I apologize for asking this question since there are several variants of it all over this forum. I just haven't quite found the answers I'm looking for.*
When you read this and respond, please keep in mind that I am a major noobie. Pretend you're talking to a child. **
My reason for wanting to root is to take advantage of certain apps like BoostVolume, AdAway and TitaniumBackup (can't remember the others I wanted...).
At this time, I don't want to install a custom ROM. I'm just not ready to take that chance.*
So...
Can I get some of the benefits of rooting without installing a custom recovery?*
* * *If so, what will I gain and lose by doing this?*
* * *Will I still get OTA updates? *Will an OTA update remove root access?
For some reason, I'm really stuck on continuing to get OTA updates...I guess I don't want the responsibility.
There are good threads for "major noobies" to read.
Start with the "read before you root" thread at the top of this q&a forum. Also, search general for "ota help-desk". There is a rooting thread stuck at the top of general too.
Please read those then let is know if you have any questions
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Yes it's worth it. Do it. Boff
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I have to root every android machine I ever had.
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You can't do anything that useful without root.
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And ota's to me are a waste. I just wait for flashable files.
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I need help finding correct root program for my Zeki tbdg1073b. Anyone please help.
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Just unlock it all wile your hooked up to ADB and you won't have to worry about it .so easy after your Computer/PC is set up with ADB,FASBOOT,SDK.
Remember Google is your best friend
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rootSU said:
There are good threads for "major noobies" to read.
Start with the "read before you root" thread at the top of this q&a forum. Also, search general for "ota help-desk". There is a rooting thread stuck at the top of general too.
Please read those then let is know if you have any questions
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Thanks so much! *I've been searching and reading all week, and I either found conflicting answers or unclear answers...frustrating.
I had read "Before you root" previously, but hadn't yet found the Beginner thread (top of General), which has been the most helpful.
kj2112 said:
You can't do anything that useful without root.
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And ota's to me are a waste. I just wait for flashable files.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why I'm leery of flashing the updates. I guess I have to take it slowly and start with rooting (without custom recovery).
I don't think you can root without custom recovery. Don't worry about it. If anything goes wrong, which is very very unlikely, you can restore to stock in fastboot.
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If you are going to root, I really suggest getting s custom recovery too. Then you can make a nandroid backup and generally undo most problems that may happen by returning to that "snapshot" of the os.
But using fast boot to restore a factory image will fix these too, with stock recovery, but will erase data.
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pepdavies said:
I don't think you can root without custom recovery. Don't worry about it. If anything goes wrong, which is very very unlikely, you can restore to stock in fastboot.
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Here is a root without recovery by the SuperSU dev chainfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683
I do recommend that you also install a recovery for the reasons posted by others in this thread.
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pepdavies said:
I don't think you can root without custom recovery. Don't worry about it. If anything goes wrong, which is very very unlikely, you can restore to stock in fastboot.
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You can root by booting into a custom recovery and then flashing supersu, fastboot boot recovery.img. You don't need to install one.
jd1639 said:
You can root by booting into a custom recovery and then flashing supersu, fastboot boot recovery.img. You don't need to install one.
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Yep. To expand
fastboot boot recovery.img
Vs
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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rootSU said:
fastboot boot recovery recovery.img
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Its actually just "fastboot boot recovery.img"
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Chromium_ said:
Its actually just "fastboot boot recovery.img"
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Of course. Sorry, I forgot to remove partition destination in copy / paste.
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I've never managed to boot into recovery rather than flash it. It worked on my Nexus S.
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helioXverse said:
If you are going to root, I really suggest getting s custom recovery too. Then you can make a nandroid backup and generally undo most problems that may happen by returning to that "snapshot" of the os.
But using fast boot to restore a factory image will fix these too, with stock recovery, but will erase data.
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Sounds like nandroid backup is the way to go so I don't have to lose data. Thanks!
3DSammy said:
Here is a root without recovery by the SuperSU dev chainfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683
I do recommend that you also install a recovery for the reasons posted by others in this thread.
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I had planned on using CF-auto-root, so I didn't need a custom recovery. I had based that on my fear of changing too much, but I also saw this, which I'm probably misunderstanding?
From Chainfire: (I am personally moving away from custom kernels and recoveries, for various reasons).
The more I think I understand, the more confused I get. It seems I'm getting lost in the terminology. To completely understand my options, I need to back up and go through the definitions and CLI commands again. A lot of what you're saying is going over my head. I think I've read too much and some information just isn't sticking.
angied said:
I had planned on using CF-auto-root, so I didn't need a custom recovery. I had based that on my fear of changing too much, but I also saw this, which I'm probably misunderstanding?
From Chainfire: (I am personally moving away from custom kernels and recoveries, for various reasons).
The more I think I understand, the more confused I get. It seems I'm getting lost in the terminology. To completely understand my options, I need to back up and go through the definitions and CLI commands again. A lot of what you're saying is going over my head. I think I've read too much and some information just isn't sticking.
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Don't worry. It's actually very easy. If you know about 2 fastboot commands you'll know just about anything you need to.
fastboot oem unlock, unlocks the bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, puts a custom recovery on your phone
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47025283
Does twrp ver 2.7.0.0 work on a 4.4.3 rom ?
Has anyone tried it?
is there any problem؟
plz
It doesn't work on any Rom. It's completely independent.
Please read sticky threads to get background information on Android, recovery, bootloaders etc. The one at the top of this forum
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Does twrp ver 2.7.0.0 work on a 4.4.3 rom ?
Has anyone tried it?
is there any problem؟
plz
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No problems. Works fine.
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Does twrp ver 2.7.0.0 work on a 4.4.3 rom ?
Has anyone tried it?
is there any problem؟
plz
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As already said, It's independent.
But. I assume that you flash recovery using apps like Flashify or Goo im, right?
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As already said, It's independent.
But. I assume that you flash recovery using apps like Flashify or Goo im, right?
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Or fastboot, that's what I'd use.
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Or fastboot, that's what I'd use.
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I flash via fastboot as well. I was trying to say that if he is concerned about compatibility is because he maybe uses goo im instead of fastboot method.
So, if he used fastboot instead of apps, he wouldn't have that confusion.
Hey guys I just got back from a 6 month deployment. And once I got back to the states I got the update icon on my phone. I am looking for a good ROM to flash and I have totally brain farted on how to make sure TWRP is up to date. I went to goo manager and it says everything is up to date.
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Latest twrp is - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z1uaefffkfiwequ/TWRP-2.7.1.1-Hammerhead.zip just flash it in the twrp you currently have
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Cool thanks worked. Now just need to decide what ROM to flash.
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Thank you for your service. Don't use GooManager, it's unstable and causes many problems. TeamWin doesn't even recommend GooManager anymore. If you must use an app they recommend TWRP Manager.
Sorry to start a whole thread over this question, but I am looking for one of the above recoveries for my Note pro (P-900) and haven't had much luck. Anybody know of either of them? Thanks...
Neither one has been developed for the P900.
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Thank you..
TWRP is available, why do you need a different recovery?
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TWRP is available, why do you need a different recovery?
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Couldn't get TWRP to work on my P907a. As far as I know there are none for the US AT&T model. Right?
Have you tried this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706982
[TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][ 2.8][RECOVERY] TWRP 2.8.4.x TeamWin Recovery Project 1/14
Should work for both processor types...
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TWRP is available, why do you need a different recovery?
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Tonv said:
Have you tried this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706982
[TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][ 2.8][RECOVERY] TWRP 2.8.4.x TeamWin Recovery Project 1/14
Should work for both processor types...
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Tried that one and the newer version, both with ODIN and zip installs. No luck. ODIN always fails and zip install always encounter problems and always boots back into stock recovery (whether I let it reboot fully or boot straight into recovery mode). Thanks for the help though.
Hi everyone , i was wondering if any of you guys found a good way to root the latest version version , i tried to manually root via recovery but nothing , please let me know if any of you guys sucessfully did , thanks in addvance .
Yes, pretty much everybody, I'd guess. What method did you use? SuperSU? Doitright?
Best to think of all the answers you want and supply the info up front - you save everybody a lot of time, not least yourself.
I used SuperSU , 3 or 4 different versions 3 betas and 1 not beta then bootloop after every SuperSU installation .. Then I flashed the boot partition again and I removed the bootloop but the root was not there ..
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I rooted my N5 with SuperSU 2.67 Beta. I am running stock kernel and stock recovery.
kaushikd said:
I rooted my N5 with SuperSU 2.67 Beta. I am running stock kernel and stock recovery.
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So you rooted your device with stock recovery installed .. How?
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BlackVader said:
So you rooted your device with stock recovery installed .. How?
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What I did:
1. Flashed all images except the userdata.
2. Boot with TWRP and flash SuperSU.
3. Reboot and done.
kaushikd said:
What I did:
1. Flashed all imaged except the userdata.
2. Boot with TWRP and flash SuperSU.
3. Reboot and done.
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You flashed the images by recovery or adb?
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You flashed the images by recovery or adb?
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I flashed using adb only.
I found a solution , and I made a tutorial also. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3356126
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