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Running BAMF 1.0.7 and was wondering if anyone has tried this? Also noticed it's a much smaller file than most roms
Its as fast and basic as you want it to be with a lot of customization options. Just upgraded from 2.6 and I'm loving it. For battery life I don't think there's a better choice.
Edit: I should note that coming from my other android phones the htc sense interface pretty much makes my skin crawl, so those have never been options for me.
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Just loaded it today and it is very nice. Very fast, smooth and lots of features.
AOSP ROMs are going to be much smaller in size than Sense ROMs, averaging 100 MB or so.
This ROM is excellent. Very fast!
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Been running it since prerelease betas. It was good enough for a daily back then. Now its just stunning. Arguably the best aosp rom available...
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
Face unlock?
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DangKid said:
Face unlock?
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Face unlock is not really useful at all. I think most people will just stick with other methods like PIN lock instead.
huy_lonewolf said:
I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
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I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with you. You probably have to wait until CM9 becomes official.
hmmm, not sure about other phone makers. My experience with custom rom ics is good. Undeniable when I first flashed the early version of ICS custom rom, it gives me nightmare with many things not working. But after the great custom rom developer put their priceless efforts to solve the issues, it is quite stable for the latest build right now. Haven't face any frustrating issues using it during working days or weekends.
ics on evo is getting better and better as each day passes. it started out super buggy but getting stable. still prefer gb tho
I have no problem with but a few apps that aren't compatible which makes my tablet reboot.
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I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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Personally, I can understand what you mean, but I still prefer HTC Sense to stock Android (including ICS) as there are many features that the Galaxy Nexus lacks (Internet-pass-through and text reflow in browser). Moreover, if I want pure ICS, I can just install a custom ROM on my Sensation. I will be installing custom ROM anyway, so fragmentation is not my problem as well. My bug with ICS is this: ICS is specifically optimized for TI OMAP 4 (which is the worst SOC I can think of for my phone compared to Snapdragon S3 or Samsung Exynos) and currently all of my devices running ICS (HTC Sensation, HTC One X, ASUS Transformer Prime) have video rendering problem when hardware acceleration is on (either the videos become choppy (snapdragon S3) or blurry (Tegra 3)). No other version of Android I have used has this many problems when it was launched.
Just tried it at bestbuy , and the touchwiz browser is extremely smooth more so than the browser on any phone/ android tablet ive tried. How did samsung achieved this, and how come more browser arent like this?
Lol which android phones have you even used? Android phones have come a long way even from just a year ago thanks to the emergence of dual cores and quad cores now... I also find dolphin browser very nice and the stock browser for ics is fast as well.
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No but im sure samsung did something with touchwiz that no other manufacturer do to make the browser ios smooth
It's not any more smooth than the stock ICS browser.
The Note is just a really powerful device. That's probably why it felt so buttery.
I've read that the touchwizz browser is hardware accelerated. Seeing the hardware on the note is so good, you'll probably notice the improvement a bit more than other chips.
Then again, isn't HWA now default across most apps in ICS? I find chrome Beta overall smooth, but then it doesn't have flash. Stock browser is alright.
The ICS stock browser has come a long ways since Gingerbread, I find myself using it the most on my Touchpad. I would like to see Google make the Android browser able to receive updates from them, like Google Play so that it stays up to date in the future.
The smoothest browser I've ever used is Opera. On my Galaxy S, stock ics browser is quite smooth when panning around but when you pinch to zoom out there's still some sluggish
Samsung devices have GPU accelerated browser. Since froyo. Which is coming to AOSP with ICS.
Another trick. We have panaroma mode on eclair. Which is new on ICS.
Hardware acceleration that is optimized well. Both my galaxy s and s2 are bloody smooth with heavy flash content.
Stock ics browser is a **** house in the comparison. i have tried cm, aokp and they all suck at browser smoothness, ics so far has managed to achieve a semi smooth ui, but its just not up to par in modern day os.
The positive thing is that aosp ics had improve a lot over gingerbread and under
Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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It has got nothing to do with dual core.
Even my Galaxy S lives very close to my SGS2 and my friend's iPod touch 4G in terms of smoothness in websites even with heavy flash content.
Got a Note today, and I've found it less smooth than the N900 it's supposed to replace... Hopefully it's a faulty one or something
I confirm that stock samsung browser is damn smooth.
Used the custom GC Checkrom NoteHD V6, and I was always amazed by the browser's smoothness. Awesome.
Now I am on a CM9 rom, and no browser are that smooth ...
Nevertheless, ICS browsers are (as far as i am concerned) more user friendly, and allow to switch quickly between tabs and favorites pages.
hi i live in australia and im getting the ics update on june the 21st ota because motorola australia are pieces of **** and i was just wondering is there any difference just general performace and gaming wise did nvidia update the drivers for gaming or no??? and what are the new feautures
Stock ICS is OK. However, custom ICS ROMS are much better, are much more optimized and have better customization options built into the ROMs.
As far as performance, I have never used stock ICS for longer than 10 minutes so I couldn't tell you.
As for features, just look around the dev section and you will find what you seek.
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hi i live in australia and im getting the ics update on june the 21st ota because motorola australia are pieces of **** and i was just wondering is there any difference just general performace and gaming wise did nvidia update the drivers for gaming or no??? and what are the new feautures
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When I first got the OTA for ICS back in January, I was immediately going to flash a custom rom over it, but then I decided to see if there was a difference in general performance. When you get the update, everything becomes more responsive and transitions/animations are much smoother in my opinion. In terns of graphics for gaming, the Tegra 2 remains a Tegra 2. Things might run a tiny bit better, but don't expect ground-shattering results.
If you are looking for some serious improvement, use a custom rom like d3athsd00r said. Custom roms usually get rid of the bloat that Moto/Carrier puts on your xoom, and at the same time they make many performance improvements themselves. Just note that flashing a custom rom in almost all cases will void your warranty.
Hope that helps
Hello everybody,
I know there are several questions about what rom to choose, but I'm still not sure which one I should take.
My sm-g930f is still stock with almost latest updates. But I am experiencing big performance issues compared to when I bought it some years ago.
I'd like to have a stable (best) performing rom, it is really important for me that it's fast because I experienced big lags while using Android Auto.
I don't care if it's touchwiz based or stock android, it's just gotta be really fast and stable.
Thanks for any help!