I found this on ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/NEW-GOLD-243...neBatteries&hash=item4aa9178adc#ht_3268wt_772
any one tried it already ? or is there any review? i cant seem to find any on the web!
btw, its make in Japan.
The look of the battery is really nice.
But 2430
Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
AWBob said:
Can't say I've tried it but it looks like crap to me, same as most other batteries on eBay. Who cares if their battery is gold or not?
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They will try anything to make them seem a bit more plausible
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Yup, looks way better than the ones in the accessories section
This seems totally fake.
Googling will get you a few discussions on this battery, but the following image should confirm all suspicions.
http://img109.imageshack.us/i/20100708029.jpg/
For this one (1930mAh) it is only 750mAh....
well, i think this is fake and i don't think this is made in Japan, but in mainland china
I'm about 400% sure it is a piece of ****. Unless they are selling some amazing new high density cell technology for only ten quid. If so we need to thank them for not seeking to profit from their industry changing discovery.
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its not a gold like metal battery, lol. its just a normal battery wrap in gold sticker.
mmmmm, gold stickers also increase the CPU speed. lol
that really funny.....
I never tried, but look at the cell type Li-Ion Polymer IMHO it's somehow realistic. Maybe not as their ads 2430mAh but somewhere between 1230 and that value. Then 20 bucks is worth to try, any one brave enough to try and report?
You can check the seller's recent feedback and see if anyone bought any from them.
I mean there shouldn't be any harm, its just a battery. Its not like buying an adapter charger, in case of wrong voltage which will fry ur phone.
now, I'm no expert (and there is no end of websites run by battery experts), but there is a limitation as to how many mah can fit into a certain space.
That is, the OEM battery size gives a certain output, and you can probably get a bit more in the same form factor.
But not double Simply don't believe the bull**** out there. Whether it's chinese, japanese, gold or silver.
Older teminal designs allowed manufacturers to market physically bigger batteries with a custom cover, of course that is not an option here.
I am quite happy as long as I can get a day out of the phone, charging overnight.
If you want a 11,000 mah battery, look here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Largest-Capacity-In-The-World+1-AMP-Faster-Charging/dp/B004CHMP50/
There you go, your phone will run forever with that baby hooked up to it.
I bought a 5000 mah pack for about 2/3 the price, mainly since I want to be using the gps for tracking (and being tracked) purposes while out in the country on my mountain bike. Works very well, it's not heavy, it's a bit like having another small phone with you
Its quite likely that most manufacturing overstate the specification, which is a common thing really, not just battery, broadband, harddrive, etc. They always claim it has more then what it actually has.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't go so far calling it a fake, since japs does always paint something gold or silver to suggest higher quality stuff. Because when I was a kid living in asia, I buy a lot of radio control cars from japan and their expensive parts like battery, motors, always has something gold or silver attach to it
Has anyone ever got a decent battery from eBay?
I have been looking and I see a lot of 1500 mah ... but then if you read the fine print they say 1500 mah (+/- 200 mah) which admits that it is just another 1300 mah knock off. How can a legitimate battery be + or - 200 mah...
To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
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To bad the battery's coming from Japan are crap.
You want battery's from Hongkong, those are way better.
Anyway i bought a replacement/2nd battery wich had 1600mAh.
But after 2 weeks it wasnt as good as the stock battery wich let me use my phone all day and the 1600mAh one didnt.
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Precisely. tbh, I understand we'd all like to believe there are miracle solutions to this, but equally we should understand that this miracle is not going to come from an ebay seller
However few dollars a cheap battery costs you, it ain't much use if it's going to fail after a few hours. And the hassle linked with keeping replacement batteries charged is not worth it either. I had a spare OEM battery for my previous phone, and I got fed up of keeping it ready.
3 solutions:
1) strategies to minimise power consumption (loads of suggestions in this sub-forum)
2) keep it topped up during the day if you're at home/office
3) get an external power pack as I mentioned above, 5000mah variants are (were) GBP23 on Amazon.
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Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
Hi I am a new member here. I also read somewhere about a mugen battery. haven't been able to order yet. I recently bought an external 5000mAh battery (USB charging) I can charge my DHD approximately 4 times before recharging the external battery.
just wanted to share an alternative to extended batteries that need to replace your battery cover.
a 5000mAh? holy ****...
EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
These are the same as ones you can get from ebay.
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EXTERNAL
the ones, which you connect to your usb port and charge the phone's battery
i wouldn't buy another internal one than the original.
battery's can be really dangerous..no chance to buy one from china or so..just my 2 cents.
DN41
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lol. Nowadays everything seems to be made in china.
though seriously i share ur sentiments.
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My Primo powerpack just arrived last night...and I say I am impressed....already charged 2 Iphones and charge my DHD on it and its still got more juice in it.
Primo Power Pack
Mr-Maniac said:
Found one while browsing around for a replacement for my DHD too.
Can't post links yet, but if you go to a site called evertop ending in a .co.uk and search for 35H00141-02M, you will find one with 1550mAH rating.
There are a few of these replacement ones claiming higher capacity, but one has to be cautious about these things mate.
Would love to find a genuinely reliable replacement one, although I must admit, if you haven't tried it already, there is a thread around which has a tip to charge the DHD in a certain way - seems to have worked for me upto certain extent - have managed to go over 24h without the need to charge with moderate use.
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Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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but external can hold ALOT more AND plug into various devices
I would definitely recommend an external powerpack. I have a New Trent 5500mah pack, and it indeed gives 2-3 recharges, in a form factor slightly smaller than the DHD.
The only battery which is not fake, is the Mugen, coming in at 1500mah. It's not a huge improvement, but many say it's the difference between running out of juice mid-evening, and making it through to the night and the power cord.
Search for Mugen in this forum, all the details are there.
Or look for NewTrent on Amazon for example. The price varies (and they have bigger models too).
Avoid ALL OTHER "high capacity" batteries
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I still don't get why people consider battery life as extremely important for phones that have easy to remove batteries...
They arent too expensive, ($3 on ebay for a 1600 mah fake, $15 for a genuine 1230) and its not exactly that hard to keep a few on you.
External batteries are also another option, but they usually use more space than internal ones (and they also require a cable).
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You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
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Take extra precaution to this company. They will send you counterfeit goods no matter what if they think you are incapable of fighting back (say, living too far away).
My friend has been scammed once, and he went through all the complain channel in UK online in vain. It seems that UK's Government has no intention to stop online scammers that are active in their own countries. That was really an awkward discovery.
So be very careful.
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evertop co uk is a well-known scammer. You should have looked up uk's ripoff list (forgot the full name of this website, you could search) and you can find it listed top 10 or something.
UK is hoarded with scammers like that, because their government just don't give a dime of what their people do on the internet.
patrickrigby said:
Hey Guys
I'm having some quite bad battery life with my DHD and I was looking into getting a bigger capacity battery.
I found this:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
It is 1600 mAh and on paper looks promising and before I just wanted to check has anyone ordered this and had successful results with this battery and the seller or is it just a fail?
Thanks
Patrick
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I bought two of these on eBay. It's not better than the original (but not worst either).
Worth the money I paid (few $).
I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
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I recently got 1, not tried it out yet
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Let us know how it goes soon will ya.
Gold battery for DHD
Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
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Hi Guys,
I cannot put links yet, but search for "2430MAH HIGH CAPACITY BAS470 GOLD BATTERY FOR DESIRE HD" on Ebay. Got it yesterday, so far so good, looks like it lasts more than the stock one...
It says "Made in Japan" but im not sure about this
Did anyone else tried this one?
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2430MAH? i don't think it is even possible to fit that much cell into the DHD battery size, i'm currently on the mugen 1500MAH battery, it is slightly better then the stock battery, would recommend that
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You are right, batteries aren't expensive nowaday.
I recommend using genuine where possible. Fake/replacement/counterfeit batteries return bogus charging level to the devices, and that would result in pre-mature shutdown which would damage mobile devices.
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- Ive been a little worried about this as I have a cheap one from China which came in an accessory pack, which by the way sucked. everything has just fallen apart. but the battery, which I rely on heavily as a backup, seems to have a better life than the original odly enough, dunno what's up with that. afraid it may leak or output higher charges and fry my phone?
We need to find out if anyone has a battery that is bigger than 1500 mah. It looks like the Optimus 2x uses the same battery so I would hope someone has a 1650 or 1800 mah out there. Let me know if a source is found. It would be nice to have an external wall charger as well.
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Or maybe a dock with spare battery charger on the back to at least hold a stock battery to charge
Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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Sometimes there are extended batteries made that are the same exact size as the stock one but have a larger capacity. For example, I bought a Seidio extended 1750mAh battery for my Droid X which was the same size as the original battery but had about 250 more mAh to it...it gave me a couple more hours on one charge. Hopefully something similar is made for the G2X!
Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Lol good idea...here's their twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/seidioseidio
Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2x1600mAh-B...&ps=63&clkid=8677498459030269031#ht_675wt_936
http://www.rpasonline.com/pd-1600-mah-battery-for-lg-optimus-2x.cfm
If they make a extended batt That's the same size, ill def get it. I don't want a bigger one cause it will cause problems with my car and house dock.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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Seidio slim extended batteries are usually way lower than what they state. Just run a quick search on here...bottom line, you may as well use the stock battery in most cases.
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They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery.
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Actually, they just re-label their inferior batteries with bigger mAh numbers and make a big profit for their efforts.
No company has ever made a legitimate higher capacity OEM size battery ever.
I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
Agreed. Seidio does make some legit extended batteries, like the 2500 and 3500 mAh one's they put out for the EVO and Droid X, etc... but the ones that are the same size as the stock battery don't hold any extra juice, they take advantage of the loop hole in the rules concerning how companies can label batteries.
Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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There is no range. All the OEM batteries I've tested were within 3% of their tagged rating.
Regarding Seidio, there is no explanation as to why their "same size & higher capacity" batteries consistently deliver less power than an OEM battery.
But don't let me stop anyone from buying their snake oil.
Regarding Mugen, that first link shows a disassembled 3000mAh battery that contained 2 1200mAh cells. I call it fraud, plain and simple. They all do it, I've proved it.
i just ended up getting this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N63AC6 . i have a body glove case and they're a pain to snap off everytime i want to replace my battery while at work. for me, this is much easier.
now if they made a good extended battery with a custom back cover like i had on my g1, i'd get it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
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You ever tested any of the batteries from htc express? Those seem to work well.
Currently I am using Veho 5Ah external battery while I am waiting for 2 more batteries.
With regular microUSB cable, it works fine.
http://www.jr.com/veho/pe/VEH_VCCA007PBP/
$35 isn't bad at all.
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Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
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Definitely stay away from the 1600mah. I saw those and I emailed one of the buyers.. and asked him for his input on the battery b4 I made a purchase. He said "stay away, they are junk and only hold a charge for a couple of hours. save your money."
Look what I found on Mugen's international site. Of course it has a new back cover for the phone because the battery is so chubby. But 4500mAh, dang!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...tery-for-lg-optimus-2x-p990-t-mobile-g2x.html
thanks for the link but NO WAY! $100+ is way to rich for my blood...
i just ordered 2 of these. i like the idea plus they are solar and charge all my gadgets on top of my phone. and shipping from china is 22 for dhl but they are worth it and are the size or smaller than our phone! holds almost twice the charge with multiple voltages including 3.7v which is ours.
Total was around $52 after shipping but just sell one or keep the other for twice as much! ill repost this link in thread.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_...arger-for-mobile-phones-and-mini-usb-devices/
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thanks for the link but NO WAY! $100+ is way to rich for my blood...
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Too expensive and UGLY
Wow, out if my budget.
I could buy 3 external batteries including shipping, for that.
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look at the back cover on that thing and then the shape of the batter! what a waste of space!
I am sorry but I get plenty of juice out of my battery, i dont know what i would do with a battery twice the size let alone three times the size of my current one... that **** would last all week without needing a recharge!
honestly for the same price, little bigger and more juice i could just lug around a mini nuclear reactor... where is tony stark when you need him? im trying to hook my phone up with that mini arc reactor bro!
Yeah, that is way too bulky for the size. If they wanted to extend the back of it, why wouldnt they make the battery a sort of P shape that extends further up the back so it doesnt have to bulge as much?
I MIGHT buy a battery that only makes the back case flush with the camera. I already dont like that camera hump on the back, so a battery that only needed to extend that much or a tiny bit more would be perfect. Maybe like a 2500mAh?
Thread cleanup, back on topic please.
My question here is this: Is it completely safe to use this battery?
I'm thinking perhaps in the future I might want to buy one because I deplete my battery extremely fast with constant use. The only thing I'm worried about is if it will hurt my phone in any way.
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My question here is this: Is it completely safe to use this battery?
I'm thinking perhaps in the future I might want to buy one because I deplete my battery extremely fast with constant use. The only thing I'm worried about is if it will hurt my phone in any way.
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you know I was thinking this too, but I did watch some reviews on youtube on their other 4500 mah extended batteries for other android phone models. It doesn't look that bad, infact it seems to make the phones look like a tiny miniature powerhouse PCs from the future.
Right now it says their sold out and will get new stock in June, I'm definitley gonna get one. If like the reviews say that some people don't have to charge this extended battery after 3 days of heavy use then I'll be in G2x heaven. Infact, I would bet as LG was in the design proces for the phone that they were shooting for a phone that could last for 3-5 days on one battery charge, but since marketing research thinks consumers will only buy a slim form factor cell phone, they opted to cut corners on performance for cosmetics, which absolutley sucks in my opinion.
just ordered it. Will post a review once I receive it.
I ordered the 4800 one for my atrix as well. I just received that one today. Will try it out when I get home!
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just ordered it. Will post a review once I receive it.
I ordered the 4800 one for my atrix as well. I just received that one today. Will try it out when I get home!
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Right on, can't wait for the review. Just wanted to ask though, I saw that they were out of stock and that they'd get more in stock and if I ordered on that certain day I looked on the site, I would get it on June 3rd. I looked at the site again and it said if I ordered that day I'd get it on the 10th, now I checked again today and it said if I ordered I'd get it on the 6th. What gives with all the different ship dates?
You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
How professional are they and quality of the product?
Does the product come with a specific charger?
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
Sorry for the questions, I'm just very interested in this battery and I'm so ready to purchase, just waiting till they get it in stock, before I ordered, although I'm so anxious just to put in the order now and wait for them to ship it out to me on the proposed date a couple weeks later. But is that wise?
Remember most extended batteries are scams
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Remember most extended batteries are scams
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Check the forums for an easy to build tester. I tested a few, and stock batteries for g2 and vibrant, none of the extended ones lived up to their claims. They had more capacity, but not what they claimed, and some caused instability. Stock oem tested within 5%. Extended varied wildly, best being about 25% shy of stated. Imo, that's false advertising at best.
I still have the tester set up. Ship me a battery and I'll test it for you if you like. I'll even pay to ship it back to you, but I will post about it here if you do. Personally, I'm not wasting any more money on them for myself.
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Right on, can't wait for the review. Just wanted to ask though, I saw that they were out of stock and that they'd get more in stock and if I ordered on that certain day I looked on the site, I would get it on June 3rd. I looked at the site again and it said if I ordered that day I'd get it on the 10th, now I checked again today and it said if I ordered I'd get it on the 6th. What gives with all the different ship dates?
You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
I ordered it on 5/13 and received it on 5/20
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
Came via USPS
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
I used paypal. Had no issues
How professional are they and quality of the product?
The quality of the product is awesome. At least so far. This is my second Mugen battery. I had one for the nexus one as well. worked just fine. The one for the atrix ROCKS right now. On average usage (with stock battery) I would get about 1.5 days. With the Mugen, I hit 3 days with 1 full charge under the same usage pattern
Does the product come with a specific charger?
Nope. Just the battery and the back cover.
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
1.5 days vs. 3 days
Sorry for the questions, I'm just very interested in this battery and I'm so ready to purchase, just waiting till they get it in stock, before I ordered, although I'm so anxious just to put in the order now and wait for them to ship it out to me on the proposed date a couple weeks later. But is that wise?
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You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
I ordered it on 5/13 and received it on 5/20
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
Came via USPS
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
I used paypal. Had no issues
How professional are they and quality of the product?
The quality of the product is awesome. At least so far. This is my second Mugen battery. I had one for the nexus one as well. worked just fine. The one for the atrix ROCKS right now. On average usage (with stock battery) I would get about 1.5 days. With the Mugen, I hit 3 days with 1 full charge under the same usage pattern
Does the product come with a specific charger?
Nope. Just the battery and the back cover.
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
1.5 days vs. 3 days
By the way, I had a Milestone as well, which also had an extended battery but from Seidio, and that battery i was NOT happy with. Did not add anything in addition to the stock.
The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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Yup you're right. I do not have a voltmeter handy so I'm just relaying my observations.
So far, it's been good (I'm still talking about the Mugen Atrix battery since I haven't reeived the G2x one yet). Far better than the stock battery (not just by a couple of hours but by days) so I'm happy
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The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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I'll pay a hundred bucks to get at least 2-3 days on one charge. Anything to get rid of this miserable battery life that makes you feel anxiety when you're away from an outlet, especially if you use the G2x like I do which is on the internet constantly browsing and watching vids and playing vid games.
Although on another note, auto airplane mode does indeed make the phone somewhat viable and stops the drastic bleeding when the phone is not being used, and I also notice that under settings> accounts & sync> background data turned off also helps very much with the horrible battery drain when on standby.
Tmobile has sent me a replacement battery which I had to pay $10 shipping, so I might recieve it on the 3rd of June, I'll hold off on the Mugen 4500 mah and see how the replacement from tmobile goes and play around with the other settings I just mentioned. I just don't like the idea of switching out the batteries each time. Gonna put wear and tear on the battery cover and all, so even though I have an extra battery, I'm still considering the Mugen extended.
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I'll pay a hundred bucks to get at least 2-3 days on one charge. Anything to get rid of this miserable battery life that makes you feel anxiety when you're away from an outlet, especially if you use the G2x like I do which is on the internet constantly browsing and watching vids and playing vid games.
Although on another note, auto airplane mode does indeed make the phone somewhat viable and stops the drastic bleeding when the phone is not being used, and I also notice that under settings> accounts & sync> background data turned off also helps very much with the horrible battery drain when on standby.
Tmobile has sent me a replacement battery which I had to pay $10 shipping, so I might recieve it on the 3rd of June, I'll hold off on the Mugen 4500 mah and see how the replacement from tmobile goes and play around with the other settings I just mentioned. I just don't like the idea of switching out the batteries each time. Gonna put wear and tear on the battery cover and all, so even though I have an extra battery, I'm still considering the Mugen extended.
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I know exactly what you mean! That is the reason I was willing to spend $100+ on a battery because I didn't want to bother carrying extra batteries all the time or swapping them out or worry about charging each one..
I have one, lasts me 3+ days and don't have to swap anything.
Might not be ideal for most people, might be heavy but hey... it's perfect for me
Without a doubt, there is value in having a battery that can last 2 or 3 days. I've purchased large capacity batteries from Mugen and Seidio, and happily used them.
But, for the price paid for these batteries, I also expected to get what was advertised in terms of mAh rating. It irritates me that these companies feel that they can just print whatever inflated rating they want on these batteries and there is no consequence for them.
Heres what I've determined: High quality OEM batteries I've used in the last 4 years all have been around 1500mAh, as that seems to be the sweet spot in terms of size vs capacity for a phone manufacturer. Mugen & Seidio use cheaper cells, typically 1200mAh for the same physical dimensions as the OEM cell. From there, its simple math, 2 cells equals 2400mAh (not the 3000mAh stamped on the sticker. My guess, without even looking at a picture, is that the Mugen 4500mAh battery is a 3 cell unit with a real capacity of 3600mAh.
3600mAh is not a bad setup, I'd throw $100 for it. But I'd still be irritated.
What would be really nice is the manufacturer giving us the option of buying another cell, the stock oem battery with a replacement back that had a charge balance circuit and anything else it would need to be reliable. Known good cells, just an extra one.
hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
Feedback's pretty good on the seller. Why not buy a set and post the results?
some company called MPJ is also selling a 4300mah one which supposedly fits with the original back cover so it might be legit.
http://www.mpjbattery.com/mpj-4300m...900-g900m-g900a-g900t-g900v-g900r4-g900p.html
How long these will last and whether they do actually give 4300mah I have no idea, its a huge jump from 2800 in the same size so you have to question exactly how they can do that when samsung doesnt. Lets face it if samsung could produce 4300 in that exact same size and quality, even if it was a slightly higher cost, they would probably do it because the phone would destroy everything else for battery life with 4300mah as stock......and this makes me very skeptical.
Ideally what we want is someone to get some of the various higher capacity batteries from various manufacturers and do a few proper tests to at least see for sure how much longer they last when in use. We still have no idea how many charge cycles you will get with it still being that high but if it lasts for a year and really does give 50% extra capacity for that year then its probably a good buy. The danger even if it gives a decent boost for a few weeks during the initial tests is that it then starts wearing off and ends up worse than a stock battery after a month or 2. There HAS to be some catch somewhere or samsung would surely make these themselves and flog them at a premium for users that want extra power.
The key for me is being able to use the original cover as I dont want extra bulk.
We have to wait and see I guess.
anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
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anyone wanna give this a try?
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...=1397666589&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+s5+battery
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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HMMMMMM "Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time" say what?!? isnt the point of an extra 1500mah that it lasts a LOT LONGER, not "comparable". They also list the wrong model number, since when is it i9600. Personally wouldnt touch that with a barge pole. Also seems far too cheap to be even close to decent.
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Also no NFC. At $6, it might be worth it as a spare.. but I agree their marketing is sub-par... of course it comes from China so that's to be expected... You'll see that Amazon claims 17-28 business days shipping, so it's definitely coming from either China or Hong Kong...
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hmm i came across this wonder if legit http://www.ebay.com/itm/4300mAh-780..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item2ed08a5e96
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okay fine.. May i ask you here case and battery together sell here ?
As per title, banggood used to sell them and I have heard gearbest can be dodgy for counterfeit stuff, Are there any trusted sellers where we can get a real original battery?
You are right, it is pretty hard to be sure you are receiving an actual Xiaomi original battery based on just a web page description. Even given multiple batteries that look identical, and then opting for the one with a higher price on the assumption that it really is original, well, that is absolutely not definitive (at least not in my experience--I have been burned a bunch of times like this...). I think the only way is maybe to buy it directly from Xiaomi because I think even bigger China-based retailers (Banggood, DX, Gearbest, etc.) buy merchandise to resell thinking it is actually authentic only to find out it is just a good fake job. I'm not sure how to get around this. Because this is the case, nowadays, I usually just look on Aliexpress, find a vendor with a good rating and a high number of orders, and go with it. This is based on the assumption that actual experiences and word of mouth have led to a high rating and high number of orders, but neither is this a guarantee.
I did recently purchase a second battery for my RN2 on Aliexpress, and it cost a bit less than US$6 including shipping. It seems to perform as well as the original battery. Although you might see BM45 replacement batteries which offer up to 4000 mAh of capacity, the only way to be really sure about this is to use a USB voltage/amperage tracker during charging that also tallies mAh, and then account for nominal USB vs Li-ion voltage, i.e. 5V vs. 3.7V, and an efficiency factor.
Anyway, in the long run, I have probably not answered your question about a source for an original Xioami battery. But I can say my <US$6 one bought on Aliexpress seems to work as well as the original. Good luck with the search!
It's difficult to find a genuine battery and I beware who claim his battery have more mAh than the original one.
So I bought a Nohon battery from AliExpress and I'd say it's a good replacement.
+1 for Nohon battery. Good, after-market battery
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As per title, banggood used to sell them and I have heard gearbest can be dodgy for counterfeit stuff, Are there any trusted sellers where we can get a real original battery?
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My ORIGINAL Battery (came with the original sealed Phone) blowed up like a ballon after 20 Months...so far for "ORIGINAL QUALITY"...
If you are from germany here is a trusted Adress with solid quality replacement Batterys, i dont know if they ship in other countrys
http://web2.cylex.de/reviews/viewcompanywebsite.aspx?firmaName=accucell+deutschland+inh.+ronald+m%c3%bcller&companyId=4015686
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My ORIGINAL Battery (came with the original sealed Phone) blowed up like a ballon after 20 Months...so far for "ORIGINAL QUALITY"...
If you are from germany here is a trusted Adress with solid quality replacement Batterys, i dont know if they ship in other countrys
http://web2.cylex.de/reviews/viewcompanywebsite.aspx?firmaName=accucell+deutschland+inh.+ronald+m%c3%bcller&companyId=4015686
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LOL. Yeah my ORIGINAL battery looks like a balloon and it's now hard to close the back cover so I did order the Nohon battery. :silly:
I don't think that you can find the real original battery any more. In general, Dragon TT is a good source for parts, but they haven't had them in stock for a while. I ended up getting a Nohon battery (from what's supposed to be their factory store on Ali) and it seems pretty good. The capacity seems to be on par with the original, back when it was new, and it doesn't drop from 100 to 90% as soon as you start using the phone, like the original did. I've only had it for a couple of weeks, though.
Nohon batteries bad design
Hi,
I write just to warn about Nohon battery and their supposed 6 month warranty.
I had a bad experience asking support about a new battery bought through Aliexpress on 2018/09/09. The battery was a BM35 model designed for Mi 4C phone and has a loosen connector as shown in the photo attached. I had some experience with different brand spare batteries, because as we all know it is almost impossible to find original xiaomi batteries and rarely the replaced battery has a capacity similar to the original so it wears out faster, but this is the first time I see such a poor designed connector. I had the original one and other two third-brand BM35 batteries and usually the ribbon connector is a whole part fixed under the battery shoulder, instead the Nohon ribbon wire seems to be a different kind of plastic less flexible and more easy to cut, or simply not well fixed under the battery shoulder and easy to detach. I think this could lead to a potentially dangerous short-circuit of the battery itself and damage the phone too.
Obviously I reported this issue through Aliexpress dispute system directly to Nohon store and even if my battery should have been replaced inside the 6 month warranty, I received a joking reply telling me they would have let me know in a hypothetical future and they never replied anymore to the next message.
Ivan_a_new_one said:
I don't think that you can find the real original battery any more. In general, Dragon TT is a good source for parts, but they haven't had them in stock for a while. I ended up getting a Nohon battery (from what's supposed to be their factory store on Ali) and it seems pretty good. The capacity seems to be on par with the original, back when it was new, and it doesn't drop from 100 to 90% as soon as you start using the phone, like the original did. I've only had it for a couple of weeks, though.
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Does the quick charge work with this Nohon battery?
It does, the battery charges as quickly as the original one did, at around 2A.