Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
blecap said:
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
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The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
Itaintrite said:
The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
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Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
blecap said:
Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
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The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
Itaintrite said:
The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
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Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
blecap said:
Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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Cheers, guess i just have to test the HDR myself.
If you look at photos mainly on your device then i would normally suggest 16:9, but now the S8+ has 18:something, if you don't choose this then the photo will never fill your mobile screen.
But agreed if you want max then 4:3, then edit therafter.
I prefer the former.
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
dwj said:
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
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I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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Ok. I guess what is meant is that if a photo is taken in 4:3 and then cropped but not by as much as cropping into a 16:9 image. I misread the post then.
Anyway, I have been playing with camera on auto and on manual settings and found results excellent on a large pc monitor so no worries for the op about quality issues in different aspect ratios.
Rydah805 said:
I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
Sticking with 4:3 gives you more options. Its recording more of the scene, so you can crop, or not, later as you like. That's really the only difference.
HDR often helps in low light, or bad conditions, but can make bright scenes look a bit too intense. It helps with dark or bright regions in a picture, so you might get more detail in dark areas and more details in clouds, or on water.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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But if we are comparing only the best possible camera 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions, IMHO it doesn't matter in terms of megapixels if at the end we want to get a 16:9 picture, even taken in 4:3 and then cropped, or taken just in 16:9.
Best 4:3 available = 4032 x 3024 (12 M)
Best 16:9 available = 4032 x 2268 (9.1 M)
As the picture width is the same for both, a 4:3 picture cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio has a final height of 2268 pixels, so this too is a 4032 x 2268, just the same as the best available 16:9 resolution.
It's basic mathematics...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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That's quite true but I think the previous poster was referring, like I was earlier, to the 4:3 and 16:9 options that have the same horizontal pixel count in settings options.
Lost pixels can't be recovered. If you're certain you're okay with 16:9 format though, just shoot in 16:9 and save space. I shoot in 4:3 because once in a while, I like to crop my photos vertically in post (rarely but it happens).
Alright got this reply from another forum, Pretty sure this is the reply what I was looking for:
" You're confusing overall all MP with the MP used at different aspect ratios. The 16:9 and 4:3 have the same resolution. All the 16:9 does is crop the top and bottom which gives you a lower MP. The resolution is the same because the used pixel density is still the same.
There IS a difference between 4:3 (12M) and 4:3 (6.2M) though. Half the pixels are not being used. The same goes for 16:9 (9.1) and 16:9 (3.7). "
Still confusing if the answers are already being answered here but I understood this clearly.
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Here's a question- Is it possible to take/capture videos from the camera of the HTC Topaz in widescreen formats? I'm able to take pictures in widescreen formats (By widescreen, I mean that it uses up the entire screen when it generates a preview of the picture and then saves it in dimensions that are the same proportionally ), but it'd be great to do the same with video. Any answers as to whether or not this is possible on this deivce? I've seen it done on a couple of other HTC devices, or at least attempted... Any thoughts? Thanks!
I am not sure it is possible right now.
One thing you may not be aware of is that the widescreen picture mode is faked. All the phone is doing is cropping the real 5 Megapixel 4:3 screen ratio picture into a widescreen format. It is not as bad as a digital zoom but you are still losing pixels.
Whether it's possible or not....it's pointless.
Switching the camera to "widescreen mode" just reduces the number of vertical pixels.
You might as well record with the most number of pixels and crop afterwards.
I'm a big picture guy and wanted to know if any of you guys have adjusted any of the settings and have noticed better picture quality. I must say taking off auto-focus does help with the blurryness a little as stated in a previous post but just wanted to know what differences have you made/seen...
I currently have most things set to default.
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Set it to highest resolution.
You will probably have to go to another app to really get good pictures. The stock app compresses them down too much. Hopefully, they will improve it in later updates. There is no excuse for not having more features like Camera 360 - the camera can do much better.
Ditto for the "720p" video. Did some side-by-side with a still camera that has a 720p mode - night and day difference in quality. Again, hope/wonder if this can also be upgraded with only software.
Switch to standard photo size by switching off widescreen mode. All widescreen does is lop off pixels from the top and bottom of your photos. If you really wanted that, just do it yourself in a photo editor. You are not using the full resolution of your camera in widescreen mode, and 16:9 photos are non-standard when it comes to printing either 4x6 or 5x7 photos.
Image samples are always in 4:3 format.
Is it possible to change image format in camera app to capture still photos in 16:9 mode?
(Of course I know there are 3rd party camera apps etc. but nothing beats native support for 16:9)
I don't see the reason why not. Here is screenshot of my pixel camera settings. I believe both phones have same screen ration.
My HTC U Ultra has 16:9 and 4:3 modes.
16:9 is just 4:3 cropped so there is no reason why you should photograph in anything but 4:3 and then crop, to keep all the information.
Selectin 16:9 mode removes a big chunk of the information from the sensor. Sure it fills the screen, but that in itself is a poor reason.
Reason to have a 16:9 option is the same reason why most phone cameras have a auto mode. Most people just want to point and press the shutter and be done with it
So I love my pixel 2 and its google photos integration, I also like how when you take a burst/portrait photo it saves the original under the same photo (you open the photo and the 2 photos are at the bottom.) Now I have been for the longest of time just taking my photos in a 16:9 but with such a good camera I want all the pixels I can, so I switched to 4:3 but I HATE 4:3 so damn much, so my question, how do I save the original 4:3 photo but have a 16:9 photo taken by default too, cropped properly and selected as the `default`?
If you hate 4:3, just change the default to 16:9 in the camera settings? Sorry, I don't think the official google camera app supports dual formats. However, you could probably automate it with something like Tasker. If (new photo detected), send to (photo resizer), for example.
ViperPyro said:
If you hate 4:3, just change the default to 16:9 in the camera settings? Sorry, I don't think the official google camera app supports dual formats. However, you could probably automate it with something like Tasker. If (new photo detected), send to (photo resizer), for example.
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I never thought of tasker, Ill look into this soon, I hate 16:9 but throwing away data seems stupid and poor practice.
Update, I have tasker doing it automatically but since I take landscape and portrait photos this doesnt really work, someone mentioned that I can just offload this work to my pc, which I will do. Will edit this post with tasker info soon
Just wanna ask if anyone here remembers back when phone screens all used the 4:3 aspect ratio? I hate the new 18:9 - it's just too wide for most content viewing.
PuffDaddy_d said:
Just wanna ask if anyone here remembers back when phone screens all used the 4:3 aspect ratio? I hate the new 18:9 - it's just too wide for most content viewing.
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I have my nexus one infront of me and its a 16:9 so I mean... Also I havent had much experiece with 2:1 but my experience has been good
Gido5731 said:
I never thought of tasker, Ill look into this soon, I hate 16:9 but throwing away data seems stupid and poor practice.
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Dont you always crop the pictures anyway
With 4:3 you have more image vertical, horizontal is the same, so you have more to crop from :good:
One major annoyance of the OnePlus 7 Pro camera app is that it only supports aspect ratios 4:3 (which looks old-fashioned computery), 20:9 (ridiculously wide) and for some reason 1:1 (useless), and no sane aspect ratios like 16:9, or even better, the traditional 3:2.
So I've been looking at alternative camera apps. Many of them do support 16:9, some even 3:2, but I haven't found a single one that allows you to use the wide angle and zoom lenses of the 7 Pro.
Any tips?
Edit: I realize that all aspect ratios other than 4:3 just crop the picture from the sensor, and that I can do so myself afterwards, but I just want to point and click, and not have to worry about getting the subject in the to-be-cropped-part of the picture.
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