well on Windows RT, but it does in fact already run.
See,! It already possible . I have 1 questions, do they use virtual machines or do they do rely on the Internet
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See,! It already possible . I have 1 questions, do they use virtual machines or do they do rely on the Internet
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They use virtual machines, but they're slow to the point of complete uselessness. It takes half an hour to boot XP in them.
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Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.
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Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.
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Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps
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Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps
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Wine on x86 linux isn't emulating the CPU. This is a critical difference.
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Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.
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I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
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Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps
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It's really very unlikely that any x86 program bigger than Notepad will ever be usability fast/stable. I'd go read up a bit on emulation and the downsides regarding speed with it. This is the same reason that android tablets, which are quite arguably far more suited for this, can't do anything better than emulate 20 year old OSes, and do that poorly.
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I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
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d'oh! flip flopping between windows phone 8 and windows RT Yep, 4 arm cores. Still like trying to emulate a V8 with an inline4.
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I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
It's really very unlikely that any x86 program bigger than Notepad will ever be usability fast/stable. I'd go read up a bit on emulation and the downsides regarding speed with it. This is the same reason that android tablets, which are quite arguably far more suited for this, can't do anything better than emulate 20 year old OSes, and do that poorly.
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Instead of emulating an entire OS, would anyone entertain the idea of a program translator; A program could be build with the libraries of some main OS'es. Within the translator, when an x86 program is called the programs determines what operating systems' library to use. The translator would then render a version of the program Windows with RT can understand.
Couldn't this be likely.
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There are already two x86 emulators (Bochs and DosBox) for Windows RT. Bochs is slow to the point of being unusable, and DosBox is slow to the point of lagging while playing games from 1992.
x86 will likely never run (games) well on Windows RT, but it does in fact already run.
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I believe I no what the issue with these are.......... Bochs and DosBox do not allow users to control processing cores for each emulation. These emulators need to be updated to take advantage of this feature, it's a blessing for other OS'es
There's already a translator project much like what you describe, actually. It's early alpha quality right now, only able to run a few apps and those slowly and with stability problems, but it's a very promising proof of concept. The developer is using the DOSBox dynamic recompilation engine, optimized for THUMB-2 (ARM variant that Windows uses) with some hacks in it to remove support for stuff that only the kernel has to care about like page tables and whatnot (these hacks apparently substantially increase speed). The recompilation engine is not currently thread-safe, which means it has to run on a single core (although it's possible that the translated program itself might be able to run across multiple cores; I don't know for sure) but the possibility of fixing that is being investigated.
The project is on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum, and there's a download link for it and a (mostly playable) demo of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 as an example of what it can currently do.
Can someone point me in the duration to learn about building for ARM. I want to see if I can contribute. In school I am only learning about the x86 and x64 architectural
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Can someone point me in the duration to learn about building for ARM. I want to see if I can contribute. In school I am only learning about the x86 and x64 architectural
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Currently this is the porting method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820&highlight=arm
Requires visual studio to cross compile from a desktop windows machine.