Hey there, fellow comrades!
I am planning to buy the Moto G from Cricket to use it on T-Mobile. I googled for hours, but could only find information to unlock the slick phone by buying unlock codes. I was wondering if there was any way to do this for... free? There are solutions around for most flagship phones, but are there any tools of similar nature for the Moto G?
Any tips would be helpful! Thanks!
Why not just buy an unlocked one can't cost that much more and its illegal to unlock a phone without carriers consent
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Durteedee said:
Why not just buy an unlocked one can't cost that much more and its illegal to unlock a phone without carriers consent
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Why not just answer his question?
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Why not just answer his question?
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Because the answer is you really can't and its Illegal, stupid law yes but still no legal in the in the united states where he wants to do this
Have you ever wondered why all unlocking sites on eBay are outside the us?
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Durteedee said:
Because the answer is you really can't and its Illegal, stupid law yes but still no legal in the in the united states where he wants to do this
Have you ever wondered why all unlocking sites on eBay are outside the us?
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Many things you see one XDA is technically and strictly "illegal," that doesn't make it illegal to spread the knowledge. As I said before, there are plethora of threads on XDA that show how to unlock other phones, so XDA is not strictly enforcing it.
If there is anyone more helpful, please help a fellow out. Thank you.
checkmateyou said:
Many things you see one XDA is technically and strictly "illegal," that doesn't make it illegal to spread the knowledge. As I said before, there are plethora of threads on XDA that show how to unlock other phones, so XDA is not strictly enforcing it.
If there is anyone more helpful, please help a fellow out. Thank you.
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Maybe you are not seeing that outside the us its legal but still costs a deal...I am being helpful I told you there is no way currently either by paying the fee or the requirements of the Carrier itself for unlocking.... What illegal things are you referring to anyway
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Durteedee said:
Maybe you are not seeing that outside the us its legal but still costs a deal...I am being helpful I told you there is no way currently either by paying the fee or the requirements of the Carrier itself for unlocking.... What illegal things are you referring to anyway
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Thank you for explaining this to me, and I did not mean to offend you. Do you happen to know if Cricket personally unlock their devices, like AT&T?
checkmateyou said:
Hey there, fellow comrades!
I am planning to buy the Moto G from Cricket to use it on T-Mobile. I googled for hours, but could only find information to unlock the slick phone by buying unlock codes. I was wondering if there was any way to do this for... free? There are solutions around for most flagship phones, but are there any tools of similar nature for the Moto G?
Any tips would be helpful! Thanks!
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Why not just buy the US GSM Moto G from Motorola? Motorola allows you to unlock it. Just go to here
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTQwMTY1OTE4Ni9zaWQvODVDZHdMVmw=
it has a list of all Motorola phones that can be unlocked. You can also buy the Google Edition Moto G for the same price and that one is easy as pie to unlock.
You mean bootloader unlock correct? To flash ROMs
If you mean carrier unlock then there is only one US Variant of the GSM Moto G and it works on all US GSM carriers no problem.
Unless carrier branded which is a thing
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He said he wants to use it on T-Mobile. All he has to do is buy the GSM Variant from Motorola. It works on all GSM carriers. Check the GSM Bands. There is only one GSM Moto G. T-Mobile's SIM will work fine no issues. No need to carrier unlock and Motorola allows bootloader unlocking (voiding the warrenty though). I'd go Google Play Edition though. Same price.
Or buy the new LTE version. $20 more but allows has a Micro SD Card slot.
Only the CDMA versions are carrier branded. That's why you can't buy the CDMA Moto G from Motorola's website.
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Checkmate, here are the frequencies/bands to look at
AT&T
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE
1900 MHz PCS GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850 MHz CLR 5 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 3G
1900 MHz PCS 2 UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s 3G
And
T-Mobile
850 MHz 5 GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G Roaming
850 MHz CLR 5 UMTS/HSPA+ 3G Roaming
1900 MHz 2 GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G In Service
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 UMTS/DC-HSPA+ 42Mbit/s 4G In Service
The Google Play Edition
Network
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
Global GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
@rebretz000: there are three GSM Moto G variants: XT1032 (Global with HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz bands), XT1034 ("US" with HSPA 850/AWS/1900 MHz bands) and the upcoming LTE variant (possibly more variants TBA, since the one on the US Motorola website listing lacks LTE bands for Europe or Asia)
The Cricket variant is cheaper by $30 and that is why I am buying it over the T-Mobile variant. I know, I know. $30 is not much, but I am buying this is a gift for someone. And that someone always break phones every 6 months. I have gave him Nexus phones, Galaxy phones, etc. He need a smartphone for his job, but nothing fancy is needed, and that is why I plan to buy him budget phones from now on.
So all in all, it is absolutely not possible to carrier unlock the Moto G yet?
You're going to have to ask the Cricket representative if the phone you are buying is a GSM or CDMA? The new Cricket is GSM but they still have their CDMA network running for the next year for their old subscribers. If it's CDMA then it will not work on T-Mobile and there is no way to carrier unlock it since the CDMA version doesn't have any GSM antennas inside.
Actually you can carrier unlock CDMA versions. Take Boost Mobile's to Verizon since Verizon's can't be bootloader unlocked but Boost's can.
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You're going to have to ask the Cricket representative if the phone you are buying is a GSM or CDMA? The new Cricket is GSM but they still have their CDMA network running for the next year for their old subscribers. If it's CDMA then it will not work on T-Mobile and there is no way to carrier unlock it since the CDMA version doesn't have any GSM antennas inside.
Actually you can carrier unlock CDMA versions. Take Boost Mobile's to Verizon since Verizon's can't be bootloader unlocked but Boost's can.
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I'm talking about carrier unlocking the Cricket's GSM variant to work on other GSM carriers.
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Hey guys just wondering if anybody has unlocked a One S (bought from a Canadian Carrier) and tested it out on Wind or Mobilicity.
I emailed HTC asking them about the bands supported by the phones and this is the reply I got.
Fido: HSPA 42 Mbps
Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Sasktel: HSPA 42 Mbps
Telus: HSPA 42 Mbps
Virgin: HSPA 42 Mbps
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Asked them if the other phones had the same bands
I do apologise for the misunderstanding, but the bands would be the same for the One S on each network.
That being said, I will suggest to contact Wind Mobile to verify if a unlocked phone will work to its fullest potential or not. The reason I mention this, is that some providers put a limit on the connection, on an unlocked phone.
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So I was just wondering if anybody has tested this out and knows if it works on Wind or Mobilicity by just unlocking it or if the AWS bands are "locked" just like the Galaxy Note.
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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:s ugh I was hoping that we did. How sure are you that the AWS bands aren't "hidden" like on the galaxy note though?
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
motionUS said:
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
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Are you sure Penta Band ONE S exist in Canada/USA ? read post #3
As for the official HTC site says. HSPA/WCDMA:Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
BUT Your links would make sense according to the note Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location.
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
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If you are from Toronto. Pacific Mall can sell them for ~$550 - $600 unlocked. but i dont know rather if its dual,tri or quad band.
got my sexy Sensation z710a from there
joshnichols189 said:
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
vintr said:
I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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Sorry didn't know that, went to the HTC UK site and found all the major carriers that had the One S and they were all black. Why does it have to be so difficult for companies to get their specs straight...
Got some useful info courtesy of 'HC - NO "i"' on HowardForums
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...us-supports-2100-band?p=14822292#post14822292
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
huy397 said:
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
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So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
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That's very interesting...
vintr said:
So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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Well, if nobody confirm it before that I cut my Vidéotron SIM (Québec's AWS carrier) to a MicroSIM and unlock my phone, I'll tell ya.
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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Awesome! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Now I can safely go out and buy this with no worries
Please be aware that you will buy an unsupported phone, unlock the bootloader to root the phone, most probably voiding your warranty in the process (there's talk that the root-only (and not requiring unlocked bootloader) method for the NA One X works on the One S) then Sim-unlock the phone (by a paid code or the new hack), find the APNs for your carrier...
... And hope that all works...
I don't want to scare you but make sure you fully understand all risks. Specially if you buy the phone outright and don't have an account on that carrier...
Despite the fact that I can't test data (as it should be locked in my account) here is a shot telling that I'm on 3G UTMS (which can't be done with this SIM on a non-AWS phone like my iPhone).
I got one from Virginmobile had it unlocked it and am now using it on Mobilicity.
The Rep at the store assured me it wont work but i tried it and it did.
Reason for buying from there was because it was on sale.
Hello,
I want to purchase Motorola RAZR HD locked to Verizon.
I live in Israel and I don't know if I will can to unlock it to use it in Israel.
I read the threads in the forum but I didn't found answers.
Please help me so I know whether to buy, I do not want to buy and get stuck with a device that will don't work for me in Israel.
Israel frequencies are:
GSM: 900MHz, 1800MHz
UMTS, HSDPA, WCDMA: 850, 900, 2100
If it's help to know.
I use SIM card.
Thank you very much and hope I'll can!
Roei.
Why not select this one - "DROID RAZR HD BY MOTOROLA w/o plan "?
roimos said:
Hello,
I want to purchase Motorola RAZR HD locked to Verizon.
I live in Israel and I don't know if I will can to unlock it to use it in Israel.
I read the threads in the forum but I didn't found answers.
Please help me so I know whether to buy, I do not want to buy and get stuck with a device that will don't work for me in Israel.
Israel frequencies are:
GSM: 900MHz, 1800MHz
UMTS, HSDPA, WCDMA: 850, 900, 2100
If it's help to know.
I use SIM card.
Thank you very much and hope I'll can!
Roei.
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Because I don't want to buy a new one, it is expensive to me....
I want to purchase a used one (new condition) from eBay.
There are countless threads on this. The phone is unlocked, but you probably wont be able to pick up LTE because it doesn't have many LTE signal bands -- the ones that it has are pretty specific to VZW.
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There are countless threads on this. The phone is unlocked, but you probably wont be able to pick up LTE because it doesn't have many LTE signal bands -- the ones that it has are pretty specific to VZW.
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But Israel is not at all supported by LTE, it does not exist here (3.5G max here).
Then I can use it in Israel?
I need a definitive answer.
Thank you!
roimos said:
But Israel is not at all supported by LTE, it does not exist here (3.5G max here).
Then I can use it in Israel?
I need a definitive answer.
Thank you!
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Shalom!
You should try to get the Rogers or Fido versions of the XT925 (a lot are listed on eBay). You might also be able to find the European versions. These are all gsm. If I remember correctly, most Israeli cell companies are no longer offering CDMA.
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The Verizon version works on both CDMA and GSM and will work globally. The XT925 is the same as the 926 excluding the LTE signal bands which are different.
danifunker said:
Shalom!
You should try to get the Rogers or Fido versions of the XT925 (a lot are listed on eBay). You might also be able to find the European versions. These are all gsm. If I remember correctly, most Israeli cell companies are no longer offering CDMA.
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I found: Unlocked Motorola RAZR HD XT925 16GB Black LTE Brand new - Fido GSM - BNIB
This is good for me?
roimos said:
I found: Unlocked Motorola RAZR HD XT925 16GB Black LTE Brand new - Fido GSM - BNIB
This is good for me?
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That should be great!
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Can someone please accelerate my decision making by letting me know if the RAZR HD/MAXX HD can:
1) Be fully unlocked from the carrier (Verizon) for use on any compatible network
2) Can use a SIM card when traveling abroad (to purchase local SIMs)
3) Can be fully rooted
Wikipedia lists the phone as:
CDMA EV-DO rev A; 800, 1900MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE 700 MHz Class 13
HSDPA+ (4G) 21.1 Mbit/s
HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s
I also see information that it uses a SIM...but I am not sure if there are different versions of the phone for different carriers/countries, or if my Verizon phone will be able to do all this.
Please advise...thanks!
TraderJack said:
Can someone please accelerate my decision making by letting me know if the RAZR HD/MAXX HD can:
1) Be fully unlocked from the carrier (Verizon) for use on any compatible network
2) Can use a SIM card when traveling abroad (to purchase local SIMs)
3) Can be fully rooted
Wikipedia lists the phone as:
CDMA EV-DO rev A; 800, 1900MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE 700 MHz Class 13
HSDPA+ (4G) 21.1 Mbit/s
HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s
I also see information that it uses a SIM...but I am not sure if there are different versions of the phone for different carriers/countries, or if my Verizon phone will be able to do all this.
Please advise...thanks!
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Well, will let you know..
1. Verizon will not carrier unlock the phone for use here in the states,
2. I have seen people use it abroad but you have to set that up with Verizon.
3. It can be fully rooted and unlocked bootloader.
Some of 1 and 2 may be accomplished in other ways but not officially by verizon, at least not without paying
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Well, will let you know..
1. Verizon will not carrier unlock the phone for use here in the states,
2. I have seen people use it abroad but you have to set that up with Verizon.
3. It can be fully rooted and unlocked bootloader.
Some of 1 and 2 may be accomplished in other ways but not officially by verizon, at least not without paying
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Thanks...I'm looking for end result here... Can I get Verizon, or a 3rd party to unlock this phone for use with foreign SIM cards?
Can I do it myself (relatively painlessly) with available toolsets?
You can simply buy NOT a Droid Razr HD, but a Razr HD.
This one have no Verizon Branding, also have 4G, the model number is XT925.
This version shipping directly from motorola.
And you can root, unlock bootloader for 5 minutes with win/mac.
One more But - you have to check the frequency of Lte in XT925 version.
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Thanks...I'm hoping to be able to buy from a US carrier so I can get the lower rates. Does anyone know which phones on which carriers will allow me to unlock (with a little hacking or a small amount of money for a code) so that I can use them with a foreign SIM?
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Thanks...I'm hoping to be able to buy from a US carrier so I can get the lower rates. Does anyone know which phones on which carriers will allow me to unlock (with a little hacking or a small amount of money for a code) so that I can use them with a foreign SIM?
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Bro, as I know you're able to use any version of the razr HD with a foreign sim(in case if it is NOT fully locked) ! You can buy it directly from Verizon. But in USA you will have to use only Verizon. SIM Lock on this device - is only lock on use the phone in US with another carrier (possible to use in US only with Verizon Wireless). Abroad US you can use any SIM, any carrier in any country. Im considering xt926
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Other way, I saw claro australia (or Canada) locked phones on ebay. Unlock code is about 10$
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ANtiHazarD said:
Bro, as I know you're able to use any version of the razr HD with a foreign sim(in case if it is NOT fully locked) ! You can buy it directly from Verizon. But in USA you will have to use only Verizon. SIM Lock on this device - is only lock on use the phone in US with another carrier (possible to use in US only with Verizon Wireless). Abroad US you can use any SIM, any carrier in any country. Im considering xt926
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Other way, I saw claro australia (or Canada) locked phones on ebay. Unlock code is about 10$
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Thanks ANit - this seems to be exactly what I am now seeing based on my research and talks with VZW.
It does appear though that this procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
will unlock the device even within the US!
Seriously dude - it's an amazing phone.
It's rock solid by itself, battery life is stellar and camera is good, nowhere near as bad as some would suggest at least.
And as a side note since I cant comment in there yet, I've just installed the AOKP Lunchlies and its perhaps the most stable great custom ROM I've seen in my three or so years on the scene (mainly experienced with the Galaxy Ace, Xperia and now Razr HD). Amazing work guys.
So I have been doing more research and am still concerned about one thing:
While is seems pretty certain that we are saying the phone is unlocked for the GSM bands outside the country...and LTE really is irrelevant because no one else uses the same band...what about CDMA countries like Japan or Israel?
Is the only solution when using this phone in another CDMA country to use Verizon's roaming?
TraderJack said:
So I have been doing more research and am still concerned about one thing:
While is seems pretty certain that we are saying the phone is unlocked for the GSM bands outside the country...and LTE really is irrelevant because no one else uses the same band...what about CDMA countries like Japan or Israel?
Is the only solution when using this phone in another CDMA country to use Verizon's roaming?
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The only recent VZW phone to work on other US carriers is the Bionic. Before that I can only recall the HTC Titan as doing that but maybe the Incredible 2 as well. However, VZW call quality and pricing has become so competitive that being locked to VZW in the US is not a bad thing. As you seem to have figured out, the RHD is sim unlocked for foreign countries so you can use foreign micro sims easily. You would likely not be able to activate the phone on another CDMA carrier but you should be able roam there with VZW service. I have only roamed in Mexico on CDMA. All the other roaming in Indonesia, Taiwan, EU and caribbean I have done was on GSM. The RHD does very well roaming. I have chosen to use VZW services (Vodafone) so I can keep my number. I just buy a 100MB data package for $25 which is plenty for email. Not doing that will cost $20/MB and can run into the thousands of dollars. Call costs aren't significantly different to warrant a sim swap on short trips but I have used international foreign sims and programmed apns.
BTW Qualcomm will be releasing a universal LTE chip that will work on all LTE bands in the world.
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
I'm almost a 100% sure this wont work but try installing a USA stock rom and a USA stock kernel. But I think the problem is with Sim card though.
Thanks for the help man. I am currently on T-Mobile planning to switch to at and t soon. You think that it'll at least pick up 3g after that?
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Dear Akonsand, finally do you know if I can use the QPST method to unlock the bands of the Moto G3 (XT1541)?
I have the same problem that you...
I'm bumping this just in case there are some news on the subject.
I'm stuck on EDGE with an XT1541 in Argentina and i'm not really sure of what to do... Is there some sub-forum with phone exchanges around the world?
Maybe someone's interested on a trade!
There were some successful attempts at unlocking the bands on the Moto E 2015, but for now there's no hope for the G...
How do you guys see it? Do we have any chance? Should we wait?
Thanks everybody!
Very interested as I have a xt1550 but am on o2 UK and would like to enable lte for this carrier
akonsand said:
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
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I am a little confused here... Your Indian model phone should get 3G in the US, but not LTE (I hate it when people say "4G", technically speaking even LTE isn't 4G but that is for another thread), in fact, assuming you have the correct SIM and APN settings, your model should get HSPA+ speeds. LTE is out though... let me explain
3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in the US is 850Mhz and 1900Mhz, in India it is 800Mhz and 1800Mhz, the Moto G supports all 4 of these bands, so it should work in the US just fine.
In the US, several bands are used for LTE such as 2, 4, 5, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, and 41 (granted some bands are very limited or carrier specific), but in India LTE use is exclusively Band 40 by both Aircel and Airtel, and the LTE setup in the Moto G is specific for those countries and does not inter-operate.
So, long story short, with a GSM US carrier SIM and correct APN setup, you should get 3G HSPA+ data connections with no issues on your Indian Moto G, which is probably good enough for most uses and can exceed 8mbps down speeds in many areas.
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I am a little confused here... Your Indian model phone should get 3G in the US, but not LTE (I hate it when people say "4G", technically speaking even LTE isn't 4G but that is for another thread), in fact, assuming you have the correct SIM and APN settings, your model should get HSPA+ speeds. LTE is out though... let me explain
3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in the US is 850Mhz and 1900Mhz, in India it is 800Mhz and 1800Mhz, the Moto G supports all 4 of these bands, so it should work in the US just fine.
In the US, several bands are used for LTE such as 2, 4, 5, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, and 41 (granted some bands are very limited or carrier specific), but in India LTE use is exclusively Band 40 by both Aircel and Airtel, and the LTE setup in the Moto G is specific for those countries and does not inter-operate.
So, long story short, with a GSM US carrier SIM and correct APN setup, you should get 3G HSPA+ data connections with no issues on your Indian Moto G, which is probably good enough for most uses and can exceed 8mbps down speeds in many areas.
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Hey thanks for the reply man.
I think even HSPA or HSPA+ might not work for me on this phone. I am using a T Mobile family plan here, and comparing th bands given on the website:
"4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)"
and the bands my phone supports(from the motorola website)
"Moto G (XT1550)
LTE (1, 3, 7, 8, 28,40) UMTS/HSPA+ (900, 2100, 850 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)"
It seems that the uplink is unsupported by my phone and so the phone is unable to use the HSPA/HSPA+ bands. I think the only way to use it is to unlock the 1700 MHz band on my phone.
(BTW Tmobile quotes HSPA+ as 4G and thats hilarious lol)
akonsand said:
Hey thanks for the reply man.
I think even HSPA or HSPA+ might not work for me on this phone. I am using a T Mobile family plan here, and comparing th bands given on the website:
"4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)"
and the bands my phone supports(from the motorola website)
"Moto G (XT1550)
LTE (1, 3, 7, 8, 28,40) UMTS/HSPA+ (900, 2100, 850 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)"
It seems that the uplink is unsupported by my phone and so the phone is unable to use the HSPA/HSPA+ bands. I think the only way to use it is to unlock the 1700 MHz band on my phone.
(BTW Tmobile quotes HSPA+ as 4G and thats hilarious lol)
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Most us carriers say HSPA+ is 4G...
Tmobile is great in many regards, except if you have an international phone like the Moto G and they do not have the correct bands implemented in your area, which it appears they do not... Honestly, consider moving to AT&T Wireless or an AT&T based MVNO like Cricket, Straight Talk AT&T, or Go Phone, it might cost a little more but you could get HSPA+ with no issues. 850Mhz is AT&T's primary HSPA/HSPA+ frequency, and 1900Mhz is added to congested areas, but this varies by area... before going all in I suggest trying a SIM from a buddy or go the AT&T (corporate) store and ask to test a SIM just to be sure. But regardless you should get UMTS/GSM speeds on AT&T, which is way better than Edge, averaging anywhere from 500kbps-2mbps.
If TMo is essential or you can't change for whatever reason or live without HSPA+/LTE, consider getting a Blu phone or Moto E locally, they are relatively inexpensive (under $150) and are not amazing but will probably do the job.
acejavelin said:
Most us carriers say HSPA+ is 4G...
Tmobile is great in many regards, except if you have an international phone like the Moto G and they do not have the correct bands implemented in your area, which it appears they do not... Honestly, consider moving to AT&T Wireless or an AT&T based MVNO like Cricket, Straight Talk AT&T, or Go Phone, it might cost a little more but you could get HSPA+ with no issues. 850Mhz is AT&T's primary HSPA/HSPA+ frequency, and 1900Mhz is added to congested areas, but this varies by area... before going all in I suggest trying a SIM from a buddy or go the AT&T (corporate) store and ask to test a SIM just to be sure. But regardless you should get UMTS/GSM speeds on AT&T, which is way better than Edge, averaging anywhere from 500kbps-2mbps.
If TMo is essential or you can't change for whatever reason or live without HSPA+/LTE, consider getting a Blu phone or Moto E locally, they are relatively inexpensive (under $150) and are not amazing but will probably do the job.
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Cool Alright. I actually had a chance to join AT & T family plan but didn't join it because T-mobile was giving more data :facepalm:
Ill see if i can switch to an AT & T network.
Thanks for your help one again man!
akonsand said:
Cool Alright. I actually had a chance to join AT & T family plan but didn't join it because T-mobile was giving more data :facepalm:
Ill see if i can switch to an AT & T network.
Thanks for your help one again man!
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Try to test it first, just to be sure.
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akonsand said:
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
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so far i know these are hardware specs and cannot be unlocked or changed.i mean to say moto g 2015 has different variants based upon hardware specs of their band support
If you started using att with your xt1550 ..how is it? Do you get 3g or lte?
I didn't start using it. Currently stuck with a group plan.. But I tried using a friends sim card.. 3g does work well with at n t.
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Thanks for letting me know... I wish there was a way to get 'lte' ...someone has to come up with a way to unlock the bands lol. Thanks
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
KentianAylomen said:
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
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Same here...I am trying qpst also but rf.nv manager keeps getting an error for me. Maybe we can work together on this. I also can't figure out the hidden menu..unless its *#*#4636#*#*
KentianAylomen said:
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
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hello i have the same problem with my moto g, i like to know if somebody have a solution (lo compre en andorra y aca en argentina no funciona, queria saber si aderribo o kentianAylomen lo habian resuelto mi correo es [email protected])
francoferrer said:
hello i have the same problem with my moto g, i like to know if somebody have a solution (lo compre en andorra y aca en argentina no funciona, queria saber si aderribo o kentianAylomen lo habian resuelto mi correo es [email protected])
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Hey , I'm from argentina too and have the same problem. Could someone fix it? (hablemos en castellano)
The same problem with rf.nv manager. It always stops when I want to setting the COM. I edited some things of the program... Didn't work.
Hi... Working with a brand new Moto G XT1548. Stock Rom stock everything.
Simple question is this, how do I get this sim Unlocked to accept any sim card. Right now its apparently a virgin mobile phone and says (nationwide sprint 4g lte network) on the box; which I assume is how it would work in the states. But I am not in the states.
Can anyone help me out here? Or just point me in the right direction.
Lorddeff07 said:
Hi... Working with a brand new Moto G XT1548. Stock Rom stock everything.
Simple question is this, how do I get this sim Unlocked to accept any sim card. Right now its apparently a virgin mobile phone and says (nationwide sprint 4g lte network) on the box; which I assume is how it would work in the states. But I am not in the states.
Can anyone help me out here? Or just point me in the right direction.
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Ok Virgin Mobile/Sprint is CDMA, the sim is for 4g LTE so this not a GSM phone. I suppose you could try contacting carrier you want to use and see if they can switch it for you, but I doubt it's possible/worth hassle.
All Moto G 2015's support basic GSM service, but have limited bands for HSPA and LTE, the XT1548 has very limited...
CDMA: 800, 850, 1900 Mhz
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz
UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 1700, 1900 Mhz
LTE: B2 (1900), B4 (1700), B5 (850), B12 (700), B17 (700), B25 (1900), B26 (850), LTE-TDD: B41 (2500)
To unlock the SIM you have to contact Virgin Mobile or buy a code from an unlock service online.
Lorddeff07 said:
Hi... Working with a brand new Moto G XT1548. Stock Rom stock everything.
Simple question is this, how do I get this sim Unlocked to accept any sim card. Right now its apparently a virgin mobile phone and says (nationwide sprint 4g lte network) on the box; which I assume is how it would work in the states. But I am not in the states.
Can anyone help me out here? Or just point me in the right direction.
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Have you had any success in using it in Nigeria here? I'm expecting the same phone soon and I have some confidence it could work since it supports GSM bands. However, if you've been able to use it I could use some help in how you did it. If not yet successful, just hang on, I'll figure it out when mine arrives. I helped get the Moto X Sprint unlocked here on XDA.
ezeuba said:
Have you had any success in using it in Nigeria here? I'm expecting the same phone soon and I have some confidence it could work since it supports GSM bands. However, if you've been able to use it I could use some help in how you did it. If not yet successful, just hang on, I'll figure it out when mine arrives. I helped get the Moto X Sprint unlocked here on XDA.
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You will get 2G GSM service only (GSM900, GSM1800)... at best... No 3G, WCDMA/HSPA, or LTE. The Sprint versions are "tuned" to Sprint service, and not to global or other regions, and there is no unlock for the other bands. The Sprint Moto G 2015 is probably the worst possible you could get, unless you have Sprint service.
acejavelin said:
You will get 2G GSM service only (GSM900, GSM1800)... at best... No 3G, WCDMA/HSPA, or LTE. The Sprint versions are "tuned" to Sprint service, and not to global or other regions, and there is no unlock for the other bands. The Sprint Moto G 2015 is probably the worst possible you could get, unless you have Sprint service.
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I see... Just like the Verizon Moto E 2015, which when unlocked could only get 2G service and data... Well, it's better than not working at all overseas... Thanks.
ezeuba said:
I see... Just like the Verizon Moto E 2015, which when unlocked could only get 2G service and data... Well, it's better than not working at all overseas... Thanks.
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Maybe... The Sprint version is just just limited in hardware to very specific bands and frequencies for Sprints network and basic GSM service for roaming needs.
Good luck.