The photos I have added to my phone from my PC look bad in the Touch Flo application's Photos and Videos page. They have massive JPG compression artifacting. The photos that were in the phone, and any photos I have taken with the built in camera look great. When I click on the photos to look at them full screen, they all look great, but it's just in the screen where you can "flip" through the photos that they look bad. I moved a photo from the memory card to the phone to see if that was the issue, but it still looked bad.
It's probably not that big of a deal, as the more photos I get loaded to the phone, the less likely I am to even use this "flip" function, as it would take all day to flip through a hundred photos.
On another note, what photo apps do people like that lets you organize lots of photos well?
Am I the only one with this issue? Or am I the only one that uses the built in app?
I'm no expert, but it sounds to me like the issue stems from a lack of resizing images for your screen resolution in the software. Remember, windows mobile is an inefficient hunk of junk. Just like Vista and, to a lesser extent, XP.
As such, developers rarely consider anything graphically or processor intensive when writing code (or they are simply lazy). Either way, sounds to me like the software simply can't re-size the images to fit your screen properly.
I bought a low-end digital picture frame for my grandmother a few years back. Almost all the pictures we uploaded to the thing looked horrible! Except for those images which mached it's native resolution. Go figure.
Why do pictures taken from your camera work? Dunno. I too would like to find a good photo organizer for my phone.
Just be glad your phone even takes pictures! My AT&T fuze camera flaked out, i can take pictures and view the thumbnails, but when viewing fullsize, I get a bunch of green blocks!!! (REALLY considering flashing that leaked rom and seeing how that goes)
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as there anyway i can speed up this process?
each thumbnail takes half sec.. i have 100s of photos
i formated my SD card 64k as per certain advise.. anymore tweaks pls?
resize your photos to fit not more than 800x480. you can use VSO Resizer if you're on VISTA or Image Resizer if you're using XP.
resize???? u mean thumbnails or?
i will want to keep my 5mp photos!
If you want to keep your photos at max resolution then expect your thumbnails to take ages, sorry I cant think of any toher way. I dont know what device you have, but even my HD struggles with lots of photos, especially when viewing from my network drive wirelessly.
Maybe, another photo viewer?
don't know of anything better than S2V..and creating thumbnails from 5MP pictures takes a lot of time. S2V even has a cacher which makes the loading time faster.. and it STILL isn't fast enough with such big pictures...
sorry friend... hardware limitations are a *****.
Hi all,
Not sure if this happened just after the update to the 24 firmware, as I only just noticed it... but have you noticed that images do not zoom properly in mediascape...?? - it's like a crappy 'digital' zoom on a low resolution image (probably one reason why photos taken by the camera always look so crap - because Mediascape does not display them in their full beauty)
Let me give you an example:
The wallpapers here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6994126&postcount=1 look great as a wallpapers... nice HD image, stretched all the way to the edges of my screen... However, if I view the same image in Mediascape it shows up with an actual size of about 1x1 inch, and if I zoom in, instead of getting a nice HD image, I get exactly what you'd expect if I zoomed in on a thumbnail - a horribly compressed looking jpeg.
Is this a new issue? was Mediascape always awful like this? is there a fix...?
Bump.... anyone?
Yes I noticed the same thing on the 20 software as well. Pictures look great when set as background, but viewed in Mediascape they look all blurry, very annoying!
rvictorg said:
Yes I noticed the same thing on the 20 software as well. Pictures look great when set as background, but viewed in Mediascape they look all blurry, very annoying!
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Is there any good image viewing SW out there... usually, if I take a photo, I'll zoom in close, just to make sure it's not too blurry, and nice and crisp - currently I can't do that.
nothing worse than taking a good photo, and finding it just looks awful when blown up.
Astro has a 'better' image viewer, and while you can't zoom in, at least it's not showing a horribly compressed image.
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Is there any good image viewing SW out there... usually, if I take a photo, I'll zoom in close, just to make sure it's not too blurry, and nice and crisp - currently I can't do that.
nothing worse than taking a good photo, and finding it just looks awful when blown up.
Astro has a 'better' image viewer, and while you can't zoom in, at least it's not showing a horribly compressed image.
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SE probably did this so you can fling between pictures very quickly (this was first introduced on 020). However in order to make it so 'quick' they had to compress the pictures a lot.. Bunch of amateurs really..
I suggest you download JustPictures from the market. It is as fast as Mediascape, you can do the 'one-finger-zoom' and the images remain sharp.
Thanks for that - Just Pictures works a treat.
Cheers
The Gallery app on our phone doesn't increase the detail of images after you pinch to zoom. Does anyone know of a way to fix this or a different gallery app that will do this properly?
If you view pictures directly from the camera app, it shows the full resolution of the photo when you zoom in (but its slow to pinch to zoom). If you do it from the gallery app, it just scales a lower resolution rendering of the photo to fit the screen, but it doesn't actually re-render the image at full resolution (but its very smooth). I'm looking for something that works like the iPhone's gallery app, which scales as you zoom so that the interface is smooth, but once you stop at a certain zoom level, it re-renders the image in a higher resolution (aka best of both worlds).
Just curious, which rom are you running?
I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...
It would appear he is correct! Even on a 5MP picture of the underside of my car, I can't get any more detail then I do looking at it normally.
I experience the same thing; my gallery also takes its sweet time to notice new images from downloads or edits in Photoshop. I suspect most of these anomolies are due to the beta Froyo I've been running since it was leaked.
Gallery just sucks , it always had crappy zoomed quality with no details , Be it my Nexus one with eclair -> froyo to Cappy eclair -> froyo.
Its as if your watching thumbnails and not actual pictures.
There was modified gallery a while ago in Nexus one forums not sure if its still around, supposed to be better then default one.
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I'm running JI6 Froyo. I noticed the same issue on JH7 as well...
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Dunno why camera shots are coming out low res (I'd imagine that it's just the gallery program that sucks), but downloaded photos on JI6 are automatically resized to 305x203.
I actually remember reading some article a while back that talked about this issue (the gallery being low-res), and mentioning that this is by design. Apparently the developers decided that UI speed is more important than photo quality. I wish I still had the url to that article..
Also, forget searching for 'gallery' in the market. All the search results are retarded wallpaper/mostly naked girl spam. I wish spamming the market with valueless programs was a hangable offense.
Have you guys tried the apk from HERE? I have it loaded and while it does load alot slower it does seem to be higher res. Give it a shot, You will have to copy over the current APK in system/app with something like Root Explorer, or uninstall the gallery then try to install. I could not get it to install but coping worked great
I also remember reading an article that explained that the Gallery purposefully did not display images in their native resolution.
There is a free application in the Market called, "Floating Image" that will display images from any folder of your choosing as well as Flickr, Picase and Facebook in a floating collage of pictures. You can then tap on one and use multitouch to zoom in on the photo in it's full resolution.
I use it to display my camera roll as it allows me to see my photos in much more detail as opposed to the built in Gallery that I can't stand. The only issues that I have with it are that it stutters a little bit when using the high resolution thumbnail option and that it cannot see hidden folders.
I think the gallery is opengl-based and it treats photos as textures, which are limited to 1024x1024 res.
If you don't mind losing the 3d effects, download an app called JustPictures!. It's now my default photo viewer. You can double-tap to zoom to actual size or pinch-zoom. It's fast and free.
Bonus: slideshow live wallpaper
Did some searching and found an article that talks about the issue:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
Apparently Google chose the cool 3d gallery instead of better image quality. Its clear to me why lowering the image quality is wroth it for making things smooth, but I don't know why the app can't render more detail after you zoom in. Anyway, JustPictures! works pretty good and does show better details. Its a bit slower (and the stock gallery isn't particularly fast), but it gets the job done. I wonder if JustPictures! is the best solution out there or if there are other apps worth checking out as well...
Previous posters are correct that the lower image quality is part of how the program was built. However, there is an article on this site that has a link to the HTC gallery version which can improve the quality, but still is not truly 1 to 1 quality, jest better than stock.
I have a pretty specific question...
I'm a travel photographer on the side, a lightweight backup solution for my Canon 5d. It uses CF - not SD. Curious - will the host usb port on the keyboard dock allow me to transfer pictures from camera to SD card? to internal memory? anybody willing to try?
Or are there any other ways to do this that I don't know about? currently I use an ipad with a camera connection kit, but I'm not really a big fan of apple's software.
If your camera supports itself as being a mass storage device then yes it should work fine.
couple of issues that i have seen
1. Cannot scan images on camera sd card when inserted into dock. I can see the image files using a file manager and you can view/open the pics one at a time but cannot multi select so that you could flip thru them in gallery. Opening them one at a time is cumbersome especially if you have hundreds of them.
2. Image quality is subpar when viewing your dslr highres pics. I dont expect a lot but clicking on an image should not show a picture with jagged edges. The pictures are not vibrant at all like you would expect them normally to be and how they are shown on my monitor.
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1. Cannot scan images on camera sd card when inserted into dock. I can see the image files using a file manager and you can view/open the pics one at a time but cannot multi select so that you could flip thru them in gallery. Opening them one at a time is cumbersome especially if you have hundreds of them.
2. Image quality is subpar when viewing your dslr highres pics. I dont expect a lot but clicking on an image should not show a picture with jagged edges. The pictures are not vibrant at all like you would expect them normally to be and how they are shown on my monitor.
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For your first issue, you can use Quickpic. I think it scans for sd cards by default, the but even if that doesn't work, you can set folders to scan.
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1. Cannot scan images on camera sd card when inserted into dock. I can see the image files using a file manager and you can view/open the pics one at a time but cannot multi select so that you could flip thru them in gallery. Opening them one at a time is cumbersome especially if you have hundreds of them.
2. Image quality is subpar when viewing your dslr highres pics. I dont expect a lot but clicking on an image should not show a picture with jagged edges. The pictures are not vibrant at all like you would expect them normally to be and how they are shown on my monitor.
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How long did you wait after opening a picture to judge its quality. Android has always taken a few seconds to fully render the quality of a picture in the gallery app. We are talking about low quality, small files taken by the phone camera. I would imagine these files are much larger and would take much longer to open at full quality see as they are from a much higher quality camera.
In short, I hope you were not judging the quality based on the preview that is provided before the full pcture loads.
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How long did you wait after opening a picture to judge its quality. Android has always taken a few seconds to fully render the quality of a picture in the gallery app. We are talking about low quality, small files taken by the phone camera. I would imagine these files are much larger and would take much longer to open at full quality see as they are from a much higher quality camera.
In short, I hope you were not judging the quality based on the preview that is provided before the full pcture loads.
Sent from my CM7 Supersonic
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Hmm...I was accessing the sd card (class 10) via the slot in the dock and when I'd browse a picture, it would not show up properly and perhaps would not load fully? I was using one of the file managers that I downloaded. I'm pretty sure that I waited a long time since I spent several minutes zooming in and out of the partially rendered pics.
But mirumirai's suggestion for using quickpic worked wonderfully. I can see all the pictures in full clarity even though they are around 5mb average in size.
Thanks for the help!
I have been using my transformer to view 4-5MB images from my dslr. I have been reading from sd card and using QuickPic, can view the pictures in the same maner as if transfered to the main drive.
It takes in the region of 1 second to fully resolve image quality for each image, which is slightly faster than some viewers on my PC.
I have had no problems with copy and pasting the entire image folder from the sd card to the picture folder within the file manager.
Going off the OP's question, has anyone done this with a COMPACT FLASH card, NOT an SD card? I am wondering what would be the best route to take for transfering from my Canon 7d onto the TF. I would love to view files in the field somehow, easily.
I know the Eye-Fi SD cards work as I have seen a youtube video of that but just wondering how the CF cards would work? Anyone?
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Going off the OP's question, has anyone done this with a COMPACT FLASH card, NOT an SD card? I am wondering what would be the best route to take for transfering from my Canon 7d onto the TF. I would love to view files in the field somehow, easily.
I know the Eye-Fi SD cards work as I have seen a youtube video of that but just wondering how the CF cards would work? Anyone?
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USB card reader?
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I was testing out the HDR options for this and they do not seem to do much at all. There is a difference, but it is VERY minor. I took a shot without HDR, one with HDR, and then one using the free HDR app, and the HDR app simply blew the HTC HDR mode completely out of the water...
Has anyone else had any experience with this? Is there something I may be missing?
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
Absolutely the same as my experience. I used HDR Camera from the market before this (free), and I really loved its results. When I installed the 3.0 Sense camera and saw the HDR setting, I was happy until I tried it. My theory is that it is NOT taking multiple pictures, but only doing an image adjustment --->> NOT the same thing. HDR Camera doesn't have the issues that some of you described. You do not have to be rock steady and my phone is plenty fast enough to take the three photos within about a second. The image settings are also adjustable (color, etc.).
On the other hand, the panorama mode in the Sense camera is Awesome!
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HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
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Software cannot do what HDR does. HDR takes 2 pictures, adjusting the gain on the sensor between low and high. It combines the best of both images to gain detail in low light areas and avoid over exposure in high light areas. Software will not work after the fact because the extra information gained from low/high gain is not present. Unfortunately the HDR option is poorly implemented by HTC. If you try HDR on the Iphone, you can see a drastic difference.
Actually, I use Pro HDR on my Evo, and it takes fantastic pictures in true HDR. It is a touch slower than a pro camera, but it does actually meter the scene and adjust the camera's aperture accordingly. It then allows for adjustments between the composite image and allows for saving the final as well as the source images, meaning you can do further editing elsewhere. Outside of some cropping, I haven't had problems.
With that said, I would be curious to know what the deal is with Sense. What's interesting is if you put it in HDR mode, it shows the little icon in the top right with multiple images...like whoever designed it at least understood how true HDR *should* operate. Then, if you push and release it instead of the regular shutter button, it beeps and you hear the lens go, and the image focuses itself. So...idk. I don't see a noticeable effect in the regular images at all...