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[Q] Noob question about LTE/4G

I'm thinking about getting this phone for my wife and I was just wondering if it will only be HSPA+ or will it support AT&T LTE whenever it comes out? Thanks.

It is HSPA+ not LTE phones by ATT yet seeing as there is not enough coverage i guess but HSPA works GREAT super fast speeds

malicenfz said:
I'm thinking about getting this phone for my wife and I was just wondering if it will only be HSPA+ or will it support AT&T LTE whenever it comes out? Thanks.
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Nope, that's a hardware requirement.
I am pretty sure you need a different radio (hardware) for LTE.

Papi4baby said:
Nope, that's a hardware requirement.
I am pretty sure you need a different radio (hardware) for LTE.
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by the time att gets lte nationwide the phone will be obsolete. if you are thinking verizon instead, well there data in many areas is not even worth having. my friend has a thunderbolt and gets 20 mbps in manhatten, but at home in orange county he is lucky to get 500kbps at times. i get 5-6 mbps anywhere. which one is better? you tell me.

Hmm well this is for my wife I just want to mess with it for a while I don't have upgrade anyways haha I'm waiting until the Galaxy S2

Papi4baby said:
Nope, that's a hardware requirement.
I am pretty sure you need a different radio (hardware) for LTE.
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Given that they're relatively recent too, probably very heavy on the battery. Takes time to get the modem optimized... Phone manufacturers are still trying to get 3g modems' usage right. I still go on 2G EDGE or turn off data for the most part to get more juice.

"Mobile Tech Review" Sensation 4G Review

Very in-depth review. 18min long! She seemed to like it a lot.
Shows video quality and HDMI out along with unboxing.
It got me pretty excited!
http://youtu.be/HcXzqoZyZ3k

It took some hard convincing but I think I'm finally sold mainly due to late release of the Galaxy S2 since I will be needing the phone by August. So HTC here I come.

I can watch videos for this phone all day... thanks for finding one that's 18 minutes long!
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This was probably the best video review I've seen so far.

9 Mbps up and 3 Mbps down...impressive. Almost LTE-like.

Whats the difference between this and the European version?

mazinya said:
Whats the difference between this and the European version?
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1 difference I've noticed is that the US version has 1 more contact point on the back for the antenna

I see the specs are similar

aNYthing24 said:
9 Mbps up and 3 Mbps down...impressive. Almost LTE-like.
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Isn't LTE 100Mbps? Because here in Greece, we have a small area covered with LTE (which expands over time) and they claim that you can get up to 100Mbps if you have an LTE phone or usb modem..

mazinya said:
I see the specs are similar
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The T-Mobile version might have different UMTS bands. All of the unboxing videos I've seen thus far say it has the 1900 MHz band. It might be a typo, though.

giorgisp said:
Isn't LTE 100Mbps? Because here in Greece, we have a small area covered with LTE (which expands over time) and they claim that you can get up to 100Mbps if you have an LTE phone or usb modem..
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That's the theoretical speeds. Whatever carriers tell you (in the US anyway), is usually theoretical. In actuality, Verzion's LTE network usually gets 10 Mbps up and 5 Mbps down on average.

xnifex said:
1 difference I've noticed is that the US version has 1 more contact point on the back for the antenna
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It may be because it supports the 1700 band for 4G (one extra band than the European) and it needs and extra antenna for it too. Did the reviewer show the back cover from the inside so we can see what's behind the hole?
PS: Please someone tell me how the damn multi-quote works

aNYthing24 said:
That's the theoretical speeds. Whatever carriers tell you (in the US anyway), is usually theoretical. In actuality, Verzion's LTE network usually gets 10 Mbps up and 5 Mbps down on average.
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Oh I see... That's happing here with the HSDPA+ where they advertise speeds up to 21Mbps and I've never got more than 2-3Mbps even when I'm next to a cell tower. I've never tried our LTE network though, because I haven't got any device that supports it (yet).

giorgisp said:
It may be because it supports the 1700 band for 4G (one extra band than the European) and it needs and extra antenna for it too. Did the reviewer show the back cover from the inside so we can see what's behind the hole?
PS: Please someone tell me how the damn multi-quote works
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Yes, the video does show the inside of the back cover so you can see the contacts.
To use multiquote just click on the button on the posts you want to multiquote If you have some form of autopaging on your browser however you need to actually load to the individual pages if the posts are on different pages. It doesn't seem to work over multiple pages (for me at least on Firefox with autopaging add-on), unless I actually load each page, click on the multiquote on the one post, then load the next page and multiquote the next post. You still need to click quote on the last post and then it should add all of the posts into one reply screen.

giorgisp said:
Oh I see... That's happing here with the HSDPA+ where they advertise speeds up to 21Mbps and I've never got more than 2-3Mbps even when I'm next to a cell tower. I've never tried our LTE network though, because I haven't got any device that supports it (yet).
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Same here man. T-Mobile advertises that some of their "4G" phones can get up to 21 Mbps down and I have yet to see anything like that. That's why I'm impressed by 9 Mbps down on the Sensation since it can only get up to 14.4 Mbps down max.

xnifex said:
1 difference I've noticed is that the US version has 1 more contact point on the back for the antenna
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ClydeB1 said:
Yes, the video does show the inside of the back cover so you can see the contacts.
To use multiquote just click on the button on the posts you want to multiquote If you have some form of autopaging on your browser however you need to actually load to the individual pages if the posts are on different pages. It doesn't seem to work over multiple pages (for me at least on Firefox with autopaging add-on), unless I actually load each page, click on the multiquote on the one post, then load the next page and multiquote the next post. You still need to click quote on the last post and then it should add all of the posts into one reply screen.
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There is something additional in the US Sensation "4G" compared to the EU-Vodafone, its not . I hope we find out before its too late. I really hated it when the TMOUS HD2 had the extras compared to our "lowly" EU models.

giorgisp said:
It may be because it supports the 1700 band for 4G (one extra band than the European) and it needs and extra antenna for it too. Did the reviewer show the back cover from the inside so we can see what's behind the hole?
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actually even the EU versions support that, it's listed as AWS & it's meant to mean 1700/2100 (down/up) for tmous.

omar302 said:
There is something additional in the US Sensation "4G" compared to the EU-Vodafone, its not . I hope we find out before its too late. I really hated it when the TMOUS HD2 had the extras compared to our "lowly" EU models.
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thanks for taking the time to point out what I saw so others can see it. As far as the HD2, I did like that the US version got the 1GB ROM, I'm sorry that you guys in the EU didn't.

What cable do you need to get that HDMI Mirroring?

Paul22000 said:
What cable do you need to get that HDMI Mirroring?
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MHL Cable. Here's the official one that comes with an HDMI cable. http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=218634 Pretty spendy. I'm sure you can find it way cheaper elsewhere.

Expansys is selling one that is much cheaper than the HTC one.. it also lets you simultaneously charge (just like the HTC dongle)
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
or in the UK:
http://www.expansys.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/

[Q] Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1

I was just about to place order on Amazon for the Samsung Note 10.1 32gb but then came across the unlocked version of the 10.1 16gb. My question is which one to get? I like that the unlocked version is 3g wifi but the American version isnt. Are these 2 tablets similar in specs aside from the 3G?
Any suggestions would be helpful. I want to buy it like tomorrow.
Thanks
Jacquie

Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.

Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1
blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks

boredy said:
Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.

blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.

boredy said:
Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.
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I'd say get the WiFi one if you are around WiFi a lot and don't need it on the run. If you are not around WiFi a lot get the 3g model and need it away from WiFi. And they are the same except 3g
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boredy said:
Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
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They're both the same specs wise. The difference between the N8000 and other wireless-capable tablets is that it's a full-fledged phone.
I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.

I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.[/QUOTE]
The N8000 only comes in 16bg right? Is there a 32gig out there? I mean 16 gig difference is alot? Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
I dont do much sync, I like that it has phone capability and I can use international data when I travel. I use it mostly for games, reading and movie watching. Currently I have Samsung Note phone and I love it! I also use my ipad 3.

Just a quick response to the second post. I've also seen on a few sites like Amazon and Walmart where they list some of the 32gb notes as being dual core and some as having only 1gb of ram. I'm sure it's a mistake of the website. Just wanted to share what I read.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.

TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.

boredy said:
Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
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Yes most if not all android tablets support flash in web browser, but you need to sideload it
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TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks

boredy said:
Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks
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Uh, really?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Uh, really?
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Uh really what? I am asking for help and not sarcasm. foh.

No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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KoRoZIV said:
No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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What's all these hostility in here?
I already have Ipad and just bought a 10.1 N8000 arriving tmw. You people have issues, I feel sorry for your life.
Merry Christmas!

It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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KoRoZIV said:
It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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I didnt see the post and you are too quick to give your assumptions by being sarcastic. What do you mean I deserve it? Who the heck are you to tell say that you bum. You coulda said something like someone already posted. but I guess you rather use sarcasm than being helpful. dude if I read it, why I would repost the question again? that's common sense for a normal person.
Get on with your woeful sarcasm life.

Relax "dude". Don't get mad, I'm the one with the issues...
Common sense will be not to quote the last post, to edit and correct your topic title, or to post in the correct section of the forum, but who am I to educate you.
My intention was not to offend you, I apologize if I did.
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[Q] The new T mobile LTE

I wanted to know if any 1 has any experience with LTE on the Blaze i am in New York t mobile tells me i have lte were i live i use tel-cell america its the same company as straight talk and uses tmobiles networks i get unlimited hspa plus but have not seen lte on my phone yet

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I wanted to know if any 1 has any experience with LTE on the Blaze i am in New York t mobile tells me i have lte were i live i use tel-cell america its the same company as straight talk and uses tmobiles networks i get unlimited hspa plus but have not seen lte on my phone yet
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And you never will.
our phones do not have LTE

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chjema said:
And you never will.
our phones do not have LTE
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I thought so i called they told me it is compatible well well i guess not.
now do i need lte or shall i be happy with 10 MB down and 2 up

tzvblsm said:
I thought so i called they told me it is compatible well well i guess not.
now do i need lte or shall i be happy with 10 MB down and 2 up
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We are capable of 42 down. So that is a bit slow.

chjema said:
We are capable of 42 down. So that is a bit slow.
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Megabits per second is different to megabytes...see here...5 megabytes a second max for 42mbps.
http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp?speed=42&unit=Mbps
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And everything with speeds is theoretically speaking
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tzvblsm said:
I thought so i called they told me it is compatible well well i guess not.
now do i need lte or shan't i be happy with 10 MB down and 2 up
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Those speeds are pretty average for tmobile's 4g. I normally beat my friends s3's Verizon LTE speeds (8-14mbps), so don't worry about not having the media hyped lte, for now.

Faster data with S4 compared to S2

Got a new S4 yesterday and running a few speedtests since, my preliminary conclusion is that this modem gives me slightly faster down and up speeds.
I have seen two tests that I have never seen before: two at 8 mbps and one at 9.7 mbps down
Two nice up speeds as well 1.65 mbps and one at 2.2 mbps
There is no LTE here.
I am comparing this with a Galaxy S2 also on AT&T with a variety of custom ROMs (task, derteufel, etc)

wavemaster00 said:
Got a new S4 yesterday and running a few speedtests since, my preliminary conclusion is that this modem gives me slightly faster down and up speeds.
I have seen two tests that I have never seen before: two at 8 mbps and one at 9.7 mbps down
Two nice up speeds as well 1.65 mbps and one at 2.2 mbps
There is no LTE here.
I am comparing this with a Galaxy S2 also on AT&T with a variety of custom ROMs (task, derteufel, etc)
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The S4 has a HSPA+ 42 mbps. The AT&T S2 (i777) only has 21mbps. Even though AT&T's HSPA+ network tops out at 21, you'll still get faster speeds since its it 42mbps.

wavemaster00 said:
Got a new S4 yesterday and running a few speedtests since, my preliminary conclusion is that this modem gives me slightly faster down and up speeds.
I have seen two tests that I have never seen before: two at 8 mbps and one at 9.7 mbps down
Two nice up speeds as well 1.65 mbps and one at 2.2 mbps
There is no LTE here.
I am comparing this with a Galaxy S2 also on AT&T with a variety of custom ROMs (task, derteufel, etc)
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I'm seeing a similar boost in speed for no explainable reason. The normal maximum in my area using my i777 on H+ had been roughly 3 down and 2 up, give or take a Meg. Now I am getting speeds up to 7 down and 4 up in the same places. I suspect it might have something to do with the new APN and the LTE-access data plan? Perhaps the network is giving priority over bandwidth to these customers to give a perceived speed boost after getting a new phone?
For a reference, my friend with my old Infuse is still getting the "old" speeds...

Aou said:
I'm seeing a similar boost in speed for no explainable reason. The normal maximum in my area using my i777 on H+ had been roughly 3 down and 2 up, give or take a Meg. Now I am getting speeds up to 7 down and 4 up in the same places. I suspect it might have something to do with the new APN and the LTE-access data plan? Perhaps the network is giving priority over bandwidth to these customers to give a perceived speed boost after getting a new phone?
For a reference, my friend with my old Infuse is still getting the "old" speeds...
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I have long suspected that AT&T is playing with dataspeeds of most of their customers.
speed up new clients (for a while);
slow down those that have 'modified' their phones;
etc.

wavemaster00 said:
I have long suspected that AT&T is playing with dataspeeds of most of their customers.
speed up new clients (for a while);
slow down those that have 'modified' their phones;
etc.
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Lol....slow down those who have 'modified' their phones. You have got to be kidding. A) They can't tell unless you are tethering and even then there are apps that will allow you to tether without rooting. B) Why would they care if you aren't running stock os. It isn't their os, but rather samung, htc, sony, etc. with att tossing in some apps and bloatware. They can slow your speeds if you are using a large amount of data, but not just because you're rooted or running a rom
Also, why would they slow down your data speeds after some time. It simply isn't a good business plan. You want consistent quality service for your customers so they will sign on the dotted line, contract after contract.
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Mike on XDA said:
Lol....slow down those who have 'modified' their phones. You have got to be kidding. A) They can't tell unless you are tethering and even then there are apps that will allow you to tether without rooting. B) Why would they care if you aren't running stock os. It isn't their os, but rather samung, htc, sony, etc. with att tossing in some apps and bloatware. They can slow your speeds if you are using a large amount of data, but not just because you're rooted or running a rom
Also, why would they slow down your data speeds after some time. It simopy isn't a good business plan. You want consistent quality service for your customers so they will sign on the dotted line contract after contract.
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But I still suspect they could have different bandwidth pools for their different APNs... If that is the case it might be just that there are less people on this APN...

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The S4 has a HSPA+ 42 mbps. The AT&T S2 (i777) only has 21mbps. Even though AT&T's HSPA+ network tops out at 21, you'll still get faster speeds since its it 42mbps.
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Isn't that achieved via MIMO (dual router connection)? Which currently only tmobile does. So that should not matter when testing AT&T's network.
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Here are my first 10 speedtests on the AT&T S4
There is no LTE here. Never ever have I seen such high speeds. My guess is down speeds are 30% better and up speeds 20% better.
9.6 1.26
6.1 1.28
8.6 1.22
4.1 1.27
11.6 1.28
9.2 1.26
8.3 1.27
9.7 1.65
7.3 1.27
8.0 1.27
My wife's Galaxy Note 2 is still on the typical old speeds I was getting before.
Amazing

shoman94 said:
Isn't that achieved via MIMO (dual router connection)? Which currently only tmobile does. So that should not matter when testing AT&T's network.
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Correct. AT&T only has hspa speed, not hspa+. They implement some of the improvements from hspa+, but they don't support what is broadly known as "mimo". Aka, the speed tops out at 14.4, despite technically being an hspa* network.
Hence the comparison is interesting, though I'm always loathe to take any one user's experience as a trend.
Still, definitely a good sign for the modem/firmware/antennas in the GS4.
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