Hi,
I've tried to connect an SSD to my Nexus 5 using the following setup:
Samsung 840 EVO mSATA (MZ-MTE500BW)
ZTC SkyBoard mSATA enclosure
StarTech OTG cable
and apparently there is a power issue.
I've tried to connect using Nexus Media Importer, and although it detects USB Host Support and the OTG connected, it fails to see any storage.
Trying with a memory stick worked, so I know it is not a problem with the app or the cable.
The enclosure with the SSD work when connected to a computer.
From what I know the power consumption is as follows:
Phone can deliver up to 500mA (or 2.5W)
The SSD can consume up to 1W
I could not track down the specs for the enclosure, but the store I bought it from said that it could consume up to 500mA, so it seems that it all adds up to more than the phone can provide.
So, has anyone tried connecting a mSATA to a Nexus 5 and can recommend an enclosure that has a lower power requirement?
Thanks!
SSD's are not the same technology as USB flash drives. They use complex controller boards like HDD's do. Although an ssd has no mechanical parts like a HDD, its still going to need more power than the phone can give. You'll need a powered connection to use an ssd at least - as you would a HDD
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I have experienced the same problem with external hdd. It worked fine with pc. Put pluging it to the phone made the power led blinking rapidly on the external hdd case like it has not enough power. I used an USB hub with its wall adapter then the problem gone.
Yes, I now they differ both as technology and power requirements. However, the SSD only consumes 1W while the phone can provide 2.5W. So the problem must be the enclosure.
This is why I was asking if anyone has a recommendation for an mSATA enclosure that consumes at most 1.5W.
Thanks!
Just saying.. I don't think that will be enough.
Also not sure where you're getting your 1w stat from. 500GB evo mSATA has been observed over 2.5w.
Source
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/samsung-840-evo-msata-review,review-32893-9.html
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Ssd needs more power. Ssd≠usb flash disk
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Hello guys, I'm interested in one thing...it is possible connection of external memory (Pendrive) using a cable ? (photo below)
Is any software to operate this ?
I don't think it would be possible as the memory in the pen drive needs voltage for it to work, can't remember if it's 3.3 or 5 volts but I doubt galaxy could power it or read from it.
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but in nokia n8 this is possible and this phone has the same cable as the picture.
I'm thinking that is needed a suitable program to control this USB...
Nokia has a powered USB port which supplies the connected device with sufficent current in order to read/write to it.
I don't think the Galaxy has ability to output power through it's USB port so with just software I doubt you could achieve it. You would likely need suitable software and also an external power of some sort like a USB hub.
Some people have been trying to achieve this on the Nexus One, but also requires an external powered hub:
http://mobilelocalsocial.com/2010/achievement-unlocked-usb-host-otg-for-android-on-nexus-one-hacked/
Hi,
I was curious if anyone got an ext hd to work with the usb adapter?
Everytime i plug it in, it tells me a "high powered ext hd" is connected but unable to read..i know it was made for usb sticks and keyboards etc but has anyone gotten ext hd to work?
Thanks!
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I found my 1Tb Hitachi Touro was detected to start with but the power was insufficient to leave it on. It was not working after a few seconds of being plugged in. Memory sticks are no problem but the HDD sucked more power than the 10.1 wants to give...
Shame that an awesome tablet that runs rings around just about everything else falls short of my Acer Icona A501 for this...:crying:
I used a 1A externa battery to power an HDD and it worked just fine on the Note. The HDD was NTFS, but I used USB Mass Storage Watcher and mounted the partitions.
To get it ti power on you need a split USB/ power cable.
Yeah, my Acer A700 has this ability but unfortunately the Samsung Note doesn't have the power.
The fix is to buy a self-powered USB hub... Or use high capacity thumb drives.
Or use a hard drive with provisions for external power.
I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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ngocdao said:
I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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Split USB is your best bet. No hub needed, just an external source of power like a portable battery.
Yeah, but it bites my kickass up-to-date sammy tablet is put in its place by my 18 month old Acer Iconia A501 that supports the 1Tb 2.5" HDD with no problem.
I think this bites a bit. Makes life hard If I need more storage than most thumb drives supply...
No how am I supposed to take a veritable video store with me to watch....
If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.
Nope, get at least 6 hours of watching videos from the 1Tb hdd on the acer Iconia A501... The battery is not as beefy as the SGnote 10.1's either...
Just an oversite by samsung...
Just a pain now having to carry 2 tablets around...
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If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.
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It won't because the Note will not provide power to the HDD, you have to use external power.
Hello everyone..
Has anyone tried 1TB hdd (with external power) with our note? Is it compatible?
What is maximum capacity hdd we can connect with our note 10.1?
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syanz87 said:
Hello everyone..
Has anyone tried 1TB hdd (with external power) with our note? Is it compatible?
What is maximum capacity hdd we can connect with our note 10.1?
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I have the Toshiba 1TB external that connects with other tabs (no external power). The Note 10.1 "tries" but fails. Perhaps a power issue as this drive has connected with android tabs in the past.
I'vegot an old Buffalo DriveStation 1TB drive. It's an externally powered 3.5" disk with a USB 2 interface. Just tried it and it works really well. Films stream very smoothly and theres no delay in accessing files.
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Hello.
I have Samsung S2 1TB USB2 NTFS, works fine :good: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S2-USB-Powered-Portable-Midnight/dp/B003UT2QTQ
Op I dont know if u realize u can't read an ntfs formatted drive out the box. Get rooted and dl ntfs mounting app. Or just search the forums
skeeterpro said:
I have the Toshiba 1TB external that connects with other tabs (no external power). The Note 10.1 "tries" but fails. Perhaps a power issue as this drive has connected with android tabs in the past.
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I possibly have the same drive. The only way I can use it is to use a usb 'Y' cable which has 2 usb plugs and 1 usb socket, you plug the hard drive into the socket, one plug goes to the tab and the other one goes to an external usb power supply i.e., laptop or usb mains power adapter. If you can't find one they're easy enough to make, just google it.
From what I understand, our Tabs don't supply enough power to run high power devices such as most usb hard drives.
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Hi guys
I was just wondering if i will need extra power if I want to connect my nexus 5 to a portable hard drive via OTG? If there are any that don't need extra power, what are they? I'm in the UK thanks.
/A-B
A portable hard drive will need external power. Don't know any that don't. The power draw is too high for the device to handle it.
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I have a 250GB Western Digital Passport, 1TB Samsung M3 and a 500GB DIY portable HDD I made with an old laptop drive and USB 3.0 enclosure from eBay... and none of them require an external power supply as they're all USB powered.
Also, when I had a Note 2 I could connect these drives to it... so whilst I can't say for sure they will work with the N5, I don't think it should be ruled out.
I'm at work right now and have no idea where my USB OTG cable is, but if I can find it when I get home I'll test them out.
Since the S3, all flagship Samsung have been able to power OTG Mechanical HDD's.
On the N5, many will not power however recently a few people have said they have managed to do so, but whatever. Generally the advice with the N5 is you need a powered USB hub. Some may work without but we dont have a catalogue of what works.
I'd really appreciate that CitizenLee. The Samsung M3 was the portable hard drive I was thinking of buying and I would be great to know first hand.
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looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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liquidquick said:
looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
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Take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714838
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707375
I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
muzzy996 said:
The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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yes, but usb3 allows for more power to be drawn then usb2 according to the specs. turns out not enough for the hard drive either way unfortunately so the battery might be the way to go. would need a 'y' cable though since there is no power input for the hard drive.
now i'm thinking of just getting one of those hard drive/battery/wi-fi hotspot combos that seagate or corsair makes.
thanks
-lq
moodyboy said:
I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
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thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
liquidquick said:
thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
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1. Power draw is not listed on my HDD. The part number is 9ZF2N5-501 1 TB if that helps. The only connector is theUSB 3 connector, no seperate power input.
2. No, my NotePro is not Rooted.
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liquidquick said:
thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
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I'm interested keep me posted
My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
Hebron connector
EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
RaSand said:
My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
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thats exactly what i was planning on using it for. i've never been able to stream anything via wifi to the tablet (netflix is okay, i mean from my local drives), though, as it always buffers and stutters making video playback unwatchable. probably just my home network, but for almost 200$, i'm a little gunshy about this option.
Hebron connector
EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
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will try this. cables connecting the devices i don't mind... i just don't want to be tied to a wall outlet. especially if there are no walls available. :cyclops: i went with the 16000 easyacc for $50, and the 9pin usb otg y cable for $9; so that setup is much cheaper then the wifi/harddrive/battery device.
final outcome
thanks to everyone who responded with suggestions.
so i ended up getting a power pack, and an otg y-cable to hook up to the hard drive. i actually bought two otg cables, one usb3 9pin and a usb2 5pin. the usb2 had a micro female connector for the power, while the usb3 had a standard male connector.
the usb3 otg didn't work. plugged the power pack in, plugged the harddrive in, plugged it into the tablet.... nothing.
the usb2 otg did work, luckily the power pack had a male-female adapter. tablet recognized the hard drive was present, but said it was blank, and es file explorer popped up a warning that otg only supported fat32 (hard drive was originally exfat). so after reformatting to fat32, everything seems to work well enough.
i don't know why the usb3 cable doesn't work, it may just be a dud but i have nothing else to test it with. all in all, an annoying and frustrating experience getting this to work. i don't see why anyone actually thinks these sorts of tablets are going to become laptop replacements when basic functionality requires so much teeth pulling.
so it goes,
-lq