some producers let the camera show 16MP, however the real resolution is 8MP. Is it also possible to hack the mentioning of horizontal and vertical pixels in gallery, or is it also possible to hack the pixel size even when you copy to computer? If yes, how do I know the real pixel size of a picture or video if the benchmarking apps are hacked and if the picture details information is hacked. Is there a good benchmarking app which is not hacked by the producers so that it says the truth.
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Hi all,
I recently upgraded to WM6 (file name is XDA_EXEC_WWE_20202_20307_11500.exe). The results were all good as I really like the new "glass" like interface. However, the camera now has a "2M" option which displays the resolution as 1600x1280 which appears to be one of the few 2meg resolution sepcifications out there. The pictures taken also have the resolution of 1600x1280 and don't appear to be stretched or skewed in any way which would be evident if resolution of a smaller pictures was increased disproportionately. Does this mean that camera's resolution is limited only by software? or is it some kind of glitch?
Any feedback would be most appreciated.
pasan said:
Hi all,
I recently upgraded to WM6 (file name is XDA_EXEC_WWE_20202_20307_11500.exe). The results were all good as I really like the new "glass" like interface. However, the camera now has a "2M" option which displays the resolution as 1600x1280 which appears to be one of the few 2meg resolution sepcifications out there. The pictures taken also have the resolution of 1600x1280 and don't appear to be stretched or skewed in any way which would be evident if resolution of a smaller pictures was increased disproportionately. Does this mean that camera's resolution is limited only by software? or is it some kind of glitch?
Any feedback would be most appreciated.
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Hi,
The Camera CMOS is only capable of 1.3MP, you get 2MP by software interpolating. Basically the CMOS captures a 1.3MP shot and the software resizes and fills in the gaps by guessing what should be there by using complex algorithms to analyze the original picture.
If you want to know more search the Wiki......................wikipedia that is!
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Beast
Yes its done by interpolation. Even the old WM5 camera app already has this option.
hello guys, i was wondering if there was any good camera application for the Vox??? (something similar to the camera application on the HTC hurricane wm2003se) I feel on the Vox the interface of the built in camera is terrible. I mean the resolution is worked out in Mega Pixels, e.g if you want a 2MP snap the resolution must be set to max which means no more further zooming.
Therefore is there any good camera application which will keep the snap at 2MP standard and giving some good zoom option with it?? Please recommend or please post a good application if possible thanks.
How would a digital zoom work, other than making it bigger by reducing the resolution?
oh i'm not sure about that, all i know is, on my previous htc hurricane which was on wm2003se, the camera was awesome, no matter how big the resolution was, the mega pixels reamained the same. All im asking for is suggestion of a good camera application!
What the poor guy was suggesting is that it will not help you with any camera application to get better quality image. It will be like taking your picture in say, VGA and then using irfanview or something like that to just resize the image. And moreover different phones have different camera. My Gene's Camera can give SE K790i a run for its money. But trust me Digital Zoom is a hoax!
I guess no body knows about any camera here. May be you can google and let us know if you find one.
Here's a question- Is it possible to take/capture videos from the camera of the HTC Topaz in widescreen formats? I'm able to take pictures in widescreen formats (By widescreen, I mean that it uses up the entire screen when it generates a preview of the picture and then saves it in dimensions that are the same proportionally ), but it'd be great to do the same with video. Any answers as to whether or not this is possible on this deivce? I've seen it done on a couple of other HTC devices, or at least attempted... Any thoughts? Thanks!
I am not sure it is possible right now.
One thing you may not be aware of is that the widescreen picture mode is faked. All the phone is doing is cropping the real 5 Megapixel 4:3 screen ratio picture into a widescreen format. It is not as bad as a digital zoom but you are still losing pixels.
Whether it's possible or not....it's pointless.
Switching the camera to "widescreen mode" just reduces the number of vertical pixels.
You might as well record with the most number of pixels and crop afterwards.
The Gallery app on our phone doesn't increase the detail of images after you pinch to zoom. Does anyone know of a way to fix this or a different gallery app that will do this properly?
If you view pictures directly from the camera app, it shows the full resolution of the photo when you zoom in (but its slow to pinch to zoom). If you do it from the gallery app, it just scales a lower resolution rendering of the photo to fit the screen, but it doesn't actually re-render the image at full resolution (but its very smooth). I'm looking for something that works like the iPhone's gallery app, which scales as you zoom so that the interface is smooth, but once you stop at a certain zoom level, it re-renders the image in a higher resolution (aka best of both worlds).
Just curious, which rom are you running?
I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...
It would appear he is correct! Even on a 5MP picture of the underside of my car, I can't get any more detail then I do looking at it normally.
I experience the same thing; my gallery also takes its sweet time to notice new images from downloads or edits in Photoshop. I suspect most of these anomolies are due to the beta Froyo I've been running since it was leaked.
Gallery just sucks , it always had crappy zoomed quality with no details , Be it my Nexus one with eclair -> froyo to Cappy eclair -> froyo.
Its as if your watching thumbnails and not actual pictures.
There was modified gallery a while ago in Nexus one forums not sure if its still around, supposed to be better then default one.
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I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...
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Dunno why camera shots are coming out low res (I'd imagine that it's just the gallery program that sucks), but downloaded photos on JI6 are automatically resized to 305x203.
I actually remember reading some article a while back that talked about this issue (the gallery being low-res), and mentioning that this is by design. Apparently the developers decided that UI speed is more important than photo quality. I wish I still had the url to that article..
Also, forget searching for 'gallery' in the market. All the search results are retarded wallpaper/mostly naked girl spam. I wish spamming the market with valueless programs was a hangable offense.
Have you guys tried the apk from HERE? I have it loaded and while it does load alot slower it does seem to be higher res. Give it a shot, You will have to copy over the current APK in system/app with something like Root Explorer, or uninstall the gallery then try to install. I could not get it to install but coping worked great
I also remember reading an article that explained that the Gallery purposefully did not display images in their native resolution.
There is a free application in the Market called, "Floating Image" that will display images from any folder of your choosing as well as Flickr, Picase and Facebook in a floating collage of pictures. You can then tap on one and use multitouch to zoom in on the photo in it's full resolution.
I use it to display my camera roll as it allows me to see my photos in much more detail as opposed to the built in Gallery that I can't stand. The only issues that I have with it are that it stutters a little bit when using the high resolution thumbnail option and that it cannot see hidden folders.
I think the gallery is opengl-based and it treats photos as textures, which are limited to 1024x1024 res.
If you don't mind losing the 3d effects, download an app called JustPictures!. It's now my default photo viewer. You can double-tap to zoom to actual size or pinch-zoom. It's fast and free.
Bonus: slideshow live wallpaper
Did some searching and found an article that talks about the issue:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
Apparently Google chose the cool 3d gallery instead of better image quality. Its clear to me why lowering the image quality is wroth it for making things smooth, but I don't know why the app can't render more detail after you zoom in. Anyway, JustPictures! works pretty good and does show better details. Its a bit slower (and the stock gallery isn't particularly fast), but it gets the job done. I wonder if JustPictures! is the best solution out there or if there are other apps worth checking out as well...
Previous posters are correct that the lower image quality is part of how the program was built. However, there is an article on this site that has a link to the HTC gallery version which can improve the quality, but still is not truly 1 to 1 quality, jest better than stock.
I was testing out the HDR options for this and they do not seem to do much at all. There is a difference, but it is VERY minor. I took a shot without HDR, one with HDR, and then one using the free HDR app, and the HDR app simply blew the HTC HDR mode completely out of the water...
Has anyone else had any experience with this? Is there something I may be missing?
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
Absolutely the same as my experience. I used HDR Camera from the market before this (free), and I really loved its results. When I installed the 3.0 Sense camera and saw the HDR setting, I was happy until I tried it. My theory is that it is NOT taking multiple pictures, but only doing an image adjustment --->> NOT the same thing. HDR Camera doesn't have the issues that some of you described. You do not have to be rock steady and my phone is plenty fast enough to take the three photos within about a second. The image settings are also adjustable (color, etc.).
On the other hand, the panorama mode in the Sense camera is Awesome!
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HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
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Software cannot do what HDR does. HDR takes 2 pictures, adjusting the gain on the sensor between low and high. It combines the best of both images to gain detail in low light areas and avoid over exposure in high light areas. Software will not work after the fact because the extra information gained from low/high gain is not present. Unfortunately the HDR option is poorly implemented by HTC. If you try HDR on the Iphone, you can see a drastic difference.
Actually, I use Pro HDR on my Evo, and it takes fantastic pictures in true HDR. It is a touch slower than a pro camera, but it does actually meter the scene and adjust the camera's aperture accordingly. It then allows for adjustments between the composite image and allows for saving the final as well as the source images, meaning you can do further editing elsewhere. Outside of some cropping, I haven't had problems.
With that said, I would be curious to know what the deal is with Sense. What's interesting is if you put it in HDR mode, it shows the little icon in the top right with multiple images...like whoever designed it at least understood how true HDR *should* operate. Then, if you push and release it instead of the regular shutter button, it beeps and you hear the lens go, and the image focuses itself. So...idk. I don't see a noticeable effect in the regular images at all...