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hTC Sensation is coming soon ..
Many said that Sensation can't S-OFF
If this is true , will you buy it ?
hTC is perfect we all know that !
If Sensation is able to S-OFF . Then I think it can be the new King of PDA this year and next year .
what's S-OFF?
If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it. But its always possible, just a matter of how probable, and I think its quite probable. That is why I'm buying sensation over atrix (far less probable)
Custom roms to me are a VERY important part of the android experience, one thing that really sets it apart from apple, and most definately should not be denied to end users
Rellikzephyr
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That would be a hard decision.
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RellikZephyr said:
If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it.
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thanks for the explanation. don't know much about Android (yet), but I do know what's meant by that.
True but at least the phone is usable.
I come from a Motorola MIlestone where stock is a JOKE. Even with Launcher Pro, you're looking at a slideshow. Without an overclock and a lot of mods, the phone is utter crap.
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.
No way, custom ROMs is a very important part of the Android experience for me.
Br,
Henrik
dmo580 said:
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.
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Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???
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Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???
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If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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RellikZephyr said:
If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
no interest if it cant be s-off.
Desire HD is the way
Recalls the nightmare of sitting in G2root irc channel getting super frustrated. No I wont buy it especially seeing how Rubin stated there will be a new nexus device with the release of ice cream sandwich
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checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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You can't get S-OFF on a N1. You can only unlock the bootloader. Reboot your N1, and on the Nexus Cross splash screen, see if you can find the padlock. It's at the bottom. If it's there, the bootloader is unlocked. Simples
Only a handful of people have S-OFF on their Nexus One's here, one of which is Rusty! although I think he was trying to sell his a few weeks back.
I'm waiting till the Sensation is rooted and bootloader unlocked before I buy one. I may wait till S-OFF is available, but I'll see how things look after it's rooted and the bootloader is unlocked.
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checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
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RellikZephyr said:
My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
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Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......
why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.
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why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.
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Well, mods on the stock ROM, for one thing. I'd like to see CRT screen off animation, and deodex and zipalign the stock ROM.
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Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......
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That's interesting that you can flash custom kernels/roms and your phone shows little to no indication of being hacked. Be very handy for warranty jobs lol
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this is probably the wrong thread, but i'm not 100% what S-OFF is. what is it??
and if i were to get the Sensation, would I be able to install LauncherPro/ADW Launcher/GO launcher etc on it?
I am on my way to go and buy two At&t One x. They are currently still running 1.73 thankfully. Im not new to rooting or anything, just this device. My question is since its still on 1.73 should I unlock bootloader via HTC Dev, and will this mean i can always run a custom recovery and ROMS going forward?
Example: if bootloader is unlocked, can I then update a device to the most current (2.2 i believe) and still be able to have a custom recovery therefore run the ROM of my choice and even revert back to stock at will?
My goal is to keep it flexible and not lock myself out of an option because of an update. One of the devices is for my neice so I want her running stock for now, but would unlock the bootloader just as a safety net and to futureproof the device if we run some JB roms for her, or CM10. Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Im coming from a Nexus so Im not used to looking for exploits to run a ROM, well not since the EVO days. Thanks a plenty!
Honestly I wouldn't ever run the update on the phone. No reason to risk it as you can download the stock roms (or CleanROM) from the developers section and just flash it normally. This would be the most flexible.
Having said that, maybe someone else can chime in and answer your questions initial questions. I don't really know the answer.
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Your lucky use one of the one click root methods there's some on xDA or some that I can givenu a link too.... Than go on to unlocked boot loader ...honestly of u want her to be stock put her on clean rom.
So you're saying I should root first and not use HTC boot loader unlock tool? I'm still trying to search for the answer to my questions as well. What's the best root method? I honestly would like to have a custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and running stock 4.0.4 or better just to try it out first. Then find a good Rom . Any suggestions?
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So you're saying I should root first and not use HTC boot loader unlock tool? I'm still trying to search for the answer to my questions as well. What's the best root method? I honestly would like to have a custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and running stock 4.0.4 or better just to try it out first. Then find a good Rom . Any suggestions?
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I would unlock your boot loader. Flash teamwin recovery project, and then flash a STOCK ROOTED rom, whether it be sense or cleanrom. This will remove the ota feature so you don't accidentally update your hboot
Using the HTC boot loader unlock method is fine, if you don't mind your warranty being void. If not try the manual version. All of these tutorials are available in the android development section.
Once your boot loader is unlocked you are good to go. Just DO NOT RUU to 2.20 or you will not be able to flash kernels and radios.
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So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed? Got it. So any suggestion on the best stock ROM and then a Jelly Bean ROM? Do the one click root methods work the best?
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So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed? Got it. So any suggestion on the best stock ROM and then a Jelly Bean ROM? Do the one click root methods work the best?
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I was able to one click mine, however some users report they cannot use the one click method, but manual works for them.
Yes, never ruu to 2.20, even with an unlocked boot loader it will screw you over. If you ruu to 2.20 without supercid then you are just Sol completely.
As for stock ROMs, go try out Team Venoms ViperXL. Make sure you download "HTC One XL" and not "HTC One X" they are 2 different phones and flashing anything made for the One X will brick your One XL.
When it comes to jellybean, I am on MIUI because I like the iOS aspect of it. I still am a fan of Cyanogenmod, since that was the first aftermarket firmware I have used. So I would recommend CM10 unless you want a little more customization, then go with AOKP. I have never tried paranoid android, but it is a combination of CM10 and tablet display modes.
The One XL is codenamed "Evita" and the One X is codenamed "endeavour"
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Are these ROMs fully functioning? Camera is important for me. I thought that CM10 wasn't quite there yet but I'm definitely going to check some of these out. I don't have a computer here so I can't do anything yet. Its killing me! Thanks again for all the suggestions, Ill take all the help I can get!
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Are these ROMs fully functioning? Camera is important for me. I thought that CM10 wasn't quite there yet but I'm definitely going to check some of these out. I don't have a computer here so I can't do anything yet. Its killing me! Thanks again for all the suggestions, Ill take all the help I can get!
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Many of the sense ROMs are flawless.
The AOSP (Jellybean) ROMs are pretty stable, and camera does work on them.
CM10 is still in Nightly, but I think it'll be reaching a stable build soon.
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As for stock ROMs, go try out Team Venoms ViperXL.
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With a huge amount of awesome mods and customization options, I do not consider ViperXL to be a "stock ROM". Sense based, yes.
If the OP wants to stay strictly stock, there are flashable, pre-rooted versions of the most of the stock AT&T firmware versions.
But I think your point is a good one, that some of the custom ROMs build off of stock, while adding some optimizations and useful features, while keeping the stability of a stock ROM.
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So even with an unlocked boot loader if I ota to 2.2 I'm screwed?
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The 2.20 hboot plugs the whole by which kernels and radios can be flashed via recovery. So flashing the kernel/boot.img requires flashing separately using adb every time you flash a ROM. Not sure about radios.
Really, there is no benefit to updating officially either by RUU or OTA. You gain nothing, and lose ability to flash kernel and radios via recovery.
Be sure to check out the index of all the resources (sticky at the top of the Development forum): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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With a huge amount of awesome mods and customization options, I do not consider ViperXL to be a "stock ROM". Sense based, yes.
If the OP wants to stay strictly stock, there are flashable, pre-rooted versions of the most of the stock AT&T firmware versions.
But I think your point is a good one, that some of the custom ROMs build off of stock, while adding some optimizations and useful features, while keeping the stability of a stock ROM.
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The 2.20 hboot plugs the whole by which kernels and radios can be flashed via recovery. So flashing the kernel/boot.img requires flashing separately using adb every time you flash a ROM. Not sure about radios.
Really, there is no benefit to updating officially either by RUU or OTA. You gain nothing, and lose ability to flash kernel and radios via recovery.
Be sure to check out the index of all the resources (sticky at the top of the Development forum): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Heh, I meant stock as in "sense based"
You know what I meant (I hope),
But he might not have, thanks for pointing that out
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Yeah I knew what you meant! Like I said, not new to rooting and ROMs just knew to this device. Thanks again for the heads up on that thread. I'm going ROM crazy tonight once I root.
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As said before - root, unlock bl, flash recovery and flash a rom, be it stock rooted or custom.
Don't update to 2.20 OTA.
Quick question but maybe off topic. Is the screenshot to MMS problem fixed with custom ROMs? I noticed that if I send a screen shot via MMS its so small the recipient can't see it. Maybe a bug just on 1.73? Annoying none the less!
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Quick question but maybe off topic. Is the screenshot to MMS problem fixed with custom ROMs? I noticed that if I send a screen shot via MMS its so small the recipient can't see it. Maybe a bug just on 1.73? Annoying none the less!
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Can't answer that.. I can't send or receive MMS even though I have service and 4G LTE
But I don't think its an issue on AOSP
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Sounds more like an APN issue in your case. I'd double check your APN or even delete and set it up again.
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
T
as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.
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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota
Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.
Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy
Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.
I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot
Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a bunch of n00bish questions.
I recently acquired an HTC One X on Rogers for dirt cheap (basically $0) and this is my first Android phone having used an iPhone for the past few years. I'm not completely lost around ROMs having cut my teeth on windows mobile phones right here on xda-devs years ago but my iPhone took me away for a number of years.
I've gone through as much of the existing FAQs and help threads as I could but I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for: Hopefully these are simple enough for the folks here!
1) My HOX out of the box is running FW version 1.73, Android 4.0.3. I see there's some bootloader unlocking issues with AT&T HOX's with FW 1.85 and 2.2 and above. Do these restrictions not apply to the Rogers HOX? Is there a point i should be worried about not having an unlockable bootloader?
2) My ultimate goal is to get a maintainable ROM where I can easily get OS updates without having to manually reload any custom settings or apps. Being an Android n00b, I consistently hear about Cyanogenmod ROMs. Can I jump from my current Stock ROM straight to Cyanogenmod 10.1 JB? or do I have to do something in between?
3) Are there other community ROMs that's better for the HOX than CM? I'm looking for a plain jane out of box experience. I really love how the iPhone works really really great out of the box without any huge amount of setting changes. And that's what I strived for with my old windows mobile device ROMs.
4) Yay or Nay on HTC Sense?
5) Yay or Nay on Staying on the Stock Rogers ROMs (I think the JB update is available now).
6) If I elect to do all the OTA updates, is there something I should avoid like a permanent locked bootloader version or something like that?
7) If I install all the OTA updates and eventually end up on the Rogers JB rom (I assume it's a bunch of incremental updates since auto updates shows I have update 1.93 which isn't the JB rom), can I revert back to the 4.0.3 rom?
I think that's it for now... Sorry for the long list. it definitely grew as I typed it!
Thanks a tonne! I know how great a resource xda-devs was and is. Can't wait to get into all of this again. !
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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apologies for my probing questions as I'm trying to flesh out the dependencies of everything...
Does the rogers HOX need to be s-off'd when flashing custom ROMs.
How do OTA updates work? Do they only apply to a certain kind of stock ROMs? Do custom ROMs have OTA updates?
thanks,
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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When you say I shouldn't take an OTA update after unlocking the bootloader, why is that?
Let's say I unlock the bootloader, but keep the stock rogers ROM and OTA update it. These are just OS updates right? they shouldn't touch the bootloader or do they?
Also, if the Rogers Bootloader is not locked down, then do I even need to unlock it? or do you guys mean it's unlockABLE and still needs to be unlocked?
Does rooting also make a device not OTA'able?
Finally, how are the bootloaders tied to the FW version and to the OS version? Coming from an iPhone, there was the baseband/Radio FW and OS versions, and sometimes a specific hardware version, but that's it. what's the heirarchy for the bootloader and the FW, and the OS?
finally, if there's a good resource that answers a lot of these "android rom 101" questions, please send along a link. I know you guys are busy!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37665520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40223035
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
mr_yellow said:
Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Step 2 should be flash TWRP 2.3.x.x no need for superboot r2?... not sure what that is.
And you'll need to flash a rooted rom before S-OFF or let TWRP root your rom if your hboot is under 2.14
Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Venomtester said:
Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Lol, I don't care if other people answer too, so long as they're not answering with the wrong info. There's a few of us so it's hard to coordinate Didn't mean to jack your helping
Oh no sir. You didn't jack at all as I was going to quote your earlier post from a different thread.
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Thanks again guys!
Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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My two Rogers one x handsets came with lock bootloaders. I just unlocked my second on on Saturday.
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What he was saying is they can be unlocked without having to change the cid which is what us with att phones have to do
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Need HTC ONE X AT&T FACTORY image OR ROM
Android 4.2
Sense 5
NOT a Custom ROM , I need theStable Sense 5 Stock ROM for HTC ONE X AT&T ASAP
thxlu said:
Need HTC ONE X AT&T FACTORY image OR ROM
Android 4.2
Sense 5
NOT a Custom ROM , I need theStable Sense 5 Stock ROM for HTC ONE X AT&T ASAP
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eh?... why? RUUing would be the best solution. Are you not S-OFF?
exad said:
eh?... why? RUUing would be the best solution. Are you not S-OFF?
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its S-off ,
i need the orginal rom,
i want to flash the factory image of htc one x at&t , i cant find any, and i dont know how to flash factory images of htc devices,
but i know how to flash factory images of google nexus device , is it similar to this?
i want to restore HTC ONE X AT&T 'S everything to stock, like google nexus devices ,,
please help
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
XDA does have a search feature.
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timmaaa said:
http://androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
XDA does have a search feature.
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Can u Provide the exact links for HTC ONE X AT&T and can u provide step by step to How to flash this
btw I want Sense 5 Android 4.2 not sense 4
thanks
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http://dl3.htc.com/application/HTC_One_X_RUU_5.18.502.1.exe
Connect your phone to your PC and run the RUU program in Windows. Make sure no other programs are running. Make sure screen saver is turned off. I'm feeling generous and have given you exact file, next time please search before posting.
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thanks,
I have flashed so many ROMs but ,there were no stable ROM, Random Reboots and Signal issues,
that is why I wanted To revert Back To stock Factory image,
btw is this link for HTC ONE X OR HTC ONE X AT&T
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timmaaa said:
http://dl3.htc.com/application/HTC_One_X_RUU_5.18.502.1.exe
Connect your phone to your PC and run the RUU program in Windows. Make sure no other programs are running. Make sure screen saver is turned off. I'm feeling generous and have given you exact file, next time please search before posting.
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There are plenty of stable ROMs, you probably just don't have your phone set up correctly. Research is key.
The link is for our phone, why would I give you a link for a different phone?
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thxlu said:
I have flashed so many ROMs but ,there were no stable ROM, Random Reboots and Signal issues,
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The solution to this has been discussed here dozens (maybe even hundreds) of times.
The problem is not the custom ROMs, its your lack of research and understanding.
got the same problem
redpoint73 said:
The solution to this has been discussed here dozens (maybe even hundreds) of times.
The problem is not the custom ROMs, its your lack of research and understanding.
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Yeah well, i've been resarching a lot! and i haven't found any good stable rom for HTC one x PLUS from AT&T...
all i find is for HTC one X and HTC one XL, but not for the HTC one X+...
even though I consider myself to know not so a lot about computers and software, android ROMs are one of those things i know nothing about, so I have tried some roms and i haven't found one to work well on my phone, so i know it may be bothersome, but we need information on how to setup and how to do things and not brake the phone...
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got the same problem
Yeah well, i've been resarching a lot! and i haven't found any good stable rom for HTC one x PLUS from AT&T...
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It's not the same problem, since it's not the same phone, or even the right device forum section.
I wasn't all that familiar with the X+, and for that matter I don't even remember all that much about the phone I actually owned (One X) since it's been 3+ years since I even powered it on. But I do recall the X+ was kind of an oddball "between flagships" device and not much of a community not development. So your ROM choices, and other resources are limited.
hi . i need this rom : HTC_One_X_RUU_5.18.502.1.exe please help me. tnx