HTC Camera - is there 16:9 mode for photos? 4:3 only? - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

Image samples are always in 4:3 format.
Is it possible to change image format in camera app to capture still photos in 16:9 mode?
(Of course I know there are 3rd party camera apps etc. but nothing beats native support for 16:9)

I don't see the reason why not. Here is screenshot of my pixel camera settings. I believe both phones have same screen ration.

My HTC U Ultra has 16:9 and 4:3 modes.

16:9 is just 4:3 cropped so there is no reason why you should photograph in anything but 4:3 and then crop, to keep all the information.
Selectin 16:9 mode removes a big chunk of the information from the sensor. Sure it fills the screen, but that in itself is a poor reason.

Reason to have a 16:9 option is the same reason why most phone cameras have a auto mode. Most people just want to point and press the shutter and be done with it

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Widescreen Video?

Here's a question- Is it possible to take/capture videos from the camera of the HTC Topaz in widescreen formats? I'm able to take pictures in widescreen formats (By widescreen, I mean that it uses up the entire screen when it generates a preview of the picture and then saves it in dimensions that are the same proportionally ), but it'd be great to do the same with video. Any answers as to whether or not this is possible on this deivce? I've seen it done on a couple of other HTC devices, or at least attempted... Any thoughts? Thanks!
I am not sure it is possible right now.
One thing you may not be aware of is that the widescreen picture mode is faked. All the phone is doing is cropping the real 5 Megapixel 4:3 screen ratio picture into a widescreen format. It is not as bad as a digital zoom but you are still losing pixels.
Whether it's possible or not....it's pointless.
Switching the camera to "widescreen mode" just reduces the number of vertical pixels.
You might as well record with the most number of pixels and crop afterwards.

Camera zoom in when recording

Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
My camera does the same exact thing, not sure if it's just a built in feature of the phone. Anyone else experience this?
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
-ph- said:
I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
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How to solve because its strange from.te beginning I had no issues and since yesterday it started, same settings.. anybody an idea if it will ve solved by samsung soon?
Nothing you can do, recording at 1080p requires only 2 mpixels, the whole sensor is 12 mpixels. If you record at 4k it'll zoom in less than at 1080p.
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
KenHua said:
Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
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That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
razorseal said:
That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
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The video stabilisation in setting is EIS. OIS is built in the hardware and can not be turn on/off. It is permanently on.
And you can't magically take a 16:9 video/image on the 4:3 sensor without cropping.
If you are annoying by zoom in effect when framing the scene, you can first change the image resolution to the one with 16:9 ratio thus already cropped viewfinder before framing the video.
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
So if I select 16:9 ratio for stills, will this effect video quality selected at FHD?
Jairus24 said:
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
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I know this is a dead thread by now, but this doesn't really address the issue. The GS7 does more than just crop the 4:3 into 16:9, it also crops in a large amount when selecting 1080p as opposed to downsampling the 1080p image as some other cameras do. This is quite annoying, as even if all I need is 1080p I still have to select UHD to get a wide enough FOV, wasting storage space and meaning I have to downsample it later.
Realized later that the above is only true if you have video stabilization on, disregard it, I'm not sure how to delete my reply

Camera settings help

Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
blecap said:
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
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The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
Itaintrite said:
The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
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Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
blecap said:
Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
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The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
Itaintrite said:
The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
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Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
blecap said:
Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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nosympathy said:
If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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Cheers, guess i just have to test the HDR myself.
If you look at photos mainly on your device then i would normally suggest 16:9, but now the S8+ has 18:something, if you don't choose this then the photo will never fill your mobile screen.
But agreed if you want max then 4:3, then edit therafter.
I prefer the former.
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
dwj said:
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
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I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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Ok. I guess what is meant is that if a photo is taken in 4:3 and then cropped but not by as much as cropping into a 16:9 image. I misread the post then.
Anyway, I have been playing with camera on auto and on manual settings and found results excellent on a large pc monitor so no worries for the op about quality issues in different aspect ratios.
Rydah805 said:
I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
Sticking with 4:3 gives you more options. Its recording more of the scene, so you can crop, or not, later as you like. That's really the only difference.
HDR often helps in low light, or bad conditions, but can make bright scenes look a bit too intense. It helps with dark or bright regions in a picture, so you might get more detail in dark areas and more details in clouds, or on water.
themissionimpossible said:
If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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Rydah805 said:
Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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But if we are comparing only the best possible camera 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions, IMHO it doesn't matter in terms of megapixels if at the end we want to get a 16:9 picture, even taken in 4:3 and then cropped, or taken just in 16:9.
Best 4:3 available = 4032 x 3024 (12 M)
Best 16:9 available = 4032 x 2268 (9.1 M)
As the picture width is the same for both, a 4:3 picture cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio has a final height of 2268 pixels, so this too is a 4032 x 2268, just the same as the best available 16:9 resolution.
It's basic mathematics...
Rydah805 said:
Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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That's quite true but I think the previous poster was referring, like I was earlier, to the 4:3 and 16:9 options that have the same horizontal pixel count in settings options.
Lost pixels can't be recovered. If you're certain you're okay with 16:9 format though, just shoot in 16:9 and save space. I shoot in 4:3 because once in a while, I like to crop my photos vertically in post (rarely but it happens).
Alright got this reply from another forum, Pretty sure this is the reply what I was looking for:
" You're confusing overall all MP with the MP used at different aspect ratios. The 16:9 and 4:3 have the same resolution. All the 16:9 does is crop the top and bottom which gives you a lower MP. The resolution is the same because the used pixel density is still the same.
There IS a difference between 4:3 (12M) and 4:3 (6.2M) though. Half the pixels are not being used. The same goes for 16:9 (9.1) and 16:9 (3.7). "
Still confusing if the answers are already being answered here but I understood this clearly.

Video zoomed in. Digital Image Stabilization, Aspect Ratio

Hello. Is there any camera app that would allow to force 4:3 aspect ratio in video mode without Resolution loss ? I've got xiaomi Mi Note 2, and in 16:9 mode video seems to be zoomed in. I tried almost every camera app in store. When it's in 4:3 everything is ok but resolution is ~ HD (definitely not full HD). No application could be able to force 4:3, even when there was such an option.
Everything thanks to digital image stabilization ...

Looking for a camera app with support for all lenses and sane aspect ratio options

One major annoyance of the OnePlus 7 Pro camera app is that it only supports aspect ratios 4:3 (which looks old-fashioned computery), 20:9 (ridiculously wide) and for some reason 1:1 (useless), and no sane aspect ratios like 16:9, or even better, the traditional 3:2.
So I've been looking at alternative camera apps. Many of them do support 16:9, some even 3:2, but I haven't found a single one that allows you to use the wide angle and zoom lenses of the 7 Pro.
Any tips?
Edit: I realize that all aspect ratios other than 4:3 just crop the picture from the sensor, and that I can do so myself afterwards, but I just want to point and click, and not have to worry about getting the subject in the to-be-cropped-part of the picture.
Thanks,
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