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[Q] Unlocked One S from Canada (bands)

Hey guys just wondering if anybody has unlocked a One S (bought from a Canadian Carrier) and tested it out on Wind or Mobilicity.
I emailed HTC asking them about the bands supported by the phones and this is the reply I got.
Fido: HSPA 42 Mbps
Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Sasktel: HSPA 42 Mbps
Telus: HSPA 42 Mbps
Virgin: HSPA 42 Mbps
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Asked them if the other phones had the same bands
I do apologise for the misunderstanding, but the bands would be the same for the One S on each network.
That being said, I will suggest to contact Wind Mobile to verify if a unlocked phone will work to its fullest potential or not. The reason I mention this, is that some providers put a limit on the connection, on an unlocked phone.
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So I was just wondering if anybody has tested this out and knows if it works on Wind or Mobilicity by just unlocking it or if the AWS bands are "locked" just like the Galaxy Note.

Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone

NienorGT said:
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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:s ugh I was hoping that we did. How sure are you that the AWS bands aren't "hidden" like on the galaxy note though?

Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/

motionUS said:
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
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Are you sure Penta Band ONE S exist in Canada/USA ? read post #3
As for the official HTC site says. HSPA/WCDMA:Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
BUT Your links would make sense according to the note Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location.

I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.

huy397 said:
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.

The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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vintr said:
The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
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If you are from Toronto. Pacific Mall can sell them for ~$550 - $600 unlocked. but i dont know rather if its dual,tri or quad band.
got my sexy Sensation z710a from there

joshnichols189 said:
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.

vintr said:
I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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joshnichols189 said:
You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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Sorry didn't know that, went to the HTC UK site and found all the major carriers that had the One S and they were all black. Why does it have to be so difficult for companies to get their specs straight...

Got some useful info courtesy of 'HC - NO "i"' on HowardForums
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...us-supports-2100-band?p=14822292#post14822292
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)

I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.

huy397 said:
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
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So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note

vintr said:
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
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That's very interesting...
vintr said:
So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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Well, if nobody confirm it before that I cut my Vidéotron SIM (Québec's AWS carrier) to a MicroSIM and unlock my phone, I'll tell ya.
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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NienorGT said:
With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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Awesome! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Now I can safely go out and buy this with no worries

Please be aware that you will buy an unsupported phone, unlock the bootloader to root the phone, most probably voiding your warranty in the process (there's talk that the root-only (and not requiring unlocked bootloader) method for the NA One X works on the One S) then Sim-unlock the phone (by a paid code or the new hack), find the APNs for your carrier...
... And hope that all works...
I don't want to scare you but make sure you fully understand all risks. Specially if you buy the phone outright and don't have an account on that carrier...
Despite the fact that I can't test data (as it should be locked in my account) here is a shot telling that I'm on 3G UTMS (which can't be done with this SIM on a non-AWS phone like my iPhone).

I got one from Virginmobile had it unlocked it and am now using it on Mobilicity.
The Rep at the store assured me it wont work but i tried it and it did.
Reason for buying from there was because it was on sale.

Able to use an unlocked AT&T HTC One X internationally and get 3G?

I'm looking to get an unlocked HTC One X (AT&T) to use overseas where the 3G band is 2100. I read in the Engadget review that AWS is disabled out of the box?
What is AWS exactly? And does it affect the 2100 3G band that I need?
EDIT: So my exact question is, can I use an unlocked ATT HOX to get at least a 3G data connection where the band required is ONLY 2100 (read: NOT 1700/2100 like T-Mobile)? Like the UK and Taiwan as in this chart.
It'd be kinda ironic if it didn't work in Taiwan lol

AWS is a band of 3/4g used by T-Mobile, and other carriers. at&t does not use this band, nor does rogers. But most foreign carriers do.
From my understanding once we have s-off you can change this to use that band.
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kleeman7 said:
AWS is a band of 3/4g used by T-Mobile, and other carriers. at&t does not use this band, nor does rogers. But most foreign carriers do.
From my understanding once we have s-off you can change this to use that band.
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Thanks for the info. Do you know which bands specifically are AWS? And does this mean unlocking the phone doesn't give me access to them? You wouldn't per chance know the thread that talks about the unlock for AWS would you? I can't seem to find it...

So it seems that AWS is synonymous with W-CDMA 1700 (UMTS Band IV)? And/or from 1710 to 1755 MHz for uplink, and from 2110 to 2155 MHz for downlink?
I got that from Wikipedia. So it would appear that if I need the 2100 band internationally, I'd be okay using an unlocked AT&T HTC One X. Can anybody verify this?
Sorry, I'm not too knowledgeable about what AWS is exactly... Except that T-Mobile USA uses the 1700 band and that's part of it which is why the ATT HOX doesn't get T-Mobile USA 3G.

You will get signal internationally, but it may not be 3g is all. But the 2100 band is at&t capable.
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kleeman7 said:
You will get signal internationally, but it may not be 3g is all. But the 2100 band is at&t capable.
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Yeah, I'm not doubting the ability to get signal for talk/text, I want to try to get at least 3G. What's a smartphone without mobile data, right?
In any case, I just tried looking it up and it seems that AT&T uses 850 and 1900?
So it would appear that AWS generally refers to the pairing of 1700/2100. Does that mean AWS is ONLY the band pair and does NOT refer to using only 2100?

Even in UMTS 2100, upload will be in 19xx range. I'm sure HOX will work in 2100 UMTS band.

funnce said:
So it would appear that AWS generally refers to the pairing of 1700/2100. Does that mean AWS is ONLY the band pair and does NOT refer to using only 2100?
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Correct, AWS just refers to the split band (1700/2100) only, where one band is used for download, the other for upload (can never remember which is which). AWS is also known as Band IV. Its not to be confused with the 2100 MHz band (Band I) used in Europe and many other parts of the world for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS-FDD
The phone should work fine while traveling, including 3G. But I will try to confirm next week, as I am traveling to Europe. This will be my first trip abroad with the One X. I'll be roaming on AT&T; instead of SIM unlocked and running a local SIM. But roaming on AT&T works pretty similar, using the local carriers (the only real difference is in the billing). So I can at least confirm that part works.
IN the past I've traveled internationally with several AT&T phones with the 2100 MHz band, so I don't expect any problems.
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kleeman7 said:
AWS is a band of 3/4g used by T-Mobile, and other carriers. at&t does not use this band, nor does rogers. But most foreign carriers do.
From my understanding once we have s-off you can change this to use that band.
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The part about most foreign carriers using AWS is false, as I noted above. AWS is pretty much an anomaly, only used by T-Mobile, and carriers in Canada and Venezuela. You are confusing Band I with Band IV.
Just want to make sure that this is clear, for anyone else reading this thread, to avoid misunderstanding.
Also, the part about enabling AWS once we have S-Off is just speculation. I would not take if for granted. Mostly just wishful thinking by those on T-Mobile. I would not take it as fact.

Thanks for the answers! Do let me know how 3G works on your trip though

I messaged HTC and this is an excerpt from the reply they sent me:
To put it very simply, the AT&T One X uses a cellular radio that does not have or use the 2100 frequency. With this being the case, the situation is actually a hardware limitation, not a lack of software or a software disablement of a hardware functionality. This, of course, means that you wouldn't get 3G in Taiwan with an unlocked AT&T One X. You can still get 2G/EDGE with the proper data network settings though. I can definitely appreciate the irony of the situation though, our phones are manufactured in Taiwan after all!
That being said, I messaged them back and asked why 2100 was listed as supported on their official site.

Reply:
Considering that AWS is listed as an LTE technology in those specifications when it's not an LTE tech tells me that the specifications are listed incorrectly. I've gone ahead and forwarded this for review and correction though. Even if the specifications are correct, because the device is configured for AT&T's 3G network, which uses the 850 and 1900 frequencies, it's still very likely that you still would not get 3G service.
So, the rep doesn't know is all I'm getting from this email. "Very likely" doesn't sound definitive to me.

I can confirm that at&t hox is working fine in umts aka 3g mode in 2100Mhz. Just today i received one, sim unlocked it and tested
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redpoint73 said:
The phone should work fine while traveling, including 3G. But I will try to confirm next week, as I am traveling to Europe. This will be my first trip abroad with the One X. I'll be roaming on AT&T; instead of SIM unlocked and running a local SIM. But roaming on AT&T works pretty similar, using the local carriers (the only real difference is in the billing). So I can at least confirm that part works.
IN the past I've traveled internationally with several AT&T phones with the 2100 MHz band, so I don't expect any problems.
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Sorry for the late update. But I can verify that 3G on the AT&T version of the One X works just fine in Germany, which uses 2100 MHz for 3G.
I didn't use data a whole lot, but a little browsing, Google Maps, etc., all of which seemed speedy. I also ran Speedtest while in Germany, and got 5.5 Mbps down, 1.3 Mbps up, which I think is safe to say 3G and not EDGE. Also had the "4G" icon in the notification bar, since our phone displays that for HSPA.
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funnce said:
I messaged HTC and this is an excerpt from the reply they sent me:
To put it very simply, the AT&T One X uses a cellular radio that does not have or use the 2100 frequency. With this being the case, the situation is actually a hardware limitation, not a lack of software or a software disablement of a hardware functionality. This, of course, means that you wouldn't get 3G in Taiwan with an unlocked AT&T One X. You can still get 2G/EDGE with the proper data network settings though. I can definitely appreciate the irony of the situation though, our phones are manufactured in Taiwan after all!
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That rep is clearly clueless, as what I mentioned above proves he is incorrect.

redpoint73 said:
Sorry for the late update. But I can verify that 3G on the AT&T version of the One X works just fine in Germany, which uses 2100 MHz for 3G.
I didn't use data a whole lot, but a little browsing, Google Maps, etc., all of which seemed speedy. I also ran Speedtest while in Germany, and got 5.5 Mbps down, 1.3 Mbps up, which I think is safe to say 3G and not EDGE. Also had the "4G" icon in the notification bar, since our phone displays that for HSPA.
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That rep is clearly clueless, as what I mentioned above proves he is incorrect.
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I am in China, and it's the same 2100 MHz for 3G, I can sometimes connect to the HSPA but it's not stable and keep have notification 'Restricted Access Changed. Data Service is blocked'. Although I can use internet browser and some apps like Google Map. But some apps keep prompted ' network unavailable' like Weibo, I found the problematic apps are clients of news website. I wonder if they use some protocol which is not support or blocked?

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redpoint73 said:
Sorry for the late update. But I can verify that 3G on the AT&T version of the One X works just fine in Germany, which uses 2100 MHz for 3G.
I didn't use data a whole lot, but a little browsing, Google Maps, etc., all of which seemed speedy. I also ran Speedtest while in Germany, and got 5.5 Mbps down, 1.3 Mbps up, which I think is safe to say 3G and not EDGE. Also had the "4G" icon in the notification bar, since our phone displays that for HSPA.
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That rep is clearly clueless, as what I mentioned above proves he is incorrect.
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This is great news for me. I will receive an HOX at&t and I'm in Europe so is great that the 3g is working here.

[Q] Droid Razr Maxx HD Canada

I was wondering if the Droid Razr Maxx HD for Verizon will work in Canada or do we have to wait for them to release a GSM/International model?

Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.

I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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@rajeshr
With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...

overlord727 said:
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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@rajeshr
With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
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You could find a Canadian to pick up one for you and have it shipped over. It would put you back about $700 for a brand new one shipped to you ($600 + $72(tax in BC) + $25 (shipping) + $7(unlock)).
I'm not sure of VZW's LTE phone unlock status, but I think you'd only be able to get GSM network (EDGE) on this phone on AT&T.

rajeshr said:
Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
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The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.

pfak said:
The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
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My mistake! You are absolutely correct. I should read a bit more before I respond!
Here are the supported bands:
Droid Razr HD
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Rogers Razr HD LTE
LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps

does this phone could get unlocked to work in mexico? right now mexico dont support LTE/4g but at the same time Telcel, Movistar and Iusacell got the Galaxy S3, and this one supports 4g/lte, but i dont know if i can get one hd from verizon to get it work here on mexico, as far as i know, mexico works with gsm phones right? and this one is cdma

Pretty expensive! I think I might just wait to see if someone with a VZW one can prove if it works on a GSM carrier... Or wait for the next nexus...

Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.

So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?

mcsingh said:
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
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Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.

rajeshr said:
Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
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Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?

@OP wait a month.I expect either Telus of Bell to pick up the MAXX version for the holidays. I couldn't wait nor wanted the MAXX, but my bet is on Bell picking up the MAXX.

hex_hack said:
Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.

rajeshr said:
No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.

Motorola razr droid maxx hd
I want to buy a phone and use Verizone in another country is not USA, how to get the unlock code and when it might occur? It makes sense to buy the phone and wait? The phone will work with GSM without code unlock????

hex_hack said:
Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."

koala72 said:
For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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It would be unlocking it with a subsidy code or something like cellunlocking.net right? Im thinking to buy the razr maxx hd with verizon and use it here in mexico but first i need to be sure that it would work
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Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.

versd said:
Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
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If theres not compability with 4g it would be on 3g/H?
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Bad ESN Verizon One hd in Canada?

LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?

mikeinaus said:
LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?
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You can unlock it for gsm carriers in the us and its already unlocked for international use. I know with att u get h+ witch is good enough for me on straight talk. I average about 6mps.

Got the phone on the weekend. It works fine on bell/ virgin except I can't connect to lte. Does anyone know of it's possible to unlock lte? According to gsm area the phone should be compatible with lte 700mhz which is what bell uses... Will that radio com thing you guys use to unlock it for us carriers help?

Pre-Order Question

I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy

1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Is it possible to use an Indian credit card to place an order and ship to USA address? Do they still do the verification and bill only US cards?

pkinetics said:
1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Appreciate all the info @pkinetics
My only concern is what the was said in the article. The phone will not have CDMA, so those spots in a building have happened to me oh so much, where I loose LTE and go to 3g. I can assume with this phone that would mean I would have no service. I really applaud HTC for making a move so bold. There are so many unlocked phones world wide for GSM that are really affordable. I just purchased a used phone to hold me out until I decided if I wanted a Nexus 5x or not, but I think that I am gonna go with this phone. I know that I may loose service sometimes, but usually when I am in a building I am on wifi and I use hangouts for all of my calls and sms.
Thanks again for the links

neo4uo said:
I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy
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I don't think they're releasing a DevEd. The unlocked version is sim unlocked only I believe.

Nope, in the live stream they said the phone will not lose its warranty with opened bootloader and unlocked condition. And you can install custom roms without losing it too.
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Does anyone know if you can use the unlocked / free US version in Europe / Germany completely without any restriction?
Especially with all frequencies and bands?

Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...

swinokur said:
Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...
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If things go as planned, CDMA on Verizon will be no longer...by end of 2016.
They intend to have their entire CDMA market covered with LTE by that time and will be phasing out legacy CDMA altogether.
VoLTE will BE their voice coverage.
Just throwing that out there...
Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk

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AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?

dondrog said:
Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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When does shipment start for the USA

Are you sure ? i think they are 2 models for htc one A9 with different support for lte bands.

dondrog said:
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AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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SPCS = Sprint
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Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo

ghosttown242 said:
When does shipment start for the USA
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I've seen blurbs about:
1. Shipping early November. I swear I heard in the presentation he said first week of November. I'm guessing this is basic colors.
2. Acid gold and deep garnet will ship late November.
3. Sprint has said they will have the A9 available Nov 6. AT&T has committed, but not set a date or price.

The USA need to start next week Monday in my opinion.

devilman30 said:
Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo
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Most likely...
Well, HTC updated A9 Verizon info on their site.
Instead of "Verizon coming soon"
Now it says: "Verizon coming in December"
:silly:

Aloha Santod,
I couldn't help myself and ended up pulling the trigger on the unlocked version. I'm hoping that if what they say is true that this will run on Verizon. If the boot loader is accessible for unlocking and it works on Verizon I will be one step closer to your custom roms.I decided to sell my M9 because I was dissapointed with the camera and I'm currently using my m8 to pass the time. Hope you decide to do your magic on this unit.
Mahalo Bro.

so its a preorder now, when will this ship for gsm models? i may return my m9 and buy this instead.

I think the a9 is a beautiful device for its price

The Sprint version has all the bands necessary for project Fi. Wonder if that's in the cards as well.