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Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
My camera does the same exact thing, not sure if it's just a built in feature of the phone. Anyone else experience this?
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
-ph- said:
I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
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How to solve because its strange from.te beginning I had no issues and since yesterday it started, same settings.. anybody an idea if it will ve solved by samsung soon?
Nothing you can do, recording at 1080p requires only 2 mpixels, the whole sensor is 12 mpixels. If you record at 4k it'll zoom in less than at 1080p.
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
KenHua said:
Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
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That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
razorseal said:
That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
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The video stabilisation in setting is EIS. OIS is built in the hardware and can not be turn on/off. It is permanently on.
And you can't magically take a 16:9 video/image on the 4:3 sensor without cropping.
If you are annoying by zoom in effect when framing the scene, you can first change the image resolution to the one with 16:9 ratio thus already cropped viewfinder before framing the video.
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
So if I select 16:9 ratio for stills, will this effect video quality selected at FHD?
Jairus24 said:
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
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I know this is a dead thread by now, but this doesn't really address the issue. The GS7 does more than just crop the 4:3 into 16:9, it also crops in a large amount when selecting 1080p as opposed to downsampling the 1080p image as some other cameras do. This is quite annoying, as even if all I need is 1080p I still have to select UHD to get a wide enough FOV, wasting storage space and meaning I have to downsample it later.
Realized later that the above is only true if you have video stabilization on, disregard it, I'm not sure how to delete my reply
Am I the only one that notices that you can be taking pictures and the as soon as you switch to video mode the video gets in real close and almost fills in the whole screen. This is crazy and annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? Maybe a setting that fixed this issue?
No, this is a hardware issue.
The answer is in this post:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7/686490-does-anyone-use-video-stabilization.html
So what we need at least is a frame on screen showing us the exact video frame that will be recorded. Only that way we can aim correctly before pushing the record button.
Bright.Light said:
So what we need at least is a frame on screen showing us the exact video frame that will be recorded. Only that way we can aim correctly before pushing the record button.
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Not sure if you carefully read the information from the link I posted. You can already achieve that now.
ssj100 said:
Not sure if you carefully read the information from the link I posted. You can already achieve that now.
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I did read the ' answer' carefully, but setting the camera to 16:9 is unacceptable and definately not what I meant.
I just mean that I want a (colored?) frame of 16:9 on the display as guideline to show exactly what I will record when I start recording.
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I did read the ' answer' carefully, but setting the camera to 16:9 is unacceptable and definately not what I meant.
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Why is it unacceptable? You can still choose to take photos in 4:3. Whenever you want to record video, you have to switch it to 16:9 if you don't want the zooming effect (if you've set it at 4:3, then the phone automatically records in 16:9, hence the zoom) - the phone can only record video in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that's by design. The same goes with other flagship phones like the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6.
And by the way, taking photos in 16:9 gives exactly the same quality as 4:3. The only difference is there is less field of view with 16:9, relatively. Personally, I just set the camera at 16:9 by default. If I really require more field of view (rare instances for me), it's not hard to tap the phone twice to select the 4:3 setting. And because 16:9 is default for me, I don't have to manually change it if I want to record video accurately (without the zooming) etc. It suits me nicely, as I often record video. Furthermore, 16:9 photos take up the full screen on the actual phone, laptop, PC and TV for me, without the need to waste precious time editing.
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Why is it unacceptable? You can still choose to take photos in 4:3. Whenever you want to record video, you have to switch it to 16:9 if you don't want the zooming effect (if you've set it at 4:3, then the phone automatically records in 16:9, hence the zoom) - the phone can only record video in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that's by design. The same goes with other flagship phones like the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6.
And by the way, taking photos in 16:9 gives exactly the same quality as 4:3. The only difference is there is less field of view with 16:9, relatively. Personally, I just set the camera at 16:9 by default. If I really require more field of view (rare instances for me), it's not hard to tap the phone twice to select the 4:3 setting. And because 16:9 is default for me, I don't have to manually change it if I want to record video accurately (without the zooming) etc. It suits me nicely, as I often record video. Furthermore, 16:9 photos take up the full screen on the actual phone, laptop, PC and TV for me, without the need to waste precious time editing.
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I prefer to see higher and lower too on my photo's. If I don't need it, I can remove it, but it's impossible to stitch that later on.
So, I should stick with 4:3, but then I will miss the correct frame for video. If you have kids, you should know that switching quickly is very important. What should be easier than to show two lines at the 19:6 position? When video recordging starts, I wouldn't mind if then that frame blows up.
So, for me the current working is weird, annoying and it seems to make it a bit slower. But, let's stop like this, each and every customer has his own thoughts about this and that's ok.
All good. The camera is just for fun for me. Maximum convenience is the theme here. And that's a "set and forget" 16:9 ratio for everything, and I know exactly what's included in the frame when I'm taking it etc. For my purposes, editing photos is a waste of time. I'd rather spend that time actually interacting with the "kids" etc. But totally agree, whatever makes you happy in the end.
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
blecap said:
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
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The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
Itaintrite said:
The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
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Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
blecap said:
Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
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The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
Itaintrite said:
The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
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Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
blecap said:
Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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nosympathy said:
If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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Cheers, guess i just have to test the HDR myself.
If you look at photos mainly on your device then i would normally suggest 16:9, but now the S8+ has 18:something, if you don't choose this then the photo will never fill your mobile screen.
But agreed if you want max then 4:3, then edit therafter.
I prefer the former.
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
dwj said:
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
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I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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Ok. I guess what is meant is that if a photo is taken in 4:3 and then cropped but not by as much as cropping into a 16:9 image. I misread the post then.
Anyway, I have been playing with camera on auto and on manual settings and found results excellent on a large pc monitor so no worries for the op about quality issues in different aspect ratios.
Rydah805 said:
I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
Sticking with 4:3 gives you more options. Its recording more of the scene, so you can crop, or not, later as you like. That's really the only difference.
HDR often helps in low light, or bad conditions, but can make bright scenes look a bit too intense. It helps with dark or bright regions in a picture, so you might get more detail in dark areas and more details in clouds, or on water.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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But if we are comparing only the best possible camera 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions, IMHO it doesn't matter in terms of megapixels if at the end we want to get a 16:9 picture, even taken in 4:3 and then cropped, or taken just in 16:9.
Best 4:3 available = 4032 x 3024 (12 M)
Best 16:9 available = 4032 x 2268 (9.1 M)
As the picture width is the same for both, a 4:3 picture cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio has a final height of 2268 pixels, so this too is a 4032 x 2268, just the same as the best available 16:9 resolution.
It's basic mathematics...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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That's quite true but I think the previous poster was referring, like I was earlier, to the 4:3 and 16:9 options that have the same horizontal pixel count in settings options.
Lost pixels can't be recovered. If you're certain you're okay with 16:9 format though, just shoot in 16:9 and save space. I shoot in 4:3 because once in a while, I like to crop my photos vertically in post (rarely but it happens).
Alright got this reply from another forum, Pretty sure this is the reply what I was looking for:
" You're confusing overall all MP with the MP used at different aspect ratios. The 16:9 and 4:3 have the same resolution. All the 16:9 does is crop the top and bottom which gives you a lower MP. The resolution is the same because the used pixel density is still the same.
There IS a difference between 4:3 (12M) and 4:3 (6.2M) though. Half the pixels are not being used. The same goes for 16:9 (9.1) and 16:9 (3.7). "
Still confusing if the answers are already being answered here but I understood this clearly.
Image samples are always in 4:3 format.
Is it possible to change image format in camera app to capture still photos in 16:9 mode?
(Of course I know there are 3rd party camera apps etc. but nothing beats native support for 16:9)
I don't see the reason why not. Here is screenshot of my pixel camera settings. I believe both phones have same screen ration.
My HTC U Ultra has 16:9 and 4:3 modes.
16:9 is just 4:3 cropped so there is no reason why you should photograph in anything but 4:3 and then crop, to keep all the information.
Selectin 16:9 mode removes a big chunk of the information from the sensor. Sure it fills the screen, but that in itself is a poor reason.
Reason to have a 16:9 option is the same reason why most phone cameras have a auto mode. Most people just want to point and press the shutter and be done with it
Some fix for the exaggerated lateral margins that it makes in the videos to the screens of YouTube, Netflix, etc.? You can zoom and fill the screen but the video in its original format, has an excessive crop.
In other Xiaomi devices this does not happen.
dimequetedire said:
Some fix for the exaggerated lateral margins that it makes in the videos to the screens of YouTube, Netflix, etc.? You can zoom and fill the screen but the video in its original format, has an excessive crop.
In other Xiaomi devices this does not happen.
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First of all, I am pretty sure you posted in the wrong category. This should got to Questions & Answers.
Did you ever play GameBoy Color games on the GameBoy Advance?
If yes, you noticed, that all the games had black margins, except you were resizing the image with the L/R button.
The reason for that is that what is being displayed does not match the resolution of the screen. So if your video is 480*240p then it will have margins on a Full HD or 2k display.
Same goes for any device, like your phone. Previous phones did not have margins, because they probably had a screen resolution of precisely 1920x1080p. So most videos will fit perfectly, because that is a very common resolution for videos.
Now the POCO has a higher resolution: 1080 x 2400, which is not perfectly standard. Your video is guaranteed to not have this resolution, as can be seen from the screenshot. So of course there will be black margins. The only way to "remove" the margins would be to resize your video or get an older phone with a resolution of exactly Full HD.
Conclusively, that's not an issue with your phone or whatever. It's an issue regarding different resolutions, which happens to EVERY device on earth that has a display measured in pixels.
Although they are related it's more of the aspect ratio thing than resolution. Common aspect ratio for content on platforms OP has mentioned is 16:9 where our poco has 20:9 screen. 16:9 was the most popular on mobile devices before the "bezel less" era and still is the most popular for TV.
Try to do the pinch outwards gesture to stretch the video to full screen?
Use the Video Toolbox?