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[Q] HTC Sensation 4G supported bands/frequencies

Hello, I'm planning to get the HTC Sensation soon. I'll buy it from eBay because it won't come in Greece soon and I've found a pretty good deal for the Sensation 4G that will be released in US. However, to be able to use Greece's mobile networks it has to support GSM900 & GSM1800 and WCDMA2100 for 3G. What are the supported bands on the Sensation 4G?
Edit: GSMArena says that it supports these bands (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php) but I need to be 200% sure as I'm buying from eBay and returns aren't easy there, if not impossible, and I don't wan't to have a phone that can't work as a phone

same here
hope that i'd get tmobiles on the 8th
i asked some ebay seller and he told me it supports
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
hope someone can confirm that too

aoryx said:
same here
hope that i'd get tmobiles on the 8th
i asked some ebay seller and he told me it supports
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
hope someone can confirm that too
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Did you ask rhk735wo0? I have also asked HTC and waiting for a response, and at the GSMArena page about the Sensation it says it support all GSM frequencies and 900/1700/2100 for 3G. I also found this image below from the FCC Test of the phone that says that it doesn't support GSM 900 and 1800, thus I will not have 2G reception and that's pretty bad.
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yea same here...
i guess we better look for a Vodafone/UK version then
edit://check this http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
says it supports 900/1800

aoryx said:
yea same here...
i guess we better look for a Vodafone/UK version then
edit://check this http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
says it supports 900/1800
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OMG, where did you find that page? I've been searching the whole United States site for it! Seems like we can trust that and based on that information it supports all GSM bands so we should be ok with 2G. For 3G, at least here in Greece, I need WCDMA2100 which I'm pretty sure it supports. But I will wait for HTC's reply before buying it. Another thing would be whether we will have the same software with the European version, eg. wallpapers and if it will have a bunch of bloatware from t-mobile. But I guess when the bootloader is unlocked we can flash a European version.

I've heard a few conflicting things too. I need the appropriate bands for my provider here in Canada and it looks like the UK version should suffice. Still waiting on HTC or some more forum members to chime in though.

giorgisp said:
....when the bootloader is unlocked we can flash a European version.
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exactly
let me know when htc replies

aoryx said:
exactly
let me know when htc replies
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Sure. Personally, I'd feel more safe and comfortable if I bought the European version from UK, but there's a huge difference in price. The cheapest European version I can find on eBay is 650 euro while the other day there was a preorder for the 4G at 470 euro (unfortunatelly it sold-out immediately) and now I can find the 4G at 530 euro. So I'm saving over 120 euro here! I may also wait for it to be released in the US and maybe the prices on eBay will fall (preorders tend to be more expensive).

You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.

ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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are you sure it has both hsdpa 900 and 1900? that would be great

ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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Thank you very much. The different opinions I've read around the Internet caused a bit of confusion on my mind . So do you think it's safe to preorder the Sensation 4G on eBay to use it in Greece (we have GSM900/1800 for 2G and WCDMA2100 for 3G)?
Sorry for asking so many times for confirmation etc. but they guy selling it doesn't accept returns and I don't want to be in a situation having to sell it to get a European version and losing money and time in the process...

ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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T-Mobile USA 3G (HSDPA) uses the AWS (1700 and 2100 MHz) frequency-bands. It does not use 850 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA

samnada said:
T-Mobile USA 3G (HSDPA) uses the AWS (1700 and 2100 MHz) frequency-bands. It does not use 850 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
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So, the Sensation 4G will work on Greece's 3G networks that use the 2100 band. And for GSM network, ashasaur's statement is quite reasonable. It should support all 4 bands, but I'm waiting for HTC to confirm this...

giorgisp said:
So, the Sensation 4G will work on Greece's 3G networks that use the 2100 band. And for GSM network, ashasaur's statement is quite reasonable. It should support all 4 bands, but I'm waiting for HTC to confirm this...
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Yes, should work fine on 2100 3G. I'm counting on it for international travel. GSM should also be quad band, but understand waiting for confirmation.

Another thing that's worrying me is whether the Sensation 4G will support the same roms/kernels/mods/radios etc. with the European Sensation. I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
PS: Still waiting a reply from HTC to confirm the supported bands...

giorgisp said:
I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
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If anything I'm guessing that's because one is GSM & the other is CDMA. When the Touch Pro 2 dropped & had both a GSM & CDMA version the CDMA was left in the cold while everyone worked on the GSM one & they were not interchangeable.

xnifex said:
If anything I'm guessing that's because one is GSM & the other is CDMA. When the Touch Pro 2 dropped & had both a GSM & CDMA version the CDMA was left in the cold while everyone worked on the GSM one & they were not interchangeable.
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So you think that custom stuff will work on both... I'll ask on the development forums, in a rom thread.

giorgisp said:
Another thing that's worrying me is whether the Sensation 4G will support the same roms/kernels/mods/radios etc. with the European Sensation. I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
PS: Still waiting a reply from HTC to confirm the supported bands...
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T-Mobile US is GSM, not CDMA.

Woohoo!! I just ordered the European Sensation for £450, brand new, sealed!

giorgisp said:
So you think that custom stuff will work on both... I'll ask on the development forums, in a rom thread.
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I don't see why it shouldn't. The only other time I saw where US & EU ROMS weren't interchangeable was with the HD2 since the tmous version had a 1GB ROM vs the 512MB one for the EU. Unless tmous changes anything like that, they should all work on any Sensation.

Frequency

Tmobile website listed the frequency as 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100).
Can this phone use the 3g network on ATT? The specs are the same comparing it with the G2X.

nope, does not have umts band V

I am wondering if someone can clear this up for because I have been searching and getting mixed readings. What bands does this phone support for 3G/HSPA??

The Tmobile phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The European phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The Canadian version WILL work on 3G, not sure about 4G (does AT&T have an HSPA+ network?)

Matt1408 said:
The Tmobile phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The European phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The Canadian version WILL work on 3G, not sure about 4G (does AT&T have an HSPA+ network?)
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I understand that and was not looking to use it on At&t. Thats why I just wanted the bands, because I am seeing so many different things over the internet and googling it

UMTS 850 is what you're looking for with AT&T

Matt1408 said:
UMTS 850 is what you're looking for with AT&T
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Is this UMTS 900 then??

El Ha$on said:
Is this UMTS 900 then??
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900 is European

Matt1408 said:
900 is European
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Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support

El Ha$on said:
Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz

Matt1408 said:
There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz
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I bought an unlocked T-Mobile variant. It did not come in original manufacturing package.
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Yeah, there seems to be at least three versions of the sensation. My TMOUS Sensation box says UMTS bands I, II, and IV. It is interesting to note that the T-Mobile website does not list UMTS band II in the specs. I tend to believe the box it came in, since we all know how accurate websites can be sometimes. So it seems if you have a TMOUS Sensation, you may or may not get 3/4G on AT&T.

Matt1408 said:
There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz
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A lot of countries in Latin America use the 900mhz band so it would surprise me if carriers in the carribean use the same
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This site should help figure out which specific bands are used in each country. Just select desired country in the dropdown.
Link to DR as an example:
http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=DOMINICAN+REPUBLIC
T-Mobile version has UMTS 1700, 1900, 2100 on the box, so won't get 3G in countries requiring 900.

All I know is that to get the 850 band, you have to buy the Canadian version (bell canada), AFAIK we're one of few that use 850.
I think the UK version has 900?
the Tmo version has the higher freq. UMTS/HSPA, plus AWS. people in canada on Wind Mobile (the only AWS carrier) would need to buy that variation.

I am having the same problem almost all sites I have found say that the T-Mobile Sensation only supports HADPA 900 / 1800, I have just bought a T-Mobie Sensation off eBay where the seller posted the Sensation specs which says it supports the 850 band as well but from what I have gleaned so far this is incorrect, I'm in Australia where the Telstra 3G network runs on the 850 band so this phone will be useless to me on the Telstra 3G network.
Does any one really know if the T-Mobile version has the HSDPA 850 band????
El Ha$on said:
Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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El Ha$on said:
Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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Okay this what I've seen on the negrielectronics website about HTC Sensation 4G T-Mobile (unlocked) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unlocked.html
According to the info under "General" it says 3G Network HSDPA 900 / AWS / 2100.
So the European version is the same as the T-Mobile Sensation. Both handsets run on UMTS 900/2100MHz
T-mobile 4G network runs on 2100MHz (and I think 1700MHz as well), so as long as your area is covered with 2100MHz you'll be able to get 4G. Also any carrier or telco that runs their 3G network on the 900/2100MHz bands will compatible with the European model and the T-Mobile Sensation 4G. IF the specs are accurate on the website I was looking at, then the T-Mobile Sensation 4G is just a re-badged version of the European model.
Technically the HTC Sensation Z710a (UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html can also be used with T-Mobile network as ii is compatible with 2100MHz band.
PS
Do you know what bands your telco are using? Not really familiar with Caribbean networks.

shadowboy23 said:
Okay this what I've seen on the negrielectronics website about HTC Sensation 4G T-Mobile (unlocked) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unlocked.html
According to the info under "General" it says 3G Network HSDPA 900 / AWS / 2100.
So the European version is the same as the T-Mobile Sensation. Both handsets run on UMTS 900/2100MHz
T-mobile 4G network runs on 2100MHz (and I think 1700MHz as well), so as long as your area is covered with 2100MHz you'll be able to get 4G. Also any carrier or telco that runs their 3G network on the 900/2100MHz bands will compatible with the European model and the T-Mobile Sensation 4G. IF the specs are accurate on the website I was looking at, then the T-Mobile Sensation 4G is just a re-badged version of the European model.
Technically the HTC Sensation Z710a (UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html can also be used with T-Mobile network as ii is compatible with 2100MHz band.
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Do you know what bands your telco are using? Not really familiar with Caribbean networks.
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Specs on the T-Mobile US Sensation 4G box do not match that website.
The box lists this:
GSM 850,900,1800,1900
UMTS 1700,1900,2100
TMO US requires 1700 for 3G/4G.

If you're in the Carribean or in Australia you should buy the Asian version: Z710e. The box states, under Network:
HSPA/WCDMA: (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: (850/900/1800/1900 MHz).
I'm in Europe (Austria) and my Sensation is the Asian version and works well with my A1 carrier (UMTS/HSDPA).
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samnada said:
TMO US requires 1700 for 3G/4G.
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Wrong it runs on 1700MHz and 2100MHz
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difference between US and Global Versions

hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?

lamaboy99 said:
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
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Yes. I believe the difference is that the US version has the 1700AWS band for T-Mobile. Global has the 2100 band that works better overseas.

Ok thanks I don't have TMobile or one of their subsidiaries anyway and tend to travel over seas in the summer so looks like I made the right choice anyway

US radio specs:
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 ; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
above information pulled from thread here by no1_cdn here........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
i own the uk 8gb version screen capture of preferred list bellow

Thanks for the help guys

I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
Thanks.
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miinshiou said:
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
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No with the US version you will NOT get 3G in Europe or Taiwan. You will get 2G however. If you want 3G overseas you need to the global version but you lose T-mobiles AWS band support.

thanks. Is there a phone (moto x, nexus 5, or anything) that support 3G band of all carriers in all regions?
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A thing that I've noticed in the reviews is that the US versions of the phone, the cases (at least the black one) has a "metallic" look on that M on the back while the Global / European version that M it's only glossy.

Just got my US 16gb model yesterday via Amazon. Back cover has a glossy black "M" logo, nothing metallic about it.
Bummer to hear this phone won't do 3G in Europe, I went with the USA model since I just moved over to T-mobile, and a lot of the 3G signal in my area is still on 1700 mhz. My AT&T phone was getting 3G in a lot of areas, but just enough EDGE data to annoy me and make me buy the G.

Can the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 Gold Model MT7-TL10 not support 4G LTE in the US?

Hi Everyone-
I posted a question somewhat related to this yesterday but didn't really get an exact answer and I'm getting very confusing and mixed reviews online so I'm trying again as I really want to order a new phone asap but want to make sure I'm still getting 4G LTE. I currently have the Ascend Mate 2 and get 4G LTE just fine on my network. I use Cricket here in US and I'm having trouble narrowing down what bandwidth they use. I've heard 1900 but I'm not sure. I also think they use AT&T towers. Does anyone have any info/advice on this?
On the one I'm looking at on Ebay (it won't let me post a link sorry) it says it supports the following:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 1800 / 2100 / 2600 TD-LTE 1900 / 2300 / 2500 / 2600 (Bands 1, 3, 7, 38, 39, 40, 41)
If the MT7-TL10 cannot support 4G LTE in the US can the other version? The Silver MT7-L09 or whatnot?
Thanks!

Hey, I noticed that you didn't get any answers to this question.
I have an MT7-TL10 mainland China (gold edition) and I am not getting 4G LTE on AT&T, only 3G.
I've looked into this question also; it seems that AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, and 17.

Bery_ said:
Hey, I noticed that you didn't get any answers to this question.
I have an MT7-TL10 mainland China (gold edition) and I am not getting 4G LTE on AT&T, only 3G.
I've looked into this question also; it seems that AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, and 17.
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Thank you! From other boards/research that is kind of what I gathered. I ended up getting the cheaper silver version (MT7-L09) since that does get 4G LTE here in the US.

Sunshine32 said:
Hi Everyone-
I posted a question somewhat related to this yesterday but didn't really get an exact answer and I'm getting very confusing and mixed reviews online so I'm trying again as I really want to order a new phone asap but want to make sure I'm still getting 4G LTE. I currently have the Ascend Mate 2 and get 4G LTE just fine on my network. I use Cricket here in US and I'm having trouble narrowing down what bandwidth they use. I've heard 1900 but I'm not sure. I also think they use AT&T towers. Does anyone have any info/advice on this?
On the one I'm looking at on Ebay (it won't let me post a link sorry) it says it supports the following:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 1800 / 2100 / 2600 TD-LTE 1900 / 2300 / 2500 / 2600 (Bands 1, 3, 7, 38, 39, 40, 41)
If the MT7-TL10 cannot support 4G LTE in the US can the other version? The Silver MT7-L09 or whatnot?
Thanks!
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I have the silver MT7-L09 on MetroPCS and I get great 4G LTE coverage in the Miami area. Hope that helps. As far as I know from when I was researching which one to get the TL10 won't get you 4G LTE in the U.S.

HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G - (newb)

I'm in the UK,
Will a Phone SIM from Three UK network work in the HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G ?
the reason I ask here rather than Three support is because those guys previously steered me wrong,
any advice appreciated before I order this phone from China, thanks guys.

nikev215 said:
I'm in the UK,
Will a Phone SIM from Three UK network work in the HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G ?
the reason I ask here rather than Three support is because those guys previously steered me wrong,
any advice appreciated before I order this phone from China, thanks guys.
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In the UK the bands used are bands 1,3,7,8 and 20. The Gem-702L has bands 1,3,7 and 8 but not band 20. I'm pretty sure band 20 is the lower mhz (800 MHz) band for in building coverage (similar to T-Mobile's band 12 here in the US) You should get LTE just fine but in buildings where LTE coverage isn't the greatest you may only get 3G as the X2 doesn't utilize band 20 in the UK. From what I see for Three is that they use 2100mhz for 3G and 800mhz and 1800mhz for 4G. The X2 doesn't have 800mhz but has 1800 mhz so 4G should work.

Sorry. Posted on the wrong thread.

I am on Three in Austria here use "3" LTE 2600 and 1800 MHz perfect for Mediapad X2 703L and 702L,since the two have no Band20
But Three in UK use LTE Bands 1800 and 800MHz,only Mediapad X2 701L supports 800MHz (Band 20)
But LTE 800 is used only in rural areas and in the city the 1800MHz

Hiya, I'm on the 3 network in the uk, GEM 702L and I have no problem with 4g or any other network issues.
Bought the phone from 'Oxford Street' on amazon, not directly from china.

many thanks guys,
it turns out the phone I have ordered is the GEM 703L version, according to the Huawei web site it uses the following 4G bands
1800MHz (Band 3)
2100MHz (Band 1)
2600MHz (Band 7)
UK Three network uses 4G on
1800MHz (Band 3)
800MHz (Band 20)
and 3G on
2100MHz (Band 1)
it should be OK.
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