I have the HTC One X (At&t) and my phone has been rooted and unlocked. I'm running Viper XL 3.2.8 with the 3.17 radio, H-boot 1.14 and S-ON. I have heard about the Elemental X radio and also the 2.2 radio (via the Venom Hub on my phone). I'm not sure if they are the same or if they are different developers. I have heard from other forums that upgrading the radio will increase my signal strength and battery life. My question is, is this true and can anyone recommend any of these to me or if there are better ones? I will be updating my phone from S-ON to S-OFF soon.
melemel said:
I have the HTC One X (At&t) and my phone has been rooted and unlocked. I'm running Viper XL 3.2.8 with the 3.17 radio, H-boot 1.14 and S-ON. I have heard about the Elemental X radio and also the 2.2 radio (via the Venom Hub on my phone). I'm not sure if they are the same or if they are different developers. I have heard from other forums that upgrading the radio will increase my signal strength and battery life. My question is, is this true and can anyone recommend any of these to me or if there are better ones? I will be updating my phone from S-ON to S-OFF soon.
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You're confusing Kernel's and Radios. You're on the latest radio. There is no upgrade. I don't suggest flashing kernels if you don't know what they are and what they do.
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You're confusing Kernel's and Radios. You're on the latest radio. There is no upgrade. I don't suggest flashing kernels if you don't know what they are and what they do.
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Sorry for the bad question, I should have said that I want to upgrade to Elemental X and 2.2 radio, I know the Elemental X is a kernel and the radio is the frequency (signal) of the phone. So even though the Venom Hub has a 2.2 radio, it is not compatible with my phone? Is the Elemental X compatible with my phone, with the ViperXL 3.2.8?
melemel said:
Sorry for the bad question, I should have said that I want to upgrade to Elemental X and 2.2 radio, I know the Elemental X is a kernel and the radio is the frequency (signal) of the phone. So even though the Venom Hub has a 2.2 radio, it is not compatible with my phone? Is the Elemental X compatible with my phone, with the ViperXL 3.2.8?
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You can flash any sense radio you like, worst case scenario, it won't work and you'll have to flash another radio. Kernels and radios are independent of eachother. Any Sense kernel will work with viperXL.
I don't recommend flashing anything through viperhub. It's dangerous since you don't have the file for yourself and cannot verify the MD5.
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You can flash any sense radio you like, worst case scenario, it won't work and you'll have to flash another radio. Kernels and radios are independent of eachother. Any Sense kernel will work with viperXL.
I don't recommend flashing anything through viperhub. It's dangerous since you don't have the file for yourself and cannot verify the MD5.
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Thanks for the info, I was not planning on flashing through the viperhub, I have TWRP and will be flashing through it. Is there any kernels you would recommend that will improve performance and battery life. I saw the details on ElementalX and does that well but I would rather get recommendations if any.
melemel said:
Thanks for the info, I was not planning on flashing through the viperhub, I have TWRP and will be flashing through it. Is there any kernels you would recommend that will improve performance and battery life. I saw the details on ElementalX and does that well but I would rather get recommendations if any.
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I do not find much increase in performance or battery life simply from flashing a kernel, I usually flash kernels for the features.
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I am doing my research trying to learn more about the phone before I jump into my first flash etc. In the process of this I am confused about the radio version on my phone.
Everything I have seen so far indicates that the radio on my phone is a Desire radio not a inspire radio. Did this happen when I used the ACE kit to root the phone, did it change my radio version?
This is on my phone now... 12.56.60.25u_26.10.04.03_M
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That radio works fine on the Inspire with ATT. As a matter of fact, that is the Radio ATT included in the gingerbread update.
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Okay, thanks.
I was confused because the Radio sticky Thread in the Dev section lists my radio version as being a Desire Radio and the most recent Inspire radio as being 12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M? Since I have not flashed anything I was wondering how a Desire radio got on my Inspire but it sounds like the Radio sticky thread may not be correct?
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The radio you are using is FOR for the Inspire 2.47 gingerbread ROM. It is in fact ALSO the radio for the telus desire HD Gingerbread Rom. No big deal at this moment. When you flash a new custom ROM it will tell you the radio that you should flash for it. Just flash the recommended radio so it matches the ril of your ROM. So if you are running the 2.47 ATT Gingerbread ROM then you do have the correct radio.
Edited for correctness.
Agoattamer said:
The radio you are using is not the inspire radio for the 2.47 gingerbread ROM. It is in fact the radio for the telus desire HD Gingerbread Rom. No big deal at this moment. When you flash a new custom ROM it will tell you the radio that you should flash for it. Just flash the recommended radio so it matches the ril of yor ROM.
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HTC used the same radio for telus dhd and inspire gb roms. though they did include different rils. i believe telus came with ril 153 while inspire came with 160.
the OP did have a point, the latest one listed in the inspire radio thread is does not seem correct. The one listed actually belongs to build HTC Ace Gingerbread S KT-KR 2.52.1010.2. unless im wrong which is known to happen alot
Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M - Cingular_US_2.47.502.7
Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M - Telus DHD 2.43.661.1
Radio_12.59.60.26_26.11.04.21_M - HTC Ace Gingerbread S KT-KR 2.52.1010.2
OK, I think this is now correct. I apologize to biglittlegato as he was correct. The Radio thread does need updated as it doesn't even mention the Cingular (ATT) 2.47 Rom/radio.
im in a fix to flash latest ARHD ROM....but as i have the same OP's radio... do i need to flash recommended radio or i can use this stock radio with latest ROM??
misd said:
im in a fix to flash latest ARHD ROM....but as i have the same OP's radio... do i need to flash recommended radio or i can use this stock radio with latest ROM??
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As stated many many times all over this forum, you can use any radio you want. Everything may work well for you. And some things may not like gps connection for example. It is recommended to flash the recommended radio as it matches the ril in the devs thread. Best I can say is try it. But don't start posting that you have gps issues in the forum if you don't at least follow the dev's recommendations.
Is this possible? I've seen that the update is a .exe file. I'm already rooted and unlocked.
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yungskeeme said:
Is this possible? I've seen that the update is a .exe file. I'm already rooted and unlocked.
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install a recovery. I recommend twrp. To get twrp install goo manager from the play store. After that if you want the pure stock experience without the headaches it can bring install the rooted 2.20 that scrosler posted in dev. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
gunnyman said:
install a recovery. I recommend twrp. To get twrp install goo manager from the play store. After that if you want the pure stock experience without the headaches it can bring install the rooted 2.20 that scrosler posted in dev. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459
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So the rom comes 2.20? Wanted to keep clean Rom...so I have to choice.....any benefits to 2.20?
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Nope. If you are happy with clean rom stick with it. 4.5 incorporates the changes that come with 2.20 and android 4.04.
yungskeeme said:
So the rom comes 2.20? Wanted to keep clean Rom...so I have to choice.....any benefits to 2.20?
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Actually, this is 2.23 with AT&T bits blended in. It also has much of the bloatware removed. Scott has said there is practically no difference between 2.20 and 2.23 except the AT&T Stuff.
If you are still on 1.xx, it would recommend upgrading to 2.xx. The new ones are based on 4.0.4 and an updated Sense 4.0. It it much smoother, better multitasking and I get better battery life.
I would also suggest CleanROM 4.5 SE, since you will still have the stock experience and keep your unlocked bootloader and root.
You can do this without having to use the RUU, so it will be much easier.
nerk69 said:
Actually, this is 2.23 with AT&T bits blended in. It also has much of the bloatware removed. Scott has said there is practically no difference between 2.20 and 2.23 except the AT&T Stuff.
If you are still on 1.xx, it would recommend upgrading to 2.xx. The new ones are based on 4.0.4 and an updated Sense 4.0. It it much smoother, better multitasking and I get better battery life.
I would also suggest CleanROM 4.5 SE, since you will still have the stock experience and keep your unlocked bootloader and root.
You can do this without having to use the RUU, so it will be much easier.
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I'm running clean rom 4.5 se...I'm on 1.85...flashed the 1.89 radio
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So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
Quark^2 said:
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
I am running Jellytime RC11 on my HTC Inspire 4G on AT&T. What is the best/newest radio for me to use?
Quiglesigles said:
I am running Jellytime RC11 on my HTC Inspire 4G on AT&T. What is the best/newest radio for me to use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
Top of the second post.
I believe a newer one is around somewhere, but that one works for me.
Quiglesigles said:
I am running Jellytime RC11 on my HTC Inspire 4G on AT&T. What is the best/newest radio for me to use?
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With Radios you will get different opinions on them, best thing to do is try them and see what works for you. what works good for me may not work good for you.
Does anyone know what the newest one is?
Also, do I need to flash a RIL along with the radio? Or just the radio?
Quiglesigles said:
Also, do I need to flash a RIL along with the radio? Or just the radio?
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Just the radio. The RIL is for EDIT: Sense ROMs, and I think it's not even necessary for JB (if there was a Sense JB ROM).
EDIT: found newest radio from marsdta in the radio thread linked above. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29605945&postcount=1015
But if the RIL is for non-sense ROMs, isn't Jellytime a non-sense rom?
Quiglesigles said:
But if the RIL is for non-sense ROMs, isn't Jellytime a non-sense rom?
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Oops. RIL is for Sense ROMs. I edited my earlier post. Sorry about that.
a noob question
what does it matter to change radio, why do you change it? signal improvements maybe ?
galdoren said:
a noob question
what does it matter to change radio, why do you change it? signal improvements maybe ?
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Better battery and better signal mostly. Especially with sense ROMs certain rils work better with certain radios. Also some radios are not compatible with aosp or newer rils.
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Ok People,
I have the HTC One X AT&T I have installed Team Venom ViperXL 2.4.1 Sense 4.1.
My question is this,
Which Kernel should i use for better performance?, Better Battery?
I once tried installing a different kernel and OC'ed once i did that i got stuck in a boot loop.
Also i am not familiar with Under Voltage,
Can Someone who has the HTC One X AT&T and Venom ViperXL 2.4.1 Rom installed with different Kernel tell me what kind of setting you are using. OC? UC? and OV? or UV? that are stable and giving you good performance and battery
let me know
Thanks
I use elemental underclocked to 1.35
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area51avenger said:
I use elemental underclocked to 1.35
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what about under voltage and over voltage?
and you running under-clocked at 1.35 does that mess with performance at all? and how the battery life?
Elementalx overclocked to 2.0 and undervolted 800-1300 I get great speed and great battery on viperxl
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954wrecker said:
Elementalx overclocked to 2.0 and undervolted 800-1300 I get great speed and great battery on viperxl
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Thx 954wrecker :good:
It comes down to trial and error since each phone reacts different to certain settings. I tried different speeds and I honestly can't tell the difference between 1.3 and 2.0 on battery or on speed.
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Ok i am having a problem here.
i downloaded and installed Elementalx kernel
Now stuck at Viper Boot Screen since 20 minutes
what do i do now?
I do have the stock kernel downloaded also i can go back to stock, but why Elementalx will not boot?
Not sure but both viper and elementalx have forums with questions and answers for issues like this. I never had problems so I don't remember the answers sorry.
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954wrecker said:
Not sure but both viper and elementalx have forums with questions and answers for issues like this. I never had problems so I don't remember the answers sorry.
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how about Beast kernel, any good?
Try it, many people prefer it. Maybe you have issues based on the newer 2.2 firmware and hboot 1.14?
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rinnycoop121 said:
Ok i am having a problem here.
i downloaded and installed Elementalx kernel
Now stuck at Viper Boot Screen since 20 minutes
what do i do now?
I do have the stock kernel downloaded also i can go back to stock, but why Elementalx will not boot?
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Elemental will work fine with viper 2.4.1 (but not Viper 3 jelly bean)
Did you try again? Maybe the installer didn't complete properly the first time.
Do you have hboot 1.14? It will try to install on hboot 1.14 and may take a long time. For some people it won't install on 1.14 and you have to fastboot flash.
But if you can install stock kernel from recovery, you can install elementalx from recovery.
flar2 said:
Elemental will work fine with viper 2.4.1 (but not Viper 3 jelly bean)
Did you try again? Maybe the installer didn't complete properly the first time.
Do you have hboot 1.14? It will try to install on hboot 1.14 and may take a long time. For some people it won't install on 1.14 and you have to fastboot flash.
But if you can install stock kernel from recovery, you can install elementalx from recovery.
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Will you be making a compatible kernel for Viper XL 3.0 JB ? Been using your kernel on previous versions of Viper with good results. Thanks flar2