Tmobile website listed the frequency as 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100).
Can this phone use the 3g network on ATT? The specs are the same comparing it with the G2X.
nope, does not have umts band V
I am wondering if someone can clear this up for because I have been searching and getting mixed readings. What bands does this phone support for 3G/HSPA??
The Tmobile phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The European phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The Canadian version WILL work on 3G, not sure about 4G (does AT&T have an HSPA+ network?)
Matt1408 said:
The Tmobile phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The European phone won't work on AT&T 3G/4G
The Canadian version WILL work on 3G, not sure about 4G (does AT&T have an HSPA+ network?)
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I understand that and was not looking to use it on At&t. Thats why I just wanted the bands, because I am seeing so many different things over the internet and googling it
UMTS 850 is what you're looking for with AT&T
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UMTS 850 is what you're looking for with AT&T
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Is this UMTS 900 then??
El Ha$on said:
Is this UMTS 900 then??
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900 is European
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900 is European
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Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
El Ha$on said:
Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz
Matt1408 said:
There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz
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I bought an unlocked T-Mobile variant. It did not come in original manufacturing package.
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Yeah, there seems to be at least three versions of the sensation. My TMOUS Sensation box says UMTS bands I, II, and IV. It is interesting to note that the T-Mobile website does not list UMTS band II in the specs. I tend to believe the box it came in, since we all know how accurate websites can be sometimes. So it seems if you have a TMOUS Sensation, you may or may not get 3/4G on AT&T.
Matt1408 said:
There are 3 versions of the phone, so you ARE going to get mixed specs. Check your box, it should list the specs of the phone on it and you will see the radios that your phone support.
I also don't have a clue what bands do carriers in the Carribean use, but my guess would be 900mhz
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A lot of countries in Latin America use the 900mhz band so it would surprise me if carriers in the carribean use the same
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This site should help figure out which specific bands are used in each country. Just select desired country in the dropdown.
Link to DR as an example:
http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=DOMINICAN+REPUBLIC
T-Mobile version has UMTS 1700, 1900, 2100 on the box, so won't get 3G in countries requiring 900.
All I know is that to get the 850 band, you have to buy the Canadian version (bell canada), AFAIK we're one of few that use 850.
I think the UK version has 900?
the Tmo version has the higher freq. UMTS/HSPA, plus AWS. people in canada on Wind Mobile (the only AWS carrier) would need to buy that variation.
I am having the same problem almost all sites I have found say that the T-Mobile Sensation only supports HADPA 900 / 1800, I have just bought a T-Mobie Sensation off eBay where the seller posted the Sensation specs which says it supports the 850 band as well but from what I have gleaned so far this is incorrect, I'm in Australia where the Telstra 3G network runs on the 850 band so this phone will be useless to me on the Telstra 3G network.
Does any one really know if the T-Mobile version has the HSDPA 850 band????
El Ha$on said:
Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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Ok i understand but I DONT want this to work on At&t i purchased an unlocked one to work in the carribean. I just want to be sure that it will work thats why i am asking what 3G band does it support
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Okay this what I've seen on the negrielectronics website about HTC Sensation 4G T-Mobile (unlocked) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unlocked.html
According to the info under "General" it says 3G Network HSDPA 900 / AWS / 2100.
So the European version is the same as the T-Mobile Sensation. Both handsets run on UMTS 900/2100MHz
T-mobile 4G network runs on 2100MHz (and I think 1700MHz as well), so as long as your area is covered with 2100MHz you'll be able to get 4G. Also any carrier or telco that runs their 3G network on the 900/2100MHz bands will compatible with the European model and the T-Mobile Sensation 4G. IF the specs are accurate on the website I was looking at, then the T-Mobile Sensation 4G is just a re-badged version of the European model.
Technically the HTC Sensation Z710a (UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html can also be used with T-Mobile network as ii is compatible with 2100MHz band.
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Do you know what bands your telco are using? Not really familiar with Caribbean networks.
shadowboy23 said:
Okay this what I've seen on the negrielectronics website about HTC Sensation 4G T-Mobile (unlocked) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unlocked.html
According to the info under "General" it says 3G Network HSDPA 900 / AWS / 2100.
So the European version is the same as the T-Mobile Sensation. Both handsets run on UMTS 900/2100MHz
T-mobile 4G network runs on 2100MHz (and I think 1700MHz as well), so as long as your area is covered with 2100MHz you'll be able to get 4G. Also any carrier or telco that runs their 3G network on the 900/2100MHz bands will compatible with the European model and the T-Mobile Sensation 4G. IF the specs are accurate on the website I was looking at, then the T-Mobile Sensation 4G is just a re-badged version of the European model.
Technically the HTC Sensation Z710a (UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz) http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html can also be used with T-Mobile network as ii is compatible with 2100MHz band.
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Do you know what bands your telco are using? Not really familiar with Caribbean networks.
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Specs on the T-Mobile US Sensation 4G box do not match that website.
The box lists this:
GSM 850,900,1800,1900
UMTS 1700,1900,2100
TMO US requires 1700 for 3G/4G.
If you're in the Carribean or in Australia you should buy the Asian version: Z710e. The box states, under Network:
HSPA/WCDMA: (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: (850/900/1800/1900 MHz).
I'm in Europe (Austria) and my Sensation is the Asian version and works well with my A1 carrier (UMTS/HSDPA).
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TMO US requires 1700 for 3G/4G.
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Wrong it runs on 1700MHz and 2100MHz
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I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
Hello, I'm planning to get the HTC Sensation soon. I'll buy it from eBay because it won't come in Greece soon and I've found a pretty good deal for the Sensation 4G that will be released in US. However, to be able to use Greece's mobile networks it has to support GSM900 & GSM1800 and WCDMA2100 for 3G. What are the supported bands on the Sensation 4G?
Edit: GSMArena says that it supports these bands (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php) but I need to be 200% sure as I'm buying from eBay and returns aren't easy there, if not impossible, and I don't wan't to have a phone that can't work as a phone
same here
hope that i'd get tmobiles on the 8th
i asked some ebay seller and he told me it supports
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
hope someone can confirm that too
aoryx said:
same here
hope that i'd get tmobiles on the 8th
i asked some ebay seller and he told me it supports
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
hope someone can confirm that too
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Did you ask rhk735wo0? I have also asked HTC and waiting for a response, and at the GSMArena page about the Sensation it says it support all GSM frequencies and 900/1700/2100 for 3G. I also found this image below from the FCC Test of the phone that says that it doesn't support GSM 900 and 1800, thus I will not have 2G reception and that's pretty bad.
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yea same here...
i guess we better look for a Vodafone/UK version then
edit://check this http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
says it supports 900/1800
aoryx said:
yea same here...
i guess we better look for a Vodafone/UK version then
edit://check this http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
says it supports 900/1800
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OMG, where did you find that page? I've been searching the whole United States site for it! Seems like we can trust that and based on that information it supports all GSM bands so we should be ok with 2G. For 3G, at least here in Greece, I need WCDMA2100 which I'm pretty sure it supports. But I will wait for HTC's reply before buying it. Another thing would be whether we will have the same software with the European version, eg. wallpapers and if it will have a bunch of bloatware from t-mobile. But I guess when the bootloader is unlocked we can flash a European version.
I've heard a few conflicting things too. I need the appropriate bands for my provider here in Canada and it looks like the UK version should suffice. Still waiting on HTC or some more forum members to chime in though.
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....when the bootloader is unlocked we can flash a European version.
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exactly
let me know when htc replies
aoryx said:
exactly
let me know when htc replies
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Sure. Personally, I'd feel more safe and comfortable if I bought the European version from UK, but there's a huge difference in price. The cheapest European version I can find on eBay is 650 euro while the other day there was a preorder for the 4G at 470 euro (unfortunatelly it sold-out immediately) and now I can find the 4G at 530 euro. So I'm saving over 120 euro here! I may also wait for it to be released in the US and maybe the prices on eBay will fall (preorders tend to be more expensive).
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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are you sure it has both hsdpa 900 and 1900? that would be great
ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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Thank you very much. The different opinions I've read around the Internet caused a bit of confusion on my mind . So do you think it's safe to preorder the Sensation 4G on eBay to use it in Greece (we have GSM900/1800 for 2G and WCDMA2100 for 3G)?
Sorry for asking so many times for confirmation etc. but they guy selling it doesn't accept returns and I don't want to be in a situation having to sell it to get a European version and losing money and time in the process...
ashasaur said:
You guys are slightly mis-informed. The AWS 3G bands have nothing todo with 2G service. Almost all of HTC's devices are quadband GSM, hell almost all the GSM phones in the world are quadband, meaning that they all pretty much universally support 2G(GPRS and EDGE).
The T-Mobile US variant of the S4G SHOULD have
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
as stated above.
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T-Mobile USA 3G (HSDPA) uses the AWS (1700 and 2100 MHz) frequency-bands. It does not use 850 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
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T-Mobile USA 3G (HSDPA) uses the AWS (1700 and 2100 MHz) frequency-bands. It does not use 850 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
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So, the Sensation 4G will work on Greece's 3G networks that use the 2100 band. And for GSM network, ashasaur's statement is quite reasonable. It should support all 4 bands, but I'm waiting for HTC to confirm this...
giorgisp said:
So, the Sensation 4G will work on Greece's 3G networks that use the 2100 band. And for GSM network, ashasaur's statement is quite reasonable. It should support all 4 bands, but I'm waiting for HTC to confirm this...
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Yes, should work fine on 2100 3G. I'm counting on it for international travel. GSM should also be quad band, but understand waiting for confirmation.
Another thing that's worrying me is whether the Sensation 4G will support the same roms/kernels/mods/radios etc. with the European Sensation. I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
PS: Still waiting a reply from HTC to confirm the supported bands...
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I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
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If anything I'm guessing that's because one is GSM & the other is CDMA. When the Touch Pro 2 dropped & had both a GSM & CDMA version the CDMA was left in the cold while everyone worked on the GSM one & they were not interchangeable.
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If anything I'm guessing that's because one is GSM & the other is CDMA. When the Touch Pro 2 dropped & had both a GSM & CDMA version the CDMA was left in the cold while everyone worked on the GSM one & they were not interchangeable.
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So you think that custom stuff will work on both... I'll ask on the development forums, in a rom thread.
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Another thing that's worrying me is whether the Sensation 4G will support the same roms/kernels/mods/radios etc. with the European Sensation. I'm asking because while the HTC Desire has huge developer support, the US (CDMA) version has minimal support and roms etc. are not universal between the two.
PS: Still waiting a reply from HTC to confirm the supported bands...
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T-Mobile US is GSM, not CDMA.
Woohoo!! I just ordered the European Sensation for £450, brand new, sealed!
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So you think that custom stuff will work on both... I'll ask on the development forums, in a rom thread.
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I don't see why it shouldn't. The only other time I saw where US & EU ROMS weren't interchangeable was with the HD2 since the tmous version had a 1GB ROM vs the 512MB one for the EU. Unless tmous changes anything like that, they should all work on any Sensation.
So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
U better make sure they running the same 3g bands or u stuck with edge eww
Well on the site it said its running the same but thats why i want somebody to help me with this i can still cancel my order helpp =[
anybody? can help?
if it's the EU version it'll work. it seems all the sensations have tmous's AWS bands
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So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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It'll either say that or AWS. I think the EU boxes say AWS
Network
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
That is from Euro version specs...
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I have that phone and I'm getting at least 3g speeds. I have no idea how to check to see whether I get 4g. If anyone can guide me, I can post my results.
My speeds are not that good, but are the same as my old HTC HD2.
Its about 3Mbps/1Mbps.
4G would be either if your phone said 4G (US) or H+ (EU)
See the guy said for t-mobile its running 1700/2100 i know t-mobile uses 2100 idk if the 1900 is under edge and he just didnt list it cuz he only listed 3g/4g..
I was wondering this same exact thing! I'm also considering buying it from Amazon. I want to buy the international version instead of the Tmous version because hopefully Tmous will allow me to use my $10 web2go plan with the international sensation since my IMEI isn't tracked by Tmous. But at the same time I want to know if the international version with have the 1700/2100 Tmous 4G bands.
On the the HTC HD2, only the Tmous version had the 1700/2100 band whereas the International HD2 had 850/1900 bands. Just want to know if the Sensation is gonna be the same way.
Please update when your phone arrives.
I guess the International Version Sensation DOES HAVE the 1700(AWS)/2100 band. Here is a video of the unboxing of the international version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqA4hNe42A
Now the only question remains is if it'll be able to use the $10 web2go plan
Also check out this review, it's confirmed international version works with Tmous 4G: http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-review
"CALL QUALITY/NETWORK SPEED
We tested the HTC Sensation over T-Mobile, even though this variant of the Sensation was designed for Europe. Despite this, call quality was fantastic with no dropped calls. We also clocked some pretty healthy data speeds of, on average, 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. In our best test we clocked 6.1Mbps down and 1.7Mbps up."
I am using the sensation on tmobile. It only says H for data. I am not sure if the software can support changing the display. The HTC hd2 I previously used was the tmo version, but I don't think that can support 4G. Is there any barrier that one can say they're on 4G? Like of your speed is above XMbps, then you're on 4G.
I got an international one today(black box). I got worried that I wouldnt get 4g (didnt have UK or USA english only asian countries) The box says:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
So these are the correct bands for TMO 4g correct? I see I get the H icon on the signal meter but when I did a speed test I got really low scores (could have been the area I was in at the time though) The place I bought it from said I could exchange it for a TMO branded one because I called them and said I didnt think it was compatible with tmo's 4g network. But before I go and exchange it I want to make sure if it doesn or doesnt have the TMO bands
graffixnyc said:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
raysacr said:
The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
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Tmo's "4G" network is only hspda+ at least as far as I know. I think the tmo version and the version I have just have different icons for when on the 4G network. Tmo's version says 4G and the Asian version shows the H
I work for Tmous retail sales and we have never really been taught anything about bands. Ive been pretty curious myself since some customers come into the store with AT&t phones asking about tmo service. I have been instructed (by a fellow retail associate) to tell them that no At&t phone will ever have 3G on tmo ( I assume thats just the safe answer though).
real question!
in terms of 3G/4G (hspa+) what bands does tmous use?
same question for AT&t.
To tie that together. ex: If a phone from At&t hypothetically has capabilities to use the same bands as tmous and is unlocked, can it get 3G/4G service on tmous?
i did search around and didnt find a very clear answer so i figured i'd start a thread, im sure other noobs have the same question.
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
The T-Mobile Vibrant actually has those AT&T bands too, if you SIM unlock the Vibrant, you can get 3G on AT&T.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/22/samsung-galaxy-unlockable-tmobile-vibrant-supports-att-3g/
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
nxt said:
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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Thanks for the clarification. In hopes that im not being a further nuisance, I was wondering, what about a phone that has 1 of the matching bands?
T-Mobile USA is using the 1700/2100 Mhz bands for 3G (UMTS)
T-Mobile Germany uses 1900/2100 Mhz for 3G (UMTS)
If you couldnt tell, im considering buying an iPhone (to develop on for fun). Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
DrewMullen said:
Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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No it will not get 3G
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
kossel said:
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
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Yeah there is. There a lot of site that sell International HTC One S. Of course, its full price.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Z520E-VILLE-COLOUR-UNLOCKED/dp/tech-data/B007H7G6IE/ref=de_a_smtd
kossel said:
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
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Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
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Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
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I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
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I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
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I have T-Mobile USA HTC One S with me and on the box it says that it supports 3g of 850, 2100, 1700/2100 and 1900Mhz. I just don't have AT&T sim card to test, but looking at the specs on the box it has to work at 1900Mhz.
I've read that it picks up 4G on at&t just not LTE.
T-MobileUS HTC One S running Stock Rooted 2.21.