Wondering which battery to get of them two, I've read some users saying that the 3500M battery is actually smaller than the 3000M which would indicitate it has less capacity? They've also said that it doesn't live up to the rated capacity in terms of usage time. I'm leaning toward the 3000M battery as it seems to have a better reputation. I also don't really want to spend more than ~$15 on the new battery.
Also, which one has a better feel to it with the cover?
I was bought this one http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/42252157/shopGroupId/46205854
from renomierung distributer (know from many pasts ordering), and im very,very satisfacted.
Regards
Any picture of a battery that size in the sgs?
Hvala Miro. It's a bit expensive though.
I was thinking of one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3000mAh-Exte...Accessories&hash=item5add807a84#ht_4261wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3500M-EXTEND...Accessories&hash=item4aa5e7292d#ht_1727wt_905
none of those batteries really offer the advertized capacities, probably the 3500 will give you a few hours more than the 3000 but expect them to be like 75% or less of their real rated capacity.
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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My battery is like on yor first link for ebay.
I can tell you:
With original SGS battery i have 1 day to 1,5 day battery life (im relativ middle to stronger user,GPRS,GPS,3G,etc. But with this 3000 mAh battery i have last about 4-5 days. SGS is doble dicker from original,but i have no care if i go on shorter travel without charger
Pozdrav
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are the batteries sold for I9000 usable for samsung vibrant?
Pickup the quality: Mugen I couldn't submit a link since im new
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Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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I purchased both from e-cell in UK. They look pretty much identical, the 3500 one has label only on one side and it's a little thinner. But they are higher capacity than the stock one, about twice the capacity.
Doing my usual test while communting on metro and train, reading news with screen at minimum brightness, with the standard battery I usually lose 20% in 1 hour, with the big battery I lose 10%.
The back cover is a little too big and there's a space between the battery and the cover, so it moves, I had to fill the gap with a piece of paper.
@vcespon
You have a 3000mAh and a 3500mAh battery?
Do you have now more experience in the differences?
Is here a owner of a 3000mAh Yoobao Accu?
It seems Yoobao is a "quality label"?!?
A comparison of budget 3500mAh and budget 3000mAh and Yoobao 3000mAh would very interesting.
Specifically, the running time for the same use (eg video loop).
The Yoobao battery costs three times more as the cheapest noname battery.
€7, the chepeast 3500mAh battery and €21 for the 3000mAh Yoobao.
Is the desk stand the only difference?
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Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.
That's great, although the capacity isn't that much higher than the original....
Release date?
100 ???
will that really make a real diffrance????
The Mugen webpage tells release date is end of August. There might have not much difference between the OEM 900 mAh with this 1000 mAh, but it is good that Mugen can enhance the battery by this 100 mAh. User can still choose to buy OEM extended battery which has 440 mAh more but has to use another cover with extended size.
you guys say its not that much - but its an 11% increase! which if your battery lasts 24 hours now - this new one will be an extra 2 and a half hours - its up to you guys if its worth it - im considering it!
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Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.
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I'm not too impressed with the lifetime of the Mugen batteries. I've had two in different PDA's and I've experienced short lifetimes.
not as short as the life in my diamond battery!
Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
sounds more like it! 22% increase! woo!
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not as short as the life in my diamond battery!
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I'm talking lifetime not discharge time.
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Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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I wonder of its lifetime - some of my rechargable 2500 mAh last shorter than those of 2000 mAh running the exact same device after a few usages. Let's hear the experience once you have tried it.
No probs - if they ever release it... They said end of July, so I guess we can expect it any day now.
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Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.
In europe the diamond have a 900mAH so 1000mAH doesn't give more. Perhaps 1 or 2 hours in stand by ?
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Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.
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I know - what a shame....
It's a shame the promised capacity hasn't appeared, but the 11% increase will certainly help me. With the original to carry as a spare I doubt I'll have to change often, but atleast I'll have the option.
As far as the HTC delay is concerned, I have a feeling they may surprise us, with an original sized extended capacity. Their theme is 'innovation' afteral, and there have been some interesting developments in Lion batteries recently. They have the punch to make investments in the right place. I'm holding out hope anyway lol.
I found a 1050mAh battery
Hey guys, I just fund this on amazon.de. It looks to be standard size.
http://www.amazon.de/1050mAh-Li-Ion-Diamond-T-Mobile-Compact/dp/B001GZKANU
I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.
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I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.
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I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...
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I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...
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There is one little issue with these kind of batteries, they may catch fire if not properly designed and for the phone. I the east you get batteries rated from A to AAA depending on how good they are and the risk. It doesn't happen often but make sure your phone is ventilated (not put on a carpet or covered) while recharging over night
Do you believe what capacity they print on that battery??? I wouldn't unless someone test it. I used to work with Cadex battery analyzer and believe me, there are so many lies on batteries even brand new ones as GP, Energizer, etc. Consider buying it...
You better buy this one for 7USD with worldwide free shipping:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15620
Just received the battery from mobilecityonline.com. Ordered Tuesday came on Saturday $60 shipped. Here are some pic's will do a review when I can test it. Any question's please ask.
Initial impression:
The battery itself is bigger than the China 3500mah, The back cover doesn't fit over the sedeio battery. The plastic is thinner than the china back cover but thicker than the oem samsung back cover, not able to stand it up on it's side. The case it difficult to put on, but fits very well. It's gonna suck when my phone locks up and i have to pull the battery.
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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy33ssepc-bk.htm
Has anyone tried this? I am bout to order one.
Can be bout cheaper for about $55
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
Just order one came out to about $60 the don't charge tax at least in California. Still have my cheapo ebay 3500mah battery but it still doesn't last me the day. Will post review when i Get it.
Hrm....so then what about those of us that bought the 3000 mAh Innocell? I'm wondering if this battery is actually 300 mAh bigger or if they just changed the rating on the battery. I'd like to get my extra 300 mAh, especially as much as the 3000 mAh cost.
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Hrm....so then what about those of us that bought the 3000 mAh Innocell? I'm wondering if this battery is actually 300 mAh bigger or if they just changed the rating on the battery. I'd like to get my extra 300 mAh, especially as much as the 3000 mAh cost.
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According to androidcentral.com it is a different battery.
http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-accessories/244950-review-seidio-3000mah-extended-life-battery.html
Customer79: Hi Kevin,
Customer79: I have a Samsung Epic 4G phone.
Kevin: hi
Customer79: I see that you have a 3000 mAh and a 3300 mAh battery for this phone. Is this indeed the case or is it a mis-type of some kind?
Kevin: we have updated the 3000 to 3300
Customer79: If I bought the 3000 last week, is it a 3000 or is it in reality a 3300?
Kevin: 3000mAh is 3000mAh
Kevin: the new version is 3300mAh
Customer79: I think I read something somewhere that suggested that the 3000 was originally intended to be a 3300, but was de-rated to correspond better with real-life use. Is this the case? Could I get performance approaching 3300 with my recently purchased 3000 battery?
Kevin: no that is not possible
Customer79: OK. I sure wish I knew the 3300 was coming up before I ordered the extended 3000 batteries for my 2 household phones.
So...I guess the 3300 is a 3300. I think we all have to accept that technology is constantly changing with these phones. You got to hop in when you can and expect things to constantly upgrade and change. Clearly, my battery situation is much better with this 3000 mAh battery. My daily life no longer revolves around find a place to plug in my phone. Is 300 mAh really going to change your day? Not really.
Yea it's not a huge deal to me, at least not enough to go through the process of exchanging my battery. Just wish they would have made some mention of the 3300 coming so I could have just waited. Of course they wouldn't do that, because then no one would buy their 3000's and they'd have a bunch of leftover stock.
Would love to see a test between the 3300 mah and the cheapo 3500 mah batteries. Any chance that you would feel like running a test like that???
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Would love to see a test between the 3300 mah and the cheapo 3500 mah batteries. Any chance that you would feel like running a test like that???
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I planning too when i get the sedio battery.
While I haven't ran a methodical test but I know my Innocell 3000 mAh definitely lasts longer (or so it seems, placebo effect?) than my generic 3000 mAh. Of course, if the Seidio is actually 3000 mAh, then that should be right since the generic 3000 mAh is just two 1200 mAh batteries wired together.
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While I haven't ran a methodical test but I know my Innocell 3000 mAh definitely lasts longer (or so it seems, placebo effect?) than my generic 3000 mAh. Of course, if the Seidio is actually 3000 mAh, then that should be right since the generic 3000 mAh is just two 1200 mAh batteries wired together.
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http://batteryboss.org/
Seidio extended batteries are usually around 82% of rated capacity.
That would put the Seidio 3000mah at around 2460 mah.
That is why I would love to see a test between the two that reduces all variables to make it as fair as possible. Something like putting the phone in airplane mode with brightness and volume maxxed, setting the phone to play a movie file repeatedly until it turns off and measuring the time.
muyoso said:
http://batteryboss.org/
Seidio extended batteries are usually around 82% of rated capacity.
That would put the Seidio 3000mah at around 2460 mah.
That is why I would love to see a test between the two that reduces all variables to make it as fair as possible. Something like putting the phone in airplane mode with brightness and volume maxxed, setting the phone to play a movie file repeatedly until it turns off and measuring the time.
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Ah I see. I would do this if I had my spare phone on hand, but unfortunately I don't. I might do it one of these days when I'm at the library studying.
Are there any other suggestions as to how to test the battery life?
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Are there any other suggestions as to how to test the battery life?
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The only way to test the "battery life" is to see how many charge and discharge cycles you can get. You need a tester circuit that accelerates this process or you will be doing this for a long time. Alternatively you can do a discharge test and so long as you use the same circuit you can then make some intelligent guesstimates in comparing the batteries.
The problem with mfgs are that they don't use the same parameters in testing. Thus two identical batteries can be rated at different capacities.
The short answer: Buy a high quality battery and forget the BS.
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Top Nurse said:
The only way to test the "battery life" is to see how many charge and discharge cycles you can get. You need a tester circuit that accelerates this process or you will be doing this for a long time. Alternatively you can do a discharge test and so long as you use the same circuit you can then make some intelligent guesstimates in comparing the batteries.
The problem with mfgs are that they don't use the same parameters in testing. Thus two identical batteries can be rated at different capacities.
The short answer: Buy a high quality battery and forget the BS.
Brought 2 u via Bonzai! v 5
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I hear that, Hopefully the sedio preforms well. I am starting to realize it makes more sense carrying an extra oem battery then having a cheapo extended one, due to the size it adds.
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I hear that, Hopefully the sedio preforms well. I am starting to realize it makes more sense carrying an extra oem battery then having a cheapo extended one, due to the size it adds.
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I got 3 extra samsung batteries and so extended batteries don't make a lot of sense. I usually get them for free as well.
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I too have a couple of spare batteries, but it was a pain in the ass having to keep them with me and swap batteries, charge batteries, etc etc. I much prefer having one extended as opposed to multiple spares.
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I too have a couple of spare batteries, but it was a pain in the ass having to keep them with me and swap batteries, charge batteries, etc etc. I much prefer having one extended as opposed to multiple spares.
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Same here, the only downside is the thickness the battery adds to the phone. I HAVE to use my extended battery at work since I'm nowhere near a charger, listen to my music all day and paint in a dungeon so there is a lot of crap that could possibly get inside my phone when switching batteries but on the weekends I rock the regular battery.
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Same here, the only downside is the thickness the battery adds to the phone. I HAVE to use my extended battery at work since I'm nowhere near a charger, listen to my music all day and paint in a dungeon so there is a lot of crap that could possibly get inside my phone when switching batteries but on the weekends I rock the regular battery.
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For me, the only disadvantage to the thickness is not being able to use a case. I don't mind the thickness at all (I was a former Treo lover LOL), but it bugs me not having a case on the back half of my phone.
Can be bout cheaper for about $55
mobilecityonline. com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
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The reviews for Mobile City Online are kinda bad on resellerratings. com:
resellerratings. com/store/MobileCityOnline 3/10 stars.
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zomg, it's impossible to have a discussion on the internet without posting links.
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The reviews for Mobile City Online are kinda bad on resellerratings. com:
resellerratings. com/store/MobileCityOnline 3/10 stars.
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zomg, it's impossible to have a discussion on the internet without posting links.
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I didn't read the review, I got an shipping confirmation next day from new york. I payed with my credit card so an problems i have a little security. They better not send me the 3000mah one.
This cover is a pain to put on
rccal said:
This cover is a pain to put on
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If you are talking about the extended battery cover then you just have to push on it really hard to snap it into place, it also helps to squeeze the edges inward
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I just got my 3300 mAh battery yesterday and charged for about 9 hours...took off charger at , midnight and I still have 15 % left...and I have been trying to kill it
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Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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Ah ok. Just noticed that I missed the whole accesories section indeed .
And the i9003 (1650mAh) battery will also fit.
Denizzje said:
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
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If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
chandramohan1986 said:
If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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That's why I use external wall charger
I never charge high capacity batteries while plugged to the device
T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
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From what I've seen, most cheap, higher-capacity batteries are, simply not higher capacity. Someone over in the Captivate forum actually did some quantitative measurements. The results were that none of the cheap, 3rd party batteries came close to their listed capacity. Only the OEM batteries were close to their rated capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906611
Edit: The doubles-sized, extended batteries will certainly have more capacity than the OEM stock battery, but it's not likely to have anywhere near the capacity that it says it does. Oh, and, as far as I know, these tests were not done on any of the premium 3rd party batteries - just the cheap ones.
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
Denizzje said:
That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743
Its mentioned in the first post.
You have to order by phone.
Here are all the partner shops in europe.
https://www.aswo.com/internet/ICM99_ENG.NSF/(html)/LinkFrame_4?OpenDocument
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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The 1650 mAh battery you are talking about is the one for the galaxy SL? Does it fit into the sgs properly?
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The ones using 1650 mah batteries can you tell me that you realized longer battery life?
Since it is only 10 percent higher than the stock battery it should have only 10 percent more battery life. So the extension of battery life for me it is about 2 - 2.5 more hours MAXIMUM and that does not make sense to me.
It should be 10% but for me it feels more like 20-30%.
Maby I loaded my 1500mAh battery wrong,
but it seems to me to be a bigger different between both.
hi guys.i have searched ebay to buy reasonable battery for my desire but i am a little bit confused.i saw mugen and innocell batteries have good reputation but very expensive for me.can anyone help me which reasonable extented battery i can but from ebay?thanks a billion in advance.
no one?any help......please......
I think most replies in other threads to extended batteries show that you get what you pay for. The cheaper ones tend to give just the same (or worse) battery life than the standard OEM battery.
The better, larger extended batteries are more expensive and increase the size of the handset too, but if you can put up with this they will extend the battery life but it won't be anything "jaw-dropping".
On specific batteries I can only really advise to keep away from the batteries sold on ebay from China/HK as these tend to be a lot more inferior in quality and performance and can be prone to going up in flames (literally).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that out of the two battery brands you mention innocell seems to get better ratings and reviews but they still aren't brilliant. Best to shop around online and compare user ratings. Checkout Amazon and Mobile fun for ratings for example, because ebay only gives seller ratings and not product ratings.
thanks a lot for your precious information mate.
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thanks a lot for your precious information mate.
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If you want to buy extended battery, you will need to notice on its charging cycle. Having larger battery (mAh) is not worth if their charging cycle is short.
Even though you got high mAh battery, they may be rapidly reducing its maximum battery level to 80% after you charge them for several cycle.
well i bought Andida battery advertised and alabelled as 1800 mAh - it does not work as advertised. After few cycles i feel it is now smaller capacity than genuine one, it does not charge up to 100% it stops charging somehow @99%. As a backup battery well maybe, as a replacement defenately no!
I've read that somewhere, that the HTC batteries aren't the biggest batteries around, but they somehow manage to get up to 95% of the capacity to be used. That is what none of those cheaper batteries can achieve, so it is senseless to buy a bigger battery that only uses some 70% and in the end the smaller, but more efficient HTC battery is your better choice
/edit: Here, that may be interesting! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
YooBao extended ones is actually pretty good, known for their blackberry batteries (of which used by a lot of people here)
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
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Well the evo 3d battery is 3.8v and ours is 3.7v so that might mess up your phone.
And my extended battery not only is a tiny bit bigger but it also weighs more and gives me about 15 hrs a day.
If you can get the type of battery efficiency I get on a daily basis with normal usage then maybe I might believe you.
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all phones have built in voltage control circuitry. 0.1v is not going to harm anything.
that is how phones can handle a stock battery going from ~4v to ~3v while it discharges.
3.8v vs 3.7v is just the nominal voltage of the battery. the voltage of the evo3d is higher since it's capacity is higher.
Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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if it works for you, more power to you
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if it works for you, more power to you
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That's the point, no?
1000th POST LOL
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That's the point, no?
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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Yes the Anker battery is a smidge thicker, not much to the naked eye. As posted in another thread, it's slightly heavier as well. And that could account for a bit more capacity.
The Anker battery without a doubt lasts alot longer than the stock battery!
I don't think all these stuff matter as long as user experience/reviews with the batteries prove positive.
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It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
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And what about a pentiline or normal AA battery that would fit in a mp3 player or kids toy or even a dildo? All same sizes and yet thy exists in different capacities?
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he's absolutely right. theres a very large capacity differential between standard batteries of varying internal composition. easiest reference, test out a lithium ion battery versus a nickel cadmium battery (both come in AA), which are exactly the same size, and tell me theres no more capacity in one than the other.
Electrical capacitance, as we have seen throughout history has nothing to do with size, so the OP is arguing against the progression of physics. 50 years ago, a battery capable of powering a sensation would have been as big as a book, and yet they used that "magic" you were saying didnt exist to "cram more mAH" into a smaller battery.
Size means very little. Internal construction and quality mean everything. I have seen D cell batteries that are really a AA inside a D cell case. Perhaps the HTC battery is built the same? I dont know, nor do I intend to find out.
If you drain the battery at a constant rate (no, not with your phone, but with more accurate equipment), then you can easily figure its capacity. There is no arguing with that...The aftermarket batteries have been found to have MUCH GREATER capacity than the HTC battery. That is confirmed, 100%.
Matt
However it may be my ChiChiTec battery permits me to go a whole day without charging whereas the stock did not. That's good enough for me.
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Stock battery is really crappy... I'm still waiting for a decent review about the aftermarket battery's
vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
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I got the seidio 1900mAh EVO battery and it does weigh a bit more but worth the extra juice on heavy usage days especially with right rom
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vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you are an idiot.. no offence intended but you havent read any of the threads on here about all the batteries availaible.
QUALITY OF THE CELLS MEANS EVERYTHING!
crap cells wont hold high amounts of energy, they wont hold as stable a voltage under load and wost of all heat up more than a quality cell.
my anker battery does weigh 2g more than the stock battery and is 0.2mm thicker but that amount of extra mass gets me 4-5 hours more use over the stock battery and thats to do with the quality of the cells more than the exta weight and size.
my stock battery heats up a lot and fast under load and causes the whole phone to get stupidly hot. Anker battery DOES NOT do this at all and only the lower part of my phone gets hot.
some cheap batteries are crap, but there are plenty of good ones too.
if you still think same size = same capacity then ask yourself this, why are some batteries worse than the stock one yet still the same size? if some can be worse then some can be better .... Right???
heres a whole website of information about batteries you can disagree with if you like.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Here is a size comparision between the stock battery (top) and the chichitec (bottom):
You guys are missing the point of the op. This is not about comparing 2 different battery chemistries. We are comparing an OEM Li-ion battery to an after market one.
The only evidence of an aftermarket battery ever being superior ( in the case that they are the same size and weight) has only been via anecdotal perception of the buyer.
If an aftermarket battery is larger/heaver, there's a chance it could out perform the OEM unit, but when tested using capacity measuring test equipment, It will usually test well below the label mAh rating, unlike the OEM cell which is usually within 3% of its labeled mAh rating.
That's not to say these batteries are not a good value for the money, they are. $12 for a replacement battery is a really good value, especially if its at least as good as the OEM unit.
The real snake oil is in the high capacity multi cell batteries, where the manufacturers have been caught (by me) to have intentionally over stated the mAh rating.
If you get better phone life from your 1700-1950mAh aftermarket battery, that's great! But I doubt you're getting more than 80% of the capacity that's stamped on the label.
I have not seen any independent tests of Sensation batteries yet, no less one that shows an after market battery delivering its labeled capacity.
After reading the many positive reviews of the Anker 1900mAh battery, I just ordered one. Lets see how it measures.