What are the chances that the bootloader will be unlockable?
I'm assuming that the HOX I get won't come with the latest OS updates?
Last thing I want is a HOX that can't be unlocked (bootloader).
Thanks guys!
I'd assume new devices from at&t will have the latest unrootable version of the firmware
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I'd assume new devices from at&t will have the latest unrootable version of the firmware
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Crap!
I don't want to be stuck with the bloated stock room.
Go buy it at a store. Open it up and check. V
Just got a One X from my local AT&T Store... 2.20 on all of them (or so I was told). I think it's a bit late to hope to get a 1.85 from the store, but best of luck. Now I just keep my fingers crossed for a root method for 2.20.
firlt athowith
So just to be clear: at the moment, a HOX that comes with 2.20 cannot be rooted to flash custom roms.
Am I right?
that is correct
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that is correct
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Well crap.
Now I can't decide what phone to get.
I love the HOX screen but on the other hand, I can root the GS3 instantly and flash an AOSKP rom and get rid of touchwiz.
Wonder how long it will take for 2.20 to be unlocked.
what to do....what to do.
I don't believe it is unrootable. I think we just haven't found a way to do it yet. I may be wrong and if I am then can someone elaborate?
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ruffdogtechy said:
I don't believe it is unrootable. I think we just haven't found a way to do it yet. I may be wrong and if I am then can someone elaborate?
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Even if there is 0% chance to root 2.20, there may be exploits in newer versions.
I used to have an HTC aria, which shipped with hboot .57, but (I believe) s-off wasn't discovered until it's hboot was updated to 1.02
Moral of my story: There is almost always a way to get around security measures
But how long will it take? Who knows. I'm sure someone will make a breakthrough eventually
Dude, just get the s3. Going from a rooted phone to a locked down phone sucks balls. I can't wait to see what next year brings for phones, as I can upgrade in July. That being said, the one x is an awesome phone,even without root. Stock 2.20 is more stable than any rooted ROM I have ever run I don't have many complaints other than being locked down at all. I know I contradict my self, but it basically comes down to only one thing. You want root, get a different phone. But you will be missing out on a good phone IMO.
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I am going to be getting an AT&T One X today and was planning on rooting and unlocking it as soon as I got it. How does the new OTA affect that? I saw some people mentioning AT&T might have blocked the exploit, but no one confirmed. I can't wait to get this phone!!
If your phone comes with the new 2.20 firmware it can't be rooted yet. I haven't seen whether the 1.85 exploit still works or not.
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If your phone comes with the new 2.20 firmware it can't be rooted yet. I haven't seen whether the 1.85 exploit still works or not.
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It basically c-blocks the exploit as well.
Tested on two phones, I got lucky I did mine a couple nights ago
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It basically c-blocks the exploit as well.
Tested on two phones, I got lucky I did mine a couple nights ago
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Damn. Well if anyone needs someone with a clean, stock device to test stuff on, I can help!
I'm just wondering as to the status of gaining root access on the AT&T 2.20 update. I just bought my HOX via a third party, and it came with 2.20, so right now I'm SOL.
I know ETA's don't typically exist, but will creating a bounty help move this along?
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I'm just wondering as to the status of gaining root access on the AT&T 2.20 update. I just bought my HOX via a third party, and it came with 2.20, so right now I'm SOL.
I know ETA's don't typically exist, but will creating a bounty help move this along?
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Hopefully someone finds an exploit because I want to install a custom rom so badly!
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There's nothing to report. My gut feeling is we will need to be granted sanctioned bootloader unlock to get root again.
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There's nothing to report. My gut feeling is we will need to be granted sanctioned bootloader unlock to get root again.
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sorry I'm not so good with rooting. Does that mean that we need htc to let us unlock our bootloader so we can install a rooted android os?
nvidia31337 said:
sorry I'm not so good with rooting. Does that mean that we need htc to let us unlock our bootloader so we can install a rooted android os?
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Yes or someone needs to find a new exploit for the new 2.20 to allow root.
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Yes. At the very least we need unlocked bootloader in order to install a custom recovery so we can install root.
I found this just a moment ago. I have no clue if these would work though.
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=193
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I found this just a moment ago. I have no clue if these would work though.
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=193
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You need to be rooted and bootloader unlocked to flash a ROM.
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newsteadmission said:
I found this just a moment ago. I have no clue if these would work though.
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=193
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Lol that rom is from one of our devs it's his website the rom is in the dev section its a rooted version of the update without the hboot. It does no good to anyone who took the ota that was locked and had no root prior to doing so.
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I'm afraid I'm not as versed in Android phones as I am with Apple. It seems that Android is a bit more complex. Well, I tried to help, hehe.
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You need to be rooted and bootloader unlocked to flash a ROM.
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Bounty
GuyIncognito721 said:
I'm just wondering as to the status of gaining root access on the AT&T 2.20 update. I just bought my HOX via a third party, and it came with 2.20, so right now I'm SOL.
I know ETA's don't typically exist, but will creating a bounty help move this along?
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I am willing to pay 10,000,000 Schrute bucks or 8,000,000,000,000 Stanley nickels to the champion.
no rootable?
well i just got my HTC One X today and the Software - is firmware right?- is 2.20.502.7 710RD. Is that really not unlockable n obody can root it ???
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well i just got my HTC One X today and the Software - is firmware right?- is 2.20.502.7 710RD. Is that really not unlockable n obody can root it ???
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Unfortunately yes for now
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Fars666 said:
well i just got my HTC One X today and the Software - is firmware right?- is 2.20.502.7 710RD. Is that really not unlockable n obody can root it ???
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If you have a retail outlet around you (i.e. Best Buy, etc.), you can do what I did. Return the new phone and buy one from old shelf stock. If they received it before August then it's guaranteed to have firmware of 1.85 or older.
This is really bad!
any news or updates about being able to root 2.20? I have a HOX on 2.20 and i'm wondering if I should just sell it or wait
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any news or updates about being able to root 2.20? I have a HOX on 2.20 and i'm wondering if I should just sell it or wait
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As of now still no updates on when root will be achieved.
There is thread in the general section
Root 2.20 Think Tank
That is where you will find the most update info.
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I know I am missing something. I am a newbie, but I've been trying to root my phone for about 3 weeks. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I've gone through the most common ways I've seen. I'm currently running software version 2.20 and still trying to root, but even before I updated, I was trying and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.
Well not to be rude, but the moment you updated to 2.20 you were pretty much screwed if you wanted to root unless it's a Rogers or the Australian HOX which it is not.
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Okay,
Well I couldn't figure out what to before I updated either. So I'm screwed for ever? Or?
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Well I couldn't figure out what to before I updated either. So I'm screwed for ever? Or?
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Your stuck till someone figures out an exploit to root the 2.20 update or HTC allows us to unlock the bootloader on our att one x. I'd put my money on the first rather than the later.
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Well I couldn't figure out what to before I updated either. So I'm screwed for ever? Or?
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This is the #2 post stickied to the top of the Development subforum, it would have linked you to everything you needed to know: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And for future reference, if you are interested in rooting and modding Android phones, don't ever install an OTA without researching first, and being confidant in your knowledge.
Yeah, for now you are screwed. And for how long, nobody knows.
Thank you for your help and information. That's what I pretty much needed to know because I felt like I was missing something.
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On a random note, after hitting postpone a few times the ota just updated itself, without my interaction. So for me I didn't have a choice, but to update to 2.20.
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On a random note, after hitting postpone a few times the ota just updated itself, without my interaction. So for me I didn't have a choice, but to update to 2.20.
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You had a choice alright, you could have rooted/unlocked/ROM'd before it updated. Standing at the precipice, sometimes you just gotta jump. Know what I mean?
I've read that the At&t one x can't be rooted. Is this true?? If it is then im gonna go with the S3.
Depends on the software.
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What version does it have to be to be rooted?
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What version does it have to be to be rooted?
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1.85 or earlier. The 2.20 update is not rootable right now.
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Ok thanks.
Please keep all question related threads in the Q&A section only please. Thank You.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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So do the newest phones from att now come with 2.20? So pretty much useless to us xda folk?
Thanks
I am also due for an upgrade, but will just get the Galaxy if the newest one x's are unrootable.
skeppley said:
So do the newest phones from att now come with 2.20? So pretty much useless to us xda folk?
Thanks
I am also due for an upgrade, but will just get the Galaxy if the newest one x's are unrootable.
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I'd say there is a 40% ull get on on 2.20 i got mine about a week and half ago it came with 1.73 so it's all draw of the hat I'd still get this phone anyways it's a good phone even on stock
I got onef rom work and it has 2.20....so I guess no root or custom ROMS until someone figures it out.
But someone will definitely figure it out yeah ?
One x is an awesome phone. Get that. Use it for a while and then you can root it after one of the developers figures a way out
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Does the AT&T version of this phone suppose to come with a pair of Beats head phones?
Datfoooo said:
Does the AT&T version of this phone suppose to come with a pair of Beats head phones?
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No.
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I got onef rom work and it has 2.20....so I guess no root or custom ROMS until someone figures it out.
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Or if AT&T ever lets the bootloader get unlocked.
Are there many devices that remain un*rootable for the duration of their usable life?
Thanks all.
Went to swappa and found a mint white HOX running 1.85 and bootloader unlocked with TWCP. Now at least I know I'll get a good usable phone
Any word on root for 2.20???
Datfoooo said:
Any word on root for 2.20???
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As of right now, no root yet
ronnie498 said:
As of right now, no root yet
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waiting waiting waiting!
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.
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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota
Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.
Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy
Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.
I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot
Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.