Gallery zoom: Poor detail - Captivate General

The Gallery app on our phone doesn't increase the detail of images after you pinch to zoom. Does anyone know of a way to fix this or a different gallery app that will do this properly?
If you view pictures directly from the camera app, it shows the full resolution of the photo when you zoom in (but its slow to pinch to zoom). If you do it from the gallery app, it just scales a lower resolution rendering of the photo to fit the screen, but it doesn't actually re-render the image at full resolution (but its very smooth). I'm looking for something that works like the iPhone's gallery app, which scales as you zoom so that the interface is smooth, but once you stop at a certain zoom level, it re-renders the image in a higher resolution (aka best of both worlds).

Just curious, which rom are you running?

I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...

It would appear he is correct! Even on a 5MP picture of the underside of my car, I can't get any more detail then I do looking at it normally.

I experience the same thing; my gallery also takes its sweet time to notice new images from downloads or edits in Photoshop. I suspect most of these anomolies are due to the beta Froyo I've been running since it was leaked.

Gallery just sucks , it always had crappy zoomed quality with no details , Be it my Nexus one with eclair -> froyo to Cappy eclair -> froyo.
Its as if your watching thumbnails and not actual pictures.
There was modified gallery a while ago in Nexus one forums not sure if its still around, supposed to be better then default one.

TheSopranos16 said:
I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...
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Dunno why camera shots are coming out low res (I'd imagine that it's just the gallery program that sucks), but downloaded photos on JI6 are automatically resized to 305x203.
I actually remember reading some article a while back that talked about this issue (the gallery being low-res), and mentioning that this is by design. Apparently the developers decided that UI speed is more important than photo quality. I wish I still had the url to that article..
Also, forget searching for 'gallery' in the market. All the search results are retarded wallpaper/mostly naked girl spam. I wish spamming the market with valueless programs was a hangable offense.

Have you guys tried the apk from HERE? I have it loaded and while it does load alot slower it does seem to be higher res. Give it a shot, You will have to copy over the current APK in system/app with something like Root Explorer, or uninstall the gallery then try to install. I could not get it to install but coping worked great

I also remember reading an article that explained that the Gallery purposefully did not display images in their native resolution.
There is a free application in the Market called, "Floating Image" that will display images from any folder of your choosing as well as Flickr, Picase and Facebook in a floating collage of pictures. You can then tap on one and use multitouch to zoom in on the photo in it's full resolution.
I use it to display my camera roll as it allows me to see my photos in much more detail as opposed to the built in Gallery that I can't stand. The only issues that I have with it are that it stutters a little bit when using the high resolution thumbnail option and that it cannot see hidden folders.

I think the gallery is opengl-based and it treats photos as textures, which are limited to 1024x1024 res.
If you don't mind losing the 3d effects, download an app called JustPictures!. It's now my default photo viewer. You can double-tap to zoom to actual size or pinch-zoom. It's fast and free.
Bonus: slideshow live wallpaper

Did some searching and found an article that talks about the issue:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
Apparently Google chose the cool 3d gallery instead of better image quality. Its clear to me why lowering the image quality is wroth it for making things smooth, but I don't know why the app can't render more detail after you zoom in. Anyway, JustPictures! works pretty good and does show better details. Its a bit slower (and the stock gallery isn't particularly fast), but it gets the job done. I wonder if JustPictures! is the best solution out there or if there are other apps worth checking out as well...

Previous posters are correct that the lower image quality is part of how the program was built. However, there is an article on this site that has a link to the HTC gallery version which can improve the quality, but still is not truly 1 to 1 quality, jest better than stock.

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Bad JPG compression in Photos and Videos

The photos I have added to my phone from my PC look bad in the Touch Flo application's Photos and Videos page. They have massive JPG compression artifacting. The photos that were in the phone, and any photos I have taken with the built in camera look great. When I click on the photos to look at them full screen, they all look great, but it's just in the screen where you can "flip" through the photos that they look bad. I moved a photo from the memory card to the phone to see if that was the issue, but it still looked bad.
It's probably not that big of a deal, as the more photos I get loaded to the phone, the less likely I am to even use this "flip" function, as it would take all day to flip through a hundred photos.
On another note, what photo apps do people like that lets you organize lots of photos well?
Am I the only one with this issue? Or am I the only one that uses the built in app?
I'm no expert, but it sounds to me like the issue stems from a lack of resizing images for your screen resolution in the software. Remember, windows mobile is an inefficient hunk of junk. Just like Vista and, to a lesser extent, XP.
As such, developers rarely consider anything graphically or processor intensive when writing code (or they are simply lazy). Either way, sounds to me like the software simply can't re-size the images to fit your screen properly.
I bought a low-end digital picture frame for my grandmother a few years back. Almost all the pictures we uploaded to the thing looked horrible! Except for those images which mached it's native resolution. Go figure.
Why do pictures taken from your camera work? Dunno. I too would like to find a good photo organizer for my phone.
Just be glad your phone even takes pictures! My AT&T fuze camera flaked out, i can take pictures and view the thumbnails, but when viewing fullsize, I get a bunch of green blocks!!! (REALLY considering flashing that leaked rom and seeing how that goes)

Mediascape Picture Quality

Hi all,
Not sure if this happened just after the update to the 24 firmware, as I only just noticed it... but have you noticed that images do not zoom properly in mediascape...?? - it's like a crappy 'digital' zoom on a low resolution image (probably one reason why photos taken by the camera always look so crap - because Mediascape does not display them in their full beauty)
Let me give you an example:
The wallpapers here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6994126&postcount=1 look great as a wallpapers... nice HD image, stretched all the way to the edges of my screen... However, if I view the same image in Mediascape it shows up with an actual size of about 1x1 inch, and if I zoom in, instead of getting a nice HD image, I get exactly what you'd expect if I zoomed in on a thumbnail - a horribly compressed looking jpeg.
Is this a new issue? was Mediascape always awful like this? is there a fix...?
Bump.... anyone?
Yes I noticed the same thing on the 20 software as well. Pictures look great when set as background, but viewed in Mediascape they look all blurry, very annoying!
rvictorg said:
Yes I noticed the same thing on the 20 software as well. Pictures look great when set as background, but viewed in Mediascape they look all blurry, very annoying!
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Is there any good image viewing SW out there... usually, if I take a photo, I'll zoom in close, just to make sure it's not too blurry, and nice and crisp - currently I can't do that.
nothing worse than taking a good photo, and finding it just looks awful when blown up.
Astro has a 'better' image viewer, and while you can't zoom in, at least it's not showing a horribly compressed image.
k1sr said:
Is there any good image viewing SW out there... usually, if I take a photo, I'll zoom in close, just to make sure it's not too blurry, and nice and crisp - currently I can't do that.
nothing worse than taking a good photo, and finding it just looks awful when blown up.
Astro has a 'better' image viewer, and while you can't zoom in, at least it's not showing a horribly compressed image.
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SE probably did this so you can fling between pictures very quickly (this was first introduced on 020). However in order to make it so 'quick' they had to compress the pictures a lot.. Bunch of amateurs really..
I suggest you download JustPictures from the market. It is as fast as Mediascape, you can do the 'one-finger-zoom' and the images remain sharp.
Thanks for that - Just Pictures works a treat.
Cheers

Custom picture settings

I'm a big picture guy and wanted to know if any of you guys have adjusted any of the settings and have noticed better picture quality. I must say taking off auto-focus does help with the blurryness a little as stated in a previous post but just wanted to know what differences have you made/seen...
I currently have most things set to default.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
Set it to highest resolution.
You will probably have to go to another app to really get good pictures. The stock app compresses them down too much. Hopefully, they will improve it in later updates. There is no excuse for not having more features like Camera 360 - the camera can do much better.
Ditto for the "720p" video. Did some side-by-side with a still camera that has a 720p mode - night and day difference in quality. Again, hope/wonder if this can also be upgraded with only software.
Switch to standard photo size by switching off widescreen mode. All widescreen does is lop off pixels from the top and bottom of your photos. If you really wanted that, just do it yourself in a photo editor. You are not using the full resolution of your camera in widescreen mode, and 16:9 photos are non-standard when it comes to printing either 4x6 or 5x7 photos.

HTC Sense 3.0 Camera

I was testing out the HDR options for this and they do not seem to do much at all. There is a difference, but it is VERY minor. I took a shot without HDR, one with HDR, and then one using the free HDR app, and the HDR app simply blew the HTC HDR mode completely out of the water...
Has anyone else had any experience with this? Is there something I may be missing?
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
Absolutely the same as my experience. I used HDR Camera from the market before this (free), and I really loved its results. When I installed the 3.0 Sense camera and saw the HDR setting, I was happy until I tried it. My theory is that it is NOT taking multiple pictures, but only doing an image adjustment --->> NOT the same thing. HDR Camera doesn't have the issues that some of you described. You do not have to be rock steady and my phone is plenty fast enough to take the three photos within about a second. The image settings are also adjustable (color, etc.).
On the other hand, the panorama mode in the Sense camera is Awesome!
yareally said:
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
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Software cannot do what HDR does. HDR takes 2 pictures, adjusting the gain on the sensor between low and high. It combines the best of both images to gain detail in low light areas and avoid over exposure in high light areas. Software will not work after the fact because the extra information gained from low/high gain is not present. Unfortunately the HDR option is poorly implemented by HTC. If you try HDR on the Iphone, you can see a drastic difference.
Actually, I use Pro HDR on my Evo, and it takes fantastic pictures in true HDR. It is a touch slower than a pro camera, but it does actually meter the scene and adjust the camera's aperture accordingly. It then allows for adjustments between the composite image and allows for saving the final as well as the source images, meaning you can do further editing elsewhere. Outside of some cropping, I haven't had problems.
With that said, I would be curious to know what the deal is with Sense. What's interesting is if you put it in HDR mode, it shows the little icon in the top right with multiple images...like whoever designed it at least understood how true HDR *should* operate. Then, if you push and release it instead of the regular shutter button, it beeps and you hear the lens go, and the image focuses itself. So...idk. I don't see a noticeable effect in the regular images at all...

This is seriously Crazy by Vivo!!!

Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
Exactly!! Hope someone can find a solution for this. Such a shame they are restricting what this phone can deliver.
Abby 244 said:
I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
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HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
roxboxxx said:
HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
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Here is the gallery pic
shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
Abby 244 said:
Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
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I did and the colors look much better on the Note 8 and I am sure that the colours on the NEX can also look equally better provided someone finds out a way to turn of the AI thing.
I wish I can unsee it
If you want to really hate the AI, access YouTube in your mobile browser and then switch to request the desktop version. Then set it to a high resolution and look at the stunning quality.
I now seriously hate this AI!
Also just validated ..this is happening with the official and vanced versions of the YouTube app.
Tested:
- I installed older official YouTube apps - same issue
- I installed a few third party YouTube apps - all had beautiful color saturation
Jesus!!
What a mess.
Good that i'm always uninstalling all stock app and replaced them with third party for example for gallery i'm using Google Photo or Quick Pic with all my smartphone.
But must be some kind of spesific services related to AI that should remove via ADB that would be the best solution.
Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
t7gc7 said:
Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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I will be tomorrow with the photos and this forum presented as exhibits. I have been talking to vivo support on an off for the past week, so I suspect it will at least get logged.
I see the same problem. I used ES Explorer and default album with multitask to compare side by side. Really strange ...
I always use the QuickPic Since I got the device , However noticed the Bad quality with YouTube when I attempted to test a Video Playback . Mx player has better performance.
Lets Push Vivo Team to Correct this , There is a separate thread on XDA requesting them to release the source code.
Once they release the Source , I guess these problems will be Easily resolved.
Regards,
H
Also, you guys can use a third party app to set the wallpapers for both desktop and lock screen. It looks so much better when you do that. And if we should reach to Vivo on this. It's shame that their team has not checked on this, which is such a major thing.
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
kpsr_007 said:
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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That's interesting. But where do you find those settings? On the youtube app or under phone settings?
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Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
Abby 244 said:
Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
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I just do it and ... Wouah ...

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