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Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
Hi I am a new member here. I also read somewhere about a mugen battery. haven't been able to order yet. I recently bought an external 5000mAh battery (USB charging) I can charge my DHD approximately 4 times before recharging the external battery.
just wanted to share an alternative to extended batteries that need to replace your battery cover.
a 5000mAh? holy ****...
EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
These are the same as ones you can get from ebay.
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DN41 said:
EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
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lol. Nowadays everything seems to be made in china.
though seriously i share ur sentiments.
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My Primo powerpack just arrived last night...and I say I am impressed....already charged 2 Iphones and charge my DHD on it and its still got more juice in it.
Primo Power Pack
Mr-Maniac said:
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
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Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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but external can hold ALOT more AND plug into various devices
I would definitely recommend an external powerpack. I have a New Trent 5500mah pack, and it indeed gives 2-3 recharges, in a form factor slightly smaller than the DHD.
The only battery which is not fake, is the Mugen, coming in at 1500mah. It's not a huge improvement, but many say it's the difference between running out of juice mid-evening, and making it through to the night and the power cord.
Search for Mugen in this forum, all the details are there.
Or look for NewTrent on Amazon for example. The price varies (and they have bigger models too).
Avoid ALL OTHER "high capacity" batteries
314 said:
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
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Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
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evertop co uk is a well-known scammer. You should have looked up uk's ripoff list (forgot the full name of this website, you could search) and you can find it listed top 10 or something.
UK is hoarded with scammers like that, because their government just don't give a dime of what their people do on the internet.
patrickrigby said:
Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
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I bought two of these on eBay. It's not better than the original (but not worst either).
Worth the money I paid (few $).
I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
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I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
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Let us know how it goes soon will ya.
Gold battery for DHD
Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
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Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
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2430MAH? i don't think it is even possible to fit that much cell into the DHD battery size, i'm currently on the mugen 1500MAH battery, it is slightly better then the stock battery, would recommend that
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You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
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- Ive been a little worried about this as I have a cheap one from China which came in an accessory pack, which by the way sucked. everything has just fallen apart. but the battery, which I rely on heavily as a backup, seems to have a better life than the original odly enough, dunno what's up with that. afraid it may leak or output higher charges and fry my phone?
I found this on ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/NEW-GOLD-243...neBatteries&hash=item4aa9178adc#ht_3268wt_772
any one tried it already ? or is there any review? i cant seem to find any on the web!
btw, its make in Japan.
The look of the battery is really nice.
But 2430
Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
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Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
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They will try anything to make them seem a bit more plausible
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They will try anything to make them seem a bit more plausible
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Yup, looks way better than the ones in the accessories section
This seems totally fake.
Googling will get you a few discussions on this battery, but the following image should confirm all suspicions.
http://img109.imageshack.us/i/20100708029.jpg/
For this one (1930mAh) it is only 750mAh....
well, i think this is fake and i don't think this is made in Japan, but in mainland china
I'm about 400% sure it is a piece of ****. Unless they are selling some amazing new high density cell technology for only ten quid. If so we need to thank them for not seeking to profit from their industry changing discovery.
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its not a gold like metal battery, lol. its just a normal battery wrap in gold sticker.
mmmmm, gold stickers also increase the CPU speed. lol
that really funny.....
I never tried, but look at the cell type Li-Ion Polymer IMHO it's somehow realistic. Maybe not as their ads 2430mAh but somewhere between 1230 and that value. Then 20 bucks is worth to try, any one brave enough to try and report?
You can check the seller's recent feedback and see if anyone bought any from them.
I mean there shouldn't be any harm, its just a battery. Its not like buying an adapter charger, in case of wrong voltage which will fry ur phone.
now, I'm no expert (and there is no end of websites run by battery experts), but there is a limitation as to how many mah can fit into a certain space.
That is, the OEM battery size gives a certain output, and you can probably get a bit more in the same form factor.
But not double Simply don't believe the bull**** out there. Whether it's chinese, japanese, gold or silver.
Older teminal designs allowed manufacturers to market physically bigger batteries with a custom cover, of course that is not an option here.
I am quite happy as long as I can get a day out of the phone, charging overnight.
If you want a 11,000 mah battery, look here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Largest-Capacity-In-The-World+1-AMP-Faster-Charging/dp/B004CHMP50/
There you go, your phone will run forever with that baby hooked up to it.
I bought a 5000 mah pack for about 2/3 the price, mainly since I want to be using the gps for tracking (and being tracked) purposes while out in the country on my mountain bike. Works very well, it's not heavy, it's a bit like having another small phone with you
Its quite likely that most manufacturing overstate the specification, which is a common thing really, not just battery, broadband, harddrive, etc. They always claim it has more then what it actually has.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't go so far calling it a fake, since japs does always paint something gold or silver to suggest higher quality stuff. Because when I was a kid living in asia, I buy a lot of radio control cars from japan and their expensive parts like battery, motors, always has something gold or silver attach to it
Has anyone ever got a decent battery from eBay?
I have been looking and I see a lot of 1500 mah ... but then if you read the fine print they say 1500 mah (+/- 200 mah) which admits that it is just another 1300 mah knock off. How can a legitimate battery be + or - 200 mah...
To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
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To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
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Precisely. tbh, I understand we'd all like to believe there are miracle solutions to this, but equally we should understand that this miracle is not going to come from an ebay seller
However few dollars a cheap battery costs you, it ain't much use if it's going to fail after a few hours. And the hassle linked with keeping replacement batteries charged is not worth it either. I had a spare OEM battery for my previous phone, and I got fed up of keeping it ready.
3 solutions:
1) strategies to minimise power consumption (loads of suggestions in this sub-forum)
2) keep it topped up during the day if you're at home/office
3) get an external power pack as I mentioned above, 5000mah variants are (were) GBP23 on Amazon.
We need to find out if anyone has a battery that is bigger than 1500 mah. It looks like the Optimus 2x uses the same battery so I would hope someone has a 1650 or 1800 mah out there. Let me know if a source is found. It would be nice to have an external wall charger as well.
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Or maybe a dock with spare battery charger on the back to at least hold a stock battery to charge
Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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Sometimes there are extended batteries made that are the same exact size as the stock one but have a larger capacity. For example, I bought a Seidio extended 1750mAh battery for my Droid X which was the same size as the original battery but had about 250 more mAh to it...it gave me a couple more hours on one charge. Hopefully something similar is made for the G2X!
Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Lol good idea...here's their twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/seidioseidio
Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2x1600mAh-B...&ps=63&clkid=8677498459030269031#ht_675wt_936
http://www.rpasonline.com/pd-1600-mah-battery-for-lg-optimus-2x.cfm
If they make a extended batt That's the same size, ill def get it. I don't want a bigger one cause it will cause problems with my car and house dock.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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Seidio slim extended batteries are usually way lower than what they state. Just run a quick search on here...bottom line, you may as well use the stock battery in most cases.
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They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery.
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Actually, they just re-label their inferior batteries with bigger mAh numbers and make a big profit for their efforts.
No company has ever made a legitimate higher capacity OEM size battery ever.
I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
Agreed. Seidio does make some legit extended batteries, like the 2500 and 3500 mAh one's they put out for the EVO and Droid X, etc... but the ones that are the same size as the stock battery don't hold any extra juice, they take advantage of the loop hole in the rules concerning how companies can label batteries.
Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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There is no range. All the OEM batteries I've tested were within 3% of their tagged rating.
Regarding Seidio, there is no explanation as to why their "same size & higher capacity" batteries consistently deliver less power than an OEM battery.
But don't let me stop anyone from buying their snake oil.
Regarding Mugen, that first link shows a disassembled 3000mAh battery that contained 2 1200mAh cells. I call it fraud, plain and simple. They all do it, I've proved it.
i just ended up getting this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N63AC6 . i have a body glove case and they're a pain to snap off everytime i want to replace my battery while at work. for me, this is much easier.
now if they made a good extended battery with a custom back cover like i had on my g1, i'd get it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
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You ever tested any of the batteries from htc express? Those seem to work well.
Currently I am using Veho 5Ah external battery while I am waiting for 2 more batteries.
With regular microUSB cable, it works fine.
http://www.jr.com/veho/pe/VEH_VCCA007PBP/
$35 isn't bad at all.
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Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
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Definitely stay away from the 1600mah. I saw those and I emailed one of the buyers.. and asked him for his input on the battery b4 I made a purchase. He said "stay away, they are junk and only hold a charge for a couple of hours. save your money."
hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
Feedback's pretty good on the seller. Why not buy a set and post the results?
some company called MPJ is also selling a 4300mah one which supposedly fits with the original back cover so it might be legit.
http://www.mpjbattery.com/mpj-4300m...900-g900m-g900a-g900t-g900v-g900r4-g900p.html
How long these will last and whether they do actually give 4300mah I have no idea, its a huge jump from 2800 in the same size so you have to question exactly how they can do that when samsung doesnt. Lets face it if samsung could produce 4300 in that exact same size and quality, even if it was a slightly higher cost, they would probably do it because the phone would destroy everything else for battery life with 4300mah as stock......and this makes me very skeptical.
Ideally what we want is someone to get some of the various higher capacity batteries from various manufacturers and do a few proper tests to at least see for sure how much longer they last when in use. We still have no idea how many charge cycles you will get with it still being that high but if it lasts for a year and really does give 50% extra capacity for that year then its probably a good buy. The danger even if it gives a decent boost for a few weeks during the initial tests is that it then starts wearing off and ends up worse than a stock battery after a month or 2. There HAS to be some catch somewhere or samsung would surely make these themselves and flog them at a premium for users that want extra power.
The key for me is being able to use the original cover as I dont want extra bulk.
We have to wait and see I guess.
anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
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anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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Also no NFC. At $6, it might be worth it as a spare.. but I agree their marketing is sub-par... of course it comes from China so that's to be expected... You'll see that Amazon claims 17-28 business days shipping, so it's definitely coming from either China or Hong Kong...
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hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
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okay fine.. May i ask you here case and battery together sell here ?
Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
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Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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which one did u get?
Any of those batteries claiming to be high capacity yet OEM sized are probably dangerous (Google cheap lithium batteries) and nowhere near the capacity they claim. If you want to risk your expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap nasty battery that could explode go for it.....
Yes, what Joey2o11 said is correct. A battery that's the same size as the factory battery will have the same, or less, mah as the factory battery. Any company claiming their factory-sized battery has more mah is simply lying so they'll sell more batteries. You can read where many different unaffiliated companies test batteries from manufacturers and 3rd parties, and you'll see the results are always the same. Bottom line - if you want more mah, you'll need a bigger battery.
Also, you made a thread asking the community to share info about batteries. So when you found one to purchase you should have shared your findings with the community, not asked a moderator to close the thread. XDA is all about sharing information with the community, not keeping it to yourself...
Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
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Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
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I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
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I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
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That phone was never the "in" phone and anyone who thinks any cheap chinese third party battery is gonna compare to a stock oem battery is delusional. They are expensive for a reason, even after you trim off the excessive markup.
That sums things up nicely
If there was a way for extra mAh to be crammed into the same space, Samsung would've done it themselves. And even if there was a way and some other company made such batteries, the production costs would be through the roof, so the retail price would reflect that.
The best you can expect from a cheap battery is to be on par with the OEM (although unlikely), but it's simply unrealistic to expect it to be better.