Is this possible???
Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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i see 3 topics too... That is awful cause mine is XT1033. i just convert it to GPE 4.4.2, OTA to 4.4.4. One sim works
So scary abt brick the phone cause i want to go back to stock 4.4.3
I mean 4.3 JB, not 4.4.3 KK =.=", it somehow felt a lot smoother in that version...But is downgrading possible from 4.4.4 GPE to 4.3 Motorola?
I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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I mean 4.3 JB, not 4.4.3 KK =.=", it somehow felt a lot smoother in that version...But is downgrading possible from 4.4.4 GPE to 4.3 Motorola?
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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Gpe makes change in bootloader and fastboot. So u cant downgrade via fastboot.
But if u have any nadroid of 4.3, u can revert back
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Yes but with pain in the ass... So keep it like it is. A lot bricked phones right know because of the downgrade
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I guess the point is partition.stock version use f2fs and gpe use ext4.so it have to reparttition if you want to convert a gpe to stock.but after OTA to 4.4.4 , the gpt.bin(stock 4.4.2) can't be flash.It's that right
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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Could you please tell me how? I've been looking for 2 days, so many people are trying to do the same thing and there is absolutely no information
My phone is xt1034 unlocked bootloader version 4111, received 4.4.2 and upgraded manually to 4.4.4 and would like to downgrade to 4.3 to hopefully solve the alarm problem and the internet connection stability, as these sometimes drive me crazy!
Thank you
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I was able to downgrade form xt1033 4.4.4 to 4.3 but don't have idea about GPE
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how the hell did you do it? if you're on 4.4.3+ you shouldn't be able to downgrade your motoboot, and if you do it completely bricks the bootloader. i know because i tried. i tried the restore to stock guide but it didn't work on my xt1034.
K finally got back to 4.4.3 Stock, but still cannot make it to 4.3 (version downgraded for boot, partition and motoboot)
Zerelth said:
K finally got back to 4.4.3 Stock, but still cannot make it to 4.3 (version downgraded for boot, partition and motoboot)
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Take a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54635169
when you are on 4.4.2 u can try to go more in 4.3, should work, try with BR firmware if u got XT1032, or other region wich have 4.4.4 from whre u are starting to downgrade. then when you are in 4.3 just flash via fastboot other 4.3 region wich u want.
cheers
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Take a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54635169
when you are on 4.4.2 u can try to go more in 4.3, should work, try with BR firmware if u got XT1032, or other region wich have 4.4.4 from whre u are starting to downgrade. then when you are in 4.3 just flash via fastboot other 4.3 region wich u want.
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Thanks for your reply but it'll only works with 4.4.2, there's no way of downgrading it further to 4.3...
EDIT: I recall reverting from 4.4.2 to 4.3 a long time ago, which I forgot to flash the motoboot.img, which then caused a bootlogo loop (not boot animation loop). Is it the case here that motoboot.img can't be downgraded anymore?
Zerelth said:
Thanks for your reply but it'll only works with 4.4.2, there's no way of downgrading it further to 4.3...
EDIT: I recall reverting from 4.4.2 to 4.3 a long time ago, which I forgot to flash the motoboot.img, which then caused a bootlogo loop (not boot animation loop). Is it the case here that motoboot.img can't be downgraded anymore?
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i was on same bootloader loop,i bricked my phone wich same,i started to downgrade without searching a bit.i didnt known will cause a brick. in that post i explained how i succesfully downgraded from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. When u are on 4.4.2 then it should work to downgrade one more to 4.3. for me it worked to downgrade till 4.4.2 , more i dont continued cuz i wanted just to go on 4.4.2 to convert in GPE again, but should work.
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i was on same bootloader loop,i bricked my phone wich same,i started to downgrade without searching a bit.i didnt known will cause a brick. in that post i explained how i succesfully downgraded from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. When u are on 4.4.2 then it should work to downgrade one more to 4.3. for me it worked to downgrade till 4.4.2 , more i dont continued cuz i wanted just to go on 4.4.2 to convert in GPE again, but should work.
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Yeah it worked like you said, but only for downgrading to 4.4.2, not 4.3. 4.3 rom required a different bootloader (i think) so with the upgraded bootloader which comes along with 4.4.3 and 4.4.4, it won't work anymore since the bootloader can no longer be downgraded.
There is a serious bug that Motorola have patched in 4.4.3 / 4.4.4. Not only is it very dangerous to mess around with downgrading / updating bootloader, but if you start experiencing the sudden battery drop issue you will regret ever having tried.
From my experience of updating and downgrading.
Once you update from 4.4.2 to higher version number you can no longer downgrade to 4.3. The lowest you can downgrade back to is 4.4.2 from 4.4.4. Also relocking bootloader doesn't seem to work while downgrading only works when re flashing the same stock firmware.
Once you update from 4.4.2 to higher version number you can no longer downgrade to 4.3. The lowest you can downgrade back to is 4.4.2 from 4.4.4
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What if you went from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, then from 4.4.2 to 4.3? Will that work? I am desperately trying to get back to Jelly Bean as I hate KitKat, but I am unable to as I went to 4.4.4 Stock Rom (XT1032, Retail GB firmware version).
Can you explain me how you did that?
Once Bootloader has been updated by flashing 4.4.2 or newer, there is no going back. Even with a nandroid backup, I suspect there is a check in the 4.3 kernel regarding Bootloader version and it won't progress. There was only ever one custom kernel for 4.3 made by @faux123, but I cannot locate it since he removed the download.
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Now all varients of the moto g are receiving the stock 4.4.4 update. Can I restore back to that 4.4.4 stock firmware?? Where can I find the XML file or when would it be released?
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In theory, yes. But, if you have a soft-bricked Moto G buy downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, is most certain that you lost your IMEI, so if you can resolved the soft-brick, you still have a broken phone withou networt.
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In theory, yes. But, if you have a soft-bricked Moto G buy downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2, is most certain that you lost your IMEI, so if you can resolved the soft-brick, you still have a broken phone withou networt.
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My phones not bricked,i dont know what it is, but its working, i can flash 4.4.4 roms, any other roms previous to 4.4.4 give me a encryption error? Fastboot gives me bootloader validation errors when trying to flash things.. its wierd man, like my phones in a custom rom comba ahha
So you think when they release the files for the stock 4.4.4 roms i can flash stock 4.4.4?
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My phones not bricked,i dont know what it is, but its working, i can flash 4.4.4 roms, any other roms previous to 4.4.4 give me a encryption error? Fastboot gives me bootloader validation errors when trying to flash things.. its wierd man, like my phones in a custom rom comba ahha
So you think when they release the files for the stock 4.4.4 roms i can flash stock 4.4.4?
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Yes, i think you can flash 4.4.4 ROM's.
I mean, i uptaded my moto g to Lollipop. But i didnt like it so much, so i've downgrade the phone to kk. But my device doesnt reboot anymore. It got stucked on 'Warning bootloader unlocked' screen. Tried restoring so much firmwares, roms, etc, no solutions.
How can i revive my phone? Hope you understand my fking english.
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I mean, i uptaded my moto g to Lollipop. But i didnt like it so much, so i've downgrade the phone to kk. But my device doesnt reboot anymore. It got stucked on 'Warning bootloader unlocked' screen. Tried restoring so much firmwares, roms, etc, no solutions.
How can i revive my phone? Hope you understand my fking english.
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I think the only way to revive is to go back to lollipop
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I think the only way to revive is to go back to lollipop
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Cant. Tried flashing again dual sim br and then the ota but i get ' Installation aborted ' everytime.....
It sounds like your Bootloader has been updated so you can no longer boot the KitKat kernel. Can you please state what version your Bootloader is now?
For example mine is: 41.13
This weekend I will try to build a Stock ROM based on Retail DS BR Lolliopop. That should get your phone back, as long as you have a custom Recovery installed.
Perhaps you could try to flash the full latest 4.4.4 Brazil rom; the OTA update to Lollipop might work on this one. Just not sure if it is safe to revert to an older bootloader on Moto G, never tried this myself.
If this doesn´t work or you don´t want to try, you will need someone to upload a full 5.0 ROM and look for a backup phone until then
My bootloader ver. is 41.18
i've tried reflashing br dual sim version and then the 5.0 ota. But it doesnt work.
Instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57297928
lost101 said:
Instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57297928
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Doesnt work that instructions. Tried every known method
lost101 said:
Instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57297928
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Follow the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...33-ota-5-0-lollipop-brazilian-t2963565/page47 by @AgentChaos
Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
Sandivisi said:
my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
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you mean the hard brick when your pc only detects it as qcom-something? that's bad for you
I only softbricked mine luckily, but I'll let you know anyway I felt damn stupid when I couldn't boot my phone because of my sudden impatience after waiting months from this update, just because didn't wait a little more
iirc there are some methods on the forum I think using that tool I mentioned to get it back, good luck with that
ianxblog said:
Hello. This thread is mainly for questioning/research/knowledge, as I don't have any major issue with my phone right now. I had retail ar firmware 4.4.4 with locked LB, converted to 4.4.4 Retail BR, tried to install the ota, it didn't (because locked bl) and when I tried to go back to retail AR i bricked (downgraded for boot) and I couldn't flash it properly due to preflash validation error (locked bl) so I unlocked BL and now everything works fine, and I sucessfully installed the XT1033 OTA on my XT1032, runs pretty good.
I've been reading on the incompatibility between bootloaders of 4.4 and 5.0.
For now I will wait to official update for XT1032 and flash that, but couldn't you just use the reflash bootloader tool that is around this forum and flash a 4.4.4 bootloader and all the stock firmware files? In case I for some reason wanna go back for 4.4.4.
If you install 5.0 on a 4.4 bootloader using cwm, does it work correctly? If it does, why do they update the bootloader in the first place?
Is there any working custom recovery for L? or in development? In case In the future when the OTA gets released I wanted to flash viper4audio (I'm priving myself of that beauty that I used on old phones just for the locked BL [warranty brah] but obviously not a problem now..) or I could just root and use one of those zip flashing apps? (I cant remember its name)
Thanks.
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I suggest you not to downgrade to 4.4.4 as of now. you flashed OTA and you are in lollipop now.. Enjoy.... And wait for official release OTA for Xt1032 and firmware files. Once it released, Devs will surely create flashable zips... then you can reflash your version lollipop... People reporting bricks and many dspaly issue when they tried downgrading it..
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Sandivisi said:
my phone now DEAD
Dead After downgrade to 4.4.3 then Update to 4.4.4 from 5.0
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Why did you downgrade to 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.4 ?
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I suggest you not to downgrade to 4.4.4 as of now. you flashed OTA and you are in lollipop now.. Enjoy.... And wait for official release OTA for Xt1032 and firmware files. Once it released, Devs will surely create flashable zips... then you can reflash your version lollipop... People reporting bricks and many dspaly issue when they tried downgrading it..
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Why did you downgrade to 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.4 ?
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because i dont have image file 4.4.4 . only file 4.4.3 on my pc
Hello, everyone!
I've been using an XT1032 for a long time now and flashed a lot of different ROMs and kernels on it. At some point this year, I decided the best combination was GPE KitKat with XPosed Framework. It worked great. Now, before Lollipop started to rollout OTA, I decided to give CM12 a shot and flashed various ROMs. As they are really buggy, I want to go back to KitKat.
But, I've seen that going to Lollipop can flash a new bootloader that can cause problems if you want to go back to KitKat. As far as I understand, this only happens if you update to Lollipop through OTA (or through fastboot one of the ROMs extracted from official Lollipop releases) and not when flashing the CM12 ROMs, but I really want to be sure:
Can I safely flash a KitKat ROM (like CM11)?
For help, thanks a lot!
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Hello, everyone!
I've been using an XT1032 for a long time now and flashed a lot of different ROMs and kernels on it. At some point this year, I decided the best combination was GPE KitKat with XPosed Framework. It worked great. Now, before Lollipop started to rollout OTA, I decided to give CM12 a shot and flashed various ROMs. As they are really buggy, I want to go back to KitKat.
But, I've seen that going to Lollipop can flash a new bootloader that can cause problems if you want to go back to KitKat. As far as I understand, this only happens if you update to Lollipop through OTA (or through fastboot one of the ROMs extracted from official Lollipop releases) and not when flashing the CM12 ROMs, but I really want to be sure:
Can I safely flash a KitKat ROM (like CM11)?
For help, thanks a lot!
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If you converted your phone to Brazilian firmware and side-loaded 5.0 OTA then your boot-loader was upgraded and will cause problems downgrading to 4.4.4 Kitkat. It's the same if you converted your phone to GPE and side-loaded the 5.0.1 firmware; boot-loader was upgraded. There are a lot of threads of people bricking their phones when they decided to downgraded, so if you did any of the following stay on Lollipop. If you had Kitkat and just flashed CM12 and never flashed Official Lollipop then you are safe since the boot-loader was not upgraded. Just to feel safe boot into Fastboot Mode and make sure your boot-loader is 41.13. If it's different don't flash stock KitKat ROM.
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If you converted your phone to Brazilian firmware and side-loaded 5.0 OTA then your boot-loader was upgraded and will cause problems downgrading to 4.4.4 Kitkat. It's the same if you converted your phone to GPE and side-loaded the 5.0.1 firmware; boot-loader was upgraded. There are a lot of threads of people bricking their phones when they decided to downgraded, so if you did any of the following stay on Lollipop. If you had Kitkat and just flashed CM12 and never flashed Official Lollipop then you are safe since the boot-loader was not upgraded. Just to feel safe boot into Fastboot Mode and make sure your boot-loader is 41.13. If it's different don't flash stock KitKat ROM.
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I just flashed CM12 over Kitkat without every flashing official Lollipop. I did what you suggested and my Bootloader is still 41.13, so everything is OK. Thanks a lot!
Here's the scenario:
I converted Moto G XT1033 4.4.4 to GPE 4.4.2
Then upgraded to GPE 4.4.4 and GPE 5.0.1, both by OTA
GPE 5.0.1 OTA ended up in softbrick
So now I cannot repeat the process beacause of the new bootloader, GPE 5.0.1 OTA brought with itself. And that bootloader would cause a hardbrick if I tried GPE 4.4.4 OTA on the device now
Questions: (No question is related to the other)
Would I be able to install Stock Lollipop OTA when I get one on 'Stock rom'? (I can revert to Stock 4.4.4) Would Stock Lollipop OTA mess up with the current bootloader, GPE Lollipop OTA has installed?
Is there any way I could flash Lollipop Stock image later, when it's available?
What can I do to set things right with the 'bootloader messup' that's caused right now?
Thanks, in advance!
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Here's the scenario:
I converted Moto G XT1033 4.4.4 to GPE 4.4.2
Then upgraded to GPE 4.4.4 and GPE 5.0.1, both by OTA
GPE 5.0.1 OTA ended up in softbrick
So now I cannot repeat the process beacause of the new bootloader, GPE 5.0.1 OTA brought with itself. And that bootloader would cause a hardbrick if I tried GPE 4.4.4 OTA on the device now
Questions: (No question is related to the other)
Would I be able to install Stock Lollipop OTA when I get one on 'Stock rom'? (I can revert to Stock 4.4.4) Would Stock Lollipop OTA mess up with the current bootloader, GPE Lollipop OTA has installed?
Is there any way I could flash Lollipop Stock image later, when it's available?
What can I do to set things right with the 'bootloader messup' that's caused right now?
Thanks, in advance!
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You are another who has made a stupid mistake, you should HAVE READ MY THREAD!
You need to wait untill the Lollipop Factory images are published, then we can get a blankflasher and restore your bootloader.
Once your bootloader is working again, you can flash Lollipop without problems.
You need to wait 1 or 2 months.
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You are another who has made a stupid mistake, you should HAVE READ MY THREAD!
You need to wait untill the Lollipop Factory images are published, then we can get a blankflasher and restore your bootloader.
Once your bootloader is working again, you can flash Lollipop without problems.
You need to wait 1 or 2 months.
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Nope. I did read your thread after softbrick. And that's why I didn't install any OTA's after v5's.
I flashed 4.4.4. It's not an OTA!
I'm currently running 4.4.4 on 5.x bootloader.
Now what I'm asking is,
Would I be able to install 5.x OTA when I get it?
Before the factory image and all that thing.
PS: 5.x hasn't arrived for general public in INDIA yet. What I was trying was Brazil OTA.