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*The* TyTN v1605 problems post...

Hi all,
Figured I should start a post with problems (in the quest for solutions).
I have had my v1605 from Vodafon for 3 days now and have found a few problems already. I have a replacement coming on Tue so will see what is fixed...
So far:
- keyboard back lights not working, matters not if the sensor is active or not. Vodafone replacing the unit as a result.
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
- screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.
- today screen items are locked and 'vodafoned', very annoying as I cannot show task list, owner info or lock status on the today screen. I hard reset the unit and reset it before the customisation happened and voila - the usual today screen items were back - but as a result I lost the vodafone dialer skin and the 3G symbol. I presume someone can ROM-hack to get rid of this restriction and look forward to it In fact, it would be perfect if the ONLY Vodafone customisations were the dialler skin, 3G symbol and theme.
- If you have a password set and hard-reset the unit it crashes when you are prompted for the password. Soft resetting it then skips the vodafone customisation.
- left softkey set to phone instead of calendar and no way to change it.
- no easy way to access Vodafone Live!
- camera quality pretty poor for a 2MP, no where near as good as the K750i for example. However, the K750i on its first firmware was pretty aweful too!
- when plugged into USB on computer - if you turn it off (so as just to charge) it will turn itself back on again shortly and commence another sync.
Other than these niggles, of which the today screen is the biggest for me, I love the TyTN. By far the best PDA/Phone I have owned to date!
So - over to you guys, does your v1605 have these issues or others, or none????
Rich

My slide out keyboard down't click into place on the left side the way the right does (and also the way the wizard does). It may not be a problem now but in the future, it may begin to wear and then it might affect the function of the keys??
Are they just swapping a unit for you or exchanging the whole package? How will you know if you get a brand new set? When I switched mine on, the call timers showed outgoing 40 seconds and incoming 45 seconds. I'm not sure if this is vodafone testing the units or it's not new.

Am told I am getting a brand new unit - will check call timers as they *should* be 0-0.
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R

I do not see the "E" icon even in EDGE enabled areas. I even tried the HTC Wizard icon hack hack with no success:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/191

'E' appears on my v1605
3G is awesome.

rakh1 said:
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R
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Thats great! was a bit worried that mine was a faulty unit. It does feel solid when sliding. It was just the lack of the "click" that bugged me.
Anyone else who received their unit had timers showing calls made and received from it? Its probably vodafone testing it. The unit is too new for any refunds/refurbs to have been made.

- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
My unit has this issue and I hope my next unit which is a brand new replacement that comes on Tuesday doesn't have this issue. My unit it is only the O that has problem which is getting better over time. I called them and they was more than happy to get a brand new unit to get sent out just want a perfect working one in my 14 day period so fingers crossed will keep you updated.

xxnoelziexx said:
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
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Do you also feel a click only on the right when you slide open the keyboard? Let us know how you get on with the new unit.

Don't feel no click at all. Will keep you all updated.

UPDATE:
New unit turned up - keyboard lights now work as expected.
Still only a right side click on the keybard - so it must just be the way it is.
Today items:
Fix posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=329204#329204
Hope that helps - Rich

Hi guys
Peter .. the guy that got his VPA Compact III two days after me as sent it back on the 14 day returns .... He was concerned about stability. He's always struggled to come to terms with WM stability which I can understand ... so he's off back to palm and blackberry.
From my point of view - I've had one hang during operations which still worries me (I left it at the today screen fine ... and 30 mins later I noticed backlight was completely off and it was utterly un responsive - wouldn't respond to incoming calls). It also hangs occassionally of soft reset or power on (from a complete power off). It usually comes up fine on a subsequent soft reset.
I'm waiting for HTC to call me back so I can raise this as a call. It seems to happen regardless of today plugins being active (I disabled all) - I have also rebuilt with 4 phases of Sprite Backup to restore from - and the problem hasn't gone away.
I suspect it is firmware / software as opposed to hardware .... fingers crossed.
Aside from that I love it as a device .... I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body (right hand side). I thought it may be a crack but I'm pretty sure it's just where the plastic moulding was finished before painting. If it's not cracked I'm not bothered.
You can change the WM5 softkeys with Tweaks2k2.
One thing to remember is that rather than use the phone executable, the device originally used a :MSC call. Once removed you can't put it back with Tweaks2k2. It's not an issue because a normal link to phone is fine. If you want Calendar ... then use Tweaks2k2 to change it.
My keyboard works fine ... no sticky keys. Peter had one or two on his.
Paul.

I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
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No hangs here yet.....using it a lot with skype, camera, etc...
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
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Yes - same here...
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
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I've not had this happen...
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body
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Same here - but very feint....
Rich

Hi Rich
What are you running at the moment ?
I'm try to find out what is different between my build and yours so I can narrow down possible cause of hang.
Paul.

By the way ... my build is :
So far I have SBSH iLauncher, HandyMenu, HandSwitcher, Legato Mahjong, Billiard Master 3, Bubbleshooter, PDA Mill GameBox Classics, BeJewelled 2, 1-Calc, Phatnotes, PIEPlus, Avantgo, CO2005, Clearvue Office Pro, CPL6, FW2006, imov Messenger, NewsBreak, Resco Explorer (without the Resco Today Plugin) 5.40, Resco PhotoViewer, SBSH Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, Skype 2, Sprite 5.1, Tweaks2k2, PI2005, FlexMail 2.2, FlexWallet, Cabinstall, Cruxview - all installed on the MicroSD.
Aside from an apparent hang on startup last night which scared me .... I thought I'd need to hard reset but it eventually sorted itself out ... hopefully it is s/w related .... it's all going well. Did a video call with Peter last night which was fine ... first I've done and picture quality not great but usable.
3G is active and working very well. Switches mid call to 2.5g if signal drops to much, but you don't get a chattering issue (i.e. where it regularly switches between the two).
Drove from Hook to Kent with CPL6 and BT GPS yesterday and that was flawless.
Have four phases of Sprite Backup - Different levels of build - so I can decide how far back to go in the event of problems.
Circa 28 mg of program memory following sof reset
Circa 31 mg of storage memory
PB is loading PI Calendar / Tasks / Messaging / Phatnotes / Pocket Weather.

Can someone help me with my wifi problem please. I can get connected to my network ok but IE will not show any pages, it just says wrong settings. I am connected with good signal strengh and thought that i would be able to surf when on my own home network. Most of the time it serches gprs and 3g then shows the error. An idiots step through guide would be helpful. I have searched for hours but came up blank. I also need a walkthrough on how to configue vodafone MMS settings as I cant get that to work either. Customer services isnt much good as the dont really know this device yet. Thanks in advance.

Hey Paul,
I have only the followinig intalled over the base v1605:
skype2
PHM Registry Editor
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Handmark Monopoly
That's it......
Rich

new unit arrived and the sticking key issue is gone thank god. I hve a few things installed now and the phone is running great. I installed agile messenger beta a few minutes ago as no msn client is in the vodaphone rom and the phone looked like it crashed then a few moments later it signed into msn.
1 thing I have noticed is if I mute the volume so I get a x sign near the volune if I click around I.e start menu and click around the operating system I can hear a clicking noise. could someone else test this 4 me I am currently in a quiet room.
also noticed when using pie with keyboard slid out my view will sometimes change from landscape to portrait view and then back to normal which is strange. I am sure my faulty device did this whilst just using the operating system in general use. shed a bit of light to what I have just found is that I just put the phone down open on the case it comes with and the same thing happened it must have something to do with the magnetic metal in the case effecting the phone causing it to rotate lol well that's what I think.

No clicking sound when I mute mine. Haven't really played around with mine yet. Will install everything once I get my microsd card.
Does your phone's keyboard click into place when you slide it open and is it right side only or both? Also did you check your call timers? Are they zero or has calls been made before receiving it?

Just got my TyTN
and all i got was a lousy keyboard..
got the bad keys on my unit. Waiting for response from HTC distributor, but they halted all sales of it until resolved. There are a lot of phones with bad keyboard.
But apart from that it seems to work fine - like the Jasjar in a smaller package.
But I liked the keyboard on my I-mate k-jam a lot better.

My first one had a few keys that weren't great, t, del and spacebar. This one is good for the keyboard. But....my screen is loosing calibration all the time again which is why I was given a replacement. Moves so that it is totaly unusable! Is anyone else experiencing it? If you are not is it a Voadafone one or something else. I've told Vodafone that I'd like another one out of a different batch and they said that they will extend my exchange period for a couple of weeks until some new ones come in. Might call HTC to see if it is a known "feature". Other than that I'm still totally happy with the device and it is much better at memory handling thn the Exec ever was, It never seems to drop below 22mb of program memory after having opened and closed programs for a clouple of days. The exec would have dropped to 17 by the end of the first.
Phil

[Q] Moto G - Screen does not wake in Flip Case.

Hi Everyone
I am using indian version of Moto G (Dual Sim) :angel: with Kitkat Vers. 4.4.2. :victory:
Also, purchased a Nillkin Fresh Leather Flip Diary Cover Case For Motorola Moto G. (see image)
Now, benefit of this case is that it has a cut out on the top side of the flip (see image), so that whenever there is an incoming call,caller id should be visible in that cut out. This was the primary reason to buy such an overpriced case.
It also locks the screen when you close the flip and wakes up the screen when you open the flip. Smart thing to have !:good:
But, unfortunately the screen remains off whenever there is an incoming call, it remians off until you open the flip. Ideally screen should wake up for incoming call even if the proximity sensor is blocked until you answer the call. Its definitely the proximity sensor at work but its not serving the purpose of the cut out.
If any one noticed the same issue and has a solution to the problem, please feel free to answer or PM me ! Would be highly Obliged !

same issue with me plz tell the solution
hi
same with me please anyone tell the solution

Grab a magnet and try the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_KL60gf_hU
If this works for you the issue is related with the cover.

I bought the same cover and I faced same problem ,,, any solution please .

If you are rooted, you can try this xposed mod.
http://tinyurl.com/qbpjv22/MotoMagnetOff_test3.apk
I've just added an setting checkbox to wake the phone if it's ringing.

Moto G - Screen does not wake in Flip Case.
hi anish.awalkar ..have you got the solution?

Touchscreen issue (bad grounding)

When I put the device on to any insulating surface such as pillow/bed/couch/table I cannot normally operate it. Touch is being interrupted very frequently. This means in practice that I unintentionally press links while sliding through web pages, it is impossible to organize icons (since icon is dropped quickly), pinch-zoom is difficult, unlocking the device is hard, when text-typing it often doubles the letters etc.
Problems goes away as soon as I plug the charger, or take the device in my hand. This looks to me like a grounding issue, which was annoyingly present in some of OnePlus One and Nexus 7 devices in the past. Desperate users were hoping for a software update to solve the issue but it never came out.
Is anyone else experiencing similar problems with Mi 4c? I also tried flashing different MIUI versions, nothing helped.
Here is a video demonstrating the issue (you can enter hardware test menu by calling *#*#64663#*#* and try it by yourself):

I tested, mine is ok

I never really use my phone that way but out of curiosity, I tested it. Can confirm, issue is there. Touch screen goes crazy when scrolling facebook posts, chrome browser, possibly anywhere until I lift the phone up.
Just noticed that I needed to tap and scroll up/down harder than I used to otherwise I would miss it and the scroll would stop halfway through and will tap on whatever it is on the screen when it stopped.
Basically when I don't tap hard enough when doing the scrolling gesture, that's the time that the touchscreen goes crazy

works proper at my mi4c

I had the exact same problem. It is a defective screen. The problem started appear for me after 3 days of use, so I returned it to the store for an immediate exchange. I am not sure if you are in China or not, but if you are, you can just walk into the store and get a new one on the spot.

for me works perfect

Works ok on mine

Works fine here...

I can't even get the touch test started, running cm12.1, dailing *#*#*2664#*#*does nothing, as well as no other I've tried tested

Stenudd said:
I can't even get the touch test started, running cm12.1, dailing *#*#*2664#*#*does nothing, as well as no other I've tried tested
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Try it with some app. For a single-touch this one is just fine: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tsaysoft.touchtest
It draws a continous line and if you lift a finger (or if you have faulty screen) the line disappears.
To test a multitouch function you can play with: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester

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Try it with some app. For a single-touch this one is just fine: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tsaysoft.touchtest
It draws a continous line and if you lift a finger (or if you have faulty screen) the line disappears.
To test a multitouch function you can play with: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester
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Mine is working as expected as well

found solution(the grounding problem is still a thing but this makes it less of an ass)
1) root the phone or just use the developer rom from xiaomi
2)then install Pimp my Rom from google play and grand root
3)go to tweaks-> touch-screen & display-> multi touch amount
and put it on 5.

Hello,
Yes. As a proud owner of one (unfortunately defunct cause I dropped) nexus 7 2013 I can confirm that the behavior is the same... Definitely a grounding problem.
When you leave the phone on a pillow or couch without holding it,bthe screen response is erratic. When you hold it or attach charger.. No problem.
Still beautiful device (the 4c), especially for the price. Snappy.
And smiu is very good made. (not a fan of miui roms...)

This happens only on 16gb version? What about using a plastic case? Does it solve the issue?

Ydraulikos said:
This happens only on 16gb version? What about using a plastic case? Does it solve the issue?
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I have the 32/3. Same behavior. Not tried wit a case..

i have also found another touchscreen problem, multitouch on sides doesn't work, here the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPC7Z2ploxc

Cover mode activate itself

Hi everyone !
I face a strange problem,
Last day, my nose started bleeding and a drop of blood has fallen on the lowest speaker. I washed it under clear water to get it off. (Since it's waterproof it shall not create any problems...)
Since this event, the sony style cover mode keep thinking that i'm opening and closing the smart cover.
Firstly, the screen was going on and off by itself, I wans't understanding what's happening since in recovery mode all is working fine.
Later, a pop up showed on my screen asking me to give permissions to smart cover app. I denied since I don't use it.
Luckily I have a smart cover that I don't use (it's not handy when fully opened so I stopped using it, it cannot be because of this since I flashed a lot of differents firmware since this day)
I paired the cover with the phone when the screen was on for enough time. It does had worked and instead of shutting down the screen, displayed the smart cover screen lock (A small square in the center of the screen, fitting with the window)
To avoid this, I deleted the smart cover app folder and datas using recovery, rebooted, miracle ! No more little square screen !
But... Even if the screen is as it should be, touchsceen is not working on the non window areas (it does work only in the square of the window. So I can't use touchscreen outside of this area.
I tried to delete all things I found related to "touchblock" in system and data but it does not worked...
I can do every actions on my phone using Adb with wifi or not, control on the screen using a mouse with otg or using wifi with teamviewer, or using recovery to do everything system side !
If someone is able to help me finding a solution let me know i'll be very grateful !
Thanks for reading (And sorry if i made mistakes in my explainations, English is not my first language )

Up ?

Do you have touch problems?

Recently I bought the motorola one vision that by the way I left it today in the warranty and on Saturday they will give me a new one, I changed it because I was having problems with the tactile sensitivity.
I come from a xiaomi mi a2 and I am used to writing very fast, in the motorola one vision when writing fast or normal sometimes certain letters when touching them did nothing like they do not recognize the touch.
This happens to me with a tempered glass screen protector or without it and when charging this is worse, and also if for example I put the phone on a surface the sensitivity drops to the maximum.
If you google it you will see a lot of reports of this issue in lenovo forums
do you have this touch issue too?

Yes, I have problems with the touchscreen sensitivity, because of this I removed the protective screen of the display which did not stick well because of the curvature of the screen. Now I use the phone without a foil screen protector and the touch is better . I read in this forum there are more people complained this matter . Also I can tell this is not Gorilla glas this is some glass equivalent to Gorilla glass 3 .

90% have this problem , is hardware issue . A10 solved it a little but still have it

I have this problem and it drives me crazy. I am still stuck on A9 so hoping A10 does indeed improve it a little. The worst is when the phone is sitting flat on my desk - it is almost impossible to use.

No touch issues here. XT1970-3 with tempered glass. Don't know about in games as I don't play.

I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages ​​and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.

yippee ki yay said:
I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages ​​and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.
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This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .

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This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .
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I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.

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I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.
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I'm sure you're right about this but I'm sure you have a screen protector . I don't . So in my case your solution isn't quite well .

Help us to find a solution
Hello, I have the same problem but I found something that help...
My problem increase when is on a surface, but if you plug only the cable type C the problem is fix...
If you do it, just plug the cable to the phone and the other part leave it alone
I think the port or something internal there isn't connected to ground... Maybe someone with better knowledge in electronics can help.
Test it and tell me if works you

Bought one for my wife and updated to Android 10. I can confirm the issue still exists touch sensitivity is not very accurate . It's ok could be better but not a deal breaker. Motorola should do something z then again all hardware is made by samsung..... This model it's not produced anymore , I wonder why....