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hTC Sensation is coming soon ..
Many said that Sensation can't S-OFF
If this is true , will you buy it ?
hTC is perfect we all know that !
If Sensation is able to S-OFF . Then I think it can be the new King of PDA this year and next year .
what's S-OFF?
If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it. But its always possible, just a matter of how probable, and I think its quite probable. That is why I'm buying sensation over atrix (far less probable)
Custom roms to me are a VERY important part of the android experience, one thing that really sets it apart from apple, and most definately should not be denied to end users
Rellikzephyr
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That would be a hard decision.
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RellikZephyr said:
If it could NEVER achieve S-OFF, or unlocked bootloader (for xnifex), then no i would not buy it.
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thanks for the explanation. don't know much about Android (yet), but I do know what's meant by that.
True but at least the phone is usable.
I come from a Motorola MIlestone where stock is a JOKE. Even with Launcher Pro, you're looking at a slideshow. Without an overclock and a lot of mods, the phone is utter crap.
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.
No way, custom ROMs is a very important part of the Android experience for me.
Br,
Henrik
dmo580 said:
Hey we don't have an unlocked bootloader but at least we achieved ROOT. Without S-OFF, the phone is practically useless. However, the benefit is that Sense 3.0 is damn sexy at least. I think I could make do with that.
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Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???
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Maybe I dont know what i am talking about but with my Nexus One I have root but my bootloader is still locked (afaik).
It hasnt stopped me from flashing all and every type of rom/kernel/morph etc etc
Cant the sensation be the same???
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If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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RellikZephyr said:
If your flashing roms with custom kernels (i.e. cyanogenmod or miui), then your bootloader is unlocked. Its not possible otherwise, even on nexus
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checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
no interest if it cant be s-off.
Desire HD is the way
Recalls the nightmare of sitting in G2root irc channel getting super frustrated. No I wont buy it especially seeing how Rubin stated there will be a new nexus device with the release of ice cream sandwich
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cqms13 said:
checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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You can't get S-OFF on a N1. You can only unlock the bootloader. Reboot your N1, and on the Nexus Cross splash screen, see if you can find the padlock. It's at the bottom. If it's there, the bootloader is unlocked. Simples
Only a handful of people have S-OFF on their Nexus One's here, one of which is Rusty! although I think he was trying to sell his a few weeks back.
I'm waiting till the Sensation is rooted and bootloader unlocked before I buy one. I may wait till S-OFF is available, but I'll see how things look after it's rooted and the bootloader is unlocked.
cqms13 said:
checked and my nexus says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
does this not mean the bootloader is locked
my head hurts......
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My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
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RellikZephyr said:
My nexus still says S-ON, but just above that in pink writing, it says unlocked, or something like that
Plus the unlock pic on boot up is another give away, but later rooting methods bypassed that somehow, being unlocked but not showing unlock symbol. Not sure how or whatever cause I unlocked mine 2 weeks after I bought it
But I can guarantee if your flashing custom kernels, your unlocked. As android will not allow custom kernels to be flashed unless you have an insecure bootloader
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Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......
why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.
willumpie82 said:
why bother about custom roms if the stock rom probably can't be better.
I'am running RCMix S on my HTC desire because the stock software is outdated.
by the time the software of the sensation won't be updated anymore (1,5year) it will be rooted/s-off
I'm waiting to see and feel one in a shop before buying it, I really like the specs but find it quite big.
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Well, mods on the stock ROM, for one thing. I'd like to see CRT screen off animation, and deodex and zipalign the stock ROM.
cqms13 said:
Yeah - ur right - used a later method of root etc (waited for over 3 months to do it) - have no padlock or pink writing
guess i was getting confused between s-off and bootloader lock etc
thanks for clearing that up for me
my head still hurts though.......
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That's interesting that you can flash custom kernels/roms and your phone shows little to no indication of being hacked. Be very handy for warranty jobs lol
Rellikzephyr
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this is probably the wrong thread, but i'm not 100% what S-OFF is. what is it??
and if i were to get the Sensation, would I be able to install LauncherPro/ADW Launcher/GO launcher etc on it?
Since purchasing my Sensation 4G I have been eagerly reading these forums. Of particular interest to me have been the unlocking and flashing threads. I have been toying with the idea of doing so with my device, but since I heard HTC was going to release the official unlocker I have held off to compare the two. Now that both methods are available I am looking for some objective (key word!) advice.
1) Functional, is there any difference in capabilities after unlocking in using one method vs the other? If so please explain. (for instance, does one method allow you to do X and the other does not)
2) After unlocking via the HTC method, how does the process of flashing ROMs differ?
3) Assuming HTC does release official ROMs as it appears they will, can they only be flashed onto a phone that has been officially unlocked?
1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.
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1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.
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That is good information. I mistakenly believed that the HTC unlocker gave the user root.
Nope it doesn't give root. Actually you don't even need root to flash a rom, custom or otherwise. You just need a custom recovery installed (can be done through bootloader). Most custom roms come rooted.
Keep in mind that the official HTC way of unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, whereas with the revolutionary method, you can reverse that and reapply S-ON (I don't know about reversing the HTC way).
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The AT&T way.
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BUT seriously the xda way cause it can be reversed
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xda way. Definitely.
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Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader
Of course Revolutionary is much better
theres two sides
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.
Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?
HTC Way - Give HTC my personal and phone information and void my warranty.
XDA Way - Give HTC nothing, unlock via a reversible method. And if I have a hardware issue not related to unlocking, I can reverse the unlock and still utilize my device warranty.
XDA Way FTW !
Given how anal HTC has become over this matter. (I could care less their reasons, so please spare me any soap box moments over why HTC does things their way.) That is why the Sensation my be my last HTC device. Some other OEMs are less anal about 3rd party developers unlocking a device. So post-Sensation I'll probably get something that is more developer friendly.
bcpk said:
Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?
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XDA method of course
daman215 said:
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.
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I'm sure they wouldn't fix it. Due to signing in and getting your device unlocked for HTC, voids your warranty. So more than likely they will count it as damage done by user and not really care that your phone isn't working.
But, if I'm incorrect, just tell me so.
There is a common misconception on this forum that using the HTC method voids your warranty, and I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. According to HTC (link below), you only void your warranty IF you brick your phone. If you think about it, that kind of makes sense anyway. Does that change anyones mind about which method is better?
"What does this mean for me?
Unlocking the bootloader means that you now have the ability to customize software on your device. Please note that changing your bootloader can cause significant issues with your device and once you have unlocked your device, you have agreed to the disclaimer that states a change in warranty status such that in the event you render your device unusable, you are responsible for the recovery of your device, whether by repair or by other means."
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".
Trekest said:
Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".
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Right, but do you realistically expect them to honor your warranty if you brick it by any method (official or otherwise)? I dont think they really care what you did to kill the phone, I am willing to bet they wont replace it in either case.
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Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader
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Does that command really work? I thought getting S-ON was a lot more complicated than that.
My wife has a Mytouch 4G slide that has never been rooted and has all the latest updates from T-Mobile. I keep reading conflicting information with regard to whether this is a problem (the whole s-off/s-on thing).
I was thinking of trying out one of the Ice Cream Sandwich Roms. Can I root her phone? Should I root her phone? Is there a link with good current information?
just to sum it up:
with the latest OTA you cannot achieve s-off (yet), however, you can unlock the bootloader and then root and flash recovery and roms using the official htcdev unlocking method (which apparently voids your warranty instantly)
Braccoz said:
just to sum it up:
with the latest OTA you cannot achieve s-off (yet), however, you can unlock the bootloader and then root and flash recovery and roms using the official htcdev unlocking method (which apparently voids your warranty instantly)
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No.
The unlocker is currently broken for (most) people.
It only voids your warranty if any damage results from anything you flash. Flash an OC kernel and burn up your phone, not their fault. Keyboard falls apart due to use, their fault.
The confusion continues - is there not a "root your mytouch 4g slide wiki" with current information?
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The confusion continues - is there not a "root your mytouch 4g slide wiki" with current information?
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there is, but in a sense that info is not 100% current.... those tools won't work if her phone is S-ON with HBOOT 1.45.0013(software version 1.55.531.3).
keep an eye out tho for news on another update that is supposed to make the official HTC unlocker tool work by the end of the month
I wanna get my hands on another to see if I can duplicate the 2 I unlocked
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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mrbmg said:
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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From what I've read, HTC is aware of the Unlocker not properly unlocking the MT4GS. All we can do now is wait since Revolutionary hasn't figured out a method to replace the 1.45.0013 HBOOT yet.
Limewirelord said:
... All we can do now is wait since Revolutionary hasn't figured out a method to replace the 1.45.0013 HBOOT yet.
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I disagree, we should be looking for a way to get current s-on devices either s-off (preferably) or at least unlocked.
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yogi2010 said:
there is, but in a sense that info is not 100% current.... those tools won't work if her phone is S-ON with HBOOT 1.45.0013(software version 1.55.531.3).
keep an eye out tho for news on another update that is supposed to make the official HTC unlocker tool work by the end of the month
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So I just got a warranty exchange and my HBOOT version is 1.44.007, so I should be good to do S-off correct?
BiggJurk said:
So I just got a warranty exchange and my HBOOT version is 1.44.007, so I should be good to do S-off correct?
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yep, you're good to get S-OFF.
jonnycat26 said:
It only voids your warranty if any damage results from anything you flash. Flash an OC kernel and burn up your phone, not their fault. Keyboard falls apart due to use, their fault.
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Doesn't matter if it's a hardware or software issue. If you mod your phone in any way, the warranty is void, unless you revert back to stock. Even if it's just a software mod, like a custom rom or kernel.
Lucky!
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU
gtmaster303 said:
Doesn't matter if it's a hardware or software issue. If you mod your phone in any way, the warranty is void, unless you revert back to stock. Even if it's just a software mod, like a custom rom or kernel.
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Incorrect. Read HTC's unlock disclaimer. It will only void the warranty if It's damage you caused by flashing something. Normal hardware issues are still covered as the original warranty would do.
And I got the phone... It came with the 1.55
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mrbmg said:
This is a great question seeing how my mt4gs will be here tomorrow lol.
I'm coming from an htc g2 and have been free from security for awhile! I really want an aosp rom (not a big fan of sense) so this should be interesting!
Been reading up for the last couple of days and the dev support seems a little lacking, but the g2 started to slow as well, though there were plenty of stable roms.
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I am actually in the same exact boat as you... Needed more power out my G2, so I upgraded to the 4G Slide
Mine will be coming in sometime next week, directly from HTC. Fairly excited. I had to send it in for warranty repair.
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And I got the phone... It came with the 1.55
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Will HTC change my phone version because I sent it in for warranty repair? Didn't even know what version it had before I sent it in, because the phone wouldn't power on.
You wouldn't think they would. But then again they might try and get it all the way up tp date before sending it back out. Good question.
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You wouldn't think they would. But then again they might try and get it all the way up tp date before sending it back out. Good question.
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They say that any devices that come to them will be shipped out again with the most recent software on them.
I recently had to send one of mine in, it came back as it was when I sent it out - but the current OTA is on pause so that may be why.
I think at this stage it would be a dice roll...
Blue6IX said:
They say that any devices that come to them will be shipped out again with the most recent software on them.
I recently had to send one of mine in, it came back as it was when I sent it out - but the current OTA is on pause so that may be why.
I think at this stage it would be a dice roll...
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Well it's better to send it in sooner, rather than later.
Besides, my device wouldn't turn on at all anyway, so I didn't really have a choice.
Hoping they don't update it though.
Is there any way I can call them and tell to not update it, if possible?
Hello,
i have a not rooted Sensation XE and very happy about it.
but....
After HTC offered a update, i installed it (and why not). But after that i can't get wifi and bluetooth working. In de the hardare information und wif and bluetooth at MAC adres it says 'not avaiable' for wifi and bluetooth.
Setting back to factory didn't help.
so, anybody has a clue what could have happened here, and what i an do about it?
P
I have heard of this happening before, unfortunately I'm not sure of the solution. You can try rooting the device and installation of custom rom. I'm rooted and don't have any Wi-Fi issues. Perhaps someone else has a better solution. You're options are limited being stock. Have you tried factory reset? I wish I could be of more help! Best wishes.
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realsis said:
I have heard of this happening before, unfortunately I'm not sure of the solution. You can try rooting the device and installation of custom rom. I'm rooted and don't have any Wi-Fi issues. Perhaps someone else has a better solution. You're options are limited being stock. Have you tried factory reset? I wish I could be of more help! Best wishes.
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Thanks for the support, and yes, i thought about rooting, but for the HTC sensation with 1.25 it's soo difficult to do!( imho) of course back to factory is tried and didn't help. Now i can hope for after sales support of the one i bought it from. But that will se sending it to them and wait for weeks, and then hope it's not too expensive.
Wifi error
klimpetje said:
Thanks for the support, and yes, i thought about rooting, but for the HTC sensation with 1.25 it's soo difficult to do!( imho) of course back to factory is tried and didn't help. Now i can hope for after sales support of the one i bought it from. But that will se sending it to them and wait for weeks, and then hope it's not too expensive.
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Try to root your phone, its not that difficult. Try KGS Utility, its a lot easier or JB tool. I have the WiFi issue since 4 months and nothing has led me to a solution. I have changed roms, kernels, RUU stock, bootloader locked and unlocked, s-off and s-on, wifix manager. None worked, all efforts in vain. Please go through all the posts in the sensation forum for optimal solution. Different people have different issues with wifi. Like you have after HTC update. For me by changing roms while s-off and rooted. Anyways hope this helps and hope u get ur wifi because trust me, I'm fed up and frustrated with this issue and cant afford to buy a new phone right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995690
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015526
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761387
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295
Hit thanks if I was of any help
Thanks, for that (and all those links. I did read several of them before). I did some custom rom intall on my good old HD2 back in the good old days 2 years ago, so i am not totally unfamiliar with custom roms. But the 1.2x version on my sensation XE and fiddling with wires in your phone and stuff doesn't sound appealing to me.
Maybe i first try to get it repaired over guarantee(sp?) from the supplier i bought it from. I can get into internet, i have 500 mb per month bandwidth in my contract and for 5 euros i have 500 mb more each month. But it still sucks. So maybe some day i can convince myself to take a wire and try get a rooted device.:silly:
OK.. Its good u have ur warranty.. Good luck:good:
Update: the guarantee was used and succesfull so! dec. 14th i gave my phone to the company, and jan 4th i got it back, repaired for free and all is working well!. So still stock, but after the guarantee period is over, i certainly will lok more into the rooting stuff. Thanks for the support.
rhishavphukan said:
Try to root your phone, its not that difficult. Try KGS Utility, its a lot easier or JB tool. I have the WiFi issue since 4 months and nothing has led me to a solution. I have changed roms, kernels, RUU stock, bootloader locked and unlocked, s-off and s-on, wifix manager. None worked, all efforts in vain. Please go through all the posts in the sensation forum for optimal solution. Different people have different issues with wifi. Like you have after HTC update. For me by changing roms while s-off and rooted. Anyways hope this helps and hope u get ur wifi because trust me, I'm fed up and frustrated with this issue and cant afford to buy a new phone right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995690
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015526
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761387
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295
Hit thanks if I was of any help
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I am having the same issue and I have fed up with it 2 months ago and started using mobile data
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
T
as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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tlazarus said:
If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.
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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...
tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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954wrecker said:
Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota
Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.
Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy
Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.
I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot
Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.