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It's real, Apple demanded it back. Did you spot the little Android Robot in the video?
Not again please!!
Are we an iphone forum?
Sorry if I sound irritated, but you can´t imagine how many iph... thread I find around and we are not into that kind of news!
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I should sign up to iphone dev boards and post about HTC news!!!
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Are we an iphone forum?
Sorry if I sound irritated, but you can´t imagine how many iph... thread I find around and we are not into that kind of news!
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Nowhere in the rules does it say that people can't post about non-HTC phones. So quit being so frigging rude. This thread has at least got some merit unlike most of the crap that gets posted here every day.
The only thing that interests me about this new iPhone is the screen resolution. If it truly is 960×640 as has been rumored, Apple will have a serious advantage compared to other smartphones for awhile.
Last I checked the max res for WinMo and WP7 is 800x480, so even if HTC wanted to spring for a denser screen, it would not be usable. Maybe Android could pick up the slack.
To me, aside from having a hardware keyboard, high screen resolution is the number one priority.
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To me, aside from having a hardware keyboard, high screen resolution is the number one priority.
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agree. that is the reason i never interested in iphone cus of it' low ass resolution!
if this new iphone got high resolution, i mostly give her a try!
960x640 is almost too large a resolution for such a small screen. I'd much rather have 800x480 and 4"< of screenspace.
Just because a screen is high res does not mean everything has to be small. Really, screens have stagnated at low DPI's for far too long, cellphones seem to be one of the only devices that are seeing higher dentistry displays. While most monitors are still produced at 72 or 96 or whatever DPI, printed text on paper is well past 1,000.
Ever notice how big the screenshots of 800x480 cellphone screens appear on a desktop monitor?
If we ever want to use our little gizmo's as truly comfortable ebook readers, among other things, having a high DPI would be a big help.
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Just because a screen is high res does not mean everything has to be small. Really, screens have stagnated at low DPI's for far too long, cellphones seem to be one of the only devices that are seeing higher dentistry displays. While most monitors are still produced at 72 or 96 or whatever DPI, printed text on paper is well past 1,000.
Ever notice how big the screenshots of 800x480 cellphone screens appear on a desktop monitor?
If we ever want to use our little gizmo's as truly comfortable ebook readers, among other things, having a high DPI would be a big help.
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I get that, it's just that you won't see the benefit of having such a high resolution on such a small screen. I never could read a webpage on my Touch HD without zooming in a little, but with my HD2 I have no such problem. Think Apple really should have increased the size of the display to 4".
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I get that, it's just that you won't see the benefit of having such a high resolution on such a small screen. I never could read a webpage on my Touch HD without zooming in a little, but with my HD2 I have no such problem. Think Apple really should have increased the size of the display to 4".
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I'm with you on this point. I really like to see an iPhone with larger screen. However, I also think that resolution itself will bring about lots of benefits, in viewing pictures, in reading websites even without zooming in. It is nevertheless still better to increase the screen size a bit more.
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I'm with you on this point. I really like to see an iPhone with larger screen. However, I also think that resolution itself will bring about lots of benefits, in viewing pictures, in reading websites even without zooming in. It is nevertheless still better to increase the screen size a bit more.
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Apple will do that when it becomes very profitable. Perhaps when Apple's market expands and when it's being sold to other U.S. carriers.
Yes, I may skip the iphone 4G for a mini ipad if it ever comes along ~ 5 inches.
3.7 " - 4" would be a sweet spot for the iphone screen size.
I'm really tempted by the 4.3 inch screen size of HTC Supersonic, but then I see many ex-HD2 owners complaining on this forum that 4.3 inch is too big for one hand use. I don't have very big hand, unfortunately. So, I'm a little swayed by the 4.3 inch being too big idea. Perhaps 3.7 to 4 inch is the real sweetspot for phones?
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I'm really tempted by the 4.3 inch screen size of HTC Supersonic, but then I see many ex-HD2 owners complaining on this forum that 4.3 inch is too big for one hand use. I don't have very big hand, unfortunately. So, I'm a little swayed by the 4.3 inch being too big idea. Perhaps 3.7 to 4 inch is the real sweetspot for phones?
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I've got an HD2 and it's fine for one hand use. I'd still recommend going with Dell's Thunder instead due to HTC's latest phones all having some minor hardware issues.
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I've got an HD2 and it's fine for one hand use. I'd still recommend going with Dell's Thunder instead due to HTC's latest phones all having some minor hardware issues.
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You don't find it hard to alternate between reaching the top and bottom of the screen with your thumb without feeling awkward?
By hardware issue, you mean things like strange behaving screen, pink videos/pictures that requires software color correction? Or some other things?
Thunder looks interesting.
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You don't find it hard to alternate between reaching the top and bottom of the screen with your thumb without feeling awkward?
By hardware issue, you mean things like strange behaving screen, pink videos/pictures that requires software color correction? Or some other things?
Thunder looks interesting.
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Well the nexus one has 3G network issues(as does the HD2 to some extent), the HD2 had the pink issue and HTC still haven't addressed the sms issue.
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Well the nexus one has 3G network issues(as does the HD2 to some extent), the HD2 had the pink issue and HTC still haven't addressed the sms issue.
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Google has already announced that they will not fix the 3G problem, as this appears to be a hardware fault that they can't fix with software upgrade.
I wonder if the Desire have exactly the same issue?
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Google has already announced that they will not fix the 3G problem, as this appears to be a hardware fault that they can't fix with software upgrade.
I wonder if the Desire have exactly the same issue?
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None have reported having any issues with it yet, so maybe HTC corrected the error in their own device.
Really not sure if I should stick with HTC in the future since the support is generally lacking due to them having too many devices.
Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros
Have you even bothered researching your own claims, of course there are new 4" fones on the market!
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SGS2+.::Indie::.= Omega goodness
Love 'em. The bigger the better ;-)
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Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros
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I like bigger ones, to a point, too big gets uncomfortable to use, the sensation might be the biggest I can use (I have small hands) smaller screens are harder to see for me. my eyes are going. soon time for glasses.
i like S3 and One X but i think bigger phone like Note is great for the big screen but to unusefull for the too big dimention
I like very much but i think the Galaxy's SIII size is the limit to be cool.
Big phones are good to a point. The galaxy note is too large.
I do not see what the big problem is?
Why do people moan about size? It's perfectly fine size.
Smart phone that is. You just get used to them. Big deal. move on.
well that all depends on your use and really preference. I got the Note a month ago and dont regret it at all. Honestly when i pick up a captivate with 4 inch screen i have trouble using it. If i was to just want a smartphone for regular smartphone stuff instead of a tablet phone, then i would have to go under 5", but i like the option of screen real estate just in case. Its really just comes down to preference.
uhm...,
obviously I don't refer to Galaxy Note, its not a true smartphone at all.
It has been created for other purpose, and in this case I could agree with dimensions.
Anyway in my honest opinion:
1. For me it's a pain to stay more than 5 minutes in call with a SGII near my ear. Too big for one hand.
2. It is not so smart to use more than one finger to reach all the corners of the display.
3. It is not so handy
4. It is not so comfortable in pocket.
Have you even bothered researching your own claims, of course there are new 4" fones on the market!
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Yes, the only new smartphone the suite my needs is the Experia Sola, but it is not the top in the hardware.
I haven't found other smartphones with 3.7''-4'' display size and top hardware.
There is the HTC ONE S, that HTC says is "a compact size", but it is 4.3'' display!
Please, could you show me what smartphones you refer to?
The bigger the better ;-)
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Too generic.
smaller screens are harder to see for me. my eyes are going. soon time for glasses.
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Font size is indipendent from display size.
What is different is only the area to contain the stuff.
As example, I find the SGII default look&feel size too big and unaesthetic.
well that all depends on your use and really preference. .... Its really just comes down to preference.
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Yes, I fully agree with you;
but the problem is that not only I haven't the same wide choice of devices under 4'', but I think in a few months there will be no choice anymore for devices under 4'' !
Thank you for all the answers. Nice to know your opinion.
Regards
UnclePetros
The bigger the better If you ask me. Next time I`m buying something that can only fit in a backpack. I`m tired of 320 x 480. It depends on why you need it, ofc....
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The bigger the better If you ask me. Next time I`m buying something that can only fit in a backpack. I`m tired of 320 x 480. It depends on why you need it, ofc....
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yeah,bigger is better. the resolution is everything for todays mobiles phones
I think better is not really good after is break, 4.0 inch it is the maximum fro me
It depends on the user's hand, head and pocket size. Lol!
e.g. The Incredible Hulk will need at least a 7-inch tablet as a Smartphone.
Tinker Bell can use the iPhone as a big screen HDTV.
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UnclePetros said:
Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros
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i use to feel the same way. i remember the first time i bought my first smart phone it was an iphone. i remember walking into to the store and then walking out saying no way, no way it's just too big. and that was going from a small nextel push to talk phone. to the iphone 3g it was just way bigger it was like a monster compaired to my nextel. so it took me awhile too go back to store (about a month later) i eventually got the iphone 3g. and i remember thinking the whole time as i drove back home... this thing is too big i know i'm not going to like but i gave it a try. the first few days were hard i'm mean the size and the battery life was not what i was accustomed to. but i eventually git used to the size and the bad battery life.
my last iphone was a iphone 4. and my current phone now is a GS2 and now when ever i pick up an iphone it's just way too small i can't go back no way. i am now thining of the getting the note. at this point i have lerned to adapt the newer bigger phones and find myself never looking back to the old 3.5-4.0 days.
guess this guys video explains how i feel now.
http://youtu.be/cl6AHTNef-s
Like someone saldo it allí depends on the need. I heard somebody that those huge pones were made for People with big hands Like basketball and football de playero. I also heard that información japan all Phone were miniture and u can do anything with it.
i dont really like that Trend of bigger and bigger Phones, i mean, 4" is the biggest i would buy, first i had a Nokia N95 its was cool and for that time THE High End Device but it was really thick and i think the screen too small for Internet(2,6"), so i got a Nokia C6-00, bad performance but relativly good screen (3,2") in fact the Displaycable broke and i needed Replacement , now i changed to Sony Xperia P (4") and it fits perfect!
Two Friends of mine owned HTc One X and Galaxy SIII and i had both in my Hand but they are definitly too big by slightly low resolution change...
bigger or just nice
there are many phones just release and releasing soon in the android market.having alot of my time researching for specs of this upcoming phones,i can say that 4.2-4.8 inch display phones will become the norms in the near future.its about individual preference.i still stick to my nexus one.hehe.but have eyes on the s2(not s3 as for me the design is odd)..
I think there is a balance between too big and just right. Having said that, it is a moving scale, because everybody has different needs and uses for the device.
i don't like mini-laptop size any phones........
I've been realizing after I have used my 3.5 Inch screen of my IPod touch, then my slightly bigger desire, and finally my current Htc One X, that I am craving larger screens. Is anyone else here feeling the want for large screens who has large hands?
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I have small hands but I sorta got used to big screens. I remember when I first saw my best friends stratosphere (November or December 2011) I was bown away by its 4in screen.
Just recently a few weeks ago I saw another friend with an Atrix (same 4in screen) and I thought the phone was TINY!
My phones are small, but I'm craving for a galaxy s3 sized phone
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i won't use anything larger than 4"2
Coming from an iPhone 3gs I was afraid that the s2 was going to be too big. I love it now. But after seeing my co workers nexus 4.65 and brother in laws s3 4.8, I want to go bigger.
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I have small hands but I sorta got used to big screens. I remember when I first saw my best friends stratosphere (November or December 2011) I was bown away by its 4in screen.
Just recently a few weeks ago I saw another friend with an Atrix (same 4in screen) and I thought the phone was TINY!
My phones are small, but I'm craving for a galaxy s3 sized phone
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Haha, I can definitely relate to that feeling... There was a time when I could actually do stuff with friends HTC Magic... Now it's just tiny, I swear it's shrinking every time I touch it...
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Coming from an iPhone 3gs I was afraid that the s2 was going to be too big. I love it now. But after seeing my co workers nexus 4.65 and brother in laws s3 4.8, I want to go bigger.
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5 Years later
"Introducing the Samsung Galaxy NOTE 6, featuring a 6 Inch screen...." Actually I swear that will happen some time sooner or later seeing some people somehow fitting their nexus 7 into their pockets...
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5 Years later
"Introducing the Samsung Galaxy NOTE 6, featuring a 6 Inch screen...." Actually I swear that will happen some time sooner or later seeing some people somehow fitting their nexus 7 into their pockets...
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I read an article somewhere that said people would stop using phones and only use tablets as their phones in the near future.
Not for me though, 5 inches and above is too big. 4.9 inches max
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Ever since I left the 4" screened Captivate I've hated every screen since. Bigger screens offer me nothing but reduced PPI and inability to use one-handed.
It's one of the highest reasons I'm considering getting an iPhone 5... no one else seems interested in making acceptable phone screen sizes. It's sad/frustrating/annoying.
i used a galaxy tab 7 as my phone for months :laugh:
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Ever since I left the 4" screened Captivate I've hated every screen since. Bigger screens offer me nothing but reduced PPI and inability to use one-handed.
It's one of the highest reasons I'm considering getting an iPhone 5... no one else seems interested in making acceptable phone screen sizes. It's sad/frustrating/annoying.
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I can understand the one handed thing, if its just fine for you, then thats fine.
but for me, the way the iphone's straight up rectangular shape is, its just weird to hold in the hand, especially because of the tiny width. Talking about the s3 specifically, the curves on the edges make it feel less gigantic and more natural to hold in the hand. And there are tons of sizes available from every OEM. They just focus on larger for their flag ships because of the added functionallity.
Also, is "reduced ppi" REALLY going to kill you?
" Ahhh! A really tiny little pixel oh god my eyes!!!!"
( oh yeah, and nice icon...a**hole )
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no one else seems interested in making acceptable phone screen sizes. It's sad/frustrating/annoying.
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Ehhh.. sorta selfish statement, no? T-mobile conducted a survey and 70% or so wanted bigger phones. "Acceptable" is different in your eyes than other peoples eyes.
Likewise, I don't dislike smaller screens, just because I prefer a bigger screen size. As we know, hate is a word of great emotion and it seems ridiculous to hate the screen size of a phone.
And the iPhone 5 isn't the only 4incher out there (gawd that sounded wrong)
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Ehhh.. sorta selfish statement, no? T-mobile conducted a survey and 70% or so wanted bigger phones. "Acceptable" is different in your eyes than other peoples eyes.
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HTC conducted some equally worthless survey type thing and people said they preferred thinner phones to better battery life.
And the iPhone 5 isn't the only 4incher out there
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No, but it's the only one I'm aware of that isn't some mid-range, low-specced, WVGA, etc. thing.
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i used a galaxy tab 7 as my phone for months :laugh:
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You must have a big pocket for this
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HTC conducted some equally worthless survey type thing and people said they preferred thinner phones to better battery life.
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Consumers lie; or they don't know what they want.
I remember seeing Malcolm Gladwell talking about focus groups, and he used a coffee focus groups. Most people claimed they like strong dark coffee, but the truth is, most people actually prefer weak milky coffee. My point is, people aren't just binary, there's groups. Some like thinner phones, but value battery life more, some consider visibility to be more important than resolution. Some people want 4G, and don't give a damn about battery life.
At the end of the day, they need to make phones to cater to the multitude of customers. 4" is fine for many, its relatively petite; 4.5" is the sweet spot for me, 4.8-5.5 maybe for those who like the added features (extra res).
Even apple can't resist, which is why the rumours of a smaller ipad are constantly floating about. One size fits all is madness in the world of marketing.
I've got to agree in that mfrs seem to cripple phones with smaller screens in one way or another. Take last year's Galaxy Blaze on T-Mobile... 5 mp camera, but otherwise, same specs as TMO's GS2.
I think 4.5 is just about perfect. I can handle 4.8 as long as the overall phone size isn't much larger. If whatever the latest and greatest phone out the end of next year is 5"+, I'll be very disappointed and left buying sub-standard device because the Note is too big for my liking.
I have fairly large hands, but I prefer my screen to be a bit smaller because I want to be able to have more control over the phone. i feel that larger screen like the note for example are too big
large screens are fun, although i really like to be able to use my phone with only one hand..
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As consumers, the survey is a reflection of what we want. Thus, no survey is worthless.
Also, you missed a spot. They wanted thinner phones as opposed to battery life, but that doesn't really counter the "large screen" preference most people want.
You live in 2012 like its 2010.
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When I got my Captivate after having an iPhone for 2 years it was a welcome change. I thought the 4.3" phones would be too big for one handed use. Then I got a Galaxy S II with a 4.3" screen and it was fine. But I told myself the infuse with a 4.5" screen was too big. Now I'm using a One X with a 4.7" screen, just fine. Still one handed all the time comfortably. My hands are average size. The One X footprint isn't that much bigger than the Galaxy S II. Much smaller bezel. I think as they continue to decrease bezel screens can get a little bigger. 5" seems to be the biggest they could probably go without making the footprint much bigger. A 5" screen device with next to no bezel and on screen buttons would probably be about the same size as most of the 4.3-4.5" devices today. But I may feel different in a year.
I think phones are plenty thin today. The RAZR MAXX is a good example of packing a huge battery into a phone that still feels thin enough. Anything really under 9mm or so is thin enough, and there ate tricks to make phones feel thinner. Like what HTC did with the 8X.
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fleurdelisxliv said:
i used a galaxy tab 7 as my phone for months :laugh:
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walking around like you had a giant brick held up to your face.....first time i met you, you had that thing held up talking on it
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walking around like you had a giant brick held up to your face.....first time i met you, you had that thing held up talking on it
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haha sure did
Hi, I seen a lot of hate on OnePlus for inserting the notch and I want to bring another view on this.
Whenever Apple announced the notch on iPhone X, it seemed like the most stupid thing ever but after seeing it in store i came to realization that it does make sense. Yes you could to what Samsung have done, but notch also makes sense, you are taking unnecessary screen space on top of the phone and just shrinking it therefore giving you more space for notifications, I don't see a problem here. With upcoming version of Android and the notch support, there will be an option for hiding the status bar so it should still be okay for the users that don't like it.
So in reality you are getting more space on your screen, yeah it might seem ugly at first but it's just a matter of getting used to it, I really don't see any point in all the hate towards getting more screen on your phone...If a company can do this why shouldn't they? I'm not an expert but it might also be cheaper to produce a screen with a notch in comparison to what Samsung is doing. This year will most likely be affected by notches as we already see with other android phones.
manufactures have a lot of space on the bottom side for any kind of sensors and camera !!
There is absolutely zero, non reason to make this retarded ugly notch !!
I'm highly disappointed !!
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manufactures have a lot of space on the bottom side for any kind of sensors and camera !!
There is absolutely zero, non reason to make this retarded ugly notch !!
I'm highly disappointed !!
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Stop with this lunacy...
Cameras at the bottom are absolutely BS
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Stop with this lunacy...
Cameras at the bottom are absolutely BS
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they also have a lot of space on each corner !!
and than also can easily make equal 1-2mm bezels all around the screen.
You know that you can hide the notch, right?
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ugh
they also have a lot of space on each corner !!
and than also can easily make equal 1-2mm bezels all around the screen.
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OnePlus already addressed this. To keep Face Unlock fast and reliable it's best to keep the photo angle in the centre. Moreover, the OP cam is already not the best out there. They would really mess up trying to handle images taken from the side
so many excuses and you are not even marketing representative of oneplus, aren't you? !!
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so many excuses and you are not even marketing representative of oneplus, aren't you? !!
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Can we take this down a step.
Oneplus have made their decision about implementing a notch. They have also been upfront about it and given their reasons why (whether you choose to believe them or not).
As a customer you have a choice whether you are going to buy the phone or not. It's as simple as that...
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Hi, I seen a lot of hate on OnePlus for inserting the notch and I want to bring another view on this.
Whenever Apple announced the notch on iPhone X, it seemed like the most stupid thing ever but after seeing it in store i came to realization that it does make sense. Yes you could to what Samsung have done, but notch also makes sense, you are taking unnecessary screen space on top of the phone and just shrinking it therefore giving you more space for notifications, I don't see a problem here. With upcoming version of Android and the notch support, there will be an option for hiding the status bar so it should still be okay for the users that don't like it.
So in reality you are getting more space on your screen, yeah it might seem ugly at first but it's just a matter of getting used to it, I really don't see any point in all the hate towards getting more screen on your phone...If a company can do this why shouldn't they? I'm not an expert but it might also be cheaper to produce a screen with a notch in comparison to what Samsung is doing. This year will most likely be affected by notches as we already see with other android phones.
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The more i see it, the more i hate it...and i never get used to it.
So...what i'm gonna do about it? Very simple, never buy a phone with it...
Period.
rav101 said:
Can we take this down a step.
Oneplus have made their decision about implementing a notch. They have also been upfront about it and given their reasons why (whether you choose to believe them or not).
As a customer you have a choice whether you are going to buy the phone or not. It's as simple as that...
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that's my friend absolutely true, I hate all generations of oneplus phones and I did not buy it but it oneplus phones have huge software advantage like Google phones sketch became even worst than oneplus ones in terms of hardware design.
At this point I'm highly disappointed that oneplus is going to make one more phone with completely retarded design.
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Hi, I seen a lot of hate on OnePlus for inserting the notch and I want to bring another view on this.
Whenever Apple announced the notch on iPhone X, it seemed like the most stupid thing ever but after seeing it in store i came to realization that it does make sense. Yes you could to what Samsung have done, but notch also makes sense, you are taking unnecessary screen space on top of the phone and just shrinking it therefore giving you more space for notifications, I don't see a problem here. With upcoming version of Android and the notch support, there will be an option for hiding the status bar so it should still be okay for the users that don't like it.
So in reality you are getting more space on your screen, yeah it might seem ugly at first but it's just a matter of getting used to it, I really don't see any point in all the hate towards getting more screen on your phone...If a company can do this why shouldn't they? I'm not an expert but it might also be cheaper to produce a screen with a notch in comparison to what Samsung is doing. This year will most likely be affected by notches as we already see with other android phones.
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Its not about how the notch looks or feels when you hold the phone. Its about copying someone else. I had high hopes from Oneplus because they were the only one doing something different but this time they just copy pasted the stuff from Apple. I can literally tolerate thin bezels but not the notch for sure.
I'm pretty sure OnePlus has been copying for a while. I also don't see anything wrong with "copying" persay. After HTC went with duel front firing speakers on the HRX One (later named M7), should we have hated on everyone else after that, who released duel front phones with firing speakers??
I'm not making an argument for or against the notch... Just want to point out that in all industries, companies take ideas from other companies. It's just the way it works
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Hi, I seen a lot of hate on OnePlus for inserting the notch and I want to bring another view on this.
So in reality you are getting more space on your screen, yeah it might seem ugly at first but it's just a matter of getting used to it, I really don't see any point in all the hate towards getting more screen on your phone...If a company can do this why shouldn't they? I'm not an expert but it might also be cheaper to produce a screen with a notch in comparison to what Samsung is doing.
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Actually this is not true
You are not getting more space on your screen.
The size of a screen is measured diagonally. So It doesn't take the notch into account.
The manufacturers are selling us a 5.8 inch display (iPhone X for example) but the usable screen is smaller than the galaxy S8 which is 5.8 inch too, because a part of this screen is covered by the big notch.
The only advantage I find with the notch is that it kinda looks borderless, the display is going to every corner of the phone, which is cool. But the smaller the notch is, the better ! The size of the Essential PH1 should be the MAX allowed size
What pisses me off the most is the manufacturers that just add the notch to look cool, but that leave a HUGE border at the bottom of the phone.
OK I get it, it's technically complicated to remove the bottom of the display (or to curve it like Apple did), but if you can't do it : don't add a notch.
Although I don't find it very convenient, the Xiaomi method to deal with the bottom border without the notch is the best way. If you absolutely want to keep this big bottom border, then add the front facing camera on this border and don't add any notch.
Okay you'll tell me that the bottom borders are not that big, and I agree it's quite small. But it is big comparing to the other 3 borders of the phone. If you look at the P20 or P20 pro, the only thing I can see is that a HUGE part of the front of the phone is wasted by a HUGE border at the bottom. It's the only thing I can see when I look at this phone.
Anyway, I believe the notch shouldn't just be a temporary solution to get rid of the top bezel of the front of the phone. It should also be a temporary solution to get rid of the bottom bezel. Otherwise the manufacturers should just use the bottom bezel for the sensors instead of leaving it useless and ruining the design of their phone with a notch.
There were fake rumors and fake leaks about the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S showing a notch on the top-right corner of the phone. And I find this idea sooooooo cool ! It's the best notch implementation I can see. And even if it was just a fake (was it ?), I love the idea !
All that to say: OK One Plus, we might accept the notch, but not if there is a bottom border as big as the Vivo V9+ as I'm afraid there will be. If there is a bottom border, then the notch makes no sense. We would want to hide it and we would just have the same screen to body ratio as a One Plus 5T, so we would buy the One Plus 5T and the one plus 6 would be forgotten, just like most of the notch-phone will be.
And I agree with everyone : Copying Apple with the notch is a terrible bad idea. It makes you look weak, and makes you look just like a Chinese iPhone copy.
Damn it, the marketing guys should be thinking about it ! Every time someone sees a One Plus 6 using his phone, he would say "Ohh is that the new iPhone ?". Because the notch belongs to Apple. It's sad but it's true. They made sure that everyone knows that they invented the big notch.
So every random guy who loves the design of the One Plus 6 will just be thinking about the iPhone X and would probably eventually buy it. By copying Apple, you are doing advertising for them !
So that's good, make a powerful copy of the iPhone X. But in the end, only a few experienced users will know that you own a One Plus 6 and will envy you for it. But the 95% remaining will just be thinking that Apple is doing a good job.
I am so disappointed about the notch. I though that One Plus had his own identity, and that they would be able to create an original phone with no notch but with minimal bezels. You proved that I was wrong by getting inspiration from the iPhone when designing the back of the One Plus 5. And now you proved the opposite again by copying the notch...
Oops, sorry for the long post
If you take the presumed size of the OP6 screen to be around 6.2 inches, compared to the OP5T screen size of 6 inches then the extra 0.2 inches roughly equates to the size of the notch and effectively the status bar. This gives you that "extra" space compared to the previous phone they did.
The reality is, if you don't want a notch, then your choices are limited, especially if you're looking at the price point this phone is likely to come out at and the rest of the specifications it has.
It's simple, don't be pissed... Just don't buy it, or figure out if you can trade this notch against liking other parts of the phone. No one phone is the perfect phone for everyone
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In the Android "P" Itself there is a "Notch" mode when the core OS has a feature for it the vendors willl try to use it + Notch some people think its beauty and something new in display
2018 is a terrible year for smartphones.
That's it. I'm gonna skip every single one.
Can't wait for 2019
I'm never gonna use a notch in my life. Never.
timartinhof said:
2018 is a terrible year for smartphones.
That's it. I'm gonna skip every single one.
Can't wait for 2019
I'm never gonna use a notch in my life. Never.
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You presume that next year's phones won't also have notches?
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I pray for it every night
timartinhof said:
I pray for it every night
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Hahahaha so do I
I really hope that manufacturers will find a way to remove this stupid notch very soon !
Maybe if more people would not buy this notched phone oneplus would be forced to bring down the price significantly. Then I can buy it!
So please, hate the notch and don't buy this phone! I heard s9 is a good alternative. ?
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For months leading up to the release of the Pixel 3 series, I read all the comments online about how much people hated the over-sized notch and how much of a deal-breaker it would be. Many even said they'll choose the regular Pixel 3 instead of the XL. These sentiments continue online to this day... And yet, it appears the XL is outselling the regular Pixel 3 by significant margins. Even the volume of activity on the xda forums is night and day in favor of the XL variant.
So, can you all please share what made the unforgivable notch so forgivable?
I've had the phone about a week now... You do kind of get used to the notch.. It's not as annoying as some make it out to be, IMO. You can always find a wallpaper that hides it on the home screen at least haha.
i was strongly against the notch since before it even came out, i even considered the regular P3....
after having the P3 XL for a week, i am now at peace with it and dont hate it as bad as i thought i would.
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I've had the phone about a week now... You do kind of get used to the notch.. It's not as annoying as some make it out to be, IMO. You can always find a wallpaper that hides it on the home screen at least haha.
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But why did you select it over the Pixel 3 if you were so worried about the notch?
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But why did you select it over the Pixel 3 if you were so worried about the notch?
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When I found out you can hide the notch, it was an easy decision. I like the bigger screen, bigger battery and more software development.
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I was always an Android guy but earlier this year I decided to get the iPhone x coming from a galaxy s8, well I wanted to see if iPhones wore any better since I haven't had one since the 5. Missed my return period and was stuck with it (TMobile financing). The iPhone does have a significant notch as well and got used to it really quickly. Then the pixel 3 and 3 xl got announced and yes everyone hated the notch, except it didn't bother me a single bit. I didn't have the money to cough up for it so I went with the one plus 6T and had that for a couple weeks untill Black Friday when 3xl was discounted send jumped on it real quick. For me it was the form factor, I hated how small the iPhone was, you couldn't enjoy videos or see much really the bigger screen makes a big difference. The notch is something I never even notice now, it's just there. It be great if Google utilized the space a little bit better, hopefully they will do that.
I had the original Pixel XL.
loved the big screen
Updated to 3XL and within a day ... what notch?
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But why did you select it over the Pixel 3 if you were so worried about the notch?
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I wanted the bigger screen. I wasn't really worried about the notch.. I had seen the iPhone X and the Essential Phone both having notches and didn't find them annoying really.
Honestly, I dont know why people hate the notch so much. I like it. It forces the notifications and the other icons to the top (on either side of the notch) freeing up screen real estate for apps. I never hated the notch and now that I have it, I dont even notice it.
I truly believe people overreacted with the notch. Who cares about it...seriously. it's fine. not even noticeable when you use the phone daily.
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Honestly, I dont know why people hate the notch so much. I like it. It forces the notifications and the other icons to the top (on either side of the notch) freeing up screen real estate for apps. I never hated the notch and now that I have it, I dont even notice it.
I truly believe people overreacted with the notch. Who cares about it...seriously. it's fine. not even noticeable when you use the phone daily.
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People hate the notch because it's new, different, and they don't have one. Once these style phones have been out for a while, everybody will get used to it, and then the people who say they hate it now will be telling everyone how much they love it.
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For months leading up to the release of the Pixel 3 series, I read all the comments online about how much people hated the over-sized notch and how much of a deal-breaker it would be. Many even said they'll choose the regular Pixel 3 instead of the XL. These sentiments continue online to this day... And yet, it appears the XL is outselling the regular Pixel 3 by significant margins. Even the volume of activity on the xda forums is night and day in favor of the XL variant.
So, can you all please share what made the unforgivable notch so forgivable?
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Notch never concerned me.
I have large hands so a bigger phone is just easier to use.
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People hate the notch because it's new, different, and they don't have one. Once these style phones have been out for a while, everybody will get used to it, and then the people who say they hate it now will be telling everyone how much they love it.
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totally agree lol
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I have large hands so a bigger phone is just easier to use.
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Also agree. I have larger hands and I came from the OG - Pixel XL and then switched to a company phone (Galaxy S9, which didnt have a small screen either), i just like the larger screens.
Interesting, it seems that most of you wanted the bigger phone simply because it's bigger.
That make sense, but I'm curious if that takes away google's incentive to improve the design if people still purchase one of the the ugliest phones of the year in droves?
I wouldn't call it one of the ugliest phones of 2018. I upgraded from my old Nexus 6 to the Pixel 3 XL and absolutely love it. Enabling dark mode makes it so I don't even notice the notch. There were a couple of initial hiccups, there always are with a new device. Google addressed the battery issues and distortion/vibration issues when listening to music at lower volume. I love the dual front facing speakers which is why I held out for so long before upgrading from my Nexus 6. Battery life is outstanding for my purposes. I don't have much time at work to fool around with my phone, so normally when I'm headed home after a 9 hr day I'm still sitting at around 80% battery.
Comparing the feel and weight of the Pixel 3 XL to my wife's iPhone 8+, the Pixel feels so much better to hold and is definitely lighter in weight.
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Interesting, it seems that most of you wanted the bigger phone simply because it's bigger.
That make sense, but I'm curious if that takes away google's incentive to improve the design if people still purchase one of the the ugliest phones of the year in droves?
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being as unbiased as I can, calling it "ugly" is a little harsh. That's really all personal preference. Some might like it. Some may not. If you think it's ugly, I can respect that as it's your opinion. Personally, i like it and the notch doesnt bother me at all (never did, even before I bought the device).
On a personal level, I dont understand how anyone can call ANY phone ugly. Majority of phones are rectangle. When powered off, they all look the same (for the most part). The backside is where the variations occur. I dont use a case on any phone because the manufacturer spent a lot of time and money designing the feel of the device for a reason. Putting a case on it, ruins the entire reason they made it that way. Other than customizing your cases (which i can understand), many people will say they put a case on it to protect it from breaking. My answer to that is - hold your damn phone. Dont drop it. Dont put it on your lap while sitting down. You're going to forget its there and drop it when you stand up. Besides, you paid a lot of money for a device that you end up covering it with a crappy plastic cover (but I digress) ....
the backside is where most of the variations occur on different phones. If you put a case on it, you cant see the back anyway. So that brings me back to the front, which is why I originally said "i dont understand how anyone can call any phone ugly". The front is almost the same on every (popular) phone.
Well I certainly don't intend to start a discussion about the phone's attractiveness, but we have to be honest and recognize that the large notch, relatively large chin, and inconsistent radius corners, are what made the P3XL stand out from the competition (and not in a good way). The design is so offensive that it caused many to declare they would never buy it or would only but the smaller version.
Clearly, we are quick to condemn and even quicker to forgive ?
I need a bigger screen because my eyes are getting bad, and I like the bigger screen size. Also I can type on a bigger screen easier. I always hit the wrong keys on a smaller screen. If they made a bigger screen, I would get it.