[Q] Portable Hard Drive OTG Power Needed? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys
I was just wondering if i will need extra power if I want to connect my nexus 5 to a portable hard drive via OTG? If there are any that don't need extra power, what are they? I'm in the UK thanks.
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A portable hard drive will need external power. Don't know any that don't. The power draw is too high for the device to handle it.
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I have a 250GB Western Digital Passport, 1TB Samsung M3 and a 500GB DIY portable HDD I made with an old laptop drive and USB 3.0 enclosure from eBay... and none of them require an external power supply as they're all USB powered.
Also, when I had a Note 2 I could connect these drives to it... so whilst I can't say for sure they will work with the N5, I don't think it should be ruled out.
I'm at work right now and have no idea where my USB OTG cable is, but if I can find it when I get home I'll test them out.

Since the S3, all flagship Samsung have been able to power OTG Mechanical HDD's.
On the N5, many will not power however recently a few people have said they have managed to do so, but whatever. Generally the advice with the N5 is you need a powered USB hub. Some may work without but we dont have a catalogue of what works.

I'd really appreciate that CitizenLee. The Samsung M3 was the portable hard drive I was thinking of buying and I would be great to know first hand.
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Does the Xoom support portable USB hard drives?

I've been searching all over and I cant find a definitive answer on this.
I have a Toshiba portable USB hard drive that gets its power from the USB connector (it does not have a separate power supply).
Can I hook this up to my Xoom and watch movies/tv shows from it? Does the Xoom support USB hard drives or thumb drives at all?
Sorry in advance if this has already been answered.
Thanks
Yes but you need a USB OTG cable. Not sure if the Xoom will power an external hard drive that runs off of USB only though, you might need to get one if those cables that splits off for power.
I can't get anything to work, even with a USB OTG cable, and I have 3.2 installed.
When I bought the cable it said this ...
This adapter allows you to plug a USB memory stick pen drive so you can play music, videos, backup & transfer files and view photos.
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The Motorola forum says it can't be done, yet.
Others say you need to root the phone.
I'm sure you need to unlock and install tiamat rom I think?
I'm new to these forums as of today,
But i've read around the forums, and it seems to me that 3.2 doesn't support USBhost, and therefore PENdrives/USBHDD's cannot be used.
As Kippui stated, you will need to use a custom ROM with USBhost support, before you will be able to use the HDD at the very least
oRAirwolf said:
I've been searching all over and I cant find a definitive answer on this.
I have a Toshiba portable USB hard drive that gets its power from the USB connector (it does not have a separate power supply).
Can I hook this up to my Xoom and watch movies/tv shows from it? Does the Xoom support USB hard drives or thumb drives at all?
Sorry in advance if this has already been answered.
Thanks
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If it has no separate power supply then no, the xoom doesn't put out enough power
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my wd passport works fine.
I use a motorla host cable(cheap one ship from china a no go)
I'm rooted
use usb mass storage watcher app
I'm on moray rom
superchilpil said:
If it has no separate power supply then no, the xoom doesn't put out enough power
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Not true about the newer Passports, for example. I have a 1st generation 250GB Passport that can only work if I use a powered hub, but my brand new USB3 650GB Passport works fine and is fully powered by the Xoom.
Please note, I am unlocked, rooted, and running a custom Rom/kernel that supports USB Host Mode.
Stock Honeycomb does not support USBOTG/host mode.
xoom 2 support usb otg with stock firmware
I would go on eBay and buy an Angled USB OTG cable. I got two of them on their for around $7-$8. It's better because you don't have a wire sticking out of your tablet.
I'm paranoid on breaking my ports.
mdcykkk9 said:
xoom 2 support usb otg with stock firmware
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Well that's something in it's favor, anyway.

[Q] Can I use a portable hard drive with the note?

Hi, looking to upgrade to a better tablet, currently between the Note 10.1 and an Asus TF300.
I really want to get the note but need to be able to use a hard drive for taking my movie collection with me when I'm travelling.
For Asus TF line, this is as easy as hooking up drive via the docks USB port. In my case I have a Seagate GoFlex drive, which is also powered via the same USB connection.
What I'm wondering is if anyone who has a Note 10.1 and a USB adapter has had any success in connecting up a drive and whether or not it works, powers up, mounts, etc?
I know NTFS is not supported by the Note so willing to root and use an NTFS mounting app from Google Play or format to FAT32 if necessary.
I'm going to be getting new tablet mid next week so need to know as soon as I can. Can't find any info on this anywhere, just general comments on thumb drives.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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Has anyone been able to try this?
Had a quick play with the Note 10.1 yesterday in Carphone Warehouse, really like it. Spoke to a Samsung rep who was there but she didn't know either.
If not I'd have to get a Seagate Satellite Wireless drive to stream movies to tablet. As that's around £140 - £180 extra (for 500GB) that increases the total price dramatically as I could just use existing portable drive on the TF300 (which is currently having Jelly Bean rolled out in the US, so UK won't be far behind).
Overall I prefer the note but this is really making it difficult to choose.
sadly I've not seen a USBOTG connector for the Note 10.1 yet. I do this on my S3 with no trouble at all, so as soon as I find an OTG cable for the Note I'll test this. Anyone out there know if the adapters for the Tabs are supposed to work? Rumor is that the HDMI connectors do.
RikF said:
sadly I've not seen a USBOTG connector for the Note 10.1 yet. I do this on my S3 with no trouble at all, so as soon as I find an OTG cable for the Note I'll test this. Anyone out there know if the adapters for the Tabs are supposed to work? Rumor is that the HDMI connectors do.
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I've read in a few different places that the Tab OTG cable still works fine as it's supposed to be the same 30 pin connector. I was going to get one this I saw on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Connection-...VZ70/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1345401137&sr=8-6
Less bulky and shouldn't get in the way when putting tablet on a stand.
Thanks for testing it if/when you get a cable. It's definitely appreciated.
Ordered one (slightly different as I'm in the US), should be here in a day or two. Will report back!
I haven't tried my OTG adapter yet, but I think the original Tab 10.1 adapter should work. You may need a hard drive that is externally powered - the tab may not be able to bus-power a drive.
Entropy512 said:
I haven't tried my OTG adapter yet, but I think the original Tab 10.1 adapter should work. You may need a hard drive that is externally powered - the tab may not be able to bus-power a drive.
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Would an externally powered USB hub do the job instead?
st0nec01d said:
Would an externally powered USB hub do the job instead?
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Yes, same results as an externally-powered hard drive. NTFS might require some sort of hacks.
it doesn't support the small external hard desk, i personally tried the WD my passport 1 TB and another one with 500gb, it doesn't power it up, however i have a usb otg with a power supply input and it did power up my passport but its useless this way, where the T700 asus keyboard dock powers up any external small hard drive why samsung ! the note is not yet a replacement of a laptop unless it supports hard drives
RikF said:
Ordered one (slightly different as I'm in the US), should be here in a day or two. Will report back!
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Would you post a link, please. I'll be needing one. Thanks.
kloodee said:
it doesn't support the small external hard desk, i personally tried the WD my passport 1 TB and another one with 500gb, it doesn't power it up, however i have a usb otg with a power supply input and it did power up my passport but its useless this way, where the T700 asus keyboard dock powers up any external small hard drive why samsung ! the note is not yet a replacement of a laptop unless it supports hard drives
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Thought this might be the case
If I get this tablet, looks like I may need to get a powered hub if using tablet near a power supply.
Not ideal though, may have to get a Seagate Satellite 500GB drive which can stream to the tablet via it's own wifi hotspot. Extra cost I'd have liked to avoided (£130+ in the UK).
Thanks for letting me know though, helps my decision making process (a little at least) on which tablet to get.
st0nec01d said:
Thought this might be the case
If I get this tablet, looks like I may need to get a powered hub if using tablet near a power supply.
Not ideal though, may have to get a Seagate Satellite 500GB drive which can stream to the tablet via it's own wifi hotspot. Extra cost I'd have liked to avoided (£130+ in the UK).
Thanks for letting me know though, helps my decision making process (a little at least) on which tablet to get.
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What I don't like about the seagate satellite type drives is the fact that you can only use them with pictures, music & stuff like that no file transfer.
That does suck, but my main concern is being able to access my media.
Shame about the extra cost tho.
In the mean time think I'll get a powered usb hub for an existing drive, which will have to do as a short term solution as this will be connected to tv via hdmi adapter at some point.
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I just tried this to confirm...
It wont power my 500gb WD drive on its own with both the generic otg cable and official samsung usb attachment.
Although my 16gb thumb drive had no issues with either connector.. Just watched some of The Raid Redemption in 720p fine.
Worse case pick up a couple of 64gb thumbs on sale for traveling.
Lol, oddly enough I did just get a 64gb flash drive now also.
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Just got my USB OTG adapter. It connects the Samsung connector port to a USB femail port. When I try to plug in a portable hard drive there is a message that "High power USB device connected" but the drive doesn't spin and isn't mounted. Tried an Ethernet adapter and same thing. I have a powered USB hub and I connected to that and though the hard drive spins it isn't recognized/mounted. Tried connecting a USB flash drive and that isn't mounted.
Ideas?
RikF said:
sadly I've not seen a USBOTG connector for the Note 10.1 yet. I do this on my S3 with no trouble at all, so as soon as I find an OTG cable for the Note I'll test this. Anyone out there know if the adapters for the Tabs are supposed to work? Rumor is that the HDMI connectors do.
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The original adapters should work with the Note. Unfortunately I lost mine or I'd test to confirm but the HDMI adapter works so I assume USB should too.
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portable dvd drive
Using otg adaptor I bought off amazon able to use USB 7 port hub optical mouse and 64gb USB drive.
to work using USB host controller app from play store portable dvd drive no work so rooted my 10.1 32gb note 2014 tried the different otg mount apps to many to name still no work have proper codecs what i need is a generic Linux driver for portable usb dvd burner. I don't have a Linux system up and running yet and virtual Linux on windows just doest cut it so if anyone has drivers to send me would be happy to test them out on my note 3 10.1 2014 30th wifi only have Verizon and my plan let's me use my phone as hot spot no charge. Also can connect log tech optical mouse and keyboard combo through hub no problems. Thanks in advance
P.S. usb stick mount for usb flash drives seems to be the most stable app for my 64gb flash drive
P.S.S. I've tested 5 mini hubs with my note the one that works best is designed for Linux OS it's generic and bought it at Fry's electronics for 8.99

Nexus 5 OTG 2TB External

Hello,
Would just like to know if any of you have tried to OTG Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2TB to your Nexus 5.
Or any portable external drive >= 1TB. Any external drive which do not have separate power adaptor.
Is it possible?
It's definitely not possible just with stock.
You need things.. And it's possible.
Stickmount App
Custom Kernel - For example, franco.
Now a month back with this setup, I was able to use "portable" HDD. Now, I am not able to, I don't know why. Anyways, I tried "power" portable HDD and it worked. I searched the net and found, I need a http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-dual-Micro-B-Cable-Black/dp/B005M0ICG2 this. And it's totally possible.
Great! I'm on PA4.2+Franco right now and also using Stick Mount.
Already tried to OTG my 1TB but it just lit the LED.
I have not thought of using a Dual USB, that means Nexus 5 cannot power a 1TB HD alone.
I hope it can handle 500GB
Maybe I'll try it again once I have the Dual USB already. Thank you.
You'll need a power source. Not sure it can power mechanical drives at all.
rootSU said:
You'll need a power source. Not sure it can power mechanical drives at all.
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im pretty sure it cannot power mechanical drives. they require too much power.
Zepius said:
im pretty sure it cannot power mechanical drives. they require too much power.
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I thought that too. I know the S3 I used to have could power up to 500 GB Mechanical drive through USB Host mode, but that was a technical first. I doubt many OEMs are looking at that as a valid feature request.

SSD via OTG cable

Hi,
I've tried to connect an SSD to my Nexus 5 using the following setup:
Samsung 840 EVO mSATA (MZ-MTE500BW)
ZTC SkyBoard mSATA enclosure
StarTech OTG cable
and apparently there is a power issue.
I've tried to connect using Nexus Media Importer, and although it detects USB Host Support and the OTG connected, it fails to see any storage.
Trying with a memory stick worked, so I know it is not a problem with the app or the cable.
The enclosure with the SSD work when connected to a computer.
From what I know the power consumption is as follows:
Phone can deliver up to 500mA (or 2.5W)
The SSD can consume up to 1W
I could not track down the specs for the enclosure, but the store I bought it from said that it could consume up to 500mA, so it seems that it all adds up to more than the phone can provide.
So, has anyone tried connecting a mSATA to a Nexus 5 and can recommend an enclosure that has a lower power requirement?
Thanks!
SSD's are not the same technology as USB flash drives. They use complex controller boards like HDD's do. Although an ssd has no mechanical parts like a HDD, its still going to need more power than the phone can give. You'll need a powered connection to use an ssd at least - as you would a HDD
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I have experienced the same problem with external hdd. It worked fine with pc. Put pluging it to the phone made the power led blinking rapidly on the external hdd case like it has not enough power. I used an USB hub with its wall adapter then the problem gone.
Yes, I now they differ both as technology and power requirements. However, the SSD only consumes 1W while the phone can provide 2.5W. So the problem must be the enclosure.
This is why I was asking if anyone has a recommendation for an mSATA enclosure that consumes at most 1.5W.
Thanks!
Just saying.. I don't think that will be enough.
Also not sure where you're getting your 1w stat from. 500GB evo mSATA has been observed over 2.5w.
Source
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/samsung-840-evo-msata-review,review-32893-9.html
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Ssd needs more power. Ssd≠usb flash disk
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External hard drive support

Hey,
I would like to connect an external 2.5" hard drive to my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I have the original samsung adapter kit, but I read that it won't be possible because the tablet has not enough power output for an external hard drive. I don't want to risk breaking my hard drive or tablet so that's why I ask here first. Would it work if I connect one USB plug of the y-cable to the tablet and the other one into a powerbank?
How did you solve this problem?
Thanks in advance
lukas12153
Some drives have ability to use their own power supply. Look for one that does.
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