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SGS II battery in a SGS I

Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.

No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.

surrealjam said:
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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Ah ok. Just noticed that I missed the whole accesories section indeed .

And the i9003 (1650mAh) battery will also fit.

Denizzje said:
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
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If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD

chandramohan1986 said:
If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.

T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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That's why I use external wall charger
I never charge high capacity batteries while plugged to the device

T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
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From what I've seen, most cheap, higher-capacity batteries are, simply not higher capacity. Someone over in the Captivate forum actually did some quantitative measurements. The results were that none of the cheap, 3rd party batteries came close to their listed capacity. Only the OEM batteries were close to their rated capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906611
Edit: The doubles-sized, extended batteries will certainly have more capacity than the OEM stock battery, but it's not likely to have anywhere near the capacity that it says it does. Oh, and, as far as I know, these tests were not done on any of the premium 3rd party batteries - just the cheap ones.

I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.

Chillaholic said:
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?

Denizzje said:
That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743
Its mentioned in the first post.
You have to order by phone.
Here are all the partner shops in europe.
https://www.aswo.com/internet/ICM99_ENG.NSF/(html)/LinkFrame_4?OpenDocument

it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually

senotrius said:
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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The 1650 mAh battery you are talking about is the one for the galaxy SL? Does it fit into the sgs properly?
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The ones using 1650 mah batteries can you tell me that you realized longer battery life?
Since it is only 10 percent higher than the stock battery it should have only 10 percent more battery life. So the extension of battery life for me it is about 2 - 2.5 more hours MAXIMUM and that does not make sense to me.

It should be 10% but for me it feels more like 20-30%.
Maby I loaded my 1500mAh battery wrong,
but it seems to me to be a bigger different between both.

ProdiCell-Premium-1900mAH-Extended-Battery

http://www.amazon.com/ProdiCell-Premium-1900mAH-Extended-Battery/dp/tech-data/B0058DHG92
Has anyone seen this?

just ordered it, hopefully it works as well as it sounds?
will post again in a couple days when i get it and try it out :]

Really looking to get this battery. Please post results. Thanks!
Sent from my Infuse

here is 1970mAh
http://cgi.ebay.com/1970mAh-Battery...355747?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3369159b23

halfnelson117 said:
Really looking to get this battery. Please post results. Thanks!
Sent from my Infuse
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It's only 150mah "extra" (less that 10% above stock capacity) so, even **IF** the rating is correct and not just advertising or outright false (how can anyone dispute their claims without actual controlled testing methods) how much difference can it REALLY make?
I find these "extended" battery claims are usually just BS. There was an engineer guy on one of the digital camera forums that put all these "extended" 3rd party camera batteries to test under stringent controlled testing with very expensive equipment and virtually every one was BS.
Just like the claims for transfer speed of SD cards. Most all of them failed to come close and without controlled testing there really is no way to prove or disprove their claims.
Edit: If you really believe in the tooth fairy here is a guy selling THREE "alleged" 1900mah batteries AND a charger for under $17.00. I'd bet they are the identical cells to the 1 for $20 or 1 for $25 ones.

Well, some of the extended batteries are physically larger and require an alternate battery cover, these are legit.
In the case of an extended battery that is the same form factor like this one, it's either:
1) BS
2) The battery's physical structure has been weakened (things are thinner) to provide more room for electrolyte/electrodes.

Entropy512 said:
Well, some of the extended batteries are physically larger and require an alternate battery cover, these are
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Generally that is very true. However they're only legit if the bigger size really packs more "stuff." Bigger isn't always better. Just because it says it 3800mah doesn't mean it is. It could still be only 2500. Kind of like the $89 2000 watt amps. It all depends on how you measure it and if anyone actually checks.
Are there any "bigger" extended batteries for the Infuse yet?

3000mah standard size battery with nfc?

Hey guys
i'm looking for a battery with 3000 mah in standard size with working nfc.
i've found various batteries:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Power-Akku-3...237?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item1c31c2c8b5
http://www.ebay.de/itm/3500mah-MPJ-...523?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item27d3fdf933
did some already tested this batteries? does they really have 3000+ mah? and does they support nfc?

Most do not really have anymore mah then stock. Many have less.
Samsung is not limiting battery capacity because they want to. There battery is first limited by physical size and then the Li technology has its own limits.
I would love 15% more battery in same space - I bet Samsung would too.
I don't think even the name brands that promised more actually ever delivered.
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A few posts down is a review of one of these.

alphadog00 said:
Most do not really have anymore mah then stock. Many have less.
Samsung is not limiting battery capacity because they want to. There battery is first limited by physical size and then the Li technology has its own limits.
I would love 15% more battery in same space - I bet Samsung would too.
I don't think even the name brands that promised more actually ever delivered.
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A few posts down is a review of one of these.
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The capacity depends on the size.
The highest capacity is 2600mah for standard size.
3000mah standard size Li-ion battery is not ture.
No one can make up it.
If you want more extended capacity, It must be oversized.

Come on guys. If you take AAA batteries from different manufacturers you will get different capacity in the same size. The price is then as well different, but this has nothing to do with technology and size. It is about money and corporate policies.
I do however agree that 3500 mAh battery in the same size for just 10 euros is a little suspicious.

Zerolemon is coming out with a 3000 mah standard size battery.
http://www.amazon.com/warranty-ZeroLemon-Compatible-International-Guarantee/dp/B00CXZHYPO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3B5RKIJB3E9L6&coliid=I3JEEY7GHWKZ5L

Yes, there are different AA/AAA cells rated at different MAH - but this is an opposite situation. These cell sized AA, AAA, C, D - were designed as a physical standard first and then manufacturers could charge more for more energy capacity - and this only came about in later years as technology changed.
Cell phone batteries are built to fit inside phones are don't have a physical size standard. The phone manufacturer crams the biggest thing they can fit into the space with the most mah. No phone manufacturer is undersizing their batteries to sell a higher capacity (of the same physical size) as that would be idiotic. They maxed them out already as battery life is a major selling point or deal breaker.
As for the Zerolemon - it hasn't been seen or measured yet. And it is possible if you tweak the chemistry make up, there are costs and tradeoffs though. Is it worth 15% more juices for a $50 price tag? Maybe for some. Maybe it is different LiON or Polymer tech and has some other tradeoffs - like more likely to catch fire due to whatever they use to separate cells, or less stable electrolyte mix.
It could be that their are no technical limitations at all, but Samsung didn't think an extra $30 per phone was worth 15% more runtime.
But the ebay stuff is junk, and anyone that thinks that an ebay battery with 15% to 30% more capacity that is available soon after the phone launches (implies little R&D) is going to work, is stuck in a fantasy world. There is so much fake stuff on eBay, and so few people believe the old mantra "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is". Scams haven't changed in 1000 years, why should they change now?

Extended battery with original battery cover?

Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.

mgbotoe said:
Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.

Joey2o11 said:
How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete

mgbotoe said:
Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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which one did u get?

Any of those batteries claiming to be high capacity yet OEM sized are probably dangerous (Google cheap lithium batteries) and nowhere near the capacity they claim. If you want to risk your expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap nasty battery that could explode go for it.....

Yes, what Joey2o11 said is correct. A battery that's the same size as the factory battery will have the same, or less, mah as the factory battery. Any company claiming their factory-sized battery has more mah is simply lying so they'll sell more batteries. You can read where many different unaffiliated companies test batteries from manufacturers and 3rd parties, and you'll see the results are always the same. Bottom line - if you want more mah, you'll need a bigger battery.
Also, you made a thread asking the community to share info about batteries. So when you found one to purchase you should have shared your findings with the community, not asked a moderator to close the thread. XDA is all about sharing information with the community, not keeping it to yourself...

Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.

twe69 said:
Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?

Joey2o11 said:
So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
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I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.

twe69 said:
I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
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That phone was never the "in" phone and anyone who thinks any cheap chinese third party battery is gonna compare to a stock oem battery is delusional. They are expensive for a reason, even after you trim off the excessive markup.

That sums things up nicely

If there was a way for extra mAh to be crammed into the same space, Samsung would've done it themselves. And even if there was a way and some other company made such batteries, the production costs would be through the roof, so the retail price would reflect that.
The best you can expect from a cheap battery is to be on par with the OEM (although unlikely), but it's simply unrealistic to expect it to be better.

[Q] Looking for high capacity battery for N4 - Is this ok?

Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.

I've been thinking lately to replace mine too..
You should give it a.go and tell us results! It's a shame I can't order from aliexpress.

I doubt that you will be able to get a replacement battery (li-ion) that has the same physical dimensions, higher capacity and a lower price.
When things sounds to good to be true, it often is
I think you'll get a cheap battery with - at best - the same capacity as an original battery.
I would go for an original battery.

to_sukanta said:
Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.
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You can't squeeze more capacity into the same volume - that said, there are some battery manufacturers who can get an extra 10% or so. I remember buying one from a very reputable company in Switzerland several years ago for a phone, but I can't recall their name
So either them, if you can track them down, or an original battery. Stay away from batteries which promise enormous amounts of mah, or are just very cheap. The original is not a bad option since realistically the phone has a remaining life of a couple of years max.
Another very good option is to buy an external pack. For example a 5000mah pack occupies the same volume and weighs the same as a phone, and will provide plenty of spare capacity without adding weight or bulk to the phone (unless when you are using it, otherwise it can sit in a bag). NewTrent is a good brand, as is Xiaomi, good offers on Amazon.
(I got myself a Xiaomi 10,000mah battery pack which is technically really good but just too heavy and bulky)

That's fake, it's still 2100mAh, you can't squeeze more mAh from same size.

Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)

Another vote for "physics > spiel". You simply cannot get more mAH from the same dimensions. For the fella above who says he got more out of a replacement Nokia, it's entirely possible that the improvement in battery life was merely down to the age of the battery, as in, the one he was used to was tired and running out of charge cycles.

You can squeeze a little more power in the cell , these come highly recommended but not cheap.

to_sukanta said:
Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)
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Don't forget that it is possible for manufacturers to stack batteries and make them bigger (thicker). Nexus 4's non-removable back (glass!), fragile design make this impossible. I remember seeing a 6200mAh battery for my old Note 2, but you needed to use a custom back cover because of the added thickness. But the point is battery capacity is limited by it's density, so the only way to make a larger capacity battery is to make it bigger. Until we get some new battery technology with different density like graphite or whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-Uwmn2pCg