Quick question guys, im thinking in buying today the microsoft surface 2 (none pro) with windows RT can i install the standard windows 8.1 so i can download any apps i want as oppose to the windows store? If not then i was thinking in the asus t100, whats your thoughts on this?
Windows 8.1 RT working on ARM CPU. Windows 8.1 working on x86-64 CPU. The answer is no.
Yep. May as well ask if you can buy an iPad and install OS X on it so you can run software that isn't in the iOS app store. Sigh...
DoN7B1ink said:
Quick question guys, im thinking in buying today the microsoft surface 2 (none pro) with windows RT can i install the standard windows 8.1 so i can download any apps i want as oppose to the windows store? If not then i was thinking in the asus t100, whats your thoughts on this?
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You certainly can not. An ARM processor is very different from an x86 processor. Go for a Surface Pro. They're fantastic.
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Hello there,
I am not too sure if this is a vague questions however I was wondering if an Asus Transformer tablet can be made dual bootable with Android and Windows 7?
Has any one tried or thought of it or heard about it or if it do-able, please let me know.
Cheers,
Ashish
No. I believe our tabs run ARM, whilst Windows is coded to run on x86/64 architecture.
Thanks Chris, for your reply. is there a possibility to dual boot Android and Windows Phone 7 on Asus Transformer?
Thanks in advance,
Ashish
no WP7 is closed source. It also only supports 512 mb ram and a single core processor
It's exactly this sort of naive question that means Microsoft will able to sell more than 10 Windows 8 tablets.
It won't run Windows 7 because it runs ARM CPU. And Windows 8 tablets won't run windows applications for the very same reason.
Why do you guys want windows 7 on a tablet? I have played once with Win 7 tablet and it's pretty awkward though it's very nice to have the programs you use on your PC.
Hi all. Im sure that Surface is powerful device.I am a developer and I use VS and SQL server.I'm asking to you guys that surface can work well? I mean,for instance,Im working on a project on my desktop with these programs,can I be able to run my project in surface perfectly?
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I'm almost sure that you won't be able to use those on the RT ARM version (AFAIK there aren't even ARM versions of VS and MSSQL, at the moment).
Also, Visual Studio is something badly heavy... so I doubt that they will compile it for the ARM tablet.
About the x86 Surface, well, it's an Core i5, 64bits! There will run almost everything.
If it works on any windows 8 i5 laptop, it will work in surface pro. Avoid surface RT like the plague though.
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If it works on any windows 8 i5 laptop, it will work in surface pro. Avoid surface RT like the plague though.
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Maybe in the future there might be an Visual Studio Express addition for Windows RT.
They managed to port entire kernal from x86 to ARM and VS is a x86.
But the biggest problem is probably legacy DLLs and realy old stuff, that is probably not ported to new core OS.
That means, Microsoft needs to figure out, how to enable ARM desktop development without those old stuff.
I think this is the primary reason, why Windows RT desktop isn't opened for 3rd party developers.
They probably rewrote only specific DLLs to ARM, just enough to make Office work.
I wish, but however seems very unlikely! Personally wouldn't want to use a tablet to code on anyways. but would be fun for little things!
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Hi all. Im sure that Surface is powerful device.I am a developer and I use VS and SQL server.I'm asking to you guys that surface can work well? I mean,for instance,Im working on a project on my desktop with these programs,can I be able to run my project in surface perfectly?
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Well you can use visual studio for windows 8, and then compile it for ARM, using the remote debugger which you install on windows RT. But it can only develop metro apps.
The only way to use VS and MS SQL on Surface RT at the moment is via Remote Desktop
Surface Pro will run everything (though of course it's thicker, heavier, and won't last as long on battery).
I use RemoteApps for SQL Server Management Server, IIS, and more. It works beautifully.
I haven't tried Visual Studio yet.
Thank you OP. I wanted to ask the same question. In addition to that, does the W8 RT have an emulator to mount .img's? If so, you can use the 2008 Visual Studios image file. it works well with my android tab
Hi, I am not professional but as I read the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!
Is it possible to install Win 8 on a asus transformer.
please guide me
thank you
No, it's not possible. Windows 8 is not Windows RT. The processor would be compatible with RT, but the rest of the hardware is not, and you cannot buy Windows RT without the hardware it is preinstalled on anyway.
And Windows 8 RT needs an special locked boodloader (like the Ipad for example).
But maybe there will some day ab cracked windows 8 rt version wich run on devices without an secure bootloader. But my personal meening is, that the TF101 will never run windows rt. It is an old Android Tablet with old hardware and the Tf101 community shrinks.
Any one know is it possible to install ubuntu for tablets on Surface or Asus vivo tab? Any work in this direction?
are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.
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are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.
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Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?
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Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?
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UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.
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UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.
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Thanks for your feedback :good:
I think this answer make it clear for at lease me
Hello.
We all know surface RT tablets won't get Windows 10 :/
Have hou ever heard of anyone being able to Install win10 mobile on surface RT ?
There are a lot of functionnality That would be missed, but given the state of the Windows Store on w8 and w10, I would guess There would be a few gains.
Both being ARM OSes, wouldn't it work ?
yeah, but will MS invest in building and testing it for Surface RT/2? nope.