"From what I have read, LG, at AT&T' s request, hardware disabled Qi charging on the AT&T variant. The only way to do this is to get the pma circle case, take the the reciever out and put it onto the original battery cover."
UPDATE: the international coil stickers that have the CORRECT contact placement do not work with our AT&T G3's when using the correct PMA charger: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54378115&postcount=57
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Our AT&T LG G3 D850 model is the one marked "Not compatible"
Here is the official G3 slim hard case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Official...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item1c433e4848
LG Slim Hard Case:
LG Slim Guard Case:
I have not heard from anywhere that LG will be making their amazing beautiful case for our AT&T model. The mission is to find a backing and/or charging coil pad that is compatible to our matching charging shape (NFC + wireless charging = total of 4 connections with bigger gap in middle)
A quick search for PMA, Powermat charging stations on Amazon shows a decent one from Duracell:
http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Powe...F8&qid=1406162696&sr=8-1&keywords=pma+charger
So no problem finding one of those.
Now that we know exactly which time of connection we need let's update here and see what we find for our G3s :good:
From what I have read, LG, at AT&T' s request, hardware disabled Qi charging on the AT&T variant. The PMA standard charges at a higher voltage than Qi. G3 battery covers that support Qi charging don't work with the AT&T variant. What is lacking for PMA charging is a choice of battery covers or just a reciever that one could put under the stock battery cover. The only way to do this is to get the pma circle case, take the the reciever out and put it onto the original battery cover.
Seems in the US, we have the inductive standard and a magnetic resonance standard. The resonance model seems superior at the moment. Both groups have joined to try to influence a world wide standard. Texas Instruments has a hardware chipset that can function with both Qi or PMA standard. Now to get someone to build a damn phone worth buying with this tech would bring it all full circle.
I think some of the reasons that PMA recievers aren't available like Qi recievers, is licensing.
sailindawg said:
From what I have read, LG, at AT&T' s request, hardware disabled Qi charging on the AT&T variant. The PMA standard charges at a higher voltage than Qi. G3 battery covers that support Qi charging don't work with the AT&T variant.
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Thanks, edited.
Seems to me if you used the qi charging sticker and adapted the contracts to match (creating the needed gap in the middle) it should work fine
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screwyluie said:
Seems to me if you used the qi charging sticker and adapted the contracts to match (creating the needed gap in the middle) it should work fine
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This is the ghetto yet only possible option we have.... the stupid spaced gap in the middle of the 4 contacts. wondering if the S5 stickers will work for at least the wireless charging, since the 2 contacts are for nfc and the other 2 are for wireless charging!
chillsen said:
This is the ghetto yet only possible option we have.... the stupid spaced gap in the middle of the 4 contacts. wondering if the S5 stickers will work for at least the wireless charging, since the 2 contacts are for nfc and the other 2 are for wireless charging!
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Take a look over at the original G3/Assecories threads. Is all been tried and failed for the reasons I've mentioned above. Kind of stinks, but there are work arounds. Am I happy with it, no. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops for wireless charging. Yes we are first adopters & like cell service in the US, it's multiple competing standards backed by differing corporate entities.
Care to enlighten me a to why it wouldn't work? Yo your "above" doesn't cover what I'm suggesting
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Care to enlighten me a to why it wouldn't work? Yo your "above" doesn't cover what I'm suggesting
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Just spent an hour reading on the general Accessories page. I guess the coils that have the correct contacts don't work with Powermats. They tried it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54378115&postcount=57
Those people seem to want to use international pma stickers... Which baffles me why and also why it wouldn't work.
What I want to do is use the qi sticker, modified to add the gap, on an att phone
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screwyluie said:
Those people seem to want to use international pma stickers... Which baffles me why and also why it wouldn't work.
What I want to do is use the qi sticker, modified to add the gap, on an att phone
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Do a search on PMA VS qi and your questions will be answered. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but this topic was covered pretty well. The original G3 forum was first, this forum was started well after the original. It is missing some good info regarding this particular matter.
sailindawg said:
Do a search on PMA VS qi and your questions will be answered. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but this topic was covered pretty well. The original G3 was first, this forum was started well after the original. It is missing some good info regarding this particular matter.
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If you have some key piece of information I'd love to hear it, but it seems to me a qi coil + a qi charger = power. All we need to do is get the contacts in the right place and the power will go to the battery.
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Knock yourself out dood
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Knock yourself out dood
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I would love to, but aliexpress has issues with washington:
3. Fail to place order due to Washington address
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it's not expensive, I'm hoping someone else will follow through with my ideas.
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If you have some key piece of information I'd love to hear it, but it seems to me a qi coil + a qi charger = power. All we need to do is get the contacts in the right place and the power will go to the battery.
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Take a minute to read through this whole thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/accessories/d850-qi-charging-mod-t2809994
The thread should have been migrated to the AT&T section to clear up any misinformation but it's still in the general section.
Everything has already been tried, only possible solution is probably something like what some folks have done to the Nokia 1520 > hardware transplant.
So there's a wireless communication protocol in both standards. I would guess it's being disabled on a software level since all the hardware other than the coil seems to be the same on the phone.
Perhaps if we ever get the bootloader unlocked this could change...
That's a good thread, thank you.
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I'm still confident that Qi is disabled via software and can be somehow be enabled. I get that the lumia was hardware but that has been proven, too many post saying its hardware with the G3 D850 without any proof.
screwyluie said:
If you have some key piece of information I'd love to hear it, but it seems to me a qi coil + a qi charger = power. All we need to do is get the contacts in the right place and the power will go to the battery.
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I found and bought a qi battery cover and have a qi charger...where the contacts align...no dough... I also have a qi sticker that plugs into microusb...that works because it's converting qi induction to standard micro usb.
For the 850, you will have to have use a pma coil to run wireless charging thru those contacts.
derekedw said:
I found and bought a qi battery cover and have a qi charger...where the contacts align...no dough... I also have a qi sticker that plugs into microusb...that works because it's converting qi induction to standard micro usb.
For the 850, you will have to have use a pma coil to run wireless charging thru those contacts.
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I know it's not a big deal but this is one of the reasons I haven't jumped on the G3 yet. I really like it except for this and some of the rumored performance/battery issues. I don't even care if I have to use PMA and replace all my charging pads but that circle case can't be my only choice!?!?
mario23 said:
I know it's not a big deal but this is one of the reasons I haven't jumped on the G3 yet. I really like it except for this and some of the rumored performance/battery issues. I don't even care if I have to use PMA and replace all my charging pads but that circle case can't be my only choice!?!?
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I made the jump from my N5, S5 and M8. I truly enjoy wireless charging, but this phone was too nice. I'm glad I made the switch. It does stink that the only choice is the Folio case. However, if you do need the wireless charging, you'll want to continue holding off as you have.
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I think there will be more choices eventually....att is going to sell enough it will be worth it
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My only complaint with my Photon Q so far is not having a removable battery.
I was thinking of picking up this Anker or the cheap Chinese knockoff I saw on Ebay.
Any opinions based on experience with any of these "power banks"?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K7192G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160872392435?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HUTXV8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=A2KUZVNQ9LP7N9
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tt c6 said:
My only complain with my Photon Q so far is not having a removal battery.
I was thinking of picking up this Anker or the cheap Chinese knockoff I saw on Ebay.
Any opinions based on experience with any of these "power banks"?
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Personally, If I forget to charge the phone I've forgotten to charge the backup battery as well. You've also got the added bonus of always having to carry a usb cable around with you!
I don't know if I'd place much trust in the chinese knockoff but I guess its always hit or miss.
I bought a usb charging wrist strap on thinkgeek mostly cause its versatility seemed neat, connectors for all sorts of devices. I sadly was using a blackberry at the time but it charged it perfectly fine, the shift and photon don't charge with it for long, like 1-2 percent and then act like its disconnected. I haven't tried with the phones off, it may possibly work fine if the phone is powered off.
KitsunePaws said:
Personally, If I forget to charge the phone I've forgotten to charge the backup battery as well. You've also got the added bonus of always having to carry a usb cable around with you!
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I was looking at the same battery pack. I might jump on it. If you get the next level up as well you get $10 off on amazon. (This only is in consideration for me since my friend needs one too...) So $75 for both the 5600mah model and 8400mah.
I never really forget to charge my phone...it just runs out. My Epic was not the best...I always kept a spare battery around and I'd need it even on normal days. So I guess I have to get an external one like this. I guess it's more versatile in the end.
Oh right and as for the knockoff, I'm usually all for trying them but this one doesn't seem cheaper enough for me to get it. Since I'd just be carrying it around a lot for emergencies (or, long days) I'd want something I think I can trust to hold a charge for maybe a month without me checking on it.
duracell powersource mini
i have the Duracell powersource mini it does it job, it will fully charge the photon q from 20 to about 90% but that is also with the phone on, so it is still using the battery while it is charging also, and i like it, if you check around at some of the truck stops, they will have them, i got 5 for 7 dollars each
I have the RAVPower and it really saved me at Comic-Con. Fully charged my XT910 MAXX twice and had a bit left over!
I love my Tylt, pricey but worth every penny to me
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903tex said:
I love my Tylt, pricey but worth every penny to me
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According to their website, the Tylt only has 1500mah compared to the 5600mah of the Anker.
If this is true, the Tylt = FAIL.
I have a tylt purchased from sprint store that is 5400 mAh and its been real great addition to have but honestly this phone gets double what my my 1800mAh batts I got for the epic gave me.
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tt c6 said:
According to their website, the Tylt only has 1500mah compared to the 5600mah of the Anker.
If this is true, the Tylt = FAIL.
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WRONG! The tylt we sell in the store has 5600mah capacity! And you can use it with multiple kind of devices and charge two of those devices at the same time
Tylt= win!
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903tex said:
WRONG! The tylt we sell in the store has 5600mah capacity! And you can use it with multiple kind of devices and charge two of those devices at the same time
Tylt= win!
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If you have links to the information you claim, why don't you post it up instead of calling me "wrong" ???
PS.
I was not wrong.
I posted "according to their website" and "if this is true".
Their official site did not have the info you are claiming.
tt c6 said:
If you have links to the information you claim, why don't you post it up instead of calling me "wrong" ???
PS.
I was not wrong.
I posted "according to their website" and "if this is true".
Their official site did not have the info you are claiming.
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Just to play devil's advocate in fairness to 903, you didn't provide a link to said official site and the information you referenced yourself either, and even with the qualifiers, the all-caps 'FAIL' descriptor could also be interpreted as a bit aggressive from the start. You could have instead simply said 'If this is true, then it appears to me that the Anker is a better/superior solution' or something along those lines.
Not trying to help facilitate an argument here by any means, just saying there's 2 ways of looking at either post, and regardless, there's no real need for anyone to get their feathers ruffled IMO.
tt c6 said:
If you have links to the information you claim, why don't you post it up instead of calling me "wrong" ???
PS.
I was not wrong.
I posted "according to their website" and "if this is true".
Their official site did not have the info you are claiming.
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Want prove Here you go......
http://www.tylt.com/powerplant/index.html
And its 5200 thought it was 5600 I stand corrected on that.
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Just to play devil's advocate in fairness to 903, you didn't provide a link to said official site and the information you referenced yourself either, and even with the qualifiers, the all-caps 'FAIL' descriptor could also be interpreted as a bit aggressive from the start. You could have instead simply said 'If this is true, then it appears to me that the Anker is a better/superior solution' or something along those lines.
Not trying to help facilitate an argument here by any means, just saying there's 2 ways of looking at either post, and regardless, there's no real need for anyone to get their feathers ruffled IMO.
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He/she never post their "claim" information saying that they went to tylt official website yet it took me 15 seconds to:
Go to tylt official website
Copy the link to power plant
Go to xda app
And paste the site for everybody to see
Lol I would love to see the page he/she went to cause if they would have went to the official website they would have saw the powerplant......
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Neither of you made mention of the model until now. One could have been looking at the Zumo and the other the powerplant. Does it really matter though guys?
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Neither of you made mention of the model until now. One could have been looking at the Zumo and the other the powerplant. Does it really matter though guys?
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From my logic why would I mention a battery that wasn't similar to the discussion? Not trying to start anything just stating...
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903tex said:
From my logic why would I mention a battery that wasn't similar to the discussion? Not trying to start anything just stating...
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Logic doesn't always apply when talking about people. Was a simple misunderstanding, no point in continuing past that.
Some of these posts make me laugh......
Regardless, the Tylt that was introduced by 903tex is a BRICK compared to the Anker.
The comparable sized Tylt to the Anker is obviously the one I was talking about and I provided the link below.
The Tylt with similar exterior dimension to the Anker is 1500 mah and is a fraction of the 5600mah provided by the similarly sized Anker.
So, the Tylt IS a FAIL.
http://www.tylt.com/zumo/index.html
Best Buy has a version of the Anker called a "AGPtek" on their website.
But, it appears to be sold by a 3rd party on Best Buy's website.
Can anyone explain this?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AGPtek+...5470141&skuId=5582845&st=power bank&cp=1&lp=1
tt c6 said:
Some of these posts make me laugh......
Regardless, the Tylt that was introduced by 903tex is a BRICK compared to the Anker.
The comparable sized Tylt to the Anker is obviously the one I was talking about and I provided the link below.
The Tylt with similar exterior dimension to the Anker is 1500 mah and is a fraction of the 5600mah provided by the similarly sized Anker.
So, the Tylt IS a FAIL.
http://www.tylt.com/zumo/index.html
Best Buy has a version of the Anker called a "AGPtek" on their website.
But, it appears to be sold by a 3rd party on Best Buy's website.
Can anyone explain this?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AGPtek+...5470141&skuId=5582845&st=power bank&cp=1&lp=1
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Smdh whatever you say bro. I go with my tylt thats give me three full charges before i need to charge it again....
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I ordered the Anker from Amazon and I'm happy with it.
It easily fits in my front pocket with my wallet and keys and it charges the Moto Q in about the same time as a wall charger.
I just place the Anker on a desk/table/bar and and lean the Moto Q on it while it's charging like a prop stand. Pretty inconspicuous and convenient.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K7192G/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
I guess i got lucky. Last year i saw one on slickdeals by P/A tech (some knockoff) but its 11000mAh and has a 1A and a 2A charge port. I can charge my phone in like 2 hours on the 2A port and get 4-5 charges out of the battery pack. Best part is, on the deal it was like $25. If you have the patients, watch those sites. A lot of stuff that comes up is junk but every once in a while you find gold.
UPDATE (7/31): Ideas have been scrapped, funding a complete project instead
UPDATE (6/15): Possible alternative solution in the works
UPDATE (6/13): Quick Details
UPDATE (6/6): Photos on this post
Hey guys,
So if anyone you follow me closely, you guys will know that I'm a big fan of wireless charging accessories (especially when it comes to making things universal). Being the big supporter that I am, I have wireless charging pads in multiple locations employed as I am trying to go completely cable-less. However, there has always been one thing missing that would be able to truly make this wireless charging experience complete; and that is a Wireless Charging Car Dock.
Well luckily ladies and gentleman, after hours of searching, I have found us a great solution to that problem!
This is a combination of a product that is brought to you by one of our own members here at XDA: Original Thread Here
This is called the Owl Carpad Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount - Sale Link for Galaxy S III
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In addition with another product:
This is called the Samsung S4 Wireless Receiver (confirmed with NFC working) - Sale Link (Video Review)
Or another listing of Samsung S4 Wireless Receiver (thinnest with NFC working) - Sale Link (Video Review)
Or official Samsung Galaxy S4 Wireless Charging Back Cover - Black or White
The great thing about this wireless charging receiver/insert is that you can use ANY battery cover with it (stock, flip cover, S-View cover, etc...) and the Galaxy S III OWL Carpad should be compatible with the Galaxy S4.
If anyone wants this solution, I have currently purchased the Galaxy S III OWL Carpad and preordered the Galaxy S4 wireless charging kit and will be testing as soon as I receive it and will be sure to let you guys know but I am quite confident that these will be compatible.
Please feel free to voice your comments/question below.
Looking forward to the review! Make sure you include a long drive in it running GPS and see if it charges up the phone or loses battery - I really want to love wireless charging, but it seems like it's just limited to home use right now because it will only do 1A and this phone really does need 2A to get it charged!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Looking forward to the review! Make sure you include a long drive in it running GPS and see if it charges up the phone or loses battery - I really want to love wireless charging, but it seems like it's just limited to home use right now because it will only do 1A and this phone really does need 2A to get it charged!
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Definitely, I will likely be using this as a daily driver so will let you guys know. :good:
open1your1eyes0 said:
Definitely, I will likely be using this as a daily driver so will let you guys know. :good:
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Cant wait! If it actually charges while screen is on and GPS and Mobile Data is being used I will definitely do this in my car!
Found a new link for a Samsung Galaxy S4 Receiver that is currently available! - Link (Added to OP)
The pad insert on ebay says its 500mA. Is that normal for qi pads?
Do u think that higher ones would be available later?
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demusss said:
The pad insert on ebay says its 500mA. Is that normal for qi pads?
Do u think that higher ones would be available later?
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500mA is a little bit on the low side but I think they put that there as a general estimate. I see another sale put one of the same but rated in description 500mA to 700mA. See Here
There's also this one but can't tell what they rate it for.
How thick of case?
open1your1eyes0 said:
Hey guys,
So if anyone you follow me closely, you guys will know that I'm a big fan of wireless charging accessories (especially when it comes to making things universal). Being the big supporter that I am, I have wireless charging pads in multiple locations employed as I am trying to go completely cable-less. However, there has always been one thing missing that would be able to truly make this wireless charging experience complete; and that is a Wireless Charging Car Dock.
Well luckily ladies and gentleman, after hours of searching, I have found us a great solution to that problem!
This is a combination of a product that is brought to you by one of our own members here at XDA: Original Thread Here
In addition with another product by a company called WiQiQi: Original Site Here or Ebay Link Here (Added 5/16)
This is called the Owl Carpad Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount - Sale Link for Galaxy S III
This called the WiQiQi Samsung S4 Wireless Charger Set - Sale Link for Galaxy S4
Or another listing for Samsung S4 Wireless Receiver - Select Samsung S4 Receiver from dropdown
The great thing about this wireless charging receiver/insert is that you can use ANY battery cover with it (stock, flip cover, S-View cover, etc...) and the Galaxy S III OWL Carpad should be compatible with the Galaxy S4.
If anyone wants this solution, I have currently purchased the Galaxy S III OWL Carpad and preordered the Galaxy S4 wireless charging kit and will be testing as soon as I receive it and will be sure to let you guys know but I am quite confident that these will be compatible.
Please feel free to voice your comments/question below.
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How thick of a case could you get away with? I am shopping for a good rugged case, I am really hard on phones.
did it work
was wondering if you had a chance to try this out an if the charge is enough to keep your phone going?
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was wondering if you had a chance to try this out an if the charge is enough to keep your phone going?
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Just received my phone today, still waiting on the receiver and car dock.
I'm looking forward to your review I have been interested in the wireless charging from wiqiqi and how it works.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Just received my phone today, still waiting on the receiver and car dock.
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Appreciate you posting this- this is my BIG quandry- replacing my car and Desktop dock. I plan to use a Otterbox commuter case. Some you tube's are out there on HTC DNA showing wireless works even with a Defender.
Wondering if you plan to use a case and if there is a recommendation for a desk dock - or should I just use the car dock on my desk?
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How thick of a case could you get away with? I am shopping for a good rugged case, I Apr event ard on phones.
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This is what I'm wondering too.
I've read about chargers that could work up to one and a half inches while others say "any" added case will prevent charging.
windstrings said:
This is what I'm wondering too.
I've read about chargers that could work up to one and a half inches while others say "any" added case will prevent charging.
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There is a 26 minute video of the guy trying this charger out. It appears that with GPS and Screen on you will hold charge and maybe charge at 100mA. The connector is also coax, not USB so i will need to redo my wiring job i did so I do not have to use a cigarette lighter. Also much was made about it getting hot with GPS on and to stick it by the AC vent.
My Droid X (replacing) got smoking hot anytime GPS was on anyway and with a wired charger- maybe charged at 1% per 20 minutes.
It comes form Korea by a couple fo guys it appears. So it looks like you need to order the dock and the S4Qi kit for the phone. I am still looking for what the best desk dock is because I need to use it for work phone (speaker mode required)
Received my Qi receiver, NFC antenna extender, and wireless charging pad yesterday.
The actual wireless charging car dock should be coming in tonight! Will get more pics for you guys.
Also added more receivers to OP.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Received my Qi receiver, NFC antenna extender, and wireless charging pad yesterday.
The actual wireless charging car dock should be coming in tonight! Will get more pics for you guys.
Also added more receivers to OP.
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the design of the receiver on the phone looks better than previous- wider at base and looks like adhesive for it as well?
What is the rating of the charger?- 1500mA?- will be interesting to see if GPS+Screen still allows a slight charge.
also any ideas for a deck dock would be appreciated- iI have a otterbox commuter case
Have some photos for you guys on next post
EDIT: Didn't get a chance to test it today because the receiver I have doesn't align properly with the dock so it doesn't charge. Confirmed with the seller which receiver works and purchased that one. Should be coming next week.
You need to use a specific receiver?
Which one is recommended?
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Looks like it's 1A output which is below the 1.5 amp on other wireless chargers. I ma not expert by any stretch but from what i researched that means ~700mA to the phone. Another version put 1A actually to the phone and with GPS on and screen it made 1%/10min charge,
Here is the 1A reciever which usually goes with a 1.5A charger http://www.ecrater.com/p/18004506/qi-standard-wireless-charger-charging?gps=1&id=52211034499
Seems like this will hold but not actually charge with GPS and screen- will be interesting to see.
I have found a desk charger I may get - but it's 1A which may be ok since i won't have GPS on at the house
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
Just pulled it apart, has a wireless charging sticker already installed. Didn't think the AT&T version got it.
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Just pulled it apart, has a wireless charging sticker already installed. Didn't think the AT&T version got it.
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NFC sticker.. sorry to burst your bubble
Damn that's a huge nfc sticker
Plus it's only got two prongs those are for the NFC the other ones are for charging. The way I have been told if there are all 4 prongs then you got NFC and wireless charging.
You can do wireless charging you just have to use the LG Quickview case and the Duracell powermat. It'll only cost about $109 from an Att store. Im pondering it simply because the usb cable is a ***** to plug in.
Kmac_thp said:
You can do wireless charging you just have to use the LG Quickview case and the Duracell powermat. It'll only cost about $109 from an Att store. Im pondering it simply because the usb cable is a ***** to plug in.
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Just tilt the cable ever do slightly and it goes right in. Also you can just order the right wireless back from online and install it In your phone...multiple threads on that.
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Kmac_thp said:
You can do wireless charging you just have to use the LG Quickview case and the Duracell powermat. It'll only cost about $109 from an Att store. Im pondering it simply because the usb cable is a ***** to plug in.
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They did that **** on purpose. I feel like the stupid thing breaks every time it gets plugged in. I thought I was the only one.
drwario said:
They did that **** on purpose. I feel like the stupid thing breaks every time it gets plugged in. I thought I was the only one.
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Your not the only one ?
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neo4uo said:
Plus it's only got two prongs those are for the NFC the other ones are for charging. The way I have been told if there are all 4 prongs then you got NFC and wireless charging.
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Is it possible to order a replacement international or Korean back?
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Is it possible to order a replacement international or Korean back?
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It wouldn't wirelessly charge our AT&T phones bc our version uses PMA charging. everyone else has Qi charging. Those backplates are not compatible with the PMA charger bases
So it's not just a matter of how the chip in the back cover provides power to the pins? There's different internals or software regarding charging on the att g3? How are people buying qi chips and installing them? Or am I wrong on that?
Shoot. So the NFC chip isn't in the battery? Meaning if I use a case that replaces the back cover I lose NFC? That's less than ideal.
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I picked up a circle case from aliexpress that *says* it does NFC and qi charging with the d850. Unfortunately I can't post the link because of forum restrictions but search aliexpress for lg g3 quick circle case.
Still waiting for it to arrive. Was definitely worth the price to me to try...
hcd00045 said:
I picked up a circle case from aliexpress that *says* it does NFC and qi charging with the d850. Unfortunately I can't post the link because of forum restrictions but search aliexpress for lg g3 quick circle case.
Still waiting for it to arrive. Was definitely worth the price to me to try...
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All I see are the stickers that contain NFC and PMA chips. Not seeing the PMA case.
ScooterG said:
All I see are the stickers that contain NFC and PMA chips. Not seeing the PMA case.
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Pm sent, that seemed to allow links...
hcd00045 said:
Pm sent, that seemed to allow links...
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Thanks for the link, but that cover looks to be the one that supports Qi charging. Our AT&T phones only support PMA charging.
ScooterG said:
Thanks for the link, but that cover looks to be the one that supports Qi charging. Our AT&T phones only support PMA charging.
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That's the big question, isn't it. It says it supports the d850... So I'm going to give it a try.
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ScooterG said:
Thanks for the link, but that cover looks to be the one that supports Qi charging. Our AT&T phones only support PMA charging.
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That got me thinking... I don't know enough about the differences between qi and PMA. Is the difference hardware or software? If it's software, is it possible to reprogram?
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Thanks for the link, but that cover looks to be the one that supports Qi charging. Our AT&T phones only support PMA charging.
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Are there any links to the specific hardware changes internally and/or software differences between the D850 and other variants in regard to providing the PMA capability? I'm looking for the specific changes made. So far I can't find that listed anywhere but keep seeing people referencing the PMA situation with the D850. I'm trying to see how deep it's tied to PMA. Is it voltage on those pins? Is it linked to a specific driver builtin or bundled with the kernel?
Looking for ways to ditch PMA.
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That's the big question, isn't it. It says it supports the d850... So I'm going to give it a try.
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That got me thinking... I don't know enough about the differences between qi and PMA. Is the difference hardware or software? If it's software, is it possible to reprogram?
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Just found out.
There's a chip and management software. The software is likely a kernel driver and service loaded at startup. There isn't much difference between the two and it's easy for chip makers to make them dual mode and dual QI/PMA chips are already on the market.
It wouldn't be worth the headache to mod this unless you really like to tinker, can cannibalize a chip from another G3 and load a ROM for that other variant. Not worth it. You're better off buying or trading for a variant.
The Qi version has a version 2 which has the adhesive sticker already incorporated. All you have to do is remove the 3M paper, apply to your battery door and apply the heat dispatching sticker. Pictures below are of the Qi version but the PMA version will look the same.
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ALL SALES ARE FINAL. NO REFUNDS.
REMINDER: DO NOT INSTALL HEAT DISPATCHING STICKER UNTIL YOU HAVE CONFIRMED THAT YOUR PHONE IS WIRELESSLY CHARGING.
Install the small rectangular sticker followed by the PMA sticker chip. Put the battery cover back on to your phone and test to make sure that the wireless charging is working. If it is not working, remove the battery cover and reposition the PMA chip and test again. Once it is confirmed working and wirelessly charging, Apply the heat dispatching sticker and put back your battery cover.
I say this because the heat dispatching sticker is hard to remove.
I own a Verizon LG G3 and have sold over 500 Qi wireless charging sticker chips. I've gotten lots of questions asking if the Qi chips will work on AT&T (of course, we all know that is a NO). But I have been communicating with a manufacturer and they have requested me to buy a AT&T LG G3 for them and ship it to them so they can do some research on the PMA wireless charging. If they are able to gather information from their research, there may be a PMA sticker chip for all you AT&T users rather than having to wait or transplant from a Quick Circle case.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. If it all works out, I'll look into purchasing a bunch of PMA chips and helping XDA like I did with the Qi.
For those curious, I have 1306 positive feedback on eBay (slickoffers).
I AM PROVIDING A SERVICE LIKE I DID WITH THE QI STICKER CHIPS FOR VERIZON, TMOBILE AND SPRINT USERS. I AM FORKING CASH UP FRONT TO ACQUIRE THESE STICKERS IN ORDER FOR ME TO GET THEM QUICKER TO YOU. I GET SHIPMENTS WITHIN 4 BUSINESS DAYS AND HAVE IT DELIVERED TO YOU WITHIN 2-5 DAYS (DEPENDING ON THE SHIPPING METHOD YOU CHOOSE) INSTEAD OF YOU WAITING 2-3 WEEKS FOR IT TO ARRIVE FROM ASIA OR NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE IT DELIVERED TO YOUR STATE OR DON'T LIKE ORDERING FROM OVERSEAS. I AM NOT A BUSINESS AND SHIP THESE WHEN I GET HOME FROM MY FULL-TIME JOB. I WILL DO MY BEST TO SHIP OUT THE NEXT DAY BUT I DO HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS SUCH AS HOUSE CHORES AND HELPING MY PREGNANT WIFE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
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I own a Verizon LG G3 and have been selling Qi sticker chips for wireless charging. I've gotten lots of questions asking if the Qi chips will work on AT&T (of course, we all know that is a no). But I have been communicating with the manufacturer who produces them and they have requested me to buy a AT&T LG G3 for them and ship it to them so they can do some research on the PMA wireless charging. If they are able to gather information from their research, there may be a PMA sticker chip for all you AT&T users rather than having to wait or transplant from a Quick Circle case.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. If it all works out, I'll look into purchasing a bunch of PMA chips and offer it to XDA like I did with the Qi.
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I'm in!!
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iazybandit said:
I own a Verizon LG G3 and have been selling Qi sticker chips for wireless charging. I've gotten lots of questions asking if the Qi chips will work on AT&T (of course, we all know that is a no). But I have been communicating with the manufacturer who produces them and they have requested me to buy a AT&T LG G3 for them and ship it to them so they can do some research on the PMA wireless charging. If they are able to gather information from their research, there may be a PMA sticker chip for all you AT&T users rather than having to wait or transplant from a Quick Circle case.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. If it all works out, I'll look into purchasing a bunch of PMA chips and offer it to XDA like I did with the Qi.
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As am I! I've been waiting for one of these since I got the phone. Thanks for taking the time and interest to look into it for us!
You would be my favorite person ever. $60 is too much to spend on a back just to mutilate it.
Count me in!
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Sounds awesome. Please keep up posted!
Sounds great! subscribed!
Question: if you can get a manufacturer to produce this, can it be made as slim as possible with no metal disk or magnet?
Thanks!
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Sounds great! subscribed!
Question: if you can get a manufacturer to produce this, can it be made as slim as possible with no metal disk or magnet?
Thanks!
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I don't know what their plans are for producing or even if they can make it compatible with PMA. For cost and production, they may just produce it the same as what the Qi sticker chips are for Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint.
I guess we will be standing by. Thanks again for your efforts!
They should be receiving the phone on August 23rd. Hopefully they can start researching and find a solution quick. I told them to let me know as soon as they have confirmation and that it works. I've already bought 500 Qi stickers from them so I'm probably their #1 buyer. LOL.
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They should be receiving the phone on August 23rd. Hopefully they can start researching and find a solution quick. I told them to let me know as soon as they have confirmation and that it works. I've already bought 500 Qi stickers from them so I'm probably their #1 buyer. LOL.
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I think this would sell in a meaningful way.
Hopefully they can make a very thin sticker that works without the magnet or shield layer. I transplanted the one from the Quick Circle case into my OEM back and I took it out. It was causing my screen to buldge. I had a black version and I really couldn't notice it. I traded for a white one and it was easily noticeable against the white frame. I am just worried about this because there are reports of this causing the screen to separate from the frame by some members.
I'd buy one.
I would buy a couple
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Hopefully they can make a very thin sticker that works without the magnet or shield layer. I transplanted the one from the Quick Circle case into my OEM back and I took it out. It was causing my screen to buldge. I had a black version and I really couldn't notice it. I traded for a white one and it was easily noticeable against the white frame. I am just worried about this because there are reports of this causing the screen to separate from the frame by some members.
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Pictures or info about this? Maybe I can pass this on to them.
I would buy one too.
This would be sweet to have! I'll buy one if it happens!
That would be awesome. I'm crossing my fingers! If they can produce one than I'll buy a couple as well. I have two powermat chargers I bought on sale but I've been stubborn to spend $60 on the pma folio case!
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.
in. i would say first batch should be about 50 and then after the reviews another 50-75 for the 2nd wave. appreciate you helping us PMA users.
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in. i would say first batch should be about 50 and then after the reviews another 50-75 for the 2nd wave. appreciate you helping us PMA users.
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Only issue in doing small waves is the long wait time for between each shipment. I still get my shipment in a lot quicker than if you were to buy it on your own (I get my shipment in 3-5 days where as you'll probably have to wait 3 weeks). Plus, it would cost me more in Western Union fees every time I send money to them. With the Qi sticker chips, every time I order chips, I have to pay WU fees. Yes, I can order 300-500 at one time, but I don't want to get stuck with them. Not to mention, I'm forking out my own money to acquire these. I can have people pay up front to help offset the cost of purchasing but that just ties up people's money.
I'm sure if the manufacturer has chips working working for AT&T, it should be no problem as they test each chip with their machine. With the Qi chips, there's a bigger market since it covers Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint where as with the PMA, I'm only limited to AT&T users. Of course, not every AT&T user has a LG G3, so I have to gauge the amount of AT&T users that are interested in these to see how many to order. Like the Qi chips, I may have to set up a newsletter and have people sign up. This will let me know how many people. I underestimated the demand for the Qi and my first order was 100. With the AT&T, I may have to order 200 at one time and be done. If the demand is more, I may order more.
I'm not a business or wholesaler. I have a full time, 9-5 job and go home after work to help my pregnant wife and whatever a normal married homeowner does LOL. So all packing and printing of shipping labels is done after work with my wife helping. But you'll still get it quicker from me after all said and done than if you were to buy directly from them. Not to mention, they don't ship to all states for whatever reason. Like the Qi chips, I'll sell as much as I can so as long there is demand but once I see other people selling, that's when I stop (yes, I do make a little profit from selling as I have to buy shipping materials, ink, cut each sticker and pack them. Also need to pay for those diapers somehow).
Sorry for the long rant. Just pointing out the process involved when I'm doing this.
I emailed LG asking what the contacts are for on the rear of the phone (under the battery cover), turns out I was correct in assuming they were wireless charging support:
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How about the other versions?
What phones that have metal back panels support native wireless charging? Can't think of one right now.
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How about the other versions?
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I only emailed about my variant, but I assume if they have those contact pins around the back they will support wireless charging. The only one that may be different is the AT&T which probably only does PowerMat because they invested too much into that standard to ever give it up, lol.
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What phones that have metal back panels support native wireless charging? Can't think of one right now.
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This one doesn't either. You will have to replace the back with something that isn't metal (as the email suggests, their Quick Circle case). However, Qualcomm has had WiPower for years that supports wireless charging through metal phones, but no one has ever used it for some reason...
TheJesus said:
This one doesn't either. You will have to replace the back with something that isn't metal (as the email suggests, their Quick Circle case). However, Qualcomm has had WiPower for years that supports wireless charging through metal phones, but no one has ever used it for some reason...
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Because it's it's own standard and doesn't support Qi or PMA so that would mean people would have to buy a whole new charging pad.
The majority of manufacturers that enable wireless charging are Qi standard (Samsung supports both Qi and Powermat). If Qualcomm could somehow get iPhone to incorporate WiPower then it would basically destroy Qi/PMA overnight and Android OEM's would switch at that point.
Right now it's the whole Beta/VHS battle (if you're that old to remember), Laser Disc vs DVD (more of a late 90's battle) or most recently HDDVD vs Bluray battle thing. In the end one format will win and everyone will switch to it (not always for the best though). HDDVD was a cheaper better format but Bluray at the time offered more storage capacity and was "more secure" (even though the DRM has been stripped/broken on bluray).
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/this-wireless-charging-technology-works-with-metal-phones/
Can individuals who own a LG V20 post their carrier and if they have the pins near the battery.
Im hoping the Verizon variant has the pins for wireless charging.
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Can individuals who own a LG V20 post their carrier and if they have the pins near the battery.
Im hoping the Verizon variant has the pins for wireless charging.
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The T-Mobile variant does not.
There's a small gap in the area where the pins would be, but, it doesn't look like anything that could accommodate wireless charging.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to negate any posts that point in the other direction, just posting my observations on my TMOUS LG V20.
To the contrary, I hope that somehow, wireless charging can be achieved (other than the stickers that plug into the USB port).
If an OEM LG V20 Charging Case or, battery cover becomes available, I'll order one (or both) & report my findings here.
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I don't care for wireless charging. Its pointless to me. I like using my phone while it's charging
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The T-Mobile variant does not.
There's a small gap in the area where the pins would be, but, it doesn't look like anything that could accommodate wireless charging.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to negate any posts that point in the other direction, just posting my observations on my TMOUS LG V20.
To the contrary, I hope that somehow, wireless charging can be achieved (other than the stickers that plug into the USB port).
If an OEM LG V20 Charging Case or, battery cover becomes available, I'll order one (or both) & report my findings here.
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There are 10 pins all the way around the back of the T-Mobile phone that are currently insulated from touching the metal back cover, that is what I asked about in the email to LG. They said they're used for wireless charging, maybe not all of them, but some.
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There are 10 pins all the way around the back of the T-Mobile phone that are currently insulated from touching the metal back cover, that is what I asked about in the email to LG. They said they're used for wireless charging, maybe not all of them, but some.
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I see those as well, glad to hear they are intended for wireless charging.
I do have an OEM Licensed (VOIA) Quick View Case on the way, from S. Korea , should be arriving any day now, left Seoul on 10/19/19.
With any luck, this is the one that has wireless charging on-board.....
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I see those as well, glad to hear they are intended for wireless charging.
I do have an OEM Licensed (VOIA) Quick View Case on the way, from S. Korea , should be arriving any day now, left Seoul on 10/19/19.
With any luck, this is the one that has wireless charging on-board.....
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They said it was the Quick Circle, but who knows, hah.
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They said it was the Quick Circle, but who knows, hah.
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Here's what's on the way:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-V...hash=item43f6f2e3a9:m:mcEPNP_kAW9TSuqvpAkJ0Cw
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Here's what's on the way:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-V...hash=item43f6f2e3a9:m:mcEPNP_kAW9TSuqvpAkJ0Cw
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Nah, that doesn't replace the back cover and it doesn't plug in at the bottom so I can't imagine it supporting Qi. They probably would've explicitly stated it did wireless charging.
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Can individuals who own a LG V20 post their carrier and if they have the pins near the battery.
Im hoping the Verizon variant has the pins for wireless charging.
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i don't know if they are for wireless charging but there are 10 insulated pins around the back of the Verizon one too like what the op was describing.
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Here is a picture of my T-Mobile V-20 with the back off. The 2 pins in the upper right are for NFC.
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Here is a picture of my T-Mobile V-20 with the back off. The 2 pins in the upper right are for NFC.
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My ATT version has those too, but I'm pretty sure they're some sort of snap for the back cover. Lay your cover next to your phone (phone with screen facing down, and cover with inside facing up), and you'll see some little squares on the cover that line up perfectly with those copper/gold pins on the phone.
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Like mentioned above, those pins go to the NFC antenna that is mounted around the camera cutout in the back cover.
KOLIOSIS said:
I see those as well, glad to hear they are intended for wireless charging.
I do have an OEM Licensed (VOIA) Quick View Case on the way, from S. Korea , should be arriving any day now, left Seoul on 10/19/19.
With any luck, this is the one that has wireless charging on-board.....
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Nah, that doesn't replace the back cover and it doesn't plug in at the bottom so I can't imagine it supporting Qi. They probably would've explicitly stated it did wireless charging.
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You are indeed correct regarding the lack of wireless charging support with the VOIA Case (not my video,but,it shows all the deets of the case)
That feature aside,if you're a fan of this style of case,it has a great fit,can be used with or without the metal backing,a nice feature in of itself if you want to use one of the QI Charging stickers that plug into the USB Port:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnB2gsR9XYI
Since people don't seem to understand what pins we're discussing, I have circled the 10 of them here... They are not the two near the camera for NFC.
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I don't care for wireless charging. Its pointless to me. I like using my phone while it's charging
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Agreed! I feel like wireless charging takes forever, and if your life is like mine that 1 hour is like 1 minute (sometimes) well.... you figure you dont have all day to wait for it to reach the 100. And also to be constantly removing the device and putting it back well.. it makes it last even more .
EDIT: On the other hand, it is good to have variation. Maybe someday it wakes up my interest to buy one of those wireless charging docks. After all, that's why i currently love more lg than samsung, because it has more variation (LOVE MY IR BLASTER) !!