random read write speed ... - General Questions and Answers

is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..? android devices will give better performance in higher random read write speed sd card ......so which class of sd card we should purchase for android devices .....??
...my regards

rishav754 said:
is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..? android devices will give better performance in higher random read write speed sd card ......so which class of sd card we should purchase for android devices .....??
...my regards
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That really depends on you. What do you mainly want to do with the sd card?

LS.xD said:
That really depends on you. What do you mainly want to do with the sd card?
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is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..?

rishav754 said:
is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..?
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"Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds."

LS.xD said:
"Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds."
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thanks for reply
which means that class 4 have best random read write speed despite of sequential speed than class 6 and 10 .

rishav754 said:
thanks for reply
which means that class 4 have best random read write speed despite of sequential speed than class 6 and 10 .
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I'm not a SD crad lol. Every manufacturer's sd cards provide different r/w speeds, even if its the same "class". May I know whats the main purpose of your sd card?

LS.xD said:
I'm not a SD crad lol. Every manufacturer's sd cards provide different r/w speeds, even if its the same "class". May I know whats the main purpose of your sd card?
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they only provide sequential read and write speed....but for proper running of an operating system we need good random read and write speed as far as different application are concerned....so in my view if anyone purchase an class 10 sd card for his mobile he wouldn't able to use his hardware properly ....which means lack in performance due to hardware limitation .......so for android running device which have their applications in sd card isn't class 4 should be preferred in spite of other class so that we got good sequential as well as random speed ...
regards ..

rishav754 said:
they only provide sequential read and write speed....but for proper running of an operating system we need good random read and write speed as far as different application are concerned....so in my view if anyone purchase an class 10 sd card for his mobile he wouldn't able to use his hardware properly ....which means lack in performance due to hardware limitation .......so for android running device which have their applications in sd card isn't class 4 should be preferred in spite of other class so that we got good sequential as well as random speed ...
regards ..
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Is this a proofed information or your personal opinion ?!?!?!?! I'd just say you're wrong. It DEPENDS ON PURPOSE of th sd card. For me a class 10 card does it much better than my class 4 and 6 card. A "SanDisk Class 10 or higher" won't slow your device in any case...

LS.xD said:
Is this a proofed information or your personal opinion ?!?!?!?! I'd just say you're wrong. It DEPENDS ON PURPOSE of th sd card. For me a class 10 card does it much better than my class 4 and 6 card. A "SanDisk Class 10 or higher" won't slow your device in any case...
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its just my personal opinion .....! actually i performed a random read write test on on class 4,6,10 and found that they almost have same RDRW speed ....as a techno- economic i would like to recommend a class 4 sd card for an average user if his/her device doesn't support 1080p video . is it be good to recommended it.....!?? because so many people asked me about this that what would be best for them in economic range ..........because here in india Rupee 1000 saving can change their device preference .......
thanks

rishav754 said:
its just my personal opinion .....! actually i performed a random read write test on on class 4,6,10 and found that they almost have same RDRW speed ....as a techno- economic i would like to recommend a class 4 sd card for an average user if his/her device doesn't support 1080p video . is it be good to recommended it.....!?? because so many people asked me about this that what would be best for them in economic range ..........because here in india Rupee 1000 saving can change their device preference .......
thanks
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In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster

LS.xD said:
In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster
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thanks

LS.xD said:
In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster
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benchmark result
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html

rishav754 said:
benchmark result
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
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Dated "NOVEMBER 9, 2011" --> Probably NOT representative for actual purchases lol

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Best 16gb sd card for apps2sd?

ok i got a nexus one and im using apps2sd I want more memory like 16gb I can get a class 2 for like 40 bucks but im under the impression that i need a class 4 or 6 what's the best for the money or should I just get the class 2? I mean im using a class 2 card now and I've had no problems with it
I cant seem to find a higher class card. I would really love one. Right now i have a class 4 4gig. I would also love an upgrade soon
For linux swap on the SD card you'd want a higher class card, but is it really critical for Apps2SD? Most of the Class 2 cards have a fairly respectable read speed - it's the write speed where they fall down. The main area you might notice a slower card would be on installing new apps. I'm not sure if your Apps2SD solution includes storing app data on the card, but the performance impact of that would depend on how much data the app keeps locally.
flarbear said:
For linux swap on the SD card you'd want a higher class card, but is it really critical for Apps2SD? Most of the Class 2 cards have a fairly respectable read speed - it's the write speed where they fall down. The main area you might notice a slower card would be on installing new apps. I'm not sure if your Apps2SD solution includes storing app data on the card, but the performance impact of that would depend on how much data the app keeps locally.
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K I think I get it...... I'm using cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3 with amon_ra's recovery 1.70 what card would be ideal with this setup?
out of personal experience has anybody had any problems with just using a class 2 card?
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
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Thanks! Ive never heard of this brand has anybody used a sd card made by "a-data" specifically for apps2sd? Feedback on this item would help me decide to take the plunge
If not i guess I'll still get it someone has to go first right?
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
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That's the one I have, but it was cheaper at Amazon.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
popophobia said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
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Thanks that does seem like the best for its price
Nice find man
popophobia said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
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Couldn't find any info about international shipping? Anyone know if they send abroad?
/Rune
dudeldei said:
Couldn't find any info about international shipping? Anyone know if they send abroad?
/Rune
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no...newegg does not ship overseas
btw i use the 16gb a-data card and have no issues at all...it a much better price point compared to the newer 32gb cards at over 200 bucks
I'm using a class 2 16Gb SanDisk card and haven't had any issues with it.
Write speed can be a little slow, as someone mentioned. So installing large apps can take a little longer.
The /data directory is still on the internal storage, not on the card.
I don't have a Swap partition on my card either.
Music, movies, games, and apps have all been fine using app2sd on CM 5.0.5.3.
I got the Ridata class 6 from newegg when it was available for $48. reviews/speed are good.
mindfrost82 said:
I'm using a class 2 16Gb SanDisk card and haven't had any issues with it.
Write speed can be a little slow, as someone mentioned. So installing large apps can take a little longer.
The /data directory is still on the internal storage, not on the card.
I don't have a Swap partition on my card either.
Music, movies, games, and apps have all been fine using app2sd on CM 5.0.5.3.
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Damn...wish I saw your post..2 days earlier...I was contemplating on getting a class 2...Oh, well...Now I wish I didn't see your post! LoL
I recently was looking for a fast MicroSDHC card and greatly considered Kingston's CLASS 10 card. Pricey, but should be fast.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139120
Ultimately I settled for an 8GB Transcend, Class 6. I need to wait for the costs to come down on the larger, faster cards.
SurrealNetworks said:
I recently was looking for a fast MicroSDHC card and greatly considered Kingston's CLASS 10 card. Pricey, but should be fast.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139120
Ultimately I settled for an 8GB Transcend, Class 6. I need to wait for the costs to come down on the larger, faster cards.
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Thats cheap, here in DK it cost 137,40 $ for the Kingston class 10

[Q] What class is my micro sd card?

Hi all,
This should be a quick answer...
How do I know what class my micro sd card is? Its a San Disk 8Gb. Can I assume the little 2 in a circle is the class? Would I be better getting a class 6 card?
Thanks.
Owen.
corect the number in the circle is the class. I running a class 6 samsung and in all honesty no earth shattering diff in 99% of thing phone can do
Owendavies said:
Hi all,
This should be a quick answer...
How do I know what class my micro sd card is? Its a San Disk 8Gb. Can I assume the little 2 in a circle is the class? Would I be better getting a class 6 card?
Thanks.
Owen.
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quick answer, yes it's (potentially) faster
However my Sandisk memory card doesn't have circle and number. Then how can l find out which class it is?
this is going to be hard for you to find out.. so let me try to be clear as possible and god help you with the steps.
first . you pull your memory card out...................
..................
read the number -_-
terzer said:
However my Sandisk memory card doesn't have circle and number. Then how can l find out which class it is?
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Hello terzer,
without number on the card only a transfer test can give you an answer.
When you have an adapter to use the card with your pc card reader, you
can stop the time to transfer e.g. 100 MB to the card. Devide the 100 MB
by the time and you have the writing transfer rate (e.g. for 10 s:
100 MB / 10 s = 10 MByte / s ), repeate this with reading the 100 MB
back and you have the reading transfer rate.
Class 2 - 2 MB/s minimum writing
Class 4 - 4 MB/s minimum writing
Class 6 - 6 MB/s minimum writing
Class 10 - 10 MB/s minimum writing
Stop time after finished copy process - pc somtimes uses write cache
and displays multiple of real rate.
WBR peschi
There's a sd card speed tester on the market. I forget the exact name. Try that to find your class.
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I test transfer speeds with "J Disk Benchmark". No idea if it's the best or anything, but it gets the job done and it's free
jambamkin said:
There's a sd card speed tester on the market. I forget the exact name. Try that to find your class.
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It's "SD Card Speed Test". I guess someone with a huge imagination named it
Just ordered a new 16Gb Class 10 Transcend card from 7dayshop.com £16.45 delivered
Just have to wait an age for RM to deliver it, over Christmas.
Grantzxr said:
corect the number in the circle is the class. I running a class 6 samsung and in all honesty no earth shattering diff in 99% of thing phone can do
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where did you get a class 6 from is it a 16gb class 6?
tmh said:
I test transfer speeds with "J Disk Benchmark". No idea if it's the best or anything, but it gets the job done and it's free
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this will be far more accurate than the class rating on the card and you can really compare cards decisively
Hmmm just used "J Disk Benchmark" to test my SD CARD it suposed to be a 16 GB class 4 . read speed 2,4 MB write speed 1,4 MB so its more a class 2 than a class 4 card !!
My 8gb class 4 Samsung maxed out 6 Mbs transfer speed last night.
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Aamir.Badat said:
My 8gb class 4 Samsung maxed out 6 Mbs transfer speed last night.
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Did you use J Disk Benchmark ? if so wich settings ?
Nop just was moving 2 movies which were 1.3-1.5gb each and when checked how many Mbs were being transferred every sec it was showing 6.
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A good memory card ???

Can anyone recommend a good priced 32gb card prefer class 6 or above
E=Mc2
leith51 said:
Can anyone recommend a good priced 32gb card prefer class 6 or above
E=Mc2
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You beat me to it... I was gonna post a similar post... LOL
Actually if someone could point out the differences in the classes and which one is "recommended" on the DHD?? I would also like a 16Gig...
And how to check what class I have on the DHD now?
Cheers!
I can answer The class thing the higher the class the faster it reads and writes which it recommends nothing below a class 4 for hd video recording at present in got a 16gb class 6 works great just wanting more space
E=Mc2
And how do I know what class is my SD?
prateekgujral said:
And how do I know what class is my SD?
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if you check on sdcard the is a number in a circle thats the class of sdcard
cattleprod said:
if you check on sdcard the is a number in a circle thats the class of sdcard
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Its so small that I am unable to check LOL.. need glasses i guess..
prateekgujral said:
Its so small that I am unable to check LOL.. need glasses i guess..
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haha sounds like you might need some but how to know what class it is.
if you want a good sd card get kingston but the not cheap but they can come back a live!! as awhile ago i flashed a rom and the kingston sdcard die on me...so left it a week try it and worked!!
it was like jesus lol
cattleprod said:
haha sounds like you might need some but how to know what class it is.
if you want a good sd card get kingston but the not cheap but they can come back a live!! as awhile ago i flashed a rom and the kingston sdcard die on me...so left it a week try it and worked!!
it was like jesus lol
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yeah.. but in India its hard to find good cards as everything is duplicated easily..
prateekgujral said:
yeah.. but in India its hard to find good cards as everything is duplicated easily..
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yeah true would make it harder to now if you getting real deal, probly only way to know your getting what you ask for is import from a decent website. but you can always test the class of sd card by it transfer speed on pc as a class 6 should be able to transfer at around 6mb/sec if im right. but can your pc read/write at 6mb/sec i know mine can't lol
I'm pretty sure mine does... an i7
*Sent from my HTC Desire HD
I have a 32gb class 4 and its perfect for everything, not noticed any slow-downs and HD recording is fine. I couldn't find any class 6 when I was looking but no regrets getting a 4, will transfer a mp3 album in a few seconds (if that's any measure). Cost me £56. It's by integral
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leith51 said:
I can answer The class thing the higher the class the faster it reads and writes which it recommends nothing below a class 4 for hd video recording at present in got a 16gb class 6 works great just wanting more space
E=Mc2
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The class shows the minimum read/write speed of the card as shown below
Rating Read (Mb/s) Write (MB/s) Class
13× 16.0 2 2
26× 32.0 4 4
40× 48.0 6 6
66× 80.0 10 10
It is possible that a Name brand class 6 card, could out perfom a no name class 10 card as the speeds are minimum, I would tend to avoid anything slower than class 4 as it MAY introduce lag involving SD read/write operations​
To those who have 32gb cards, what brands are they?
Contemplating between transcend and sandisk. transcend is a bit cheaper though. I just dont know anyone who can vouch for transcend.
I bought one from MyMemory.co.uk, just their own branded ones was about £52 class 4 couldn't be happier with it
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HTC website for Desire HD specs says:
Expansion slot:
* microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
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On looking up the official standards of MicroSD cards http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdhc/ it only talks about differences in speed ratings such as class 2, class 4 ect. So I assume that HTC are advertising the Desire HD as only supporting class 2 MicroSD cards. I would like to know if anyone can confirm if using the USB cable to transfer data to a PC is actually getting faster speeds using a higher class MicroSD card than class 2 standards?
HTC isn't saying that the DHD supports class 2 only it just doesn't specify. (the micro-sd 2.0 thing is completely different to what you're thinking about the 2.0 means it supports micro-SDHC not that it supports class 2 only. and about the speed difference, I have a class 2 8GB micro-SDHC and that writes at 2MB/s and reads at 4MB/s, a class 4 16GB that writes at 4MB/s and reads at 5MB/s, and finally a class 10 32GB that writes at 12MB/s and reads at 15MB/s. (All tested on my Desire HD) So there is a HUGE difference between classes 2 , 4 and 10 when copying through USB.
Hello,
what class 10 32GB do you have?
best regards huggy
It's a Kingston. I would tell you the model number but I chucked the rubbish away.
I bought a Toshiba 16gb class 4 and I am completely satisfacted in comparison with the stock (samsung) ! It's faster and more reliable !!!
wiseman95 said:
It's a Kingston. I would tell you the model number but I chucked the rubbish away.
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Not surprised you chucked it away, Kingston Class 10's only go up to 16 GB lol

Is my SD card good for Data2SD ?

I have a samsung mini sdcard class 2 on my HTC desire.
Read : 20MB/s
Write : 5MB/s
measured by an Sd test app.
I notice some lag while trying the amarullz data2sd in some apps. but not sure if other sdcard can improve the speed
As I read around, the difference between my card and other higher class is only the Write speed. Is it true ? and does it matter ? because for app i think it only needs to read the data to the memory most of the time.
I would like to confirm this before buying a new sdcard. Thanks

Which SSD Cards for DS

Which SSD cards will work with and are best suited for the Desire S?
At the moment I have a 2Gb Scan disk that came with the phone and I want to get a 32Gb if preferable but want better speeds.
BigPickle80 said:
Which SSD cards will work with and are best suited for the Desire S?
At the moment I have a 2Gb Scan disk that came with the phone and I want to get a 32Gb if preferable but want better speeds.
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It isn't an SSD (Solid-State Disk) card - it is a microSD card. HUGE difference
From experience - and what I seem to remember being posted here before - there is no real point in going above a Class 6 card. I am running a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 and it is more than good enough for storage, music, photos etc.
SimonTS said:
It isn't an SSD (Solid-State Disk) card - it is a microSD card. HUGE difference
From experience - and what I seem to remember being posted here before - there is no real point in going above a Class 6 card. I am running a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 and it is more than good enough for storage, music, photos etc.
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Hah yeah that's what i meant, micro SD lol Thanks for the advice too
SimonTS said:
It isn't an SSD (Solid-State Disk) card - it is a microSD card. HUGE difference
From experience - and what I seem to remember being posted here before - there is no real point in going above a Class 6 card. I am running a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 and it is more than good enough for storage, music, photos etc.
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So getting a class 10 won't help with access/write speeds? Is there any specific reason as to why you say so?
DieLyn said:
So getting a class 10 won't help with access/write speeds? Is there any specific reason as to why you say so?
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Have a search through the DS forums as I can't be bothered to do it for you. I seem to remember that anything faster than a Class 6 is wasted as the DS can't actually read/write any faster than that.
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Have a search through the DS forums as I can't be bothered to do it for you. I seem to remember that anything faster than a Class 6 is wasted as the DS can't actually read/write any faster than that.
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It is pointless to have such cards in a phone, who needs to handle small files randomly. Class 10 and 6 are designed to write/read large files quickly (photography).
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