[Q] Will you buy Sensation if it can't S-OFF ? - HTC Sensation

hTC Sensation is coming soon ..
Many said that Sensation can't S-OFF
If this is true , will you buy it ?
hTC is perfect we all know that !
If Sensation is able to S-OFF . Then I think it can be the new King of PDA this year and next year .

what's S-OFF?

If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it. But its always possible, just a matter of how probable, and I think its quite probable. That is why I'm buying sensation over atrix (far less probable)
Custom roms to me are a VERY important part of the android experience, one thing that really sets it apart from apple, and most definately should not be denied to end users
Rellikzephyr
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That would be a hard decision.
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RellikZephyr said:
If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it.
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thanks for the explanation. don't know much about Android (yet), but I do know what's meant by that.

True but at least the phone is usable.
I come from a Motorola MIlestone where stock is a JOKE. Even with Launcher Pro, you're looking at a slideshow. Without an overclock and a lot of mods, the phone is utter crap.
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.

No way, custom ROMs is a very important part of the Android experience for me.
Br,
Henrik

dmo580 said:
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.
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Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???

cqms13 said:
Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???
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If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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RellikZephyr said:
If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......

no interest if it cant be s-off.
Desire HD is the way

Recalls the nightmare of sitting in G2root irc channel getting super frustrated. No I wont buy it especially seeing how Rubin stated there will be a new nexus device with the release of ice cream sandwich
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cqms13 said:
checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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You can't get S-OFF on a N1. You can only unlock the bootloader. Reboot your N1, and on the Nexus Cross splash screen, see if you can find the padlock. It's at the bottom. If it's there, the bootloader is unlocked. Simples
Only a handful of people have S-OFF on their Nexus One's here, one of which is Rusty! although I think he was trying to sell his a few weeks back.

I'm waiting till the Sensation is rooted and bootloader unlocked before I buy one. I may wait till S-OFF is available, but I'll see how things look after it's rooted and the bootloader is unlocked.

cqms13 said:
checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
Rellikzephyr
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RellikZephyr said:
My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
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Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......

why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.

willumpie82 said:
why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.
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Well, mods on the stock ROM, for one thing. I'd like to see CRT screen off animation, and deodex and zipalign the stock ROM.

cqms13 said:
Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......
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That's interesting that you can flash custom kernels/roms and your phone shows little to no indication of being hacked. Be very handy for warranty jobs lol
Rellikzephyr
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this is probably the wrong thread, but i'm not 100% what S-OFF is. what is it??
and if i were to get the Sensation, would I be able to install LauncherPro/ADW Launcher/GO launcher etc on it?

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Can you please explain the status on rooting (s-on/s-off etc.)?

My wife has a Mytouch 4G slide that has never been rooted and has all the latest updates from T-Mobile. I keep reading conflicting information with regard to whether this is a problem (the whole s-off/s-on thing).
I was thinking of trying out one of the Ice Cream Sandwich Roms. Can I root her phone? Should I root her phone? Is there a link with good current information?
just to sum it up:
with the latest OTA you cannot achieve s-off (yet), however, you can unlock the bootloader and then root and flash recovery and roms using the official htcdev unlocking method (which apparently voids your warranty instantly)
Braccoz said:
just to sum it up:
with the latest OTA you cannot achieve s-off (yet), however, you can unlock the bootloader and then root and flash recovery and roms using the official htcdev unlocking method (which apparently voids your warranty instantly)
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No.
The unlocker is currently broken for (most) people.
It only voids your warranty if any damage results from anything you flash. Flash an OC kernel and burn up your phone, not their fault. Keyboard falls apart due to use, their fault.
The confusion continues - is there not a "root your mytouch 4g slide wiki" with current information?
qwerty3656 said:
The confusion continues - is there not a "root your mytouch 4g slide wiki" with current information?
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there is, but in a sense that info is not 100% current.... those tools won't work if her phone is S-ON with HBOOT 1.45.0013(software version 1.55.531.3).
keep an eye out tho for news on another update that is supposed to make the official HTC unlocker tool work by the end of the month
I wanna get my hands on another to see if I can duplicate the 2 I unlocked
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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mrbmg said:
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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From what I've read, HTC is aware of the Unlocker not properly unlocking the MT4GS. All we can do now is wait since Revolutionary hasn't figured out a method to replace the 1.45.0013 HBOOT yet.
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... All we can do now is wait since Revolutionary hasn't figured out a method to replace the 1.45.0013 HBOOT yet.
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I disagree, we should be looking for a way to get current s-on devices either s-off (preferably) or at least unlocked.
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yogi2010 said:
there is, but in a sense that info is not 100% current.... those tools won't work if her phone is S-ON with HBOOT 1.45.0013(software version 1.55.531.3).
keep an eye out tho for news on another update that is supposed to make the official HTC unlocker tool work by the end of the month
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So I just got a warranty exchange and my HBOOT version is 1.44.007, so I should be good to do S-off correct?
BiggJurk said:
So I just got a warranty exchange and my HBOOT version is 1.44.007, so I should be good to do S-off correct?
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yep, you're good to get S-OFF.
jonnycat26 said:
It only voids your warranty if any damage results from anything you flash. Flash an OC kernel and burn up your phone, not their fault. Keyboard falls apart due to use, their fault.
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Doesn't matter if it's a hardware or software issue. If you mod your phone in any way, the warranty is void, unless you revert back to stock. Even if it's just a software mod, like a custom rom or kernel.
Lucky!
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU
gtmaster303 said:
Doesn't matter if it's a hardware or software issue. If you mod your phone in any way, the warranty is void, unless you revert back to stock. Even if it's just a software mod, like a custom rom or kernel.
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Incorrect. Read HTC's unlock disclaimer. It will only void the warranty if It's damage you caused by flashing something. Normal hardware issues are still covered as the original warranty would do.
And I got the phone... It came with the 1.55
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mrbmg said:
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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I am actually in the same exact boat as you... Needed more power out my G2, so I upgraded to the 4G Slide
Mine will be coming in sometime next week, directly from HTC. Fairly excited. I had to send it in for warranty repair.
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And I got the phone... It came with the 1.55
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Will HTC change my phone version because I sent it in for warranty repair? Didn't even know what version it had before I sent it in, because the phone wouldn't power on.
You wouldn't think they would. But then again they might try and get it all the way up tp date before sending it back out. Good question.
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mrbmg said:
You wouldn't think they would. But then again they might try and get it all the way up tp date before sending it back out. Good question.
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They say that any devices that come to them will be shipped out again with the most recent software on them.
I recently had to send one of mine in, it came back as it was when I sent it out - but the current OTA is on pause so that may be why.
I think at this stage it would be a dice roll...
Blue6IX said:
They say that any devices that come to them will be shipped out again with the most recent software on them.
I recently had to send one of mine in, it came back as it was when I sent it out - but the current OTA is on pause so that may be why.
I think at this stage it would be a dice roll...
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Well it's better to send it in sooner, rather than later.
Besides, my device wouldn't turn on at all anyway, so I didn't really have a choice.
Hoping they don't update it though.
Is there any way I can call them and tell to not update it, if possible?

Unlocked Bootloader Now Available

The T-Mobile US MT4G was just added to the HTC Dev site!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
I suppose this doesn't much affect those of us already running the engineering bootloader, but pretty cool nevertheless.
TeeJay3800 said:
The T-Mobile US MT4G was just added to the HTC Dev site!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
I suppose this doesn't much affect those of us already running the engineering bootloader, but pretty cool nevertheless.
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Wow!
Yeah it doesn't really affect those with root... But it shows that HTC still remembers this "old" device
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DON'T DO IT WHATEVER YOU DO!! It marks your devices warranty as voided and any ROM that doesn't run the same kernel as the ROM you have when you use this won't work. You will have to manually push the boot.img of any new kernel out there. I have to do it on my 3vo3d and it's a *****.
Nicgraner said:
DON'T DO IT WHATEVER YOU DO!! It marks your devices warranty as voided and any ROM that doesn't run the same kernel as the ROM you have when you use this won't work. You will have to manually push the boot.img of any new kernel out there. I have to do it on my 3vo3d and it's a *****.
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Wow, great advice. Seems this thing is completely worthless then.
Nicgraner said:
DON'T DO IT WHATEVER YOU DO!! It marks your devices warranty as voided and any ROM that doesn't run the same kernel as the ROM you have when you use this won't work. You will have to manually push the boot.img of any new kernel out there. I have to do it on my 3vo3d and it's a *****.
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Really? Yikes! Makes me wonder why people on other devices have been clamoring for unlocked bootloaders for so long.
TeeJay3800 said:
Really? Yikes! Makes me wonder why people on other devices have been clamoring for unlocked bootloaders for so long.
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I mean it's awesome HTC still recognizes our device but they make you go through way too much to do it. I'd rather stick with exploits. Thanks for the link anyway TeeJay
I wonder if a lot of people will still go through with this not knowing the limitations of HTC's unlocking method.
shekki said:
I wonder if a lot of people will still go through with this not knowing the limitations of HTC's unlocking method.
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I guarantee that they will. Since there is a root exploit already there is really no reason to do this other than giving the manufacturer proof that you voided your warranty.
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eqjunkie829 said:
I guarantee that they will. Since there is a root exploit already there is really no reason to do this other than giving the manufacturer proof that you voided your warranty.
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Yup. That's about it. And I guarantee we will see millions of threads saying "help my phone won't turn on" because they have NO idea how to flash boot.img's
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Lol people are already asking about the unlocked bootloader. Check the Q & A.
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Nicgraner said:
DON'T DO IT WHATEVER YOU DO!! It marks your devices warranty as voided and any ROM that doesn't run the same kernel as the ROM you have when you use this won't work. You will have to manually push the boot.img of any new kernel out there. I have to do it on my 3vo3d and it's a *****.
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I wouldn't say its a ***** but just an added step. Though I will agree you guys will start getting a few threads of people not getting it to boot, because they think its as easy as flashing in cwr. Coming from the desirehd section, even after explaining it to people they can't grasp it.
To me the biggest con, is needing to push the boot.img but that's because I tend to flash roms on the go. Xda method of soff is still the best but i think its a good idea for those devices that dont curently have an soff method.
My mom has a mytouch 4g so I'm thinking of giving this a shot to play around with. Her warranty was void a long time ago(replaced screen,water/coffee damage). It will be fun trying out your roms in this neck of the woods
well what exactly does unlocking bootloader do?? pros and cons??.. sorry i'm new to this stuff...
Nicgraner said:
DON'T DO IT WHATEVER YOU DO!! It marks your devices warranty as voided and any ROM that doesn't run the same kernel as the ROM you have when you use this won't work. You will have to manually push the boot.img of any new kernel out there. I have to do it on my 3vo3d and it's a *****.
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Once unlocked, can't we just flash eng. bootloader and get rid of this issue?
Just asking... I'm already rooted and I have a Panache anyway
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SprigganMaster said:
Once unlocked, can't we just flash eng. bootloader and get rid of this issue?
Just asking... I'm already rooted and I have a Panache anyway
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From what I understand, it only unlocks certain parts of the phone. I doubt it will work as the phone stays son. Only thing that we fan flash is cwr, and roms.
Based on prior post, it feels like its more work to use htc method. I completely agree with everybody else, dont use this method to unlock unless you cannot operate technology(at which point u shouldnt root). I have replaced my phone 3 times under warrenty, its a good phone but has some defects...this basically gives htc proof that we voided their warrenty....however, could we tweak the program so it does waht WE want. I dont know anything about programming but couldnt we have it so that it unlocks the bootloader and autoflashes eng? Then tweak it so that it doesnt send its reports back to htc?
not worth it. we have to do this on the amaze to get root and once its unlocked it cant be relocked without a big fat "RELOCKED" in hboot. as far as warranty goes, htc will still cover you in the event of hardware malfunction, but not if they determine its related to software. thats the word at least...

Locked bootloader after hardware repair

Hi there people, firstly I would like to thank all the devs and xda users out there that have helped me in the past. Xda all the way.
Right, I have a proplem. I currently have a HTC sensation and more or less know everything there is to know about how it works, rooting, installing rims etc, as I have done this plenty of times before. When I bought the phone secondhand it was unlocked although still branded to Vodafone. I pushed it to the max with mods and upgrades but then came a hardware fault. Not sure what it was so sent it to HTC. I received it back good as new and was able to mod it again Luke before... One more hardware fault meant sending it off again. This time I received it as good as new, but now the bootloader is locked...and before you say anything, I have run the official htcdev unlock but no luck. Unlock token check keeps failing. I would like to root so I can install Roms and kernels as the stock os is really slow and I don't even need the HTC sense. I had it overclocked to 2ghz before, with the xe Rom with beats. Was great, but now I can't do anything... If anyone out there knows what to do, please let me know because I know a lot of people are having the same problem... It's due to a motherboard replacement or something that wasn't originally intended for unlocking so not on some list...
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lovemyhtcdz said:
Hi there people, firstly I would like to thank all the devs and xda users out there that have helped me in the past. Xda all the way.
Right, I have a proplem. I currently have a HTC sensation and more or less know everything there is to know about how it works, rooting, installing rims etc, as I have done this plenty of times before. When I bought the phone secondhand it was unlocked although still branded to Vodafone. I pushed it to the max with mods and upgrades but then came a hardware fault. Not sure what it was so sent it to HTC. I received it back good as new and was able to mod it again Luke before... One more hardware fault meant sending it off again. This time I received it as good as new, but now the bootloader is locked...and before you say anything, I have run the official htcdev unlock but no luck. Unlock token check keeps failing. I would like to root so I can install Roms and kernels as the stock os is really slow and I don't even need the HTC sense. I had it overclocked to 2ghz before, with the xe Rom with beats. Was great, but now I can't do anything... If anyone out there knows what to do, please let me know because I know a lot of people are having the same problem... It's due to a motherboard replacement or something that wasn't originally intended for unlocking so not on some list...
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Your motherboard has been replaced.
HTC Dev unlock does not support the new motherboards.
Check your IMEI, it should have changed with the change in the motherboard.
Now, if you do want to enjoy all the benefits of having an unlocked bootloader, I can suggest an appropriate method if your can provide the details of your Hboot.
Yh I guessed that may have been the problem... My hboot is 1.27.. I now have s-off after countless attempts with juopunutbear, and wire trick... But I'm still not completely happy.. I havemy custom recovery and rooted Rom but I still can't use custom kernels for oc, etc.. any suggestions???
lovemyhtcdz said:
Yh I guessed that may have been the problem... My hboot is 1.27.. I now have s-off after countless attempts with juopunutbear, and wire trick... But I'm still not completely happy.. I havemy custom recovery and rooted Rom but I still can't use custom kernels for oc, etc.. any suggestions???
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You are on JuopunutBear bootloader, right?

About to purchase HOX from the ATT online store...

What are the chances that the bootloader will be unlockable?
I'm assuming that the HOX I get won't come with the latest OS updates?
Last thing I want is a HOX that can't be unlocked (bootloader).
Thanks guys!
I'd assume new devices from at&t will have the latest unrootable version of the firmware
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I'd assume new devices from at&t will have the latest unrootable version of the firmware
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Crap!
I don't want to be stuck with the bloated stock room.
Go buy it at a store. Open it up and check. V
Just got a One X from my local AT&T Store... 2.20 on all of them (or so I was told). I think it's a bit late to hope to get a 1.85 from the store, but best of luck. Now I just keep my fingers crossed for a root method for 2.20.
firlt athowith
So just to be clear: at the moment, a HOX that comes with 2.20 cannot be rooted to flash custom roms.
Am I right?
that is correct
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that is correct
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Well crap.
Now I can't decide what phone to get.
I love the HOX screen but on the other hand, I can root the GS3 instantly and flash an AOSKP rom and get rid of touchwiz.
Wonder how long it will take for 2.20 to be unlocked.
what to do....what to do.
I don't believe it is unrootable. I think we just haven't found a way to do it yet. I may be wrong and if I am then can someone elaborate?
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ruffdogtechy said:
I don't believe it is unrootable. I think we just haven't found a way to do it yet. I may be wrong and if I am then can someone elaborate?
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Even if there is 0% chance to root 2.20, there may be exploits in newer versions.
I used to have an HTC aria, which shipped with hboot .57, but (I believe) s-off wasn't discovered until it's hboot was updated to 1.02
Moral of my story: There is almost always a way to get around security measures
But how long will it take? Who knows. I'm sure someone will make a breakthrough eventually
Dude, just get the s3. Going from a rooted phone to a locked down phone sucks balls. I can't wait to see what next year brings for phones, as I can upgrade in July. That being said, the one x is an awesome phone,even without root. Stock 2.20 is more stable than any rooted ROM I have ever run I don't have many complaints other than being locked down at all. I know I contradict my self, but it basically comes down to only one thing. You want root, get a different phone. But you will be missing out on a good phone IMO.
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Opinion needed !

so I just got this At&t HTC One X for my girl....usually i like to root and install custom ROM because you can do so many things and battery life is definitely better...but its not all true for all the devices....I have Nexus 4 so any custom ROMs work great....and since i am new to HTC One X i have no idea how stable it is on custom ROMs....so i need u guy's opinion who are already on custom ROMs in this phone...should i leave it this phone as it is..(phone is in 4.1.1 version) or flash custom ROM...what are your experiences...tell me about the pros and cons of installing custom ROM in HTC One X or staying stock unrooted.?
Thanks in advance.
The question is does she really need a modified device, and unless she's a tech nerd the answer is most likely no. If she's your average phone user a stock setup is probably sufficient. Plus, never give a modified device to someone who isn't completely savvy with modified devices.
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timmaaa said:
The question is does she really need a modified device, and unless she's a tech nerd the answer is most likely no. If she's your average phone user a stock setup is probably sufficient. Plus, never give a modified device to someone who isn't completely savvy with modified devices.
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you are right....she's not a tech nerd at all....
i will take ur advice and leave it unrooted and stock...
thanks for the advice.
No problem. If you ever need help with the device don't be afraid to sing out here.
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There should be a 4.2.2 update from HTC though. Sense 5 was a pretty nice improvement IMO, and since its from HTC you shouldnt have to worry about most of the problems that can occur when flashing custom ROMs.
Except if the device has SuperCID, then an RUU could brick it.
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I read there was an OTA from AT&T back in January. To be safe you could power the phone into bootloader and as long as you dont see "TAMPERED" or "111111111" you should be alright to update.
S-on devices don't display the CID in the bootloader so it won't show up there. To find out for sure fastboot is needed.
Code:
fastboot oem readcid
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ya...i updated it to 4.4.2 with sense 5...running good so far....let's see how good is battery life.
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