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[Q] Roms for Stock Firmware?

Hi
I'm very new to this custom rom thing, but not a complete noob...
I am curious if there are any custom roms that will work on stock firmware/kernel...?
I flashed Clockwork recovery and are using that at the moment
So far i have tried a lot of roms (mostly ICS ones) and the one ones working so far is one of the MIUI roms which i am using at the moment, but it laggs a fair bit.
I unlocked via HTC Dev tool and thus have a weird bootloader at the moment. Will flashing firmware remove this? will i be able to restore the original firmware from a backup i have already made?
Picture shows my current status.
Any suggestions for roms would be helpful.
Thanks

You are still s-on you need s-off to get root access. Get that one first. Then energy sense 3.5 is great stable Rom wich has stock kernal.
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jasminthoria said:
You are still s-on you need s-off to get root access. Get that one first. Then energy sense 3.5 is great stable Rom wich has stock kernal.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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+1 on the S-OFF. When you have it and rooted and custom recovery, make sure you do a Nandroid backup ASAP and keep it safe.
I liked CM7, then again I like AOSP ROMs in general. I was dual running CM7 (GB) and Virtuous Inquisition (ICS) on 1.23.0000 HBOOT for a while. Now gone over to 1.27.1100.

gol_n_dal said:
+1 on the S-OFF. When you have it and rooted and custom recovery, make sure you do a Nandroid backup ASAP and keep it safe.
I liked CM7, then again I like AOSP ROMs in general. I was dual running CM7 (GB) and Virtuous Inquisition (ICS) on 1.23.0000 HBOOT for a while. Now gone over to 1.27.1100.
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Sorry for noob question, but i've tried many things to get S-off, (incuding revolutionary.io) but nothing seems to work. Is there any way to get rid of the HTC unlocking thing and flash something else?

bman2309 said:
Sorry for noob question, but i've tried many things to get S-off, (incuding revolutionary.io) but nothing seems to work. Is there any way to get rid of the HTC unlocking thing and flash something else?
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Never Mind.
I found a guide published recently
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494158
Followed that, now i am S-OFF revolutionary with virtuous inquisition and new 3.24 firmware.
Thanks

Official ICS RUU, Radio upgrade, HBOOT upgrade

So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?

Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?

Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
Quark^2 said:
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.

You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.

[Q] Downgrade HTC Desire S from ICS 4.0.4 Sense 3.6 to GB 2.3.5 Sense 2.1

Hi Folks! I am completely new to XDA as well as all the android stuff, I used to be on Nokia before Forgive me if I have posted in the wrong section...
Basically I managed to upgrade my HTC Desire S to ICS 4.0.4 using the RUU on HTCDev.com. Having used it for about a month now, I want to go back to Gingerbread 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 as it is much easier on the battery as well as being much smoother to run. My problem is that from the shippedromes.com site, there are several gingerbread ruu's available, so out of this list (these are all europe), which one do i choose for Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 2.1?:
1. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe
2. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
3. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed.exe
4. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_234765_signed.exe
5. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe
To me they all look the same but obviously there is some difference as they have different numbers in their file names.
Thanks in advance!

The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

totalnoob34 said:
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Thnx for your quick reply,
My phone is already over 1 year, so warrenty is is gone anayway I think!
I understand the procedure to downgrade my phone, such as changing the HBOOT, unlock bootloader, S-off, revolutionary, clockwork recovery etc. But when it comes to actually installing/flashing the Gingerbread RUU, which RUU should I used? I wan to downgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.5 (the one that shipped with the phone originally) with Sense 2.1. I'm in the U.K, and my phone is unbranded. It is also currently running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 with Sense 3.6. If you could inform me which RUU I should use from the list in my first post I will be very grateful.
Thnx again

The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.

teadrinker said:
The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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Thanks alot! I think I will flash 1.28 first and see what it is. If not, I will probably flash 1.47 instead, which should be possible without anymore tinkering as it's a higher RUU.
And I definitely don't want Sense 3.0, I would rather stay on ICS then!
Thanks again for the quick answers!

There was never Sense 2.1 for this phone to begin with. Sense 3.0 is the earliest you can get.
This makes your question, well, void.
Any Gingerbread RUU will be fine.

1.28 is Sense 2.1.
1.47 is the same but with some fixes. I suggest to go with this.
The rest higher versions are with Sense 3, except the ICS RUU of course
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make sure u get the lowest version to get Hboot 0.98.0000 in order to proceed with the revolutionary to root ur device , if u have problem with scanoob post with the misc version let me know , his one doesnt work , i got working misc to downgrade the hboot.

Boot Looped :(

My dad asked me to root his HTC Sensation after seeing my HTC Sensation and all its rooted glory... Well his phone had a different HBOOT. Mine was 1.27.0000 and his was 1.28.something maybe 0000? Well anyways so my HTC Sensation was left S-ON and I just Enabled SmartFlash using 4Ext and mine booted fine. His however I did S-OFF and both our bootloaders are unlocked and both are rooted.
I tried installing a custom ROM (same on mine) and now his Sensation is in a bootloop... The custom ROM in question is Elegancia - Sense 4.1 v3.1.0
I feel like it might be because he was running Gingerbread (I believe) and I was running ICS. However he loved the custom ROM I was using so is there any way?

Duulicious said:
My dad asked me to root his HTC Sensation after seeing my HTC Sensation and all its rooted glory... Well his phone had a different HBOOT. Mine was 1.27.0000 and his was 1.28.something maybe 0000? Well anyways so my HTC Sensation was left S-ON and I just Enabled SmartFlash using 4Ext and mine booted fine. His however I did S-OFF and both our bootloaders are unlocked and both are rooted.
I tried installing a custom ROM (same on mine) and now his Sensation is in a bootloop... The custom ROM in question is Elegancia - Sense 4.1 v3.1.0
I feel like it might be because he was running Gingerbread (I believe) and I was running ICS. However he loved the custom ROM I was using so is there any way?
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Since the previous ROM was Gingerbread, the firmware would have been the older one. Just update the firmware to the latest 3.33 and the bootloops should be gone (if not try reflashing ROM after firmware update). There is a guide as well for updating the firmware.

Check the thread of the custom ROM you tried to install, it should state which firmware needs to be installed for this ROM.

nmaxim said:
Check the thread of the custom ROM you tried to install, it should state which firmware needs to be installed for this ROM.
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Elegancia needs 3.33 firmware.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Elegancia 3.1.0 Sense 4.1 using xda premium

Duulicious said:
My dad asked me to root his HTC Sensation after seeing my HTC Sensation and all its rooted glory... Well his phone had a different HBOOT. Mine was 1.27.0000 and his was 1.28.something maybe 0000? Well anyways so my HTC Sensation was left S-ON and I just Enabled SmartFlash using 4Ext and mine booted fine. His however I did S-OFF and both our bootloaders are unlocked and both are rooted.
I tried installing a custom ROM (same on mine) and now his Sensation is in a bootloop... The custom ROM in question is Elegancia - Sense 4.1 v3.1.0
I feel like it might be because he was running Gingerbread (I believe) and I was running ICS. However he loved the custom ROM I was using so is there any way?
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Hi,
If you want help,then, it is important that you post CORRECT information.
Otherwise you could be given wrong information which could lead to brick.
If he was running GB,then, his hboot would have been 1.18
If this is correct,then, post the COMPLETE hboot page,so that you can receive the correct guidance...
EDIT:
I notice you also have questions in the Help Thread.
Please keep your questions in ONE place.

[Q] Upgrading the radio on HTC One X

I have the HTC One X (At&t) and my phone has been rooted and unlocked. I'm running Viper XL 3.2.8 with the 3.17 radio, H-boot 1.14 and S-ON. I have heard about the Elemental X radio and also the 2.2 radio (via the Venom Hub on my phone). I'm not sure if they are the same or if they are different developers. I have heard from other forums that upgrading the radio will increase my signal strength and battery life. My question is, is this true and can anyone recommend any of these to me or if there are better ones? I will be updating my phone from S-ON to S-OFF soon.

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I have the HTC One X (At&t) and my phone has been rooted and unlocked. I'm running Viper XL 3.2.8 with the 3.17 radio, H-boot 1.14 and S-ON. I have heard about the Elemental X radio and also the 2.2 radio (via the Venom Hub on my phone). I'm not sure if they are the same or if they are different developers. I have heard from other forums that upgrading the radio will increase my signal strength and battery life. My question is, is this true and can anyone recommend any of these to me or if there are better ones? I will be updating my phone from S-ON to S-OFF soon.
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You're confusing Kernel's and Radios. You're on the latest radio. There is no upgrade. I don't suggest flashing kernels if you don't know what they are and what they do.

exad said:
You're confusing Kernel's and Radios. You're on the latest radio. There is no upgrade. I don't suggest flashing kernels if you don't know what they are and what they do.
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Sorry for the bad question, I should have said that I want to upgrade to Elemental X and 2.2 radio, I know the Elemental X is a kernel and the radio is the frequency (signal) of the phone. So even though the Venom Hub has a 2.2 radio, it is not compatible with my phone? Is the Elemental X compatible with my phone, with the ViperXL 3.2.8?

melemel said:
Sorry for the bad question, I should have said that I want to upgrade to Elemental X and 2.2 radio, I know the Elemental X is a kernel and the radio is the frequency (signal) of the phone. So even though the Venom Hub has a 2.2 radio, it is not compatible with my phone? Is the Elemental X compatible with my phone, with the ViperXL 3.2.8?
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You can flash any sense radio you like, worst case scenario, it won't work and you'll have to flash another radio. Kernels and radios are independent of eachother. Any Sense kernel will work with viperXL.
I don't recommend flashing anything through viperhub. It's dangerous since you don't have the file for yourself and cannot verify the MD5.

exad said:
You can flash any sense radio you like, worst case scenario, it won't work and you'll have to flash another radio. Kernels and radios are independent of eachother. Any Sense kernel will work with viperXL.
I don't recommend flashing anything through viperhub. It's dangerous since you don't have the file for yourself and cannot verify the MD5.
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Thanks for the info, I was not planning on flashing through the viperhub, I have TWRP and will be flashing through it. Is there any kernels you would recommend that will improve performance and battery life. I saw the details on ElementalX and does that well but I would rather get recommendations if any.

melemel said:
Thanks for the info, I was not planning on flashing through the viperhub, I have TWRP and will be flashing through it. Is there any kernels you would recommend that will improve performance and battery life. I saw the details on ElementalX and does that well but I would rather get recommendations if any.
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I do not find much increase in performance or battery life simply from flashing a kernel, I usually flash kernels for the features.