Hey guys
i'm looking for a battery with 3000 mah in standard size with working nfc.
i've found various batteries:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Power-Akku-3...237?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item1c31c2c8b5
http://www.ebay.de/itm/3500mah-MPJ-...523?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item27d3fdf933
did some already tested this batteries? does they really have 3000+ mah? and does they support nfc?
Most do not really have anymore mah then stock. Many have less.
Samsung is not limiting battery capacity because they want to. There battery is first limited by physical size and then the Li technology has its own limits.
I would love 15% more battery in same space - I bet Samsung would too.
I don't think even the name brands that promised more actually ever delivered.
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alphadog00 said:
Most do not really have anymore mah then stock. Many have less.
Samsung is not limiting battery capacity because they want to. There battery is first limited by physical size and then the Li technology has its own limits.
I would love 15% more battery in same space - I bet Samsung would too.
I don't think even the name brands that promised more actually ever delivered.
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The capacity depends on the size.
The highest capacity is 2600mah for standard size.
3000mah standard size Li-ion battery is not ture.
No one can make up it.
If you want more extended capacity, It must be oversized.
Come on guys. If you take AAA batteries from different manufacturers you will get different capacity in the same size. The price is then as well different, but this has nothing to do with technology and size. It is about money and corporate policies.
I do however agree that 3500 mAh battery in the same size for just 10 euros is a little suspicious.
Zerolemon is coming out with a 3000 mah standard size battery.
http://www.amazon.com/warranty-ZeroLemon-Compatible-International-Guarantee/dp/B00CXZHYPO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3B5RKIJB3E9L6&coliid=I3JEEY7GHWKZ5L
Yes, there are different AA/AAA cells rated at different MAH - but this is an opposite situation. These cell sized AA, AAA, C, D - were designed as a physical standard first and then manufacturers could charge more for more energy capacity - and this only came about in later years as technology changed.
Cell phone batteries are built to fit inside phones are don't have a physical size standard. The phone manufacturer crams the biggest thing they can fit into the space with the most mah. No phone manufacturer is undersizing their batteries to sell a higher capacity (of the same physical size) as that would be idiotic. They maxed them out already as battery life is a major selling point or deal breaker.
As for the Zerolemon - it hasn't been seen or measured yet. And it is possible if you tweak the chemistry make up, there are costs and tradeoffs though. Is it worth 15% more juices for a $50 price tag? Maybe for some. Maybe it is different LiON or Polymer tech and has some other tradeoffs - like more likely to catch fire due to whatever they use to separate cells, or less stable electrolyte mix.
It could be that their are no technical limitations at all, but Samsung didn't think an extra $30 per phone was worth 15% more runtime.
But the ebay stuff is junk, and anyone that thinks that an ebay battery with 15% to 30% more capacity that is available soon after the phone launches (implies little R&D) is going to work, is stuck in a fantasy world. There is so much fake stuff on eBay, and so few people believe the old mantra "if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is". Scams haven't changed in 1000 years, why should they change now?
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Wondering which battery to get of them two, I've read some users saying that the 3500M battery is actually smaller than the 3000M which would indicitate it has less capacity? They've also said that it doesn't live up to the rated capacity in terms of usage time. I'm leaning toward the 3000M battery as it seems to have a better reputation. I also don't really want to spend more than ~$15 on the new battery.
Also, which one has a better feel to it with the cover?
I was bought this one http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/42252157/shopGroupId/46205854
from renomierung distributer (know from many pasts ordering), and im very,very satisfacted.
Regards
Any picture of a battery that size in the sgs?
Hvala Miro. It's a bit expensive though.
I was thinking of one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3000mAh-Exte...Accessories&hash=item5add807a84#ht_4261wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3500M-EXTEND...Accessories&hash=item4aa5e7292d#ht_1727wt_905
none of those batteries really offer the advertized capacities, probably the 3500 will give you a few hours more than the 3000 but expect them to be like 75% or less of their real rated capacity.
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
au_stevo said:
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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My battery is like on yor first link for ebay.
I can tell you:
With original SGS battery i have 1 day to 1,5 day battery life (im relativ middle to stronger user,GPRS,GPS,3G,etc. But with this 3000 mAh battery i have last about 4-5 days. SGS is doble dicker from original,but i have no care if i go on shorter travel without charger
Pozdrav
Best regards
are the batteries sold for I9000 usable for samsung vibrant?
Pickup the quality: Mugen I couldn't submit a link since im new
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Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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I purchased both from e-cell in UK. They look pretty much identical, the 3500 one has label only on one side and it's a little thinner. But they are higher capacity than the stock one, about twice the capacity.
Doing my usual test while communting on metro and train, reading news with screen at minimum brightness, with the standard battery I usually lose 20% in 1 hour, with the big battery I lose 10%.
The back cover is a little too big and there's a space between the battery and the cover, so it moves, I had to fill the gap with a piece of paper.
@vcespon
You have a 3000mAh and a 3500mAh battery?
Do you have now more experience in the differences?
Is here a owner of a 3000mAh Yoobao Accu?
It seems Yoobao is a "quality label"?!?
A comparison of budget 3500mAh and budget 3000mAh and Yoobao 3000mAh would very interesting.
Specifically, the running time for the same use (eg video loop).
The Yoobao battery costs three times more as the cheapest noname battery.
€7, the chepeast 3500mAh battery and €21 for the 3000mAh Yoobao.
Is the desk stand the only difference?
Hey guys, I'm new here. Anyway, I was just wondering since this phone comes with a 1300mah battery if I upgrade to say 1500 will I notice much difference in how long it runs? I've seen on ebay right up to 3500 but I'm not sure if they're legit.
Opinions vary greatly on 3rd party high capacity batteries. Some people swear by them. If you scan thru this subforum, you will see reviews and threads on several of these batteries, to see various opinions.
Having defected from the Touch Pro 2 forum, I am personally a bit skeptical about so-called high capacity batteries due to the thread below (but have not personally tried any). The OP for that thread did some extensive testing on various aftermarket and OEM batteries for different HTC phones. His conclusion was largely that the OEM batteries give the best value, and the aftermarket products are usually over-priced and don't deliver the promised capacity. Many of the "high capacity" batteries not only failed to meet the advertised mAh, but even rated lower than the "standard" OEM batteries.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583927
Its all relative though too.
Paying for a 75% the capacity battery that costs $80+ fro Mugen or Seidio is different than if its under $20.
TP2 No name #2, large 3600mAh 2466mAh png/csv 69% $8.02 $19.85, link Nowhere near claim, bad door MobilityDigest
I dont find that one too bad. Youre getting 2500mah, nearly double our OEM battery, for $20.
Whether its 3600mah or not in the end may be relevant if you just want some more juice. $20 isnt too big a hit for nearly 2 times the battery life.
Seems cool yo
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Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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Ah ok. Just noticed that I missed the whole accesories section indeed .
And the i9003 (1650mAh) battery will also fit.
Denizzje said:
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
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If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
chandramohan1986 said:
If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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That's why I use external wall charger
I never charge high capacity batteries while plugged to the device
T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
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From what I've seen, most cheap, higher-capacity batteries are, simply not higher capacity. Someone over in the Captivate forum actually did some quantitative measurements. The results were that none of the cheap, 3rd party batteries came close to their listed capacity. Only the OEM batteries were close to their rated capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906611
Edit: The doubles-sized, extended batteries will certainly have more capacity than the OEM stock battery, but it's not likely to have anywhere near the capacity that it says it does. Oh, and, as far as I know, these tests were not done on any of the premium 3rd party batteries - just the cheap ones.
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
Chillaholic said:
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
Denizzje said:
That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743
Its mentioned in the first post.
You have to order by phone.
Here are all the partner shops in europe.
https://www.aswo.com/internet/ICM99_ENG.NSF/(html)/LinkFrame_4?OpenDocument
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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The 1650 mAh battery you are talking about is the one for the galaxy SL? Does it fit into the sgs properly?
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The ones using 1650 mah batteries can you tell me that you realized longer battery life?
Since it is only 10 percent higher than the stock battery it should have only 10 percent more battery life. So the extension of battery life for me it is about 2 - 2.5 more hours MAXIMUM and that does not make sense to me.
It should be 10% but for me it feels more like 20-30%.
Maby I loaded my 1500mAh battery wrong,
but it seems to me to be a bigger different between both.
hi guys.i have searched ebay to buy reasonable battery for my desire but i am a little bit confused.i saw mugen and innocell batteries have good reputation but very expensive for me.can anyone help me which reasonable extented battery i can but from ebay?thanks a billion in advance.
no one?any help......please......
I think most replies in other threads to extended batteries show that you get what you pay for. The cheaper ones tend to give just the same (or worse) battery life than the standard OEM battery.
The better, larger extended batteries are more expensive and increase the size of the handset too, but if you can put up with this they will extend the battery life but it won't be anything "jaw-dropping".
On specific batteries I can only really advise to keep away from the batteries sold on ebay from China/HK as these tend to be a lot more inferior in quality and performance and can be prone to going up in flames (literally).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that out of the two battery brands you mention innocell seems to get better ratings and reviews but they still aren't brilliant. Best to shop around online and compare user ratings. Checkout Amazon and Mobile fun for ratings for example, because ebay only gives seller ratings and not product ratings.
thanks a lot for your precious information mate.
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thanks a lot for your precious information mate.
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If you want to buy extended battery, you will need to notice on its charging cycle. Having larger battery (mAh) is not worth if their charging cycle is short.
Even though you got high mAh battery, they may be rapidly reducing its maximum battery level to 80% after you charge them for several cycle.
well i bought Andida battery advertised and alabelled as 1800 mAh - it does not work as advertised. After few cycles i feel it is now smaller capacity than genuine one, it does not charge up to 100% it stops charging somehow @99%. As a backup battery well maybe, as a replacement defenately no!
I've read that somewhere, that the HTC batteries aren't the biggest batteries around, but they somehow manage to get up to 95% of the capacity to be used. That is what none of those cheaper batteries can achieve, so it is senseless to buy a bigger battery that only uses some 70% and in the end the smaller, but more efficient HTC battery is your better choice
/edit: Here, that may be interesting! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
YooBao extended ones is actually pretty good, known for their blackberry batteries (of which used by a lot of people here)
Anyone recommend any good standard size batteries with the same or better capacity than genuine?
i ordered this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JB5OGWS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it shipped today i'll post results once i receive :good:
I used to vuy replacement battery on batterybay.net
Jacob2kD said:
i ordered this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JB5OGWS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it shipped today i'll post results once i receive :good:
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You could never fit a 4300mah cell into a standard S5 sized battery... And I've learned that the more the battery exaggerates the worse the quality and capacity actually is, So if I was you I wouldn't risk damaging your spanking new S5 with a cheap Chinese battery that could damage your phone.
And that's why I'm looking for a reputable brand like Anker, which I would get except they don't make S5 batteries.
Michael_P said:
You could never fit a 4300mah cell into a standard S5 sized battery... And I've learned that the more the battery exaggerates the worse the quality and capacity actually is, So if I was you I wouldn't risk damaging your spanking new S5 with a cheap Chinese battery that could damage your phone.
And that's why I'm looking for a reputable brand like Anker, which I would get except they don't make S5 batteries.
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How come he has gotten significantly better battery life then? It is also very possible because Lenovo managed to fit a 4000mah battery into one of their devices. If the battery were to be physically larger, then some sh1t would have to be done to the internals to save space. If I recall correctly he got 6hours + screen time and still had 40 percent left. Also it's cheap because their profit margins aren't as large as samsung, where they charge like 40 dollars for a standard size battery. If you also search MPJ batteries you will also see that they have gotten positive outcomes. Don't be so blinded by high price and a more "well known" company.
Sorry but it is just physically impossible to fit a 50% bigger cell into a battery shell that Samsung already kept as small as possible to keep the phone small, So maybe at a stretch someone could fit a 3000mah cell in, but any more than that and you need a double battery with new back cover to fit.
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Anyone recommend any good standard size batteries with the same or better capacity than genuine?
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I would recommend you to buy those batteries on Amazon.There you can get high-quality batteries with awesome delivery speed and excellent customer service.
I had an extra battery for my S2(amazon), but my S5 has great battery life, so I don't think I need it
Watch out for cheap external chargers, It killed my batteries for my S2 way too soon.
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How come he has gotten significantly better battery life then? It is also very possible because Lenovo managed to fit a 4000mah battery into one of their devices. If the battery were to be physically larger, then some sh1t would have to be done to the internals to save space. If I recall correctly he got 6hours + screen time and still had 40 percent left. Also it's cheap because their profit margins aren't as large as samsung, where they charge like 40 dollars for a standard size battery. If you also search MPJ batteries you will also see that they have gotten positive outcomes. Don't be so blinded by high price and a more "well known" company.
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You are so ignorant with absolutely no technical know how. Please go to AndroidCentral and **** there. Don't expect to come here and be taught everything
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Michael_P said:
Anyone recommend any good standard size batteries with the same or better capacity than genuine?
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Go for ZEROLEMON! no doubt ever
bervin said:
You are so ignorant with absolutely no technical know how. Please go to AndroidCentral and **** there. Don't expect to come here and be taught everything
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Go for ZEROLEMON! no doubt ever
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Nope. If someone with a 4300mah battery achieves more battery life than stock battery, it means it has a higher capacity, is there something you don't understand?
I think what he's saying is, there's no way to squeeze 4300mah into the space a 2800mah battery occupies, there's just physically not enough room for that much capacity in that small a space. While it may indeed have a larger capacity than the OEM battery, I'm also of the opinion that it's nowhere near 4300mah.
Also, read the reviews on that battery since it was originally posted, gets 2 stars out of 5 now, mostly due to capacity complaints.
I'll assume that you might be able to get a few more mAh out of a battery if you possibly remove the NFC chip from the battery to add a tad more size to it. How much really, not much I will assume.
also, getting more time out of a battery could have to do with the Kernel learning more about you and itself, etc. etc.
there are SOOOOO many factors to battery life, that really the only way to do it is on a bench with a real tester.
I just want a 4300 Mah battery, or a bigger one than stock that is legit that adds a little bit of bulk but not some absurd level like 6000+.
How about one like the 4300 or even a 5600, but same size as stock now I would like that, we're I can keep same case ect...
SAMSUNG-SM-G900A, with 128gb SD & Rooted.