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Stock 1GB card safe for Apps2SD?

Can I setup Apps2SD on my stock 1gb or will the card be too slow?

Well i dont know but i dont think so. Alot of people in these forums told me and other people that a class 2 8gb would cause problems and would slow down my device, but i guess there wrong because im pushing this card to its limit with no lags and no probs. So i will tell you, go ahead and use what you got.

I wouldn't I would go with a class 6 card at least if you want to put apps on a SDcard.

as long as it has a write/read speed of over 6mbs your fine to use that. so just bench it and find out for yourself. you dont want anything slower than 4mb.
read this thread, tons of info on write speeds and benching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500931

kevdawg said:
Can I setup Apps2SD on my stock 1gb or will the card be too slow?
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I did it for the past 4 months and haven't had any problems whatsoever. I was also running cache to sd as well. You won't notice as much of a performance boost, but you will notice a boost, since you have alot more memory available on the phone.

I actually did it this morning with my stock 1GB sd card. Everything is peachy

speoples20 said:
I wouldn't I would go with a class 6 card at least if you want to put apps on a SDcard.
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I got apps2sd on my 8gb. I see what you saying, but budget wise hes probably just trying to use what he has. I have a class 2 8gb and i habe no probs when i sent my apps and cache to my sd. But if he has the money i would recommend the 6 class 8gb also.

Nikeem24 said:
I got apps2sd on my 8gb. I see what you saying, but budget wise hes probably just trying to use what he has. I have a class 2 8gb and i habe no probs when i sent my apps and cache to my sd. But if he has the money i would recommend the 6 class 8gb also.
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Exactly just trying to save a buck or two while I test it before going for a class 6. Thanks everyone for your comments.

I Also have a 4g class 2 SD card with well over 60 apps installed, along with my dalvik-cache. I have 65mb free on my phone and My phone runs amazing. I'm sure that the Class six would load apps faster due to the higher flash memory. But I have no experienced a single problem with my 4g class 2 card.

Neither have I.

If you guys do a test on the mSD you would find out that the stock card is actually a Class 6. Enjoy

update
Just thought I'd post back here to let you know that I got my Apps moved over pefectly to my stock card with no problems. Thanks again for all your help. I hope to pick up a class 6 8gb card soon! .

serialtoon said:
If you guys do a test on the mSD you would find out that the stock card is actually a Class 6. Enjoy
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Thats good to hear but i thought classes were specs for sdhc cards only?

Buy a good SD Card
I bought a 4gb class 6 card, and when i partition it to do apps to sd it doesnt work and corrupts the disk. so make sure you buy a quality card, as I am now going to buy a better card so I can do apps to sd.
go to newegg.com that is where i am going to get mine, and choose sandisk, A-data or kingston or another quality sd card. 4gb or more is what i've seen suggested, i am going to get the 8gb, there's one i found for 20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341
good luck!

bleulady82 said:
I bought a 4gb class 6 card, and when i partition it to do apps to sd it doesnt work and corrupts the disk. so make sure you buy a quality card, as I am now going to buy a better card so I can do apps to sd.
go to newegg.com that is where i am going to get mine, and choose sandisk, A-data or kingston or another quality sd card. 4gb or more is what i've seen suggested, i am going to get the 8gb, there's one i found for 20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341
good luck!
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i'm picking this card up now too so thank you! i figure it's time i get on the bandwagon with all this apps2sd talk!!

bleulady82 said:
I bought a 4gb class 6 card, and when i partition it to do apps to sd it doesnt work and corrupts the disk. so make sure you buy a quality card, as I am now going to buy a better card so I can do apps to sd.
go to newegg.com that is where i am going to get mine, and choose sandisk, A-data or kingston or another quality sd card. 4gb or more is what i've seen suggested, i am going to get the 8gb, there's one i found for 20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341
good luck!
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FYI
MicroCenter has 8gb class 6 cards for $15 if you have one in the area. I bought mine back in october...no problems at all.

A good memory card ???

Can anyone recommend a good priced 32gb card prefer class 6 or above
E=Mc2

leith51 said:
Can anyone recommend a good priced 32gb card prefer class 6 or above
E=Mc2
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You beat me to it... I was gonna post a similar post... LOL
Actually if someone could point out the differences in the classes and which one is "recommended" on the DHD?? I would also like a 16Gig...
And how to check what class I have on the DHD now?
Cheers!

I can answer The class thing the higher the class the faster it reads and writes which it recommends nothing below a class 4 for hd video recording at present in got a 16gb class 6 works great just wanting more space
E=Mc2

And how do I know what class is my SD?

prateekgujral said:
And how do I know what class is my SD?
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if you check on sdcard the is a number in a circle thats the class of sdcard

cattleprod said:
if you check on sdcard the is a number in a circle thats the class of sdcard
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Its so small that I am unable to check LOL.. need glasses i guess..

prateekgujral said:
Its so small that I am unable to check LOL.. need glasses i guess..
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haha sounds like you might need some but how to know what class it is.
if you want a good sd card get kingston but the not cheap but they can come back a live!! as awhile ago i flashed a rom and the kingston sdcard die on me...so left it a week try it and worked!!
it was like jesus lol

cattleprod said:
haha sounds like you might need some but how to know what class it is.
if you want a good sd card get kingston but the not cheap but they can come back a live!! as awhile ago i flashed a rom and the kingston sdcard die on me...so left it a week try it and worked!!
it was like jesus lol
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yeah.. but in India its hard to find good cards as everything is duplicated easily..

prateekgujral said:
yeah.. but in India its hard to find good cards as everything is duplicated easily..
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yeah true would make it harder to now if you getting real deal, probly only way to know your getting what you ask for is import from a decent website. but you can always test the class of sd card by it transfer speed on pc as a class 6 should be able to transfer at around 6mb/sec if im right. but can your pc read/write at 6mb/sec i know mine can't lol

I'm pretty sure mine does... an i7
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I have a 32gb class 4 and its perfect for everything, not noticed any slow-downs and HD recording is fine. I couldn't find any class 6 when I was looking but no regrets getting a 4, will transfer a mp3 album in a few seconds (if that's any measure). Cost me £56. It's by integral
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leith51 said:
I can answer The class thing the higher the class the faster it reads and writes which it recommends nothing below a class 4 for hd video recording at present in got a 16gb class 6 works great just wanting more space
E=Mc2
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The class shows the minimum read/write speed of the card as shown below
Rating Read (Mb/s) Write (MB/s) Class
13× 16.0 2 2
26× 32.0 4 4
40× 48.0 6 6
66× 80.0 10 10
It is possible that a Name brand class 6 card, could out perfom a no name class 10 card as the speeds are minimum, I would tend to avoid anything slower than class 4 as it MAY introduce lag involving SD read/write operations​

To those who have 32gb cards, what brands are they?
Contemplating between transcend and sandisk. transcend is a bit cheaper though. I just dont know anyone who can vouch for transcend.

I bought one from MyMemory.co.uk, just their own branded ones was about £52 class 4 couldn't be happier with it
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HTC website for Desire HD specs says:
Expansion slot:
* microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
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On looking up the official standards of MicroSD cards http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdhc/ it only talks about differences in speed ratings such as class 2, class 4 ect. So I assume that HTC are advertising the Desire HD as only supporting class 2 MicroSD cards. I would like to know if anyone can confirm if using the USB cable to transfer data to a PC is actually getting faster speeds using a higher class MicroSD card than class 2 standards?

HTC isn't saying that the DHD supports class 2 only it just doesn't specify. (the micro-sd 2.0 thing is completely different to what you're thinking about the 2.0 means it supports micro-SDHC not that it supports class 2 only. and about the speed difference, I have a class 2 8GB micro-SDHC and that writes at 2MB/s and reads at 4MB/s, a class 4 16GB that writes at 4MB/s and reads at 5MB/s, and finally a class 10 32GB that writes at 12MB/s and reads at 15MB/s. (All tested on my Desire HD) So there is a HUGE difference between classes 2 , 4 and 10 when copying through USB.

Hello,
what class 10 32GB do you have?
best regards huggy

It's a Kingston. I would tell you the model number but I chucked the rubbish away.

I bought a Toshiba 16gb class 4 and I am completely satisfacted in comparison with the stock (samsung) ! It's faster and more reliable !!!

wiseman95 said:
It's a Kingston. I would tell you the model number but I chucked the rubbish away.
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Not surprised you chucked it away, Kingston Class 10's only go up to 16 GB lol

Micro SDHC Card Speed

I heard there was a 32GB Card included with the thunderbolt. The 6GB card on my Droid X was only class 4, so I replaced it with a class 10. Anybody heard anything about the speed on the card included with the Thunderbolt?
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newalker91 said:
A card of that capacity will more than likely be a Class 2. I can't see them putting anything more than that in the phone considering the price and that 32GB microSD card's are far from openly available as it is.
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It's actually class 4. :]

From what ive seen and heard is that its not neccesarily the class that determins the speed as it is the manufacturer. Sandisk from my understanding has the fastest cards out and that is in part why you pay a premium price for them. My buddy bought a 16gb class 10 , I honestly do not remember the manufacturer, and his old 8gb class 4 sandisk is way faster according to him. He was pretty pissed after finding that out.

I have a 32 gb Sandisk (class 2) in my Inc and I store all of my music and video on it.
I even have a couple of full 2 hour videos on it. I experience no lag or any other issues with it.
I have also installed the "Let's Golf 2" app from the leaked TB RUU on it and it runs flawlessly.
The only place where the speed is any issue for me is putting large files on the card, it is slow. But once the files are there the read speed is fine.
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As far as Sandisk over the last 5 years I have had 3 cards corrupt themselves and die. Usually it is within 6 months.
Since I switched to Kingston branded cards. From what I understand they are also sandisk but the batches that didn't meet standards for Sandisk themselves.
Anyway I've had this 16GB Kingston for well over a year and works faster than the Sandisk.
If any card would fail it would be running XDAndroid off the sd card like I am now.

how do you test theres cards without paying?

psycho_maniac said:
how do you test theres cards without paying?
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There are a number of benchmark software suites that do it. I like to use Sandra. And h2bench at http://www.assimilateinc.com/tools1.html

andydumi said:
There are a number of benchmark software suites that do it. I like to use Sandra. And h2bench at http://www.assimilateinc.com/tools1.html
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i couldnt download it

Whatever class it comes with will be fine for me. I just can't wait for the xtra 16gb of storage. I know for most people that 16 is plenty, but with all the roms on my 16gb card, and switching it between my fascinate and incredible plus my 5gb of music that 16gb disappears quickly. I do like having the 8gb internal of the droid x but undone ever see myself using it all until androids apps get more polished, and with polish they will grow in size very fast. I can't wait til we has a preloaded maps that can work without cell signal!!! Go tbolt!

Recommended 32GB Speedy microSD?

What would you guys recommend as a speedy and stable 32GB microSD card for the Galaxy S 4G? I was looking at the Patriot LX Series on Newegg but the relatively poor reviews concern me.

Given the pricing at this time, I'd go with an 8 GB, Class 6 card and wait for prices to drop on even the 16 GB, Class 6
32 GB or Class 10? IMHO waaaay too expensive at this time. Are you really writing that much data that often? The read speeds of even the Class 2 card that the SGS4G shipped with is comparable to Class 6 cards.
I've had good luck with the Transcend cards -- Class 6, 8 GB ~$18, 16 GB ~$55

well I am down to about 3GB on my stock 16GB class 2 card so I am definitely looking at 32GB microsd cards only.
I am honestly not particularly concerned about the price and I'd be willing to pay up to $200 for one as long as it is fast and stable. My current class 2 card is quite slow when loading applications and when looking through things like my pictures gallery which is stored on the card as well.

Go to Pricegrabber's website and input the following part number - TS16GUSDHC6-P3
16GB Transcend microSDHC going for 125.00 Class 6 device I am getting it...

nycplayboy78 said:
Go to Pricegrabber's website and input the following part number - TS16GUSDHC6-P3
16GB Transcend microSDHC going for 125.00 Class 6 device I am getting it...
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What does the -P3 buy you? The TS16GUSDHC6E card is only $55 at Amazon
Transcend's site doesn't suggest that there are tiered performance based on the suffix.

Yangorang said:
What would you guys recommend as a speedy and stable 32GB microSD card for the Galaxy S 4G? I was looking at the Patriot LX Series on Newegg but the relatively poor reviews concern me.
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I was looking at that one too... Anyone know if that brand is any good i've never heard from them before...
i'm also looking into getting a 32GB sd card but i want fast and well 32GB... i dont mind if its costly but has to be good for the job...
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Patriot is some of the best PC Ram and SSDHD's you can buy for PC's. So I would assume based on the fact it's similar tech that their microSD's would be of similar top notch quality.

heartspains88 said:
Patriot is some of the best PC Ram and SSDHD's you can buy for PC's. So I would assume based on the fact it's similar tech that their microSD's would be of similar top notch quality.
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thanks for the info man... i didnt know that...
i give you a +1 because i cant find the thanks button on the app :!
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gohere, I got one and it works good

I was lucky and just got a 16gb micro sd card from Radio Shack for 25$ yesterday. They seem to have the best sales so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Komputerbay-M...EEHI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1307229858&sr=8-8
hows that?

Lower class means faster speeds or opposite?

Eric-1987 said:
Lower class means faster speeds or opposite?
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lower is slower

How much slower? And do you know the class of the SD card that came with the evo?

Best Buy had the 16gb Class 10 card for 49.99...Is that really a best buy or is it a sham?

Transcend
Yangorang said:
What would you guys recommend as a speedy and stable 32GB microSD card for the Galaxy S 4G? I was looking at the Patriot LX Series on Newegg but the relatively poor reviews concern me.
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I bought the Transcend 32GB Class 4 about 2 weeks ago and so far so good. It did about 4MB/s writing (upgraded from a Transcend 8GB class 6) while copying content from the older card (about 7GB of data). I watch movies from SD, move apps to SD, snap some picks and shoot videos without issues. This is all on a KG4 rom if that makes a difference.
If you are going to copy large files (like movies) all the time, a faster card might help but the Lexar's are dang expensive!
Hope this helps.
Mark

Go here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669 for a lot of useful information about 32 GB SD cards.
It seems for cellphones the sandisk 32 GB class 4 card seems to be the best performing for everyday use.
I hope this helps.

I have a Wintec class 10 and to be honest, its the way to go. Nothing beats the speed.

Just received my PNY 32gb class 10 the other day, and so far its blazing fast on Whitehawkx's Valhala ROM.
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crackpot said:
Just received my PNY 32gb class 10 the other day, and so far its blazing fast on Whitehawkx's Valhala ROM.
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Glad you went with the class 10! Its a win for sure. Do an SD benchmark test and you'll be amazed at the results.

[Q] Microsd card 16 or 32GB ?

What sdcard can you recommend 16 or 32 GB? Of course I am considering only 16GB class 10 and 32 GB class 4.
I would like to know some points of view, like if it is useful to have 32GB rather than 16, how works the phone, I mean slower or normally with 32 and so on.
Thanks for your help

Well tell me this.. are you even using 16 or even 8gb of data on your micro sd card? 32 and 16 seem overkill.

Actually I have almost full my current 8GB, you know some ROMs for emulators ,some movies etc. so maybe 16 shall be ok.
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Sebalos said:
Actually I have almost full my current 8GB, you know some ROMs for emulators ,some movies etc. so maybe 16 shall be ok.
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My advice is that if you can afford to pay for a good 32gb from genuine traders, then go for a 32gb. It will save you the trouble of buying a 32gb sooner than later.
I have a 32gb on both my winmo and on my DZ. Can record without crossing everything for fear of running out of space.

YOSEFE said:
My advice is that if you can afford to pay for a good 32gb from genuine traders, then go for a 32gb. It will save you the trouble of buying a 32gb sooner than later.
I have a 32gb on both my winmo and on my DZ. Can record without crossing everything for fear of running out of space.
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Ok ,as i know the newest is 32GB class 4, so i will buy that one.
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Sebalos said:
Ok ,as i know the newest is 32GB class 4, so i will buy that one.
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Be very careful if you buy from eBay. I bought a fake, but since I had paid using paypal, I got my money back.

if you're going 32gb, then I'll be assuming you'll be putting your music library in there.
I"m also in the market for a 32gb micro sd (maybe if i can get my paws on a class 10, but that's really dropping some serious money on it [atleast for me]) since my music library is at a scant 16gigs (maybe more, but i havne't checked) so I wouldn't mind 32gb so i have lots of leeway to get my stuff in there.

There is only one question here:
Music or no music?
If you have music on your phone, go for the 32GB.
If not, I'd go for the faster 16GB.

I just bought a 32GB Class 10 Patriot card for a little over $100 at Frys .
Definitely an improvement over the 16GB Class 2 I was using . Buy the best
once and never look back IMO

id say grab a kingston 8gb class 10, just got mine for 19.99 ill wait on a 32 class 10 when they're not so obscenly priced..
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AZ2ENVY said:
I just bought a 32GB Class 10 Patriot card for a little over $100 at Frys .
Definitely an improvement over the 16GB Class 2 I was using . Buy the best
once and never look back IMO
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I have one of these too, make SURE you follow the format instructions on patriots forums otherwise the card is going to go tits up and corrupt all your data once it stores over 16GB of data. There are "issues" with newer android/wm7 phones and patriot class 10 32gb microsd cards (they admit its true). Their current workaround/fix is to format it a specific way WITHOUT LBA and with 32k clusters.
I haven't tried it yet since, I said screw it, and went back to my 16GB a-data class 6. I lost all my data on the patriot 3 times and using my phone for music is not that important.
Other people on that forum say the "fix" works though so it may benefit you to format it per the instructions if you haven't already and you are worried about data loss.
I put the 32gb patriot card in my dslite so my daughter has more games to play. She's 6 and is beyond happy with all the stuff on it now. Anyways, here are the two important threads over on patriots website for the 32gb class 10 LX card.
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6332
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http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6362

ratchetrizzo said:
I have one of these too, make SURE you follow the format instructions on patriots forums otherwise the card is going to go tits up and corrupt all your data once it stores over 16GB of data. There are "issues" with newer android/wm7 phones and patriot class 10 32gb microsd cards (they admit its true). Their current workaround/fix is to format it a specific way WITHOUT LBA and with 32k clusters.
I haven't tried it yet since, I said screw it, and went back to my 16GB a-data class 6. I lost all my data on the patriot 3 times and using my phone for music is not that important.
Other people on that forum say the "fix" works though so it may benefit you to format it per the instructions if you haven't already and you are worried about data loss.
I put the 32gb patriot card in my dslite so my daughter has more games to play. She's 6 and is beyond happy with all the stuff on it now. Anyways, here are the two important threads over on patriots website for the 32gb class 10 LX card.
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6332
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http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6362
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Wow I had no idea ! Thank you very much for the heads up ! I will be returning
it tomorrow .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211519
I just bought that, wanted a class 10 32GB, but not for $100, that's insanely over priced.

brfield said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211519
I just bought that, wanted a class 10 32GB, but not for $100, that's insanely over priced.
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I didn't notice enough of a speed difference between the class 10 and class 6 on my g2 anyway. I DO, however, notice a difference in speed when I use the class 10 card on my ds lite. Certain games don't stutter or freeze with it.

Ok i have bought 32GB class 4 Kingston for some about 90USD. As i had been reading i have found the highest class 4 for 32 instead class 10 :/ so i was too fast.
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ratchetrizzo said:
I didn't notice enough of a speed difference between the class 10 and class 6 on my g2 anyway. I DO, however, notice a difference in speed when I use the class 10 card on my ds lite. Certain games don't stutter or freeze with it.
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Good to know, because I have an AceKard 2i and the original DS.
But if yo go to the Dev section, there is a mod to increase the cache sizes and boost read rates profoundly.

i found you a 16gb sandisk(none of that fake chinese stuff) for 25 with free shipping,im thinking of getting one cuz my 8gb isnt cutting it no more(alot of music and pics),hope this helps
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sandisk-16GB-Mi...gital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2eb39bcf19