Now all varients of the moto g are receiving the stock 4.4.4 update. Can I restore back to that 4.4.4 stock firmware?? Where can I find the XML file or when would it be released?
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In theory, yes. But, if you have a soft-bricked Moto G buy downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, is most certain that you lost your IMEI, so if you can resolved the soft-brick, you still have a broken phone withou networt.
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In theory, yes. But, if you have a soft-bricked Moto G buy downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, is most certain that you lost your IMEI, so if you can resolved the soft-brick, you still have a broken phone withou networt.
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My phones not bricked,i dont know what it is, but its working, i can flash 4.4.4 roms, any other roms previous to 4.4.4 give me a encryption error? Fastboot gives me bootloader validation errors when trying to flash things.. its wierd man, like my phones in a custom rom comba ahha
So you think when they release the files for the stock 4.4.4 roms i can flash stock 4.4.4?
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My phones not bricked,i dont know what it is, but its working, i can flash 4.4.4 roms, any other roms previous to 4.4.4 give me a encryption error? Fastboot gives me bootloader validation errors when trying to flash things.. its wierd man, like my phones in a custom rom comba ahha
So you think when they release the files for the stock 4.4.4 roms i can flash stock 4.4.4?
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Yes, i think you can flash 4.4.4 ROM's.
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Is this possible???
Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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i see 3 topics too... That is awful cause mine is XT1033. i just convert it to GPE 4.4.2, OTA to 4.4.4. One sim works
So scary abt brick the phone cause i want to go back to stock 4.4.3
I mean 4.3 JB, not 4.4.3 KK =.=", it somehow felt a lot smoother in that version...But is downgrading possible from 4.4.4 GPE to 4.3 Motorola?
I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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I mean 4.3 JB, not 4.4.3 KK =.=", it somehow felt a lot smoother in that version...But is downgrading possible from 4.4.4 GPE to 4.3 Motorola?
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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Gpe makes change in bootloader and fastboot. So u cant downgrade via fastboot.
But if u have any nadroid of 4.3, u can revert back
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Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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I guess the point is partition.stock version use f2fs and gpe use ext4.so it have to reparttition if you want to convert a gpe to stock.but after OTA to 4.4.4 , the gpt.bin(stock 4.4.2) can't be flash.It's that right
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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Could you please tell me how? I've been looking for 2 days, so many people are trying to do the same thing and there is absolutely no information
My phone is xt1034 unlocked bootloader version 4111, received 4.4.2 and upgraded manually to 4.4.4 and would like to downgrade to 4.3 to hopefully solve the alarm problem and the internet connection stability, as these sometimes drive me crazy!
Thank you
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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how the hell did you do it? if you're on 4.4.3+ you shouldn't be able to downgrade your motoboot, and if you do it completely bricks the bootloader. i know because i tried. i tried the restore to stock guide but it didn't work on my xt1034.
K finally got back to 4.4.3 Stock, but still cannot make it to 4.3 (version downgraded for boot, partition and motoboot)
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K finally got back to 4.4.3 Stock, but still cannot make it to 4.3 (version downgraded for boot, partition and motoboot)
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Take a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54635169
when you are on 4.4.2 u can try to go more in 4.3, should work, try with BR firmware if u got XT1032, or other region wich have 4.4.4 from whre u are starting to downgrade. then when you are in 4.3 just flash via fastboot other 4.3 region wich u want.
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Take a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54635169
when you are on 4.4.2 u can try to go more in 4.3, should work, try with BR firmware if u got XT1032, or other region wich have 4.4.4 from whre u are starting to downgrade. then when you are in 4.3 just flash via fastboot other 4.3 region wich u want.
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Thanks for your reply but it'll only works with 4.4.2, there's no way of downgrading it further to 4.3...
EDIT: I recall reverting from 4.4.2 to 4.3 a long time ago, which I forgot to flash the motoboot.img, which then caused a bootlogo loop (not boot animation loop). Is it the case here that motoboot.img can't be downgraded anymore?
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Thanks for your reply but it'll only works with 4.4.2, there's no way of downgrading it further to 4.3...
EDIT: I recall reverting from 4.4.2 to 4.3 a long time ago, which I forgot to flash the motoboot.img, which then caused a bootlogo loop (not boot animation loop). Is it the case here that motoboot.img can't be downgraded anymore?
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i was on same bootloader loop,i bricked my phone wich same,i started to downgrade without searching a bit.i didnt known will cause a brick. in that post i explained how i succesfully downgraded from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. When u are on 4.4.2 then it should work to downgrade one more to 4.3. for me it worked to downgrade till 4.4.2 , more i dont continued cuz i wanted just to go on 4.4.2 to convert in GPE again, but should work.
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i was on same bootloader loop,i bricked my phone wich same,i started to downgrade without searching a bit.i didnt known will cause a brick. in that post i explained how i succesfully downgraded from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. When u are on 4.4.2 then it should work to downgrade one more to 4.3. for me it worked to downgrade till 4.4.2 , more i dont continued cuz i wanted just to go on 4.4.2 to convert in GPE again, but should work.
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Yeah it worked like you said, but only for downgrading to 4.4.2, not 4.3. 4.3 rom required a different bootloader (i think) so with the upgraded bootloader which comes along with 4.4.3 and 4.4.4, it won't work anymore since the bootloader can no longer be downgraded.
There is a serious bug that Motorola have patched in 4.4.3 / 4.4.4. Not only is it very dangerous to mess around with downgrading / updating bootloader, but if you start experiencing the sudden battery drop issue you will regret ever having tried.
From my experience of updating and downgrading.
Once you update from 4.4.2 to higher version number you can no longer downgrade to 4.3. The lowest you can downgrade back to is 4.4.2 from 4.4.4. Also relocking bootloader doesn't seem to work while downgrading only works when re flashing the same stock firmware.
Once you update from 4.4.2 to higher version number you can no longer downgrade to 4.3. The lowest you can downgrade back to is 4.4.2 from 4.4.4
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What if you went from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, then from 4.4.2 to 4.3? Will that work? I am desperately trying to get back to Jelly Bean as I hate KitKat, but I am unable to as I went to 4.4.4 Stock Rom (XT1032, Retail GB firmware version).
Can you explain me how you did that?
Once Bootloader has been updated by flashing 4.4.2 or newer, there is no going back. Even with a nandroid backup, I suspect there is a check in the 4.3 kernel regarding Bootloader version and it won't progress. There was only ever one custom kernel for 4.3 made by @faux123, but I cannot locate it since he removed the download.
Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
Sandivisi said:
my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
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you mean the hard brick when your pc only detects it as qcom-something? that's bad for you
I only softbricked mine luckily, but I'll let you know anyway I felt damn stupid when I couldn't boot my phone because of my sudden impatience after waiting months from this update, just because didn't wait a little more
iirc there are some methods on the forum I think using that tool I mentioned to get it back, good luck with that
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Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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I suggest you not to downgrade to 4.4.4 as of now. you flashed OTA and you are in lollipop now.. Enjoy.... And wait for official release OTA for Xt1032 and firmware files. Once it released, Devs will surely create flashable zips... then you can reflash your version lollipop... People reporting bricks and many dspaly issue when they tried downgrading it..
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Sandivisi said:
my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
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Why did you downgrade to 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.4 ?
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I suggest you not to downgrade to 4.4.4 as of now. you flashed OTA and you are in lollipop now.. Enjoy.... And wait for official release OTA for Xt1032 and firmware files. Once it released, Devs will surely create flashable zips... then you can reflash your version lollipop... People reporting bricks and many dspaly issue when they tried downgrading it..
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Why did you downgrade to 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.4 ?
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because i dont have image file 4.4.4 . only file 4.4.3 on my pc
Okay so my moto g is on lolipop gpe converted, but i want to go back stock. i know how to flash it and stuff but is there a chance i can brick it due to bootloader differences or anything? like how do i go about this do i need 4.4.4 or is 4.4.2 ok? thanks. *URGENT*
To be safe, flash a 4.4.4 ROM but don't flash motoboot.img even if you don't have the 41.18 bootloader.
I was able to flash my xt1032 with the 41.18 bootloader back to stock Telus 4.4.4. I was even able to flash stock US Retail 4.4.4. I never tried 4.4.2 and I never flashed motoboot.img.
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To be safe, flash a 4.4.4 ROM but don't flash motoboot.img even if you don't have the 41.18 bootloader.
I was able to flash my xt1032 with the 41.18 bootloader back to stock Telus 4.4.4. I was even able to flash stock US Retail 4.4.4. I never tried 4.4.2 and I never flashed motoboot.img.
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how do i know if its 4.4.4 or 4.4.2??
You'll have to look at the Moto g firmware names. Sometimes, you have to guess. It;s important because you want to ensure that the modem in your phone supports the ROM and carrier.
Do you have the xt1032 (i.e. falcon)?
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You'll have to look at the Moto g firmware names. Sometimes, you have to guess. It;s important because you want to ensure that the modem in your phone supports the ROM and carrier.
Do you have the xt1032 (i.e. falcon)?
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yeah mate thats the one
What bootloader is on your phone? If you have the 41.18, you'll experience the ripple effect on your phone until you lock/unlock your phone using the lockscreen.
Hi,
the title says it all:
How can I apply the 5.0 OTA update on a rooted, unlocked Moto G XT1032 with CWM recovery?
I don't care about root anymore and I have used SuperSU to unroot the phone.
But in order to apply the update I need to install the stock recovery, otherwise the device will get stuck in a bootloop.
How do I do this? I have tried using MotoToolAIO and its "Flash Stock Recovery KitKat" button but get a
Code:
hab check failed for recovery
message every time I try.
Could you guys please tell me how to get the stock recovery installed on this phone? As I said I don't care about losing root and I don't mind relocking the phone if necessary. I would really appreciate any pointers you can give me. Possibly without losing my data & apps. Thank you.
This page apparently is supposed to contain all those stock files but it is broken: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
This manual seems to be helpful for similar cases, it did not help me, though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Download the stock 4.4.4 ROM for your phone, extract the recovery.img file, and flash it using fastboot commands.
You also need to be unrooted with the stock Motorola apps.
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Download the stock 4.4.4 ROM for your phone, extract the recovery.img file, and flash it using fastboot commands.
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If you think that solves the proble, well...yes. But where do I find that file? As I indicated the only possible source seems to be unavailable currently. I can't find any other.
Does anyone here have an XT1032 DE singleSIM recovery image lying around?
As I am currently living in South Africa and internet is not reall stable it would be amazing if someone could offer just the recovery file instead of the whole 500-600MB dump.
I have a Canadian xt1032 running stock Telus 4.4.4 firmware. Not sure if that recovery would work but I could find it if you want to try it.
Don't forget to unroot too.
I unrooted too using SuperSU and managed to restore the stock recovery using MotoTool (find it on XDA). These are the basic requirements for installing an OTA. But after the OTA is downloaded and I try to install it, the process starts and in about 10 seconds it displays "Error" and boots to 4.4.4 again. Any recommendations?
^^did you remove any of the stock Motorola apps?
No, and Motorola Update Services is updated to the last version.
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I have a Canadian xt1032 running stock Telus 4.4.4 firmware. Not sure if that recovery would work.
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I doubt it - and fear what might happen if it goes wrong, to be honest. But thanks a lot for the offer. I was able to locate a Retail package for the DE version and will try to download the whole beast, hoping that the connection is stable for these 3 hours.
Even though nobody answered me, I found out what's going on. Lollipop OTAs cannot be installed on modified devices.
You could try out some custom ROM if you are unable to get the official 4.4.4. Carbon and CM11 are some customs ROMs I know of.
There are great unofficial ROMs on the moto g xda forum too!! Don't forget to have a look.
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I'm thinking of Resurrection Remix 5.0.2
You could also check out mokee, crdroid, xperience. And don't forget to check out the ROMs in the forum list
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One question man. I have 4.4.4 installed. Do I have to install stock 5.X in order to get lollipop bootloader before installing any ROM?
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Even though nobody answered me, I found out what's going on. Lollipop OTAs cannot be installed on modified devices.
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how did you manage to un-modify your device? I just bought the Moto G (2013) and have unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP and haven't had any luck installing ANY firmware after 4.4.4.... I'm always getting stuck on the bootlogo and have to return back to stock 4.4.4...
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how did you manage to un-modify your device? I just bought the Moto G (2013) and have unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP and haven't had any luck installing ANY firmware after 4.4.4.... I'm always getting stuck on the bootlogo and have to return back to stock 4.4.4...
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You need to have factory firmware and recovery installed in order to update via OTA.
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Hi all,
I just tried to upgrade my old CyanogenMod from January to a recent nightly and got hit by an error caused by my old KK bootloader (http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...uently-questions-t2996087/page24#post59520890). The guy in that thread offers a supposedly official Brazilian Lollipop bootloader, but I'm a bit hesitant 1) downloading something like that from unknown origin on the net and 2) I have a UK XT1032 (I think it was unbranded, bought in Tesco), not Brazilian. So what are my options?
Can I get the official bootloader from Motorola, by downgrading to 4.4.4 and then get the OTA? Or is it not available yet for my phone?
If I were to do that, can I unlock/root the phone again and get a custom ROM or is there no unlock yet for the Moto stock LP stuff?
What are my options, besides staying on my January CM ROM?
Thank you very much for any input!
You could manually flash the GB 4.4.4 stock ROM for the xt1032, update apps, take the 5.02 OTA update, and be running a Lollipop bootloader.
I just flash manually stock 5.0.2
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I just flash manually stock 5.0.2
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Which version do you recommend for the xt1032?
Or, if you're skilled enough, just manually fastboot flash the tz, rpm, sdi, aboot and sbl1 partitions extracted from any 5.0.x OTA package for XT1032. I did the procedure on my 1031 (with corresponding files for the 1031, of course) and it worked nicely.
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here's one more option http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/rc-faq-cm12-frequently-questions-t2996087/post59520890#post59520890 .
it doesn't need the ota-update-way
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You could manually flash the GB 4.4.4 stock ROM for the xt1032, update apps, take the 5.02 OTA update, and be running a Lollipop bootloader.
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That sounds like a good plan. So
1) GB 5.02 OTA is already out for all XT1032 devices? I read somewhere else we're still waiting?
2) Is my phone still unlocked after this, i.e. can I install a custom recovery, root etc. and custom roms afterwards?
Thanks =)
The 5.02 OTA for GB ROM has been released from what I have read.
Once the phone is sim and bootloader unlocked, flashing ROMs, recoveries, etc. will not relock the bootloader or sim lock the phone.
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The 5.02 OTA for GB ROM has been released from what I have read.
Once the phone is sim and bootloader unlocked, flashing ROMs, recoveries, etc. will not relock the bootloader or sim lock the phone.
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That's great to know! My worries was about that flashing the bootloader could result in a newly locked one. Thank you very much!