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*The* TyTN v1605 problems post...

Hi all,
Figured I should start a post with problems (in the quest for solutions).
I have had my v1605 from Vodafon for 3 days now and have found a few problems already. I have a replacement coming on Tue so will see what is fixed...
So far:
- keyboard back lights not working, matters not if the sensor is active or not. Vodafone replacing the unit as a result.
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
- screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.
- today screen items are locked and 'vodafoned', very annoying as I cannot show task list, owner info or lock status on the today screen. I hard reset the unit and reset it before the customisation happened and voila - the usual today screen items were back - but as a result I lost the vodafone dialer skin and the 3G symbol. I presume someone can ROM-hack to get rid of this restriction and look forward to it In fact, it would be perfect if the ONLY Vodafone customisations were the dialler skin, 3G symbol and theme.
- If you have a password set and hard-reset the unit it crashes when you are prompted for the password. Soft resetting it then skips the vodafone customisation.
- left softkey set to phone instead of calendar and no way to change it.
- no easy way to access Vodafone Live!
- camera quality pretty poor for a 2MP, no where near as good as the K750i for example. However, the K750i on its first firmware was pretty aweful too!
- when plugged into USB on computer - if you turn it off (so as just to charge) it will turn itself back on again shortly and commence another sync.
Other than these niggles, of which the today screen is the biggest for me, I love the TyTN. By far the best PDA/Phone I have owned to date!
So - over to you guys, does your v1605 have these issues or others, or none????
Rich

My slide out keyboard down't click into place on the left side the way the right does (and also the way the wizard does). It may not be a problem now but in the future, it may begin to wear and then it might affect the function of the keys??
Are they just swapping a unit for you or exchanging the whole package? How will you know if you get a brand new set? When I switched mine on, the call timers showed outgoing 40 seconds and incoming 45 seconds. I'm not sure if this is vodafone testing the units or it's not new.

Am told I am getting a brand new unit - will check call timers as they *should* be 0-0.
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R

I do not see the "E" icon even in EDGE enabled areas. I even tried the HTC Wizard icon hack hack with no success:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/191

'E' appears on my v1605
3G is awesome.

rakh1 said:
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R
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Thats great! was a bit worried that mine was a faulty unit. It does feel solid when sliding. It was just the lack of the "click" that bugged me.
Anyone else who received their unit had timers showing calls made and received from it? Its probably vodafone testing it. The unit is too new for any refunds/refurbs to have been made.

- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
My unit has this issue and I hope my next unit which is a brand new replacement that comes on Tuesday doesn't have this issue. My unit it is only the O that has problem which is getting better over time. I called them and they was more than happy to get a brand new unit to get sent out just want a perfect working one in my 14 day period so fingers crossed will keep you updated.

xxnoelziexx said:
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
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Do you also feel a click only on the right when you slide open the keyboard? Let us know how you get on with the new unit.

Don't feel no click at all. Will keep you all updated.

UPDATE:
New unit turned up - keyboard lights now work as expected.
Still only a right side click on the keybard - so it must just be the way it is.
Today items:
Fix posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=329204#329204
Hope that helps - Rich

Hi guys
Peter .. the guy that got his VPA Compact III two days after me as sent it back on the 14 day returns .... He was concerned about stability. He's always struggled to come to terms with WM stability which I can understand ... so he's off back to palm and blackberry.
From my point of view - I've had one hang during operations which still worries me (I left it at the today screen fine ... and 30 mins later I noticed backlight was completely off and it was utterly un responsive - wouldn't respond to incoming calls). It also hangs occassionally of soft reset or power on (from a complete power off). It usually comes up fine on a subsequent soft reset.
I'm waiting for HTC to call me back so I can raise this as a call. It seems to happen regardless of today plugins being active (I disabled all) - I have also rebuilt with 4 phases of Sprite Backup to restore from - and the problem hasn't gone away.
I suspect it is firmware / software as opposed to hardware .... fingers crossed.
Aside from that I love it as a device .... I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body (right hand side). I thought it may be a crack but I'm pretty sure it's just where the plastic moulding was finished before painting. If it's not cracked I'm not bothered.
You can change the WM5 softkeys with Tweaks2k2.
One thing to remember is that rather than use the phone executable, the device originally used a :MSC call. Once removed you can't put it back with Tweaks2k2. It's not an issue because a normal link to phone is fine. If you want Calendar ... then use Tweaks2k2 to change it.
My keyboard works fine ... no sticky keys. Peter had one or two on his.
Paul.

I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
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No hangs here yet.....using it a lot with skype, camera, etc...
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
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Yes - same here...
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
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I've not had this happen...
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body
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Same here - but very feint....
Rich

Hi Rich
What are you running at the moment ?
I'm try to find out what is different between my build and yours so I can narrow down possible cause of hang.
Paul.

By the way ... my build is :
So far I have SBSH iLauncher, HandyMenu, HandSwitcher, Legato Mahjong, Billiard Master 3, Bubbleshooter, PDA Mill GameBox Classics, BeJewelled 2, 1-Calc, Phatnotes, PIEPlus, Avantgo, CO2005, Clearvue Office Pro, CPL6, FW2006, imov Messenger, NewsBreak, Resco Explorer (without the Resco Today Plugin) 5.40, Resco PhotoViewer, SBSH Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, Skype 2, Sprite 5.1, Tweaks2k2, PI2005, FlexMail 2.2, FlexWallet, Cabinstall, Cruxview - all installed on the MicroSD.
Aside from an apparent hang on startup last night which scared me .... I thought I'd need to hard reset but it eventually sorted itself out ... hopefully it is s/w related .... it's all going well. Did a video call with Peter last night which was fine ... first I've done and picture quality not great but usable.
3G is active and working very well. Switches mid call to 2.5g if signal drops to much, but you don't get a chattering issue (i.e. where it regularly switches between the two).
Drove from Hook to Kent with CPL6 and BT GPS yesterday and that was flawless.
Have four phases of Sprite Backup - Different levels of build - so I can decide how far back to go in the event of problems.
Circa 28 mg of program memory following sof reset
Circa 31 mg of storage memory
PB is loading PI Calendar / Tasks / Messaging / Phatnotes / Pocket Weather.

Can someone help me with my wifi problem please. I can get connected to my network ok but IE will not show any pages, it just says wrong settings. I am connected with good signal strengh and thought that i would be able to surf when on my own home network. Most of the time it serches gprs and 3g then shows the error. An idiots step through guide would be helpful. I have searched for hours but came up blank. I also need a walkthrough on how to configue vodafone MMS settings as I cant get that to work either. Customer services isnt much good as the dont really know this device yet. Thanks in advance.

Hey Paul,
I have only the followinig intalled over the base v1605:
skype2
PHM Registry Editor
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Handmark Monopoly
That's it......
Rich

new unit arrived and the sticking key issue is gone thank god. I hve a few things installed now and the phone is running great. I installed agile messenger beta a few minutes ago as no msn client is in the vodaphone rom and the phone looked like it crashed then a few moments later it signed into msn.
1 thing I have noticed is if I mute the volume so I get a x sign near the volune if I click around I.e start menu and click around the operating system I can hear a clicking noise. could someone else test this 4 me I am currently in a quiet room.
also noticed when using pie with keyboard slid out my view will sometimes change from landscape to portrait view and then back to normal which is strange. I am sure my faulty device did this whilst just using the operating system in general use. shed a bit of light to what I have just found is that I just put the phone down open on the case it comes with and the same thing happened it must have something to do with the magnetic metal in the case effecting the phone causing it to rotate lol well that's what I think.

No clicking sound when I mute mine. Haven't really played around with mine yet. Will install everything once I get my microsd card.
Does your phone's keyboard click into place when you slide it open and is it right side only or both? Also did you check your call timers? Are they zero or has calls been made before receiving it?

Just got my TyTN
and all i got was a lousy keyboard..
got the bad keys on my unit. Waiting for response from HTC distributor, but they halted all sales of it until resolved. There are a lot of phones with bad keyboard.
But apart from that it seems to work fine - like the Jasjar in a smaller package.
But I liked the keyboard on my I-mate k-jam a lot better.

My first one had a few keys that weren't great, t, del and spacebar. This one is good for the keyboard. But....my screen is loosing calibration all the time again which is why I was given a replacement. Moves so that it is totaly unusable! Is anyone else experiencing it? If you are not is it a Voadafone one or something else. I've told Vodafone that I'd like another one out of a different batch and they said that they will extend my exchange period for a couple of weeks until some new ones come in. Might call HTC to see if it is a known "feature". Other than that I'm still totally happy with the device and it is much better at memory handling thn the Exec ever was, It never seems to drop below 22mb of program memory after having opened and closed programs for a clouple of days. The exec would have dropped to 17 by the end of the first.
Phil

[Xperia Miro] Problems with the Proximity Sensor

Hello there.
I have recently had to replace my screen on my miro due to a crack, This went successfully in the fact the phone now works as before, with one minor problem. Since trying to make and receive calls my phone automatically goes to a black screen. this after many searches on the net resulted me to conclude that the sensor is blocked, as the screen digitizer was slightly different for the top left of screen too. the place where the sensors live. In can go round the problem with a set of earphones but sometime a call will cut off more using them. I downloaded the hardware disabler developed on this site but it doesn't load any drivers and then crashed, there also appears to be no other hardware disablers out there, or at least none I can find.
Basically I need some help on restoring the call function, either by fixing the proximity sensor or by getting rid of it
Any help will be welcome on this matter.
thanks

Notifcations are upsidedown when on a table with the edge screen facing me.

Hi all,
Forgive me if this has been covered as it seems like it would be a pretty common complaint (even through i've searched the forums for 40 mins now with no luck of finding anything on it).
Basically is there a way for me to view my notifications in the same orientation that the alarm clock shows. As it is right now, I have my phone on my desk with the screen facing me, and every time somebody texts me or I receive a general notification I have to literally try to decode it in the 1 second that it shows up (upside down).
Any suggestions? I don't want to have to flip my phone upsidedown (with left handed mode enabled) every time I want to read a notification the right way up - this seems like a huge functional flaw in samsungs edge screen.
Thanks, Steve

Bitplex said:
Hi all,
Forgive me if this has been covered as it seems like it would be a pretty common complaint (even through i've searched the forums for 40 mins now with no luck of finding anything on it).
Basically is there a way for me to view my notifications in the same orientation that the alarm clock shows. As it is right now, I have my phone on my desk with the screen facing me, and every time somebody texts me or I receive a general notification I have to literally try to decode it in the 1 second that it shows up (upside down).
Any suggestions? I don't want to have to flip my phone upsidedown (with left handed mode enabled) every time I want to read a notification the right way up - this seems like a huge functional flaw in samsungs edge screen.
Thanks, Steve
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I wish! Makes no sense the way it is, especially when the night clock is the right way up but nothing else is.
Only thing I have found to work (temporarily) is to open an app that can be rotated, then turn your phone so the edge is at the bottom, and then shut the flip cover. Now anything on the edge is the right way up. But as soon as you open an app the right way up again (or go home) then it goes upside-down again.

I think it's an accelerometer or gyroscope sensitivity issue. Mine works the way it should most of the time. On the times that it doesn't, I just move it a little bit to either the left or the right and the display orientation is corrected...

Yes but if you then place it on the table and let the edge turn off, then get a message the notification will be upside down again

Like I said, mine works as it should on most occasions. Lying flat on a table, I just rub the edge and the notifications are facing me.
When they don't, a simple nudge to the left or right re-orients the edge and the notifications face me again...
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Yes but if you then place it on the table and let the edge turn off, then get a message the notification will be upside down again
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Do you have touch problems?

Recently I bought the motorola one vision that by the way I left it today in the warranty and on Saturday they will give me a new one, I changed it because I was having problems with the tactile sensitivity.
I come from a xiaomi mi a2 and I am used to writing very fast, in the motorola one vision when writing fast or normal sometimes certain letters when touching them did nothing like they do not recognize the touch.
This happens to me with a tempered glass screen protector or without it and when charging this is worse, and also if for example I put the phone on a surface the sensitivity drops to the maximum.
If you google it you will see a lot of reports of this issue in lenovo forums
do you have this touch issue too?

Yes, I have problems with the touchscreen sensitivity, because of this I removed the protective screen of the display which did not stick well because of the curvature of the screen. Now I use the phone without a foil screen protector and the touch is better . I read in this forum there are more people complained this matter . Also I can tell this is not Gorilla glas this is some glass equivalent to Gorilla glass 3 .

90% have this problem , is hardware issue . A10 solved it a little but still have it

I have this problem and it drives me crazy. I am still stuck on A9 so hoping A10 does indeed improve it a little. The worst is when the phone is sitting flat on my desk - it is almost impossible to use.

No touch issues here. XT1970-3 with tempered glass. Don't know about in games as I don't play.

I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages ​​and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.

yippee ki yay said:
I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages ​​and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.
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This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .

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This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .
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I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.

yippee ki yay said:
I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.
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I'm sure you're right about this but I'm sure you have a screen protector . I don't . So in my case your solution isn't quite well .

Help us to find a solution
Hello, I have the same problem but I found something that help...
My problem increase when is on a surface, but if you plug only the cable type C the problem is fix...
If you do it, just plug the cable to the phone and the other part leave it alone
I think the port or something internal there isn't connected to ground... Maybe someone with better knowledge in electronics can help.
Test it and tell me if works you

Bought one for my wife and updated to Android 10. I can confirm the issue still exists touch sensitivity is not very accurate . It's ok could be better but not a deal breaker. Motorola should do something z then again all hardware is made by samsung..... This model it's not produced anymore , I wonder why....

Question Xperia makes itself in the trouser pocket

When I carry the Xperia in my pocket and then take it out, the phone is usually in flight mode or silent because the display somehow activates in the pocket, and since the status bar can be operated despite the lock screen, the quick settings activate themselves.
Is there any option that does not allow the status bar to be operated when the screen is locked?
Had already written to Sony support, but only received the statement that probably the distance sensor has an error.
But I can not imagine with the best will in the world because the phone otherwise works fine.
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it's an issu that othe use having too from what i red
u must be on Android 12 i think...i'm still on 11 and i'm not facing these problems and never had at all

There's an app called "Shouko" that enhances the 'prevent accidental touch' feature, as well as a few other really cool features. I was having this same issue until I tried the Shuoko app. [(https://github.com/ivaniskandar/shouko) github user ivaniskandar did a dope job on this] It says you have to grant some permissions "manually with ADB or root," so either way you need at least some know-how about command line and ADB (maybe also fastboot, if you go root). I had root, so I didn't have to mess with the ADB strategy, but it says there's a guide in the app.
I also had my camera turning on ALLLL the time taking pictures of my pocket, heating my phone, and kiiiilllliiiing my battery. I figured this was the camera button, but turned out to be Settings -> System -> Gestures -> quick launch camera. It hasn't happened once after turning that off.

as another layer of redundancy on top of what Lunalsmojo wrote, you can also turn phone so screen faces outwards, that way your skin isn't activating the capacitative touch screen.

Thanks for the info. I will try to keep the phone upside down in my pocket.
If that doesn't help, I'll install the Shouko tool and see if I can get it to work via ADB.

I haven't had the problem because I carry my phone in a holster.