I hope I posted this in the correct place. I am new here. :victory:
I bought a new galaxy note pro 12.2 a few days ago and I noticed today (first time I got a chance to play with sketch book) that my s Pen seems to have zero pressure sensitivity. If I push light as possible down or with good amount of pressure I can not see any difference in the brush strokes or change at all. No matter how much or light I push down, no changes in the width or shading of the line. I then noticed using photo shop touch, the same thing.
So I start to think my pen nib is maybe broken so tried a different nib from the package.
No difference.
I also made sure the pen mode was enabled
No difference.
I talked with Samsung and the rep from samsung said this is normal, that the galaxy pro 12.2 is not pressure sensitive. I inquired why there are videos on the internet of people using pressure sensitive strokes in sketch and with some pressure they become deeper and thicker. Rep made up some answer saying that wasn't the same thing and doesn't really work. I hung up at that point.
So this leads me to asking the world. Is this normal? Should the 12.2 have pressure sensitivity when using artistic apps, or was samsung rep correct that it does not work on the 12.2? I wonder if something is wrong with the Spen or the tablet or maybe a setting?
I have the ATT Note Pro 12.2 and Note 3. My Note 3 is pressure sensitive but 12.2 is not. So the rep is correct in that the Note Pro 12.2 is not pressure sensitive.
The Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 is most definitely pressure sensitive! The artistic apps that I use (Infinite Painter, Infinite Design, Artflow) have adjustable settings for pressure for many of their pens and brushes, and they work just fine. I suspect something specific to the apps you use, or maybe a S-pen hardware setting.
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As above it IS pressure sensitive. Try using a 4B pencil in Sketchbook Pro. It's not as sensitive as other Note products but it definitely works.
Yes it is.
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P905, Sketchbook pro, single penstroke, original SPen (Because my Wacom stylus has gone MIA, I think I may have left it in Interlaken. F*ck!). Setting pencil 4.
It's pressure sensitive but it only seems to make a little difference, and it also depends on the brush you select.
You should also try and set the sensitivity right... just lift off the "little button" on the pen and under it there's a potentiometer, with a really small flat head screw driver turn it until you get sensitivity you like.
I had to virtually stab the screen for it to register, now it's a light glide.
ShadowLea said:
P905, Sketchbook pro, single penstroke, original SPen (Because my Wacom stylus has gone MIA, I think I may have left it in Interlaken. F*ck!). Setting pencil 4.
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which wacom stylus do you have (prior to leaving it ) i'm thinking about getting the bamboo feel, but wondering if i should pony up for the carbon model or get the one specifically for samsung note.
to be honest, i don't much care for the spen for note taking... i write very quickly and tiny-ly and its not quite a smooth experience (there's a very slight lag and it doesnt always register that i've lifted the pen from the screen). i'm hoping a stylus upgrade might do the trick. in your experience, does the wacom stylus offer a functional difference from the spen, or is it just better aesthetics / more comfortable?
thanks,
-lq
Hey guys thanks for the replies.
I found out my problem. I had the pen size in the app sketchbook set to all the way to the left so ultra thin, at that setting there is no different in the pen look. When I moved it up a little more (made it thicker) I could then use the pressure sensitive strokes.. I feel like an idiot but im happy I got it working
Thanks again for the replies. :cyclops:
rayone said:
It's pressure sensitive but it only seems to make a little difference, and it also depends on the brush you select.
You should also try and set the sensitivity right... just lift off the "little button" on the pen and under it there's a potentiometer, with a really small flat head screw driver turn it until you get sensitivity you like.
I had to virtually stab the screen for it to register, now it's a light glide.
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Standard required process for any Wacom pen since the very first Intuos. If you buy an Intuos, it's even part of the manual. (Or it used to be, anyway.) I've had to do it for all my Wacom pens. (Intuos 3, 4, Bamboo, Note 3, NotePro and now 2 Bamboo Feel stylusses.)
Although a good solid whack on a table's edge (or your flatmate/colleague's head, if they're being particularly insufferable) often also suffices. And no, that's not slang for 'hit it hard enough to shatter into a million pieces.'
For anyone interested in trying the official DI:, take care in removing the button, it jumps (several meters, I had to vacuum the carpet to find it.) and it's quite fragile. You can pop it off by carefully wedging the smallest flat screwdriver under the center of the button.
The Potentiometer(dial) is the one closest to the nib(tip). (leave the other one alone.)
It's highly sensitive, so make very small adjustments, test it while you're at it, and don't turn it more than 90 degrees. Click the button back in when you're satisfied. (it only fits one way)
What's interesting is that the optimal setting for my NotePro renders the pen nearly unresponsive on my Note 3. Odd, seeing as they use the same Spen and tech. (give or take a centimeter of additional plastic.)
The example I posted above was taken with the original Spen, adjusted via above method. (Not the viking method of bashing things.)
liquidquick said:
which wacom stylus do you have (prior to leaving it ) i'm thinking about getting the bamboo feel, but wondering if i should pony up for the carbon model or get the one specifically for samsung note.
to be honest, i don't much care for the spen for note taking... i write very quickly and tiny-ly and its not quite a smooth experience (there's a very slight lag and it doesnt always register that i've lifted the pen from the screen). i'm hoping a stylus upgrade might do the trick. in your experience, does the wacom stylus offer a functional difference from the spen, or is it just better aesthetics / more comfortable?
thanks,
-lq
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I've got the ordinary Bamboo Feel (for Galaxy Note). The Carbon edition is far too expensive for what is basically just a pen. If I could use it with my Intuos, I'd have bought it, but the tech is different and not compatible. Which sucks. Because I would've liked to use my Intuos pen... (Have just bought myself a new one to replace the Bamboo Feel I lost. Staples sells it for 3/4th of the price Wacom asks, so I ordered a second one, too. )
For me, the reason was simply that the Spen is too small and uncomfortable for extended periods of use.
The Bamboo Feel uses the exact same tip and tech as the Spen itself, so it doesn't make a spectacular difference. It's mostly more comfortable and pen-like. It makes writing a little easier because it's more normal to hold, but that's as far as the handwriting improvement goes. Any other effect is merely a placebo.
Still feels a bit too light in my hand for my taste, but that's just me nitpicking.
Personally I rarely use it for note taking. (Same problem, I write too fast as well.) I'm a designer, so my application of the pen is more artistic in nature. (that, and it does a brilliant job at keeping fingerprints off the gorgeous screen. Keeps my OCD happy.)
Hope that helps
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ShadowLea said:
I've got the ordinary Bamboo Feel (for Galaxy Note). The Carbon edition is far too expensive for what is basically just a pen. If I could use it with my Intuos, I'd have bought it, but the tech is different and not compatible. Which sucks. Because I would've liked to use my Intuos pen... (Have just bought myself a new one to replace the Bamboo Feel I lost. Staples sells it for 3/4th of the price Wacom asks, so I ordered a second one, too. )
For me, the reason was simply that the Spen is too small and uncomfortable for extended periods of use.
The Bamboo Feel uses the exact same tip and tech as the Spen itself, so it doesn't make a spectacular difference. It's mostly more comfortable and pen-like. It makes writing a little easier because it's more normal to hold, but that's as far as the handwriting improvement goes. Any other effect is merely a placebo.
Still feels a bit too light in my hand for my taste, but that's just me nitpicking.
Personally I rarely use it for note taking. (Same problem, I write too fast as well.) I'm a designer, so my application of the pen is more artistic in nature. (that, and it does a brilliant job at keeping fingerprints off the gorgeous screen. Keeps my OCD happy.)
Hope that helps
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thanks. i ended up getting the note version, not the carbon. it is definitely a lot more comfortable to use. as you mentioned, it does not offer any improvement in writing. i like that the cap has a clip on it. still a no-go for note taking unfortunately, but much better for doodling.
-lq
ChironexFleckeri said:
I hope I posted this in the correct place. I am new here. :victory:
I bought a new galaxy note pro 12.2 a few days ago and I noticed today (first time I got a chance to play with sketch book) that my s Pen seems to have zero pressure sensitivity. If I push light as possible down or with good amount of pressure I can not see any difference in the brush strokes or change at all. No matter how much or light I push down, no changes in the width or shading of the line. I then noticed using photo shop touch, the same thing.
So I start to think my pen nib is maybe broken so tried a different nib from the package.
No difference.
I also made sure the pen mode was enabled
No difference.
I talked with Samsung and the rep from samsung said this is normal, that the galaxy pro 12.2 is not pressure sensitive. I inquired why there are videos on the internet of people using pressure sensitive strokes in sketch and with some pressure they become deeper and thicker. Rep made up some answer saying that wasn't the same thing and doesn't really work. I hung up at that point.
So this leads me to asking the world. Is this normal? Should the 12.2 have pressure sensitivity when using artistic apps, or was samsung rep correct that it does not work on the 12.2? I wonder if something is wrong with the S pen or the tablet or maybe a setting?
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this thread got a bit derailed by all the talk about Bamboo wacom styluses...
anywho...
same problem. So it seems that the Samsung rep is correct when he says that there is no pressure sensitivity....but what he meant was in the S-pen and not referring to the tablet itself.
The tablet does have pressure sensitivity, by wacom digitizer, but the S pen strangely does not have pressure sensitivity at all.
Here's my story.
i previously owned the Galaxy Note 8.0, recently bought a 12.2 pro. i bought it used and it didn't come with its S pen. i had to buy a 12.2 S pen from another seller on ebay separately.
As i was drawing today i noticed for the first time that the 12.2 S pen had no pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
i then took my Galaxy Note 8.0's S-pen and drew on the 12.2 tablet to check if it was the tablet but nope. Perfect pressure sensitive screen test for the tablet. From super faint, super thin barely visible lines to thick heavy dark lines in the same stroke.
So i thought that maybe the pressure sensitivity had not been calibrated correctly on the 12.2 S pen so i decided to open the S pen by popping off the button cover to access its potentiometer(calibration) screws. Lo and behold no calibration screws!!!
i have known about Samsung Note S pen calibration screws since i calibrated my 8.0 tablet's S pen screw years ago. That's why i know.
Now, what i wanna know is if this is true for all of you guys.
Take an Xacto knife, or a razor or even a wristwatch screwdriver and carefully pop off your 12.2's S pen button and let me know what you see. If your S pen has the calibration/potentiometer screws or not.
Because if the S pen has no potentiometer screws then it does NOT have pressure sensitivity. Don't mistake an art app's pressure sensitivity to the S pen's. Its not the same thing. if you dont believe me buy a Note 8.0 S pen from ebay and use it on your 12.2 tablet and be prepared to be blown away by the difference. The difference is like night and day.
here are two vids showing you guys what i'm talking about.
https://youtu.be/beQq6-wr4i8?t=1m
and
https://youtu.be/uogMqjCX4ZM
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i also want to know after you check if your pen has the potentiometers is if your s pen is the original S pen that came with your brand new(not used) tablet or if your S pen was purchased seperately.
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Big Dawg 23 said:
I have the ATT Note Pro 12.2 and Note 3. My Note 3 is pressure sensitive but 12.2 is not. So the rep is correct in that the Note Pro 12.2 is not pressure sensitive.
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use the Note 3's S pen on the 12.2 tablet and you'll see the pressure sensitivity. Use the 12.2 S pen on the Note 3 and be....sorely disappointed
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What is the best S-pen replacement for long writing sessions? I did a good test drive with the S-pen today in a lecture, and while it was good, my little finger is cramped! I don't think this is a good thing in the long run. So, any suggestions on replacements. I'd like it if it is fairly inexpensive (around $30 is ok).
litetaker said:
What is the best S-pen replacement for long writing sessions? I did a good test drive with the S-pen today in a lecture, and while it was good, my little finger is cramped! I don't think this is a good thing in the long run. So, any suggestions on replacements. I'd like it if it is fairly inexpensive (around $30 is ok).
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I found this to work best:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...e=UTF8&qid=1380751991&sr=8-1&keywords=8pi+pen
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How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.
How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.
litetaker said:
How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.
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The 8pi is thicker than the built in pen, but may not be any heavier, it's still very light. I can't use the built in pen, it feels like writing with a toothpick. But I am comfortable using the 8pi.
The Bamboo pen is thicker and heavier than the 8pi, however most of the extra weight is in the cap, so I did not find it more comfortable. It does look better, and could be more comfortable if you have very big hands. I actually find the 8pi more comfortable. I live in the US, and the Bamboo Feel pen models sold on this side of the pond are different than those sold in Europe. Apparently you can get a Bamboo Feel Pen made to work with the Note 8 in Europe and have no offset. The Bamboo Feel models available in the US (even if they say they work with Samsung tablets), have a significant offset. By offset, I mean the pen doesn't write exactly where the tip touches the tablet. This offset can be reduced by shortening the plastic tip, but I was not able to eliminate it. Others (in Europe), report that a different model is sold there without this issue.
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The 8pi is thicker than the built in pen, but may not be any heavier, it's still very light. I can't use the built in pen, it feels like writing with a toothpick. But I am comfortable using the 8pi.
The Bamboo pen is thicker and heavier than the 8pi, however most of the extra weight is in the cap, so I did not find it more comfortable. It does look better, and could be more comfortable if you have very big hands. I actually find the 8pi more comfortable. I live in the US, and the Bamboo Feel pen models sold on this side of the pond are different than those sold in Europe. Apparently you can get a Bamboo Feel Pen made to work with the Note 8 in Europe and have no offset. The Bamboo Feel models available in the US (even if they say they work with Samsung tablets), have a significant offset. By offset, I mean the pen doesn't write exactly where the tip touches the tablet. This offset can be reduced by shortening the plastic tip, but I was not able to eliminate it. Others (in Europe), report that a different model is sold there without this issue.
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Thanks! That is very valuable information. I was checking the dimensions of the built in S-pen vs the 8pi S-pen and they seem very similar right? I think the built in one is just 0.1 inch thinner and 0.1 inch shorter. And I am guessing identical in weight. Is the 8pi really an upgrade?
litetaker said:
Thanks! That is very valuable information. I was checking the dimensions of the built in S-pen vs the 8pi S-pen and they seem very similar right? I think the built in one is just 0.1 inch thinner and 0.1 inch shorter. And I am guessing identical in weight. Is the 8pi really an upgrade?
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Hm, I thought there was a bigger difference than that. Maybe that's the difference from the built in pen included with the Note 10? That pen is bigger than the one in the Note 8.
I will post a picture of the Note 8 built in pen and the 8pi and Bamboo Feel side by side tomorrow after I get to work. I don't recall the 8pi being any shorter than normal pen, but it is slightly thinner. The Bamboo is slightly thicker than my typical pen at work. I guess it might help to include a pen and pencil in the pic for comparison.
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Hm, I thought there was a bigger difference than that. Maybe that's the difference from the built in pen included with the Note 10? That pen is bigger than the one in the Note 8.
I will post a picture of the Note 8 built in pen and the 8pi and Bamboo Feel side by side tomorrow after I get to work. I don't recall the 8pi being any shorter than normal pen, but it is slightly thinner. The Bamboo is slightly thicker than my typical pen at work. I guess it might help to include a pen and pencil in the pic for comparison.
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I would be delighted to see the comparison picture! I am in no hurry to buy the 8pi so I'll wait till you get the time to upload! In the meantime, I will try to learn the ropes of my newly acquired Note 8!
litetaker said:
I would be delighted to see the comparison picture! I am in no hurry to buy the 8pi so I'll wait till you get the time to upload! In the meantime, I will try to learn the ropes of my newly acquired Note 8!
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Here you go. I guess the 8pi is shorter than I remembered. I didn't have a longer pencil for comparison, sorry. I think it should still help to see it.
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Bamboo stylus feel
For anyone still looking for a replacement, the bamboo stylus feel works perfectly (link below) without any offset. IMO it works much better than the built in stylus, both in terms of holding/gripping it and in terms of sensitivity and precision and also the button is much easier to press and has a better tactile feel.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
The one sold on amazon is a different model(SKU:CS300UK) whereas the link above( SKU:CS300UK2) is the one for the galaxy note 8. This is the one that is 2mm shorter than the amazon or bestbuy version. And it comes in a blue and white box(as opposed to the black and white one for the former).
I had earlier bought the one from amazon too and that version has the offset everyone is talking about, but this one I bought directly from Wacom does not. Couldn't find this version sold anywhere else though( looked at bestbuy/ office depot)..
Hope this helps.
I have a few pens and I like two above the rest, because they are heavier and feel more like a real pen. I also have the 8pi and while the top end works as an eraser (a nice feature) overall it is just as light and flimsy as the included pen. Samsung released a stylus holder for the original Note (you might have to look for that on eBay now) that comes with an original stylus that you inser into the holder. You need to be a bit careful so the click buttons align up, but once it is installed it has a very nice feeling and you can easily use it for note taking during a few hours without your fingers cramping. A nice bonus is that you can use the small stylus as a replacement in a Note, if you have that model and would need it. It is then easy to replace that with an original stylus from Samsung.
The other pen is a BT stylus, hence you can use it for phone conversations, or Skype/Line as well. This one is a bit more expensive due to the BT feature, but it is also heavier and bigger, hence even more easy to use for long periods of Writing. I have actually used it for a six hour session once and neither my hand nor my fingers ever cramped. This is also a Samsung original, and you may have to get it from eBay because, while I'm not certain, I do believe that Samsung only released it for the Asian markets.
Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?
Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?
xclub_101 said:
Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?
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Yes, I have one, it is very comfortable and the phone support is quite good.
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Yes, I have one, it is very comfortable and the phone support is quite good.
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Thank you!
Is it detected even if the original pen is stored in the phone? And what happens when you have two pens near the screen?
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Thank you!
Is it detected even if the original pen is stored in the phone? And what happens when you have two pens near the screen?
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Never tried using two pens, not ambidextrous. You need to change your setting for pen so it detects even if you have the original in the silo. This draws a little more battery, but not that I have noticed it.
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I picked up the Bamboo Stylus Feel (model: CS300UKSP, blue white box, labeled as Bamboo Stylus Feel for Samsung Galaxy Note), and at least on CM11 and Civ5, there is at least a 1mm-2mm offset when the pen is tilted. More or less, it's present when using the stylus at diagonal rotations/angles, and is not present or is minimal enough to not matter when the stylus is rotated parallel to the tablet (or tablet's bezels, if that makes sense). It's not much of an annoyance in normal use, but it does bother with I'm doing some drawing/sketching/painting.
Image attached of how offset it is.
I have the BT S Pen HM5100 that has the bluetooth feature - you can have your phone linked to the BT and use the stylus on the tablet and answer your phone while writing on your tablet, the pen is comfortable if a little top heavy, but the bonus is that it has a greater range of sensitivity and you can draw a really thin line and increase pressure till it is thick, much better than the included s pen, you have to change settings so that the pen is recognised without the included s pen being removed so you can use it while the orignbal is docked, there is also a setting IIRC so that the power consumption is reduced whilei n this mode but dont quote me on that - all in all it is a useful extra - i was going to put mine on ebay as it came with my tablet but after using it , I decided to keep it I really like it
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For anyone still looking for a replacement, the bamboo stylus feel works perfectly (link below) without any offset. IMO it works much better than the built in stylus, both in terms of holding/gripping it and in terms of sensitivity and precision and also the button is much easier to press and has a better tactile feel.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
The one sold on amazon is a different model(SKU:CS300UK) whereas the link above( SKU:CS300UK2) is the one for the galaxy note 8. This is the one that is 2mm shorter than the amazon or bestbuy version. And it comes in a blue and white box(as opposed to the black and white one for the former).
I had earlier bought the one from amazon too and that version has the offset everyone is talking about, but this one I bought directly from Wacom does not. Couldn't find this version sold anywhere else though( looked at bestbuy/ office depot)..
Hope this helps.
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Just wanted to say thanks for this advice and share that I recently purchased this from the Wacom website. As you stated in your OP, the model ending in UK2 is NOT available on Amazon and I couldn't find it anywhere else besides the Wacom website. Now I can't say whether the model ending in 'UK' still has issues or not, but I didn't want to even take the chance.
So far, I love this. The accuracy is dead on, but most importantly the 'feel' is SO MUCH BETTER than the stylus that comes with the Note. I feel much more comfortable actually taking notes, and as a result my handwriting is easier to read. Consequently, I'm using the writing features more than ever.
It came with two replacement tips, but limited/no instructions. One is 'hard' and the other 'soft'; I'm not sure if the tip that was already installed is 'medium' or same as the 'hard' replacement, I haven't tested and I'm happy with the default, so probably won't anytime soon.
Only improvement suggestion would be to add an eraser, I really like that idea on one of Wacom's other styluses.
Only issue for me is figuring out how to store the stylus so it's always with the tablet. The stylus has a clip but I wouldn't take a chance clipping onto my case for fear of scratching the screen (somewhere someone posted about a holder they built, but unfortunately I don't have time for that).
Thanks for posting the pics, I ended up getting an 8pi and have been very happy with it. The Wacom models are probably even better if you don't mind the price, but for me the 8pi is a great value and a big improvement over the default stylus. I like how much larger diameter the 8pi is compared to the default, here is an image to help show the difference:
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Thanks for posting the pics, I ended up getting an 8pi and have been very happy with it. The Wacom models are probably even better if you don't mind the price, but for me the 8pi is a great value and a big improvement over the default stylus. I like how much larger diameter the 8pi is compared to the default, here is an image to help show the difference:
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Is this stylus accurate?
I've bought same stylus. However, there is 1 mm offset when I use it in S-Note. There is no such problem when I use stylus that comes with Note 8
I have been going in circles trying to find a compatible pen for my Note 8. Many that claim compatibility have an offset when in use. Pens that I have tried:
Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel CS300UK from Best Buy - 2mm offset & reported by many.
On order Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel CS300UK2 - said to be compatible.
Samsung S Pen and Holder Kit. <2mm offset.
The supplied pen & a replacement Galaxy Note 8 stylus work fine with no offset.
There is a good thread at xda regarding the same issues with the Galaxy Note 10.1. I am not sure if the information pertaining to the Note 10.1 can be applied to the Note 8.
BTW The offset is present with the 4 app that I have tried.
It would be nice to see a chart of compatible pens, listing various tablets & the cross platform compatibility of the pens. Many products are listed as "compatible with Samsung Galaxy Note", but there appears to be some variance between the Galaxy Note products related to this offset. Otherwise they work fine.
Thanks,
kev
I have just received a chinese replica I ordered a few days ago.
I wanted to have a replacement Spen which could fit the built-in hole, and of course It does fit. In fact is basically the same stylus without branding. The only issue with this Spen is the offset you mentioned above. All in all, mine doesn't have such a big offset, may be less than 1mm. The gap is so small that is very difficult to measure. I don´t regret the purchase, beside the fact that It only cost 6,19$.
I have attached some photos of the replica.
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I have just received a chinese replica I ordered a few days ago.
I wanted to have a replacement Spen which could fit the built-in hole, and of course It does fit. In fact is basically the same stylus without branding. The only issue with this Spen is the offset you mentioned above. All in all, mine doesn't have such a big offset, may be less than 1mm. The gap is so small that is very difficult to measure. I don´t regret the purchase, beside the fact that It only cost 6,19$.
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I got the same non-branded pens & they too suffered with too much offset for me. They also had a wobbly tip. I ended up with a Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. Had to order it from Wacom directly to get the version that works with the Note 8. The model number is CS300UK2. It must have the "2" to work with the Note 8. The ones at Best Buy & most other retailers are CS300UK. The "K" is for black, so the white one would be CS300UW2.
Cheers,
kev
I also bought a Chinese duplicate. However, my experience with it is not as great.
It is not a perfect fit into the slot. You hage to apply alot more pressure than you would for the Official pen to get it to fit fully snuggly.
It has also broke for me after about a month and is now completely unusable.
Am considering just getting a the Wacom Feel for Note devices. Please let me know how you are finding it!
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chzyken said:
I also bought a Chinese duplicate. However, my experience with it is not as great.
It is not a perfect fit into the slot. You hage to apply alot more pressure than you would for the Official pen to get it to fit fully snuggly.
It has also broke for me after about a month and is now completely unusable.
Am considering just getting a the Wacom Feel for Note devices. Please let me know how you are finding it!
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The Feel works well for me. As I mentioned, I had to get the right one. It feels better in the hand than the stock stylus & the tip (soft) is very smooth on the screen without feeling too slippery. Haven't tried the hard replacement supplied.
Kev
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
shaizil said:
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
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I'm actually looking for a stylus too but since we don't have the ability to support active pens using hardware I'm also stuck in a pinch like you since I want to take notes using it. I'm planning on kickstarting
DotPen. I removed the link since I don't know if I'm allowed to post it here but do a quick search on kickstarter website or google and it should pop up (by Dot-Tec).
hopefully it turns out well. I considered getting the adonit ones but their support emailed me back saying they built it with apple products in mind and cannot tell me how well it would be on an android tablet
Well, I came acroos a company called Dagi, they seem to make products very similar to Adonit, only they work with android as well.... see here
and here
It seems like the Dagi is on par with its counterpart and even slightly better.
It makes way less noise when writing, which is important. The Adonit makes so much noise its ridiculous... it sounds like someone is doing the dishes. the Adonit Jot script also has this metal tip which makes too much noise when wrting,
Dagi is a bit cheaper as well.
Anyway, I would really rather have a soft tip stylus purely due to the noise factor and "feel". I don't want to feel like I am about to harm the screen.... maybe when a glass screen protector comes out.
I am also looking for a stylus for writing and drawing and I have taken a look at the Dagi and Adonit. While they both seem to work very well my fear for buying either is the multiple reviews from many different sites about them scratching the screen... I thought about getting a Zagg screen protector but then there are reviews stating that they do not work well with those and I don't want to risk reducing the screen quality using one.
Are these reviews unfounded or does anyone have any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Grev
I'm having good results with an inexpensive Targus metal-barreled capacitive stylus. It has the big rubber tip but I've adjusted to it. I would like to try one of the 3mm capacitive stylus.
I use an ikross which can be found on either ebay or Amazon for about $8.00 and come packs of two. Also check the Samsung c-pen which also works really well. The great thing about these tablets, is that they use the same screens as the galaxy s5, s4, s3 rather than led screens which are very temperamental on which capacitive stylus work.
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i defo recommend an adonit jot pro - gunmetal!
ladaqiyah said:
i defo recommend an adonit jot pro - gunmetal!
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Are you using that stylus on the "S"? I only ask as my next question is to find out if it is scratching the screen?
Well, this sucks. One of my favorite features of the s5 is being able to write on the screen with a normal pencil, pen, whatever I have handy. Despite having the same "increase touch sensitivity" option in the tab s display settings it really doesn't work at all. Not sure what the technological difference is...
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No Wacom = crap, no matter what stylus you use.
Samsung C Pen
I've been looking for an option with a fine tip myself and noticed that Samsung offered a C Pen for the Galaxy S3. Well, I decided to get it and try it on my Tab S 8.4. I can say that it works well on the screen straight up, meaning no screen protector. I added an Illumishield Blue Light screen protector on it and it works but not quite as well as without. There seems to bee a little bit of "sticking" instead of gliding smoothly across the screen. This is of course the screen protectors issue and not the pen. I will swap it out once there is a tempered glass version available.
I can use it as a pointer and tap to launch and do things. In S Note, it works very well. I'd even say it works better in S Note than it does in Evernote at this point.
I think this is going to work out well. After all, it does have just a 3mm tip so you can see what you're actually doing and it's not nearly as expensive as most styli that are available.
-Cyber
3M Smart Pen
Wacom bamboo stylus solo 2
But still hope for new galaxy note 8.4 with an amoled screen.
I am using a simple capacitive stylus from Hama for EUR 4,99. Seems to be similar to the Bamboo solo. Works perfektly for taping. I had to set touch sensitivity to high in settings to use it reliably at quick swyping. Works like a charm then. Much better for my needs than inductive pens (have several other Tablets with those).
Disk stylus are fine for precise constructing and diagramming. For scribbling and most other regular work a simpler soft end stylus such as bamboo is better, imho.
there are many active stylus out there.
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I just ordered the Dart stylus which has a 2 mm fine tip and works with all the latest Windows, Android and Apple devices. It has ultra-precise tips to produce a fine line for drawing or sketching.
I need to take a lot of notes during the day as a physician and reading the online reviews of this stylus sold me hands down.
You can find it by googline the DART STYLUS FROM PRECISION TOUCH
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Samsung Galaxy S3 Galaxy C-Pen Stylus Pen works perfectly
The Samsung Galaxy S3 Galaxy C-Pen Stylus Pen works perfectly with the 8.4" Tab S. Though the product specs say it works only on S3, I tried it with the Tab S and it just glided.
The pen looks premium with a metal body and a hard tip. The hard tip gives it a nice feel while writing as compared to the usual hollow rubber tips.
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Samsung-ETC-...5756258/g.html
I found it lying in the corner in a mobile accessory shop and the shopkeeper was happy to get rid of the old stock for $15. Look around and you may find one.
It seems 'active stylus' is the future for all non-wacom devices.
Search for 'active stylus for ipad'. Add 'for ipad' for filtering out many wacom like products.
shaizil said:
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
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http://hex3.co/products/nota
vulcanvillalta said:
That is a nice stylus, but a little overpriced, don't you think?
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No, I don't. If you want cheap, you can go out and buy a standard stylus with a huge nib that won't let you draw (or write) with any real precision. There are plenty of those available on the market.
If you want quality, you have to pay for it. That's what you did buying this tablet, right?
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Like another poster previously suggested, a cheaper (but still good) alternative would be Samsung's C-Pen. You can get one for about $25-$30 on eBay.
Anyone else have experience with this pen on the Tab S?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251599913793?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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http://hex3.co/products/nota
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This will be another option to consider and a nice one. Thanks for posting it.:highfive:
I recently purchased a used note 10.1, and I must be doing something wrong. I tried searching for this question, but I could not find quite the same thing.
I got the note mostly because I have always wanted to have a tablet with a pressure sensitive stylus (s-pen), but they were out of my price range until recently.
I want to be able to put down a very thin line, and then be able to bring it up to a thicker line. I CAN do this in papyrus, beautifully and perfectly. But I cannot seem to do it to nearly the same quality in S Note, on the exact same tablet, in the tablet's native note software (the software the stylus was made to be used for).
I can put down a far more delicate line in papyrus. But with the exact same pressure, I lose the line entirely in S Note, as if I am not applying enough pressure to register the line. But the pressure is the same.
My question is...why is this? Am I doing something wrong? I want to be able to use S Note in all it's glory, with all of the cool integrative features, but I want the pen to perform as good as papyrus. I am aware that I can physically adjust the sensitivity of the pen by taking the button off, but then my notes would look bad in papyrus. Do I need to pull apart the s-pen and adjust the sensitivity for each individual program?
HELP! Very irritated by this.
Each app has it's own pressure sensitivity and filter settings. With Lecturenotes you can edit some of those settings.
About your issue, maybe buy another stylus and adjust it for Snote only?
Is there a root app that manages all that? A separate s-pen for different apps is an expensive choice.
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Video of difference
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Each app has it's own pressure sensitivity and filter settings. With Lecturenotes you can edit some of those settings.
About your issue, maybe buy another stylus and adjust it for Snote only?
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So I adjusted the pen with the instructions so that it is just less then marking when hovering, as soon as the pen makes contact it begins to mark, but then the slightest touch of the s-pen makes a comparably big fat line. I made a video showing the difference.
http://youtu.be/3ZaIuEkIBR4
What am I doing wrong? Does S-note just suck for everyone? Or just me?
So it turns out that the snote "pen" simply does not exhibit pressure sensitively. Pencil does. So I guess I'm stuck with a fuzzy line if I want pressure sensitivity. I wish I could download more writing implements. A gel tip or a calligraphy ps pen would be amazing. Oh well.
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So it turns out that the snote "pen" simply does not exhibit pressure sensitively. Pencil does. So I guess I'm stuck with a fuzzy line if I want pressure sensitivity. I wish I could download more writing implements. A gel tip or a calligraphy ps pen would be amazing. Oh well.
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Have you tried OneNote? Handwritting was added in the last update and it does what you want, nice pressure sensitivity writting.
Greetings! I am simply wondering if this tablet provides a decent drawing experience when compared to, say, the Galaxy Note line of products. I owned a Galaxy Note 8.0 which was wonderful, but after an unfortunate mishap, it's been rendered useless. I've been waiting for a tablet that is somewhat small, has an included stylus, and is very powerful (Stock Android is certainly another plus!). This seems to be the only device that fits the bill. I just want to know if actually feels like a pencil on paper from (hopefully) unbiased owners. I mainly intend to use ArtFlow and LayerPaint HD.
So nice to hear that there are people noticing that feature of the shield Tablet. So generally after some trys with different apps, Imo it works pretty well. But it can't be compared to an device with an active digitiser.
So you have your main focus on drawing. I would say you can have the same results as with an Spen for example. But you have to learn how to use the Direct Stylus.
In many reviews and threats & posts you will read about pressure sensitivity.
That not the truth. Direct stylus recognise the size of the tip touching the surface. There are two ways to achieve a bigger surface with this kind of stylus :
1. Press real hard on the display
That would be the normal "use" of an pen and an stylus with digitiser.
That is the reason you will read about flimsy tips of the stylus.
2. Twist the stylus while Drawing
When you take a look at the Tip of the stylus you can imagine, how the developers intend to use this kind of stylus .
For example when you want a decent line with a fine start, getting bigger till the end you have to start with the small tip and turn the stylus to a bigger spot.
l know it sounds unfamiliar, specially, when you are used to the Spen of Samsung, but after some tries it works quiet well.
As Nvidias CEO said during presentation , it depends on your personal skill..
Another important thing is the palm recognition.
It works most the time but it uses the same technique as pressure sensitivity. So it sometimes happen that when you lift or move your palm, You are giving an input. The best workaround is to activate the "stylus only mode " in the Menubar.
The annoying thing is, that you can't use pinch to Zoom or your Finger to move your workingsheet.
Hope I could give you a little clou on using the Direct Stylus on the shield Tablet.
If you got some more questions feel free to ask or pm me
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I use artflow on SHIELD and its ok. I love the stylus and it feels nice to draw with. Not sure if its the tablets senors or ArtFlow but sometimes it isnt accurate, where you think you're touching isn't what the tablet detects. I've only noticed this really with ArtFlow, Dabbler seems to be more accurate so I'm assuming its just the app itself. ArtFlow has rolled out updates for the Tegra k1 since I've downloaded it, so hopefully it gets better. I havn't tried Layer Paint yet.
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The annoying thing is, that you can't use pinch to Zoom or your Finger to move your workingsheet.
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Pinch Zoom works fine for me in Stylus only mode for ArtFlow. It is a tad buggy, sometimes instead of zooming/moving it acts as an eraser...which is odd. But the undo button fixes it. Its not perfect but it works for me.
Thank you so much guys! Could either of you test a pencil on the display? It works with the Tegra NOTE 7 and some other devices like the Galaxy S4/ S5. Make sure it's dull so you don't destroy your screen if you do try it.
What about small curls?
Hi, stylus lovers!
I have a question to owners of Shield Tablet.
Some time ago I've tested my colleague's Tegra Note 7 tablet (EVGA branded).
That tablet has Direct Stylus too. And it's stylus "engine" has an distressing flaw: it "eats" small curles. For example if I'm writing small handwritten letter "b" (the upper oval first and then the lower oval) the upper oval will be drawn in very reduced size, almost to dot. But the lower oval will be almost normal. It applies other letters with upper curls like handwritten "f", "h", "k" and "l" too.
(I hope, my explanation and my English is not very ugly.)
So, the question is how Shield Tablet's stylus behave in such situation? Can you just write some handwritten phrase in any drawing app and check out if small curles of letters were "eaten"?
Thanks!
That's a thing I noticed too. But I think I can explain a little bit about that.
First of all, what you experienced there is also to see when you are writing with for example an Spen. You just really have to take a close look.
To make the input look cleaner the software kind of renders the detected input and round it up to make it look more fluid.
The picture I posted is out of the App "Write ". There you have a setting where you can choose how much the input gets rounded.
l turned up the setting from No 1 to No 5. The movement on the screen was the same in every line.
So you can see how much influence an App setting can make .
So you can't say yes or no to your question. For me the standard Android handwriting recognition makes a really good job in terms of showing what's been written on the Display without the chicken influence
OneNote is imo an negative example for that.
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the software kind of renders the detected input and round it up to make it look more fluid
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Thank for quick reply!
I fully understand that moment. I've spent a lot of time with S-Pen (Note 8 and Note 10.1 2014) and Tegra Note 7 too.
And I can state: S-Pen is more laggy but it don't eats small curls as Tegra Note 7 stylus does.
I played with several drawing apps on Tegra Note 7 and all of them behaves similarly in curl eating.
There is one stylus sensivity setup option in Tegra Note 7 and it doesn't give any good effect for my interest.
I've forgot to say clearly: my interest is not in handwriting recognition. I just want to have precise drawing and handwriting.
So, the question is: does Direct Stylus in Shield Tablet eat curls less than in Tegra Note 7?
Obviously my question sounds whimsy. But I can't do anything with it. I want precise stylus.
No you don't. I really can understand you. Had the same headache.
On shield tablet l can't find a setting like you mentioned.
I really would like to post some examples but the App won't let me do this for you. So I would say order it and try it on your own. Maybe you find a shop with an good return policy?
I can make thinks look like been eaten up but with the same app l can write the best texts. There it really depends on the kind of pencil & brush and thickness you choose ...
Really sorry mate
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So the stylus in the shield isn't active? It's just like any other capacitive stylus that emulates a finger, maybe a bit better?
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So the stylus in the shield isn't active? It's just like any other capacitive stylus that emulates a finger, maybe a bit better?
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It's way way better.
Due to some Tegra's digitizing magic the Direct Stylus 2 performs like an active stylus. The most valuable advantage of Direct Stylus 2 over other capasitive stylus digitizers is very high sensivity and selectivity.
Here is good video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaRT0E-RTPQ
And here is a video on older Tegra Note 7 (with an older Direct Stylus digitizer) digitizer comparison with S-Pen digitizer on Galaxy Note 8 and capasitive sensor of Nexus 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZz4PjcAUk
@Kirrrr Thanks for the videos. It seems to me like they optimized the ability for the touchscreen digititzer to pick up the size of a touch. The soft tip of the pen changes its size depending on the way you hold it and the pressure. Reporting of touch size is actually build in to android. I tested it and different fingers report different sizes. My pinky 1 - 2, forefinger 2 - 4 and thumb 3 - 5. I think that lots of drawing apps don't take advantage of this because the variance is so small when using the same finger. It seems like they where using a customized version of sketchbook that actually takes the touch size into account. I doubt the tip is going to last long and it didn't look like the tip is replacable. Software wise what they did is impressive, but I think I'm going to skip this tablet.