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I've Been using my nexus and realized that the battery gets empty after 4 or 5 hours if i'm lucky.
I don't believe that i have a faulty one. The thing is that i do a intensive use of my N1 (even stop using my laptop for a wide range of tasks ). So i'm not surprised this is happening. So, I'm wondering if there's a more powerful one that gets me through the full day without messing with garanty or the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645458
But if you're using it so heavily that you empty it in 5 to 6 hours, even the 3200 might not get you through the day.
I see... i'VE be watching the distribution of the battery use, and realized the 80% of the charge goes to the touch screen, and the other 20% is enough to all the apps and services... Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile app
thank you Paulk for your input. Made me realize that
i really don't want a more powerful battery (because it will be necessary also to change the back phone cover). Instead I'll be buying a spare battery (or 2). Sad is the fact that there aren't chargers to the spare... you'll have to put it inside the phone to actually charge it. This is true right?
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Some phone docks do include a spare battery port for charging the spare. I don't believe that the official N1 desktop dock has this feature. Otherwise, yes, you'd have to charge it inside the phone itself.
Are you rooted? I swear, after 50/80 text messages a day, 2-3 hours of music, and 12/30 emails per day, I get home with about 40% battery. I do however use SetCpu profiles
yeah. I'm planning to buy a spare one and the car dock. and yes it only charges the phone it self. so i think is something Google and HTC should look into. but it's not a disaster. if you start the day with 2 fully charged batteries there's the possibility to get to the end of the day. then to charge those too batteries you will need about 4 or 5 hours i gess - a job to do during the night. It could be worse.
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No, you can find chargers on eBay that will charge just the batteries. I've also seen an auction which has a battery charger and 2 batteries (might be the one in the thread U$20 *delivered*: "2x1400mah battery + charger for htc google nexus one")
i could. only wish. during Saturday, from 2pm (when i started using the phone) until 8 am on Sunday i charged twice my N1 (plus the full charge made during the Friday to saturday night). so in about 24 hours i've wasted almost 3 full charges... i see your point, but do you really surf the web or is just msg e mails you send. if i listen to 2 h of music, i bet the batery will get empty before that time. i also use the N1 to remotely access my home and work pc. my wireless card e working 24/7 and the gps no (only when needed ) So you guys tell me if i should worry about this, or not.
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and no, i'm not rooted. doesn't exist software like that to non rooted phones. i do not wich to break my warranty. ..
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Perhaps you can check the inbuilt Battery Use section under About Phone and see what's using your battery so much. You could also install the application Spare Parts, which will allow you to see what's using the CPU while your phone is in standby.
Other than that you might want to use the auto for your backlighting if you don't already. And try to set any auto updates to an hour or so between updates? And disable auto login for Google Talk if you don't use it. If you're using a task manager, I find that constantly running task managers don't work well for my battery life, though your mileage may vary.
Hope this helps!
I find that using Advance Task Killer will help with the battery life. When I had the Motorola Cliq, it didn't last me very long (not sure why, I even fully charge it, go to sleep and wake up next morning with the battery drained at 1%). But ATK did help a lot even with the N1. That's one of the widgets I have up on my home screen
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I've Been using my nexus and realized that the battery gets empty after 4 or 5 hours if i'm lucky.
I don't believe that i have a faulty one. The thing is that i do a intensive use of my N1 (even stop using my laptop for a wide range of tasks ). So i'm not surprised this is happening. So, I'm wondering if there's a more powerful one that gets me through the full day without messing with garanty or the phone.
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I think this is what you are looking for: -
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...one-1600mah-extended-replacement-battery.html
You should probably read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770 before you decide on buying any batteries though. But keep in mind these results only test around 1 battery from each brand.
Re: solution found to my problem
after long research and testing tweeks and apps without real results i went another way and buyed a non-official house dock with possibility to charge also a spare battery; plus a official spare battery. made the buy at expansys webshop, and now I'm living a dream. with 2 batteries i no longer have to be restricted in using the N1. strange is the fact that the original battery i get worse times comparing with the one i buy after. it's a big difference. the first last usualy 6 to 8 h depending on use, and with the spare I'm making 10 to 14 h of use. the best is having allways another charged battery to put in the phone when the gets drained.
Has anyone purchased the Mugen 3200?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-replacement-battery-with-battery-door.html#
I am wondering if that or the Seidio Would be a better buy.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy32hnx1-bk.htm
Hi,
I've purchased a 1200 mAh battery which has name a brand of "Momax" (from eBay). It's price is about USD 10. And it's performance is equal to 60-65% of original nexus one battery. Not good but you know "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys"
I am wondering if that or the Seidio Would be a better buy...
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if you don't bother to get a bigger phone than probably is a hood buy. but if worry the keep the phone looks as it is than i would advise you to go with the standard ones (official). More: are you going to charge the spare in the phone or are you going to have a charger for it? that's really important. .. if you also buy a way to charge it while you use the other battery than you have no reason to buy a extended life battery. that's only my opinion. hope it helps you
this is the "ora charger for the nexus one" i buoyed from expansys web site. my spare battery is in it already charged and ready for when the one i have in the phone gets drained. there's really no need to have a extended on in this conditions. but if you plan not to buy a charger than is quite different. for what i read about the extended ones, they don't give you twice the life. at most 30 to 40% more, and for me that's no enough.
So I tend to run low on battery since I'm a heavy user (games, texting, web browsing, all that fun stuff)
so I decided why not get a 3500mAh battery but the problem is I'm scared I'm going to drop it and everything gets ruined.
Right now I have a case so I was thinking why not get 2 more 1500mAh batteries (comes with a separate charger so I could charge them whenever) along with my stock battery and have at least one spare near me at all times. But I thought it might be a little tedious.
What do you guys think?
I grabbed the 2430mah battery. Lasts a little longer than stock. I got two of them so I could easily go like 3 days without a charge if both batteries were full.
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So I tend to run low on battery since I'm a heavy user (games, texting, web browsing, all that fun stuff)
so I decided why not get a 3500mAh battery but the problem is I'm scared I'm going to drop it and everything gets ruined.
Right now I have a case so I was thinking why not get 2 more 1500mAh batteries (comes with a separate charger so I could charge them whenever) along with my stock battery and have at least one spare near me at all times. But I thought it might be a little tedious.
What do you guys think?
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Just curious why you think you'll drop the 3500 any more than the phone with other batteries? I have the Mugen 4500 and I don't have any issues holding onto it lol.
It's really a matter of personal preference. I personally don't like carrying extra batteries with me. The extended life battery keeps me from worrying about my battery life even under my days of heaviest usage. The only issue I have with the Mugen (not sure if its the same with the 3500) is that photos come out funny if I use the flash. They have this haze because the flash reflects off the oversized battery cover. Photos without flash look just fine tho.
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Just curious why you think you'll drop the 3500 any more than the phone with other batteries? I have the Mugen 4500 and I don't have any issues holding onto it lol.
It's really a matter of personal preference. I personally don't like carrying extra batteries with me. The extended life battery keeps me from worrying about my battery life even under my days of heaviest usage. The only issue I have with the Mugen (not sure if its the same with the 3500) is that photos come out funny if I use the flash. They have this haze because the flash reflects off the oversized battery cover. Photos without flash look just fine tho.
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I have butterfingers and am one of those people that you see constantly dropping there phone and you have no idea how they're dropping their phone.
95% of the pictures I post on here are with the phone with the extended battery.
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I personally would also think it would be a bit tedious to carry around 2 extra batteries all the time. I got a 3500 myself, it lasts a really long time. Though they are a bit weird to get used to, since the device is used to the original 1500 it will show 100% life when the battery is charged to about half of the 3500. People also say that it needs to go through a few charge cycles to get the full effect.
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I personally would also think it would be a bit tedious to carry around 2 extra batteries all the time. I got a 3500 myself, it lasts a really long time. Though they are a bit weird to get used to, since the device is used to the original 1500 it will show 100% life when the battery is charged to about half of the 3500. People also say that it needs to go through a few charge cycles to get the full effect.
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Couldn't you just go into recovery mode and reset battery stats?
I have a stock battery, had my phone for about 3 months, my battery is actually pretty good.. by the end of the day ill have at least 40% left.
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i think battery life is awesome on this phone, Ive never had such good battery life with any other smartphone..
I dont think it needs extended battery.
I think HTC actually tried to eliminate battery drain before making a non removable battery.
I second that, getting great battery usage.
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Me too get very good battery time.
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I made it from 7:30Am to 10:32PM without hitting 10% reserve. The battery life is fine. Just wish people in the amaze form would realize that.
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I made it from 7:30Am to 10:32PM without hitting 10% reserve. The battery life is fine. Just wish people in the amaze form would realize that.
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what connection were you using? wifi or mobile?
Battery life is just great. Nearly no drain in idle.
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what connection were you using? wifi or mobile?
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Mobile all the way
There will always be people who want an extended battery, but its really not needed unless you are using your phone to make 50 pho.e calls in a day or you play 3 hours of games. most people will be more than happy with the battery life provided by the One S.
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no need for a Extended Battery here, where would the battery go if there was one
If you are in bad cell coverage (which eats more juice) or are a heavy user, pray god invest a few bucks into a Gumpack external battery. That thing is half the size if a pack of cigs and stores enough juice for 2-3 full recharges on the go. Its one little more gadget to toss into your daypack and remember to keep charged but its well worth the bother. Certainly easier than speculating about a bigger battery while batt life is fine for most users.
And I am not bashing, if you have a 1.5h commute to work and spend it playing GTA3 i can see where the juice goes. So a gumpack battery would be your best approach, with the current 28nm Krait architecture there is not a lot to gain batterywise really. Plus, the AMOLED sucks less juice on dark images, something to keep in mind when picking a background image I think.
http://www.amazon.com/Just-Mobile-4...QTOC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335148368&sr=8-1
(There are also cheaper competitors offering similar devices if you shop around...)
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How much time passed before you charged it there? About a whole day, right?
i got almost 2 days from it... that was with light use.. with moderate to heavy use i can reach around 24 hours..
but i always stick my phone on charge via usb when im on xda so i never run to 0%
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Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...
No matter how big batteries are, they will ALWAYS fall short for some people. There is no way around it.
The stock batteries in most phones are good enough for average users. You're not one and that's okay - but that's why there are choices.
The SG3 stock battery lasts me the day about 6/7 times - I only feel pinched the day I have a large break and might want to watch video or play games for an extended period of time.
I had options. I could have gotten an extended battery - no swapping, just bigger phone just like you clamp to want. This is available without having to get a phone that may not have good developer support.
You deride external chargers and spares, but you need to chill and realise that different people have different needs and that's why choice is good.
I like having spares. Opening my phone up and changing takes only seconds and I can them in my pocket or bag and I can charge a battery while using a different one. I hardly ever plug the phone itself in any more.
External chargers can power multiple devices and have HUGE capacities compared to even very large extended batteries.
There are so many choices at I don't tnk this is a big/any issue. No battery will be big enough for everyone unless perhaps the technology is completely revolutionised beyond what it is capable of today.
So yeah. Battery issue is not an issue.
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Putting in larger batteries makes the phone in turn bigger and heavier.
That's why they probably limit it as people prefer thinner and lighter phones!
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I'm satisfied with the battery life of my s3. I take it for granted that i need to use a charger if i continouisly use it. I wouldn't want my device to be even bigger, left alone to weigh anymore than it does already....
Frankly, if the average (read: majority) user had such a problem with battery life more companies would invest a lot more on battery research.
I could've used a more battery friendly ROM on my phone and have it last days on my 1700mAh battery, but I don't bother because at the end of most days I'm left with something above 20%.
I have three spares I never use plus the three year old stock battery, and I've not really ever needed them.
I'm also not really a big fan of "perfection", which for example is why I'm not an iOS user.
Perfection is synonymous with boring in the tech world, and battery constraints actually demands something from the phone designers.
That demand holds more value than most can imagine.
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I carry no bag
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mostly phones are quite light and 10-20g extra wouldn't be a noticeable difference. not importantly noticeable.
the only mobile phone I had in my life with no battery disappointments was nokia 15 years ago. all phones since they support 3g, failed me.
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New technology has higher power requirements. It's not fair to compare phones today to one's from 15 years ago - I mean, dude, back then it's not like you were doing anything other than calls on that thing - certainly no streaming or anything.
I only have a bag on school days - but I have pockets. And really, it's not about either of us - it's about choices and everyone else. Plenty of people Do have bags or briefcases or something every day. You can't just think of your own habits.
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My phone has 1.5W (pick) consumption with 3" screen
I just bought a 58WH portable power http://www.mrbattery.com.tw/product_detail.php?pid=MBP0001023
It's able to let my brightness100% and CPU stick on 1.6GHz for 3 days and nights!
I own a HTC Desire hd previously. That phone battery life was totally horrible. I had to carry a portable charger everywhere. In comparison, s3's battery life is beyond excellent. (Note: I disabled most of the power drawing apps/functions.)
With that being said, having a large capacity battery is one of the main thing I look out for when buying a phone.
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We're kind of at the end of the rope concerning battery capacity. There are just no easy ways to store a lot of energy in a small place. If we were able to build batteries with higher capacities in reasonable formats, we would already have them. Every new advance in battery technology only adds a small percentage of capacity or lengthens its usable service life somewhat.
But I do agree that the phones are now at a comfortable size, battery life should not be sacrificed for thinner phones. I bought the extended battery for my S II, it only makes the phone a 3 mm thicker, but that does add 20% of battery life. IMO they should have released the phone like that, but then they would have not been able to market it as the thinnest phone.
All I hear about is the disadvantages of having a built in battery but are there any benefits to it from a customer's standpoint? Or is it just to cut costs for companies? I would interested to hear people's opinions about it.
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All I hear about is the disadvantages of having a built in battery but are there any benefits to it from a customer's standpoint? Or is it just to cut costs for companies? I would interested to hear people's opinions about it.
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The only benefit is the ability to use more designs. I would say the ability to use metal (such as the HTC One), but the Inspire 4G was made of metal and still had a removable battery on the side (the removable door was plastic). There are no benefits beyond that.
- No extended battery support (except for maybe a battery case).
- When the battery dies completely, it may difficult or impossible to replace it (HTC One, Nexus 4). HTC One was rated a 1/10 for repairability by iFixIt (reputable). You may wish to use a phone after your 2 year contract is over, but in the US you only get a 1 year warranty. So when it dies completely, your warranty is gone, and you're screwed.
- When the battery completely loses a charge (as in it dies in the sense of you running it down during the day), there's a chance it won't turn on again at all. Normally, you would put the battery in an external charger to force it to charge or just replace it, but you can't do that with a battery that's bolted down (Nexus 4) or near-impossible to get to (HTC One).
Damn. So then why do companies do it?
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Damn. So then why do companies do it?
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Waterproofing on high-end models (like the Xperia Z) could be a reason. If you seal a battery in, you don't have to worry about having an ugly screw-type lock to release a battery door.
But most phones aren't waterproof, so besides extra room for design (a metal phone that's made of one piece of aluminum, like the HTC One) there isn't much of a reason. I personally don't mind if it's non-removable as long as I can open the phone up easily and replace it myself (like on the iPhone 4/4S). I don't want my phone's life to be only as long as my battery is able to hold a charge (After about 2 years it starts to noticeably hold less of a charge overall).
I've heard that it's suppose to make it easier to pack a larger battery in but Samsung manages to pack a larger capacity battery in the physically smaller GS4 versus the One so yeah =/
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I've heard that it's suppose to make it easier to pack a larger battery in but Samsung manages to pack a larger capacity battery in the physically smaller GS4 versus the One so yeah =/
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Built-in battery = Useless
I never preferred built-in as i am very much interested in modding my phone.... and if it hangs, best option- remove battery.... but if built in then
Although a little old now, the HTC Sensation was all metal/glass but had a removable battery. And the wrap around design of the battery cover/antenna was quite nice i think.
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Never and never i prefer this inbuilt battery mobiles...
May be one of the guy said it helps in waterproof(not in all)..
All other are disadvantages only...
Now a days no companies are releasing this type of devices..
I wouldn't mind built in batteries if they were all huge like the Motoroa Razr Maxx.
Built-in battery
I usually change the original battery with a most powerfull one as soon as I can, so I don't line built-in batteries.
Does this mean that a phone like the Nexus 4 will surely need to be replaced after a couple years use?
I was really hoping this would be a phone that I could still use 3 or 4 years down the road... is it really that hard to open up the phone to replace the battery with a new one? I would image that instead of sliding open a door for the battery, you would just need a screw to remove the door instead.
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Built-in battery = Useless
I never preferred built-in as i am very much interested in modding my phone.... and if it hangs, best option- remove battery.... but if built in then
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And how can I reset the phone when it hangs if I can't remove the battery?
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Robogar said:
Does this mean that a phone like the Nexus 4 will surely need to be replaced after a couple years use?
I was really hoping this would be a phone that I could still use 3 or 4 years down the road... is it really that hard to open up the phone to replace the battery with a new one? I would image that instead of sliding open a door for the battery, you would just need a screw to remove the door instead.
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As with any battery, it will begin to wear down after a couple years. Due to the fact that the Nexus 4 has a built-in battery, it may be easier for some people to just get a new device at the end of two years.
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- When the battery completely loses a charge (as in it dies in the sense of you running it down during the day), there's a chance it won't turn on again at all. Normally, you would put the battery in an external charger to force it to charge or just replace it, but you can't do that with a battery that's bolted down (Nexus 4) or near-impossible to get to (HTC One).
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So, if you wanted to replace the battery at the end of two years and keep using the phone, you wouldn't be able to with the Nexus 4.
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Paran[dr]oid said:
And how can I reset the phone when it hangs if I can't remove the battery?
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All Android phones reboot if you hold the power button down for about 6 seconds.
I'm a natural born klutz and being able to pull my battery when I knock something liquid onto my phone has saved me a couple of times. <sheepish>
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built-in batteries = it would deter me from buying that device/phone, simply cos i like 'options' on both the hardware and software of my purchases. And for the reasons you stated, companies interests are often the opposite of their buyers interest.