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I'm about to Root my phone and do the Apps2SD.
Will a Class 4 be fast enough?
The 16gb class 6 is about $50. That's just too much for me. that'll put the cost for this phone to be +$600 (529+20 for case + 50 for card).
There's a 16gb Kingston class 4 on amazon for $30.
Just wanna make sure I don't waste money on this and the apps all lag or something.
Thanks guys.
class 2 should be just fine. cards of different classes only differ in their write speed but not their read speed. AFAIK, there's no Android app that needs write speed faster than the one provided by class 2.
The only advantage of class 4/6: they might be faster when transferring files from your computer to your N1's SD card via USB.
noodles12 said:
I'm about to Root my phone and do the Apps2SD.
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Why do you need Apps2SD? Have you run out of space already?
stewart1988 said:
Why do you need Apps2SD? Have you run out of space already?
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well i would run out of space too.. if i install another 20 mb game ill be all out. only have about 30 mb left and have to clear cache now and then ..
Hi all,
This should be a quick answer...
How do I know what class my micro sd card is? Its a San Disk 8Gb. Can I assume the little 2 in a circle is the class? Would I be better getting a class 6 card?
Thanks.
Owen.
corect the number in the circle is the class. I running a class 6 samsung and in all honesty no earth shattering diff in 99% of thing phone can do
Owendavies said:
Hi all,
This should be a quick answer...
How do I know what class my micro sd card is? Its a San Disk 8Gb. Can I assume the little 2 in a circle is the class? Would I be better getting a class 6 card?
Thanks.
Owen.
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quick answer, yes it's (potentially) faster
However my Sandisk memory card doesn't have circle and number. Then how can l find out which class it is?
this is going to be hard for you to find out.. so let me try to be clear as possible and god help you with the steps.
first . you pull your memory card out...................
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read the number -_-
terzer said:
However my Sandisk memory card doesn't have circle and number. Then how can l find out which class it is?
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Hello terzer,
without number on the card only a transfer test can give you an answer.
When you have an adapter to use the card with your pc card reader, you
can stop the time to transfer e.g. 100 MB to the card. Devide the 100 MB
by the time and you have the writing transfer rate (e.g. for 10 s:
100 MB / 10 s = 10 MByte / s ), repeate this with reading the 100 MB
back and you have the reading transfer rate.
Class 2 - 2 MB/s minimum writing
Class 4 - 4 MB/s minimum writing
Class 6 - 6 MB/s minimum writing
Class 10 - 10 MB/s minimum writing
Stop time after finished copy process - pc somtimes uses write cache
and displays multiple of real rate.
WBR peschi
There's a sd card speed tester on the market. I forget the exact name. Try that to find your class.
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I test transfer speeds with "J Disk Benchmark". No idea if it's the best or anything, but it gets the job done and it's free
jambamkin said:
There's a sd card speed tester on the market. I forget the exact name. Try that to find your class.
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It's "SD Card Speed Test". I guess someone with a huge imagination named it
Just ordered a new 16Gb Class 10 Transcend card from 7dayshop.com £16.45 delivered
Just have to wait an age for RM to deliver it, over Christmas.
Grantzxr said:
corect the number in the circle is the class. I running a class 6 samsung and in all honesty no earth shattering diff in 99% of thing phone can do
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where did you get a class 6 from is it a 16gb class 6?
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I test transfer speeds with "J Disk Benchmark". No idea if it's the best or anything, but it gets the job done and it's free
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this will be far more accurate than the class rating on the card and you can really compare cards decisively
Hmmm just used "J Disk Benchmark" to test my SD CARD it suposed to be a 16 GB class 4 . read speed 2,4 MB write speed 1,4 MB so its more a class 2 than a class 4 card !!
My 8gb class 4 Samsung maxed out 6 Mbs transfer speed last night.
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Aamir.Badat said:
My 8gb class 4 Samsung maxed out 6 Mbs transfer speed last night.
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Did you use J Disk Benchmark ? if so wich settings ?
Nop just was moving 2 movies which were 1.3-1.5gb each and when checked how many Mbs were being transferred every sec it was showing 6.
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I see here a lot questions about memory cards so:
Ace 2 internal memory have read up to 30MB/s so :
http://m.mymemory.co.uk/product?p=41391 that card is ok, have also up to 30MB/s and is cheap.
That card is the best and we dont need faster :
http://m.mymemory.co.uk/product?p=41591
She have up to 95MB/s read.
I have both and on first card I dont have lags in games but on that secund card loading times in games are impressive.
When you do a swap remember about minimum 30MB/s read in card which you want buy. Capacity of storage is your choice and it dont have meaning on speed of that card.
What card do you have guys?
(I sorry for mistakes in text but my english is weak)
But why do you need that strong cards, r/w speed is just when you are transfering some files (also speed can depend on usb port or card reader), i personally have class 4 card and dont need any better. I didn't experience lag in games or something like that.
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On class 4 I cant play in vice city on full details ( on class 10 I can) A lot of games have lags on class 4. Games like : Amazing spiderman, gta vice city, gangstar 3, etc... and other wheare is a lot of data transfering and is open world.
Simply turn on vice city on FULL setings and you get a big lags ( freez on 2,3 secunds ) This is only on class 4, too much data dump because that card cant hendle it ( IF YOU HAVE SWAP )
Few days ago i downloaded gta vice city and on full details i have around 25fps (aprox.)
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Me not. Only on 10 class. My system is sloooow on class 4 to slow writing in some pleace.
You can check it. Instal gta 3 on internal memory and turn it on on full details ( lights, better tekstures etc...) and you dont get lags but then do that same on class 4... (you get lags,litle but lags)
Amazing spiderman - is not playable on class 4 (JB/GB) but with good class 10 and JB you can play it on medium settings. Not allways people need that but I have from people ~10 questions about it on xda on each day so I write my opinion here.I write it from my experiance.
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Me not. Only on 10 class. My system is sloooow on class 4 to slow writing in some pleace.
You can check it. Instal gta 3 on internal memory and turn it on on full details ( lights, better tekstures etc...) and you dont get lags but then do that same on class 4... (you get lags,litle but lags)
Amazing spiderman - is not playable on class 4 (JB/GB) but with good class 10 and JB you can play it on medium settings. Not allways people need that but I have from people ~10 questions about it on xda on each day so I write my opinion here.I write it from my experiance.
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hey man i have class 10 uhs memory card
i test it in anutu it read 15 mb
why?
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Its depands of card quality and what type and size of file use that aplication. I have tested my phone and cards on SD Tools.
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Today I bought a FlashRaptor MemoryTools 32GB class 10 Microsd for 20$.
I found a test where:
Write=22MB/s
Read=44MB/s
I think this is enough and cheap or?
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Very good, better than Ace 2 internal memory. Exelent card .
michal89chz said:
Very good, better than Ace 2 internal memory. Exelent card .
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what do u mean quality of card????????
i have sandisk ultra 10 class uhs
why i get screwed
baaaaaaaad luck
u guys have awesome memory cards
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My san disk ultra 8GB ten class uhs-1 I have 30MB/s. Test your in SD Tools and check how much MB per secund you have but remember about good patch ( dont test by chance internal memory )
michal89chz said:
My san disk ultra 8GB ten class uhs-1 I have 30MB/s. Test your in SD Tools and check how much MB per secund you have but remember about good patch ( dont test by chance internal memory )
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what u mean remeber about good patch?
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samer menla said:
what u mean remeber about good patch?
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when i bought this sdcard it says up to 30 mb/s
but i test it
reads:20mb
writes:11.3
is this why games are lagging with me???
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It can be. Ace 2 have 30MB/s ( SD Tools )
But it can by up to 30MB but on another files. Simply - on litle files like .pdf .jpg can be fast but slow on big files like movies. You can try that card on Windows in card reader with some tests programs
michal89chz said:
It can be. Ace 2 have 30MB/s ( SD Tools )
But it can by up to 30MB but on another files. Simply - on litle files like .pdf .jpg can be fast but slow on big files like movies. You can try that card on Windows in card reader with some tests programs
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so u think its fake or what?
is it good likeyours?
samer menla said:
so u think its fake or what?
is it good likeyours?
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I think if you also have a original card, there is no difference between your both.
Question: Are the massively lags, while and after installing an app, also caused by my class 4 card and modified vold.fstab?
I dont think because i have class 4 and everything runs smooth.
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I think if you also have a original card, there is no difference between your both.
Question: Are the massively lags, while and after installing an app, also caused by my class 4 card and modified vold.fstab?
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yes on class 4 is the same
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Rooobertinhooo said:
I dont think because i have class 4 and everything runs smooth.
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Do you have modified vold.fstab?
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yes on class 4 is the same
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Anyone can confirm on class 10?
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on my ace 2..i only use the DIRECTORY BIND .and link the game to the data folder on external sdcard..no swap will run..just linking...and the games that using Big Data is smooth and faster..
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ichiyamato said:
on my ace 2..i only use the DIRECTORY BIND .and link the game to the data folder on external sdcard..no swap will run..just linking...and the games that using Big Data is smooth and faster..
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Impossible. Try amazing spiderman on your sd card class 4 with directory bind
Hello my question is simple, everybody knows about fits low ram issue.
If i buy class 10 sd card (ex: 16gb), can i give 1 gb ram to phone with swap ?
Will it effect to performance ? System cpu speed enough but ram really low
Thx for answers...
amedra said:
Hello my question is simple, everybody knows about fits low ram issue.
If i buy class 10 sd card (ex: 16gb), can i give 1 gb ram to phone with swap ?
Will it effect to performance ? System cpu speed enough but ram really low
Thx for answers...
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You could use SD card with swap to extend the ram but it going to be dead within 2 weeks because of the exessive Reads/Writes
I did used for a couple of days a 10 class Sandisk of 8GB with swap enabled and did not impact so much on performance.
Today bought http://www.digitalversus.com/memory-card/lexar-micro-sdhc-32-gb-class-10-uhs-1-600x-p16172/test.html (not from amazon but same card), 512mb ext4 and 256mb for swap with CWM use... (I will use high values later )
Results are okay, everything faster than i imagine. A lot of cards have 2 year guarantee, like this one. If your card dead in 2 week like k3eNaNz said, you can change easily in my opinion ( so use local market). And developer said 7 years usage time...
However i'm so happy , i'll add more virtual ram to my fit without speed loss
1gb ram on galaxy fit not bad
amedra said:
Today bought http://www.digitalversus.com/memory-card/lexar-micro-sdhc-32-gb-class-10-uhs-1-600x-p16172/test.html (not from amazon but same card), 512mb ext4 and 256mb for swap with CWM use... (I will use high values later )
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However i'm so happy , i'll add more virtual ram to my fit without speed loss
1gb ram on galaxy fit not bad
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Can I do that with an 8gb SD!?
Aaaand, where's a noob guide on how to do it!?
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johnny208 said:
Can I do that with an 8gb SD!?
Aaaand, where's a noob guide on how to do it!?
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Yes a lot of class10 - 8gb microsd card around. Search in xda " clockworkmode swap" you can find many topic about this.
But remember, you should need class 10 or above sd card, ext4 and swap supported kernel too. ( so a lot of kernel and rom support these functions)
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Yes a lot of class10 - 8gb microsd card around. Search in xda " clockworkmode swap" you can find many topic about this.
But remember, you should need class 10 or above sd card, ext4 and swap supported kernel too. ( so a lot of kernel and rom support these functions)
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Just checked my SD... It's class 6
Time for a new one...
Thanks!
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I also use 32GB class 10 sdcard. But I'll never try swapping. Coz even if I do have backup on my laptop but windows 7 disonnects the sdcard during copy/paste via card reader. So in case my sdcard is dead by applying swap & I buy new one...windows wont allow me copy files back... & using FTP to transfer files is very tiring process with possibility of errors...But it's my opinion guys.
Swapping not like real ram, like i said virtual ram. But All of you be can sure, virtual ram really boost the (our) phones x10 times.
Example: closed ext swap last night (from clock work mode) and installed "ram manager pro." And added 1gb (1024mb) (also will add 2048mb) swap ram to my fit. I did because of clcokworkmode give only 256mb swap ram.
Result: All apk's first open really open like vanilla (default). But after second one, you can see improvement. Speed comes with smile. And best thing for you, ram optimitizion scripts and task killers not necessary. Because swap file directly answer your response with 30mb/ps(+) read rate.
Recommend: Try with 8gb class 10 sd cards, they're cheap nowadays, you won't regret
Tip: Galaxy fit support only (maximum) 32gb sd cards.
I have micro sd card Lexar class 10 it support or not
if you know Can I do ram swap for my galaxy fit?
ahmetakin said:
I have micro sd card Lexar class 10 it support or not
if you know Can I do ram swap for my galaxy fit?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimization
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.azasoft.free.swapper
These programs enough for you, pick one.
is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..? android devices will give better performance in higher random read write speed sd card ......so which class of sd card we should purchase for android devices .....??
...my regards
rishav754 said:
is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..? android devices will give better performance in higher random read write speed sd card ......so which class of sd card we should purchase for android devices .....??
...my regards
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That really depends on you. What do you mainly want to do with the sd card?
LS.xD said:
That really depends on you. What do you mainly want to do with the sd card?
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is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..?
rishav754 said:
is it true that higher the class of sd card less will be random read write speed..?
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"Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds."
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"Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds."
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thanks for reply
which means that class 4 have best random read write speed despite of sequential speed than class 6 and 10 .
rishav754 said:
thanks for reply
which means that class 4 have best random read write speed despite of sequential speed than class 6 and 10 .
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I'm not a SD crad lol. Every manufacturer's sd cards provide different r/w speeds, even if its the same "class". May I know whats the main purpose of your sd card?
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I'm not a SD crad lol. Every manufacturer's sd cards provide different r/w speeds, even if its the same "class". May I know whats the main purpose of your sd card?
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they only provide sequential read and write speed....but for proper running of an operating system we need good random read and write speed as far as different application are concerned....so in my view if anyone purchase an class 10 sd card for his mobile he wouldn't able to use his hardware properly ....which means lack in performance due to hardware limitation .......so for android running device which have their applications in sd card isn't class 4 should be preferred in spite of other class so that we got good sequential as well as random speed ...
regards ..
rishav754 said:
they only provide sequential read and write speed....but for proper running of an operating system we need good random read and write speed as far as different application are concerned....so in my view if anyone purchase an class 10 sd card for his mobile he wouldn't able to use his hardware properly ....which means lack in performance due to hardware limitation .......so for android running device which have their applications in sd card isn't class 4 should be preferred in spite of other class so that we got good sequential as well as random speed ...
regards ..
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Is this a proofed information or your personal opinion ?!?!?!?! I'd just say you're wrong. It DEPENDS ON PURPOSE of th sd card. For me a class 10 card does it much better than my class 4 and 6 card. A "SanDisk Class 10 or higher" won't slow your device in any case...
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Is this a proofed information or your personal opinion ?!?!?!?! I'd just say you're wrong. It DEPENDS ON PURPOSE of th sd card. For me a class 10 card does it much better than my class 4 and 6 card. A "SanDisk Class 10 or higher" won't slow your device in any case...
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its just my personal opinion .....! actually i performed a random read write test on on class 4,6,10 and found that they almost have same RDRW speed ....as a techno- economic i would like to recommend a class 4 sd card for an average user if his/her device doesn't support 1080p video . is it be good to recommended it.....!?? because so many people asked me about this that what would be best for them in economic range ..........because here in india Rupee 1000 saving can change their device preference .......
thanks
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its just my personal opinion .....! actually i performed a random read write test on on class 4,6,10 and found that they almost have same RDRW speed ....as a techno- economic i would like to recommend a class 4 sd card for an average user if his/her device doesn't support 1080p video . is it be good to recommended it.....!?? because so many people asked me about this that what would be best for them in economic range ..........because here in india Rupee 1000 saving can change their device preference .......
thanks
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In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster
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In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster
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:good:
thanks
LS.xD said:
In India you will find a lot "cheap" devices with low physical ram / internal storage. For using SWAP ram or int2ext script a class 10 card is at least faster
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benchmark result
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
rishav754 said:
benchmark result
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
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Dated "NOVEMBER 9, 2011" --> Probably NOT representative for actual purchases lol