Built in Battery Benefits - General Topics

All I hear about is the disadvantages of having a built in battery but are there any benefits to it from a customer's standpoint? Or is it just to cut costs for companies? I would interested to hear people's opinions about it.
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tsmith9191 said:
All I hear about is the disadvantages of having a built in battery but are there any benefits to it from a customer's standpoint? Or is it just to cut costs for companies? I would interested to hear people's opinions about it.
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The only benefit is the ability to use more designs. I would say the ability to use metal (such as the HTC One), but the Inspire 4G was made of metal and still had a removable battery on the side (the removable door was plastic). There are no benefits beyond that.
- No extended battery support (except for maybe a battery case).
- When the battery dies completely, it may difficult or impossible to replace it (HTC One, Nexus 4). HTC One was rated a 1/10 for repairability by iFixIt (reputable). You may wish to use a phone after your 2 year contract is over, but in the US you only get a 1 year warranty. So when it dies completely, your warranty is gone, and you're screwed.
- When the battery completely loses a charge (as in it dies in the sense of you running it down during the day), there's a chance it won't turn on again at all. Normally, you would put the battery in an external charger to force it to charge or just replace it, but you can't do that with a battery that's bolted down (Nexus 4) or near-impossible to get to (HTC One).

Damn. So then why do companies do it?
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tsmith9191 said:
Damn. So then why do companies do it?
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Waterproofing on high-end models (like the Xperia Z) could be a reason. If you seal a battery in, you don't have to worry about having an ugly screw-type lock to release a battery door.
But most phones aren't waterproof, so besides extra room for design (a metal phone that's made of one piece of aluminum, like the HTC One) there isn't much of a reason. I personally don't mind if it's non-removable as long as I can open the phone up easily and replace it myself (like on the iPhone 4/4S). I don't want my phone's life to be only as long as my battery is able to hold a charge (After about 2 years it starts to noticeably hold less of a charge overall).

I've heard that it's suppose to make it easier to pack a larger battery in but Samsung manages to pack a larger capacity battery in the physically smaller GS4 versus the One so yeah =/

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I've heard that it's suppose to make it easier to pack a larger battery in but Samsung manages to pack a larger capacity battery in the physically smaller GS4 versus the One so yeah =/
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Built-in battery = Useless
I never preferred built-in as i am very much interested in modding my phone.... and if it hangs, best option- remove battery.... but if built in then

Although a little old now, the HTC Sensation was all metal/glass but had a removable battery. And the wrap around design of the battery cover/antenna was quite nice i think.
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Never and never i prefer this inbuilt battery mobiles...
May be one of the guy said it helps in waterproof(not in all)..
All other are disadvantages only...
Now a days no companies are releasing this type of devices..

I wouldn't mind built in batteries if they were all huge like the Motoroa Razr Maxx.

Built-in battery
I usually change the original battery with a most powerfull one as soon as I can, so I don't line built-in batteries.

Does this mean that a phone like the Nexus 4 will surely need to be replaced after a couple years use?
I was really hoping this would be a phone that I could still use 3 or 4 years down the road... is it really that hard to open up the phone to replace the battery with a new one? I would image that instead of sliding open a door for the battery, you would just need a screw to remove the door instead.

dising007 said:
Built-in battery = Useless
I never preferred built-in as i am very much interested in modding my phone.... and if it hangs, best option- remove battery.... but if built in then
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And how can I reset the phone when it hangs if I can't remove the battery?
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Robogar said:
Does this mean that a phone like the Nexus 4 will surely need to be replaced after a couple years use?
I was really hoping this would be a phone that I could still use 3 or 4 years down the road... is it really that hard to open up the phone to replace the battery with a new one? I would image that instead of sliding open a door for the battery, you would just need a screw to remove the door instead.
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As with any battery, it will begin to wear down after a couple years. Due to the fact that the Nexus 4 has a built-in battery, it may be easier for some people to just get a new device at the end of two years.
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- When the battery completely loses a charge (as in it dies in the sense of you running it down during the day), there's a chance it won't turn on again at all. Normally, you would put the battery in an external charger to force it to charge or just replace it, but you can't do that with a battery that's bolted down (Nexus 4) or near-impossible to get to (HTC One).
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So, if you wanted to replace the battery at the end of two years and keep using the phone, you wouldn't be able to with the Nexus 4.
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And how can I reset the phone when it hangs if I can't remove the battery?
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All Android phones reboot if you hold the power button down for about 6 seconds.

I'm a natural born klutz and being able to pull my battery when I knock something liquid onto my phone has saved me a couple of times. <sheepish>
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built-in batteries = it would deter me from buying that device/phone, simply cos i like 'options' on both the hardware and software of my purchases. And for the reasons you stated, companies interests are often the opposite of their buyers interest.

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More powerfull bateries for nexus

I've Been using my nexus and realized that the battery gets empty after 4 or 5 hours if i'm lucky.
I don't believe that i have a faulty one. The thing is that i do a intensive use of my N1 (even stop using my laptop for a wide range of tasks ). So i'm not surprised this is happening. So, I'm wondering if there's a more powerful one that gets me through the full day without messing with garanty or the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645458
But if you're using it so heavily that you empty it in 5 to 6 hours, even the 3200 might not get you through the day.
I see... i'VE be watching the distribution of the battery use, and realized the 80% of the charge goes to the touch screen, and the other 20% is enough to all the apps and services... Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile app
thank you Paulk for your input. Made me realize that
i really don't want a more powerful battery (because it will be necessary also to change the back phone cover). Instead I'll be buying a spare battery (or 2). Sad is the fact that there aren't chargers to the spare... you'll have to put it inside the phone to actually charge it. This is true right?
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Some phone docks do include a spare battery port for charging the spare. I don't believe that the official N1 desktop dock has this feature. Otherwise, yes, you'd have to charge it inside the phone itself.
Are you rooted? I swear, after 50/80 text messages a day, 2-3 hours of music, and 12/30 emails per day, I get home with about 40% battery. I do however use SetCpu profiles
yeah. I'm planning to buy a spare one and the car dock. and yes it only charges the phone it self. so i think is something Google and HTC should look into. but it's not a disaster. if you start the day with 2 fully charged batteries there's the possibility to get to the end of the day. then to charge those too batteries you will need about 4 or 5 hours i gess - a job to do during the night. It could be worse.
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No, you can find chargers on eBay that will charge just the batteries. I've also seen an auction which has a battery charger and 2 batteries (might be the one in the thread U$20 *delivered*: "2x1400mah battery + charger for htc google nexus one")
i could. only wish. during Saturday, from 2pm (when i started using the phone) until 8 am on Sunday i charged twice my N1 (plus the full charge made during the Friday to saturday night). so in about 24 hours i've wasted almost 3 full charges... i see your point, but do you really surf the web or is just msg e mails you send. if i listen to 2 h of music, i bet the batery will get empty before that time. i also use the N1 to remotely access my home and work pc. my wireless card e working 24/7 and the gps no (only when needed ) So you guys tell me if i should worry about this, or not.
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and no, i'm not rooted. doesn't exist software like that to non rooted phones. i do not wich to break my warranty. ..
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Perhaps you can check the inbuilt Battery Use section under About Phone and see what's using your battery so much. You could also install the application Spare Parts, which will allow you to see what's using the CPU while your phone is in standby.
Other than that you might want to use the auto for your backlighting if you don't already. And try to set any auto updates to an hour or so between updates? And disable auto login for Google Talk if you don't use it. If you're using a task manager, I find that constantly running task managers don't work well for my battery life, though your mileage may vary.
Hope this helps!
I find that using Advance Task Killer will help with the battery life. When I had the Motorola Cliq, it didn't last me very long (not sure why, I even fully charge it, go to sleep and wake up next morning with the battery drained at 1%). But ATK did help a lot even with the N1. That's one of the widgets I have up on my home screen
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I've Been using my nexus and realized that the battery gets empty after 4 or 5 hours if i'm lucky.
I don't believe that i have a faulty one. The thing is that i do a intensive use of my N1 (even stop using my laptop for a wide range of tasks ). So i'm not surprised this is happening. So, I'm wondering if there's a more powerful one that gets me through the full day without messing with garanty or the phone.
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I think this is what you are looking for: -
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...one-1600mah-extended-replacement-battery.html
You should probably read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770 before you decide on buying any batteries though. But keep in mind these results only test around 1 battery from each brand.
Re: solution found to my problem
after long research and testing tweeks and apps without real results i went another way and buyed a non-official house dock with possibility to charge also a spare battery; plus a official spare battery. made the buy at expansys webshop, and now I'm living a dream. with 2 batteries i no longer have to be restricted in using the N1. strange is the fact that the original battery i get worse times comparing with the one i buy after. it's a big difference. the first last usualy 6 to 8 h depending on use, and with the spare I'm making 10 to 14 h of use. the best is having allways another charged battery to put in the phone when the gets drained.
Has anyone purchased the Mugen 3200?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-replacement-battery-with-battery-door.html#
I am wondering if that or the Seidio Would be a better buy.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy32hnx1-bk.htm
Hi,
I've purchased a 1200 mAh battery which has name a brand of "Momax" (from eBay). It's price is about USD 10. And it's performance is equal to 60-65% of original nexus one battery. Not good but you know "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys"
I am wondering if that or the Seidio Would be a better buy...
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if you don't bother to get a bigger phone than probably is a hood buy. but if worry the keep the phone looks as it is than i would advise you to go with the standard ones (official). More: are you going to charge the spare in the phone or are you going to have a charger for it? that's really important. .. if you also buy a way to charge it while you use the other battery than you have no reason to buy a extended life battery. that's only my opinion. hope it helps you
this is the "ora charger for the nexus one" i buoyed from expansys web site. my spare battery is in it already charged and ready for when the one i have in the phone gets drained. there's really no need to have a extended on in this conditions. but if you plan not to buy a charger than is quite different. for what i read about the extended ones, they don't give you twice the life. at most 30 to 40% more, and for me that's no enough.

Has anybody found a battery case that works?

I looked all over eBay and all I see are cases for the international HOX and I really want to be able to have one that works for our phone. I remember mugen mentioning that they would have one out already, but they said that over a month ago. Are companies not making it because HTC's sales in the recent quarter was extremely low compared to the projected numbers? If anybody has found one please let me know I love everything about this phone but I hate lugging around a charger, and I don't always have access or the time to plug it in.
PS I don't want to hear anybody come in and say they get 4 hours of screen time blah blah blah on whatever mods they do. That's great, but 4 hours of screen time equals about 6 hours of total usage which is only half the day for me. I'm a college student and I do a lot on my phone whether it be in class taking notes, or on conference calls.
And I'm not complaining about the phone, just lack of this particular accessory. I believe this is a damn near perfect phone I just want the juice to make it even more perfect!
There's no battery cases that are either good or work for the S4 variant as the pins are placed differently.
There are however external battery packs that are relatively small and provide a punch. Had one for the Sammy Vibrant and was super easy to hide in back pack, as you are a college student.
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There's no battery cases that are either good or work for the S4 variant as the pins are placed differently.
There are however external battery packs that are relatively small and provide a punch. Had one for the Sammy Vibrant and was super easy to hide in back pack, as you are a college student.
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Yeah, I ordered one of these in preparation for Comic Con:
http://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-External-Battery-Sensation-Motorola/dp/B005NGKR54
Pretty happy with it so far, and the price is definitely right.
Silellak said:
Yeah, I ordered one of these in preparation for Comic Con:
http://www.amazon.com/10000mAh-External-Battery-Sensation-Motorola/dp/B005NGKR54
Pretty happy with it so far, and the price is definitely right.
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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+1 I want something that can at least double my battery life. That would be great.
EDIT: they reviews on this look solid! I would like to know how many full charges it would do on our phones.
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how many charges for your phone can you get off it? I'm curious if you've tested that yet
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Haven't fully tested, but judging by the MaH, I would expect to be able to charge it two or three times over at least.
Actually judging by the mah I'd say it would charge it around 4 times.
10,000/1,800 is a little more than 5 so its safe to assume 4 times over.
rohan32 said:
Actually judging by the mah I'd say it would charge it around 4 times.
10,000/1,800 is a little more than 5 so its safe to assume 4 times over.
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This is all assuming that the phone uses 0 power while it's on and charging
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This is all assuming that the phone uses 0 power while it's on and charging
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These external chargers actually lose quite a bit of power in translation... I think I remember reading it's a 35% loss but don't remember exactly, so that 10000 mah is really more like 6500 for the phone (somewhere along those lines, anyways).
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These external chargers actually lose quite a bit of power in translation... I think I remember reading it's a 35% loss but don't remember exactly, so that 10000 mah is really more like 6500 for the phone (somewhere along those lines, anyways).
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Do you happen to know if that 35% is per use or overall?
Any updates on this front? Went to chicago recently and the daily murdering of my battery life had me itching for a good charger case!
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battery case
I really hope a better looking one comes out the options are either cheap looking or incompatible from the moved pins

Portable Chargers

I dont have a nexus 4, and wont for a couple of months, but since it doesnt have a removeable battery, these portable chargers might be useful.
2200MAH
2600MAH (these look really nice)
Have you tried them? I'm wondering what the reliability is like, do they quickly lose the power to hold charge?
I prefer the looks of this one better. Almost 6 full charges, for 3 dollars more than ordering and carrying around 6 of those things.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3GSCL19TAH7YV
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Have you tried them? I'm wondering what the reliability is like, do they quickly lose the power to hold charge?
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Ive tried the second one with my Epic 4G Touch. It drops about 1% each day that it isnt being used. It can charge my Epic (1800MAH) once, and the second time, goes about 35%
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I prefer the looks of this one better. Almost 6 full charges, for 3 dollars more than ordering and carrying around 6 of those things.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3GSCL19TAH7YV
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makes sense, but its a bit bulky for many people.
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Ive tried the second one with my Epic 4G Touch. It drops about 1% each day that it isnt being used. It can charge my Epic (1800MAH) once, and the second time, goes about 35%
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I see, does it break easily though? or are you still using it now?
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I see, does it break easily though? or are you still using it now?
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im Still using it. Its normally in my backpack with my phone plugged in charging. Its not as strong as steel though
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im Still using it. Its normally in my backpack with my phone plugged in charging. Its not as strong as steel though
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Ok, Thanks.
The second one looks portable and not much $$.
Thanks
An important thing to note is that if your phone has a 2100mAh battery and you have a 2100mAh portable charger, you will not get a full charge out of it, as some is lost in transition. You will usually only get between 2/3 to 3/4 of the capacity of the portable charger transferred to your phone.
I have this for my Atrix 4G and will use it for my Nexus 4 when my back order ships. The Atrix 4G has an 1880mAh battery, and I get about two charges out of it. It is about twice as thick as the Atrix, but about half as wide and about an inch shorter. It also functions as a laser pointer and flashlight. It is rugged enough that I bring it camping with me and don't treat it with much care and it still works fine. Very solidly built.
I bought something like this from a seller on ebay, it came from china. It broke right away, but it seems people are having better luck then I did.
I really like the first one in the OP. I like that it can easily be plugged into the phone while using it. I just wish the capacity was a little bigger.
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Anyone have experience with or can recommend a unit that is direct plugged and not needing a USB cable? Something more for emergency charging that is pocket portable carried for backup use for uses such as a quick charge at a concert or sporting event. Carried in blue jean pocket are a other small pocket.
I just ordered this for $23. It looks really thin and has a retractable micro usb plug, which is huge for me. This may be good for the person who just posted before me too:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimTalk-Exte...TF8&qid=1353778188&sr=8-7&keywords=Anker+slim
I also ordered this one for my wife:
http://www.amazon.com/AnkerĀ®-Astro-...UTF8&qid=1353778415&sr=8-1&keywords=Anker+lip
In addition, the company, Anker, also has a few bigger models with a lot more capacity if you're interested. I haven't bought any of their products before, but the reviews all seem to be very positive.
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Anyone have experience with or can recommend a unit that is direct plugged and not needing a USB cable? Something more for emergency charging that is pocket portable carried for backup use for uses such as a quick charge at a concert or sporting event. Carried in blue jean pocket are a other small pocket.
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The first one in my op seems like it would fit the bill
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The first one in my op seems like it would fit the bill
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The only problem is it seems like the first one won't get you a full charge.
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Oh, I forgot about that. If you do some searching on eBay and amazon you can probably find some with 2600mah
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One X+ battery in One XL

Does anyone know if we can do what the tegra one x users are doing and replace our batteries with the 2100mah one x+ battery? Looks like it should work from what I have been able to dig up, but not 100% sure. 2100mah One x+ batteries are going for around $35 on eBay.
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What exactly have you dug up? More than likely the increase of the battery size is a physical change.
From my research, the batteries are the same size across the X, the XL and the X+ except the X+ has a different chemistry (you can tell since it's 3.8V instead of 3.7V) so it holds 2100mah instead of 1800mah.
The XL doesn't seem to overheat as badly as the X does so we already get better battery life than the X. It seems the X+ battery heats even less so not only do you get more battery because it has more mah, it also lasts a bit longer because there's less heat.
I made a thread about this a month or so ago. One s people report no problems with it. Try it for us!
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Not worried about the .1 volt it shouldn't be an issue, was more concerned about the physical size. I will be ordering one tomorrow.
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Not worried about the .1 volt it shouldn't be an issue, was more concerned about the physical size. I will be ordering one tomorrow.
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Nice! Report back on the battery life improvements when you get it back. If you have time, run Nova Battery Tester (long mode) after using it for a week to break in the battery.
I want to get the battery myself since I know it'll fit but I'm unsure on how much extra battery life we'll get on the HOXL since we already had less warm and better battery life than the HOX. There's also a small chance the HONE will have the same battery size again (with larger capacity) so I'm hoping for that too =D
As a side-note, if anyone else is feeling brave, this is the part: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-HTC-35H00197-00M-Battery-One-X-/350717040129
If c5satellite2 succeeds I'm thinking of doing this too haha.
Perhaps when the warranty runs out, I'll give it a shot...
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As a side-note, if anyone else is feeling brave, this is the part: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-HTC-35H00197-00M-Battery-One-X-/350717040129
If c5satellite2 succeeds I'm thinking of doing this too haha.
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I just got my battery today, and installed it... and it was a success!... kind of.. our internals are slightly different from the international One X, but the basic of the design is the same. You just pop the screen off, take off some screws, pull off the battery. Some of the key differences from the international one x is the plastic cover over the motherboard near the camera. it hides the screen cable and the volume key cable is also hidden next to the battery. I recommend pulling off the volume keys out when trying to take off the battery cable. they are glued onto the side and can be easily peeled.
I had my fair share of scares and had to open my phone quite a few times.... and as a result, the housing got bent and i ended up breaking the micro usb part of the housing. Not a big deal since I have my TPU case on at all times... I also managed to break the pressure pins for the wifi antenna... ended up using some solder and fixing that up... luckily i'm getting great wifi reception now.... be careful when prying the screen off near the left side... if u stick something in there, don't push in your prying tool too deep.... there are about 4-6 pressure pins on that side. but after all that, I got the one X+ battery in my AT&T One XL!!!!
I gotta run it for few days to see if it's stable enough... I really hope it's okay lol... but if it breaks I'm also due for an upgrade plus have a nexus 4 as a back up so no biggie
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I just got my battery today, and installed it... and it was a success!... kind of.. our internals are slightly different from the international One X, but the basic of the design is the same. You just pop the screen off, take off some screws, pull off the battery. Some of the key differences from the international one x is the plastic cover over the motherboard near the camera. it hides the screen cable and the volume key cable is also hidden next to the battery. I recommend pulling off the volume keys out when trying to take off the battery cable. they are glued onto the side and can be easily peeled.
I had my fair share of scares and had to open my phone quite a few times.... and as a result, the housing got bent and i ended up breaking the micro usb part of the housing. Not a big deal since I have my TPU case on at all times... I also managed to break the pressure pins for the wifi antenna... ended up using some solder and fixing that up... luckily i'm getting great wifi reception now.... be careful when prying the screen off near the left side... if u stick something in there, don't push in your prying tool too deep.... there are about 4-6 pressure pins on that side. but after all that, I got the one X+ battery in my AT&T One XL!!!!
I gotta run it for few days to see if it's stable enough... I really hope it's okay lol... but if it breaks I'm also due for an upgrade plus have a nexus 4 as a back up so no biggie
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happy to hear that. looking for your feedback soon.
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happy to hear that. looking for your feedback soon.
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+1 I am very interested in trying this out if there are no issues and it boosts my battery
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+1 I am very interested in trying this out if there are no issues and it boosts my battery
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For those interested... Here's a picture of what the phone looks like inside... this was before installation and stressing out. The left is the one x+ battery. sorry for the crappy quality pic.
idealz said:
For those interested... Here's a picture of what the phone looks like inside... this was before installation and stressing out. The left is the one x+ battery. sorry for the crappy quality pic.
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Do you have battery life stats yet?
Not the greatest battery life I've seen. My set up is cm10.1. Mostly stock. Stock cpu/kernel. I charged my phone and calibrated my battery. Wiped battery stats. Calibrated again for good measure. I have wifi on at all times. Auto brightness that's adjusted to low brightness. Tasker running at all times only controls volume (according to time) and 2g only when connected to wifi. I also use greenify to hibernate maps. I'm mostly on wifi all day. So far no problem.. Thinking of doing a clean wipe and restore.
I'm sure sense roms will do much better. I will run nova battery tester when I charge my phone tonight. Most likely my battery will last til the end of the day. (over 24hours with 3+ hour screen on which is probably 1hour more screen on time than before)
it's only day 1 with the new battery so i'm hoping after a week i'll get the full benefit of the battery... I may need to try a sense rom.
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Here's another one from today. 4.5 hr screen on with netflix draining the battery.
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idealz said:
Here's another one from today. 4.5 hr screen on with netflix draining the battery.
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thats pretty friking awesome. maybe about a 15% to 20% battery life increase.
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thats pretty friking awesome. maybe about a 15% to 20% battery life increase.
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Well 15% is exactly what's expected =)
I will try viperxl over the weekend and see how sense does
btw anyone know apps that can measure our battery capacity? I tried nova and battery monitor widget.... nova doesn't seem to work and battery monitor widget says that I need more charge cycles.... or am I doing something wrong w/ transitioning to a higher capacity battery?
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Instead of Viper, try CleanROM or RebelROM. The first is a lighter Sense ROM, and the latter is a mostly desensed one with AOSP touches.
Viper is too bloated to get great battery life, but has tons of tweaks.
theking_13 said:
Instead of Viper, try CleanROM or RebelROM. The first is a lighter Sense ROM, and the latter is a mostly desensed one with AOSP touches.
Viper is too bloated to get great battery life, but has tons of tweaks.
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I get 20 hours with 4 hours screen time on viperxl. What are you talking about?
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[Q] How do you live with phone with non-removable battery?

I have been using phone with removable battery and I have extra batteries that i can hot swap with. But my next phone i am seriously considering phones that doesn't have this option. (M8, OnePlus, etc.)
How do you get through the day when you can't swap out batteries?
If you can list your current phone and how you deal with low battery, that will be great.
AngryDinosaur said:
I have been using phone with removable battery and I have extra batteries that i can hot swap with. But my next phone i am seriously considering phones that doesn't have this option. (M8, OnePlus, etc.)
How do you get through he day when you can't swap out batteries?
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Pretty good. The phone case has a better quality on most of these phone. E.g. my HTC One S could never bee that great if it was not "unibody". For normal purpose you never need to pull out the battery. And also a "built-in" battery can be replaced by yourself, if you're a little bit technically minded.
Well the battery doesn't drain that fast. It is enough for me for the whole day.
I think if you buy a new phone the battery will last for a day unless you spend the whole day gaming on your phone. The battery life depended on your usage. I charge my phone once a day but I spend most of the time texting and on social apps (on WiFi). I have HTC One X+
And if you're worried about the phone freezing and not being able to pull the battery out to reset it, you can easily simulate a battery pull on non removable battery devices by pressing and holding two buttons for 15 seconds (Volume Up and Power most of of the time restarts the phone even when it's frozen)
If you have any more questions then feel free to ask!
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Generally speaking, non-removable batteries have higher capacities than removable ones and so there shouldn't be an issue where you're not getting at least a day of medium usage out of the device.
Having said that, I'm in a similar boat to you at the moment; I've had this 7K battery in my S3 for about a year now and going back to a 2000-3000mAh battery when I upgrade will take some getting used to.
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You can always simply get an external battery, e.g. search for "Anker" at Amazon. They're portable and offer capacities of up to 15000mAh.
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